Cheat Canyon Swimming Lower Coliseum and Pete Morgan
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2020
- Getting absolutely destroyed and swimming through Lower Coliseum and Pete Morgan after making a stupid mistake, then bailing prematurely to attempt to avoid getting swept into Pete's. Worst swim I've had so far, and scariest too since I am painfully aware of the fact that I swam straight over the sieve that killed RC Forney back in 2005. I knew about the undercut/sieve, but was completely exhausted by the time I began to swim Pete's, and was unable to do much of anything except kick off the rock and use the momentum to throw myself backwards over the area where I understood the cave was. The fact that the level was 2.77 also helped since the current was already pulling me to the side, and not straight into the PM rock which it tends to do at lower levels. All in all, I got my ass handed to me and I am going to be stepping it down for awhile until I am more confident in my roll. Thanks a bunch to Deonte, Dalton, and his raft crew for pulling my dumbass out of the water, and helping chase down my gear!
- Hudba
Followed the link from your comment on Paddle, Bike video swim instructional today. Now this was quite a swim. Rescue raft salvation.
This was really bad... This is a textbook example of why you don't paddle Class IV without a solid roll, and this was the swim that finally motivated me to learn a decent combat roll before doing anything close to this stupid again. Even 2 years later, I don't know what the hell I was thinking being on the Cheat over 2.5 without a roll in the first place, let alone leading a group down for their PFD. This is one of those videos that is beyond embarrassing looking back now, but I'm leaving it up to show just how much trouble you can get into on a run that most experienced paddlers would consider easy if you try to step it up before you're ready like I did here
@tankmaster1018 Many, like myself, ONLY learn through failure. Sometimes the experience shows the risk was greater than anticipated. Experiencing the fear and panic of a scary swim probably helps you deal better with panic situations in the future.
If you have a fear of rolling in rapids when you are upsidedown the only way to beat that fear is with pool roll practice for muscle memory on the technique. Newbs forget the hip snap portion. Practicing rolling without a paddle(hand roll back up on the same side that you roll into to get rid of momentum). Really not as hard as it seems once your hip snap is second nature.
Specifically the fear of rolling in the rapid can only be beat with roll practice in whitewater. Just flip yourself at the bottom of a big rapid, with a flat water pool below so no yard sales with your gear, and practice recovery confidence building in whitewater. When you flip yourself you have some confidence and control of the situation, but after running a nice class 3 your adrenaline will still be spiked so you'll get real world practice with no consequense.
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That you Ryan? Lmfao, let me subscribe to ya real quick so I recognize you in the future!
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This is going to be a epic channel! And yeah it's me
Self rescue. There were a million opportunities early on to not prolong the swim. You freaked out once you were swimming vs keeping your head. It will all come with experience. I think your fear of the rapid overcome your logical thinking for a bit. Seemed more like a raft customer vs a kayaker.
Yeah I messed up on that one, I'm usually way better at self rescue then that... My main problem was that I lost my paddle in the 2nd hole I swam through and so I got pushed out into the center of the river. By that point, I didn't think I was gonna be able to make it back to the left bank, so I went for one of the rocks in the middle, hoping that I could hold onto it long enough for the raft to catch up so I could just hop in. I made a few stupid mistakes during that swim and paid for it alright... Not trying to do that again anytime soon! Lmfao, time for some more roll practice. Thanks for watching man, have a good afternoon!
@@tankmaster1018 it happens to all of us when we are first starting out and moving up. I enjoyed the video and by no means was trying to bash you. Work on your skills on some lower class rivers and you will be ready to go. Or keep pushing yourself and practicing your roll. You will look back on the video in a few years and laugh
@@raftingdon2 Thanks a bunch man! Really appreciate the kind words, and fully understand you're not trying to be a dick despite how much I deserve it with my aggressive choice of rivers to paddle that are above my skill level. Its sort of funny cause I originally got into kayaking because after basically having skied my entire life, I was looking for some other adrenaline packed sport to do for the rest of the year since our winters here on the East Coast are sporadic at best. In the past year, paddling has more than surpassed my love for skiing, but I haven't really dealt very well with transitioning from being an expert in one sport, to a beginner in another. That coupled with the fact that the first group I started paddling with all had 5+ years more experience then I did at minimum led to a really quick difficulty progression in rivers, despite the fact that I never took the time to learn all of the basics before progressing which was a major mistake. What that led to is me being really good at bracing and keeping my kayak upright, but losing my cool and swimming when I could have easily rolled since I didn't get the hang of rolling before stepping up the difficulty. I've spent the last week after this swim in my pool refreshing my roll, and am planning on spending the next few weeks deliberately flipping and trying to roll in some easy class II in my area. Sorry for the random rant there dude, thanks again for watching and have a good night!
@@tankmaster1018 I also came here from the paddle, bike video comment. I completely know you felt here. I have been an expert mountain biker for over 2/3 of my life, and am a reasonably accomplished skier (both inbounds and out.) I dabbled in water sports my whole life, but have more recently started to take it seriously as a hobby (vs, "sure show me down, I'll come paddle in your raft".) I waffle between confidence at times and timidness at others (my skill in a boat far exceeds my level of experience, although the skill isn't even that high, lol.) I've started as a newb and gotten myself to a solid level of competency in several hobbies, and it seems to get easier to gain competency every time I start something new. However, of the new things I've tried in the past several years, whitewater is probably the most complex as far as risk factors and required skills (downhill skateboarding and climbing, although difficult, are just more straightforward, for instance.) There's lots of overlap in skill and emergency preparedness between whitewater and my other pursuits, but also plenty of differences and new habits to form, so finding out how to push myself forward in an appropriate and safe manner has been interesting. I'm also older... that prefrontal cortex development that happens in your mid twenties is sure something! I find myself much less inclined to take big risks.
Thanks for the video, it is great material to learn from. Also, sorry about the swim. Didn't look fun.
If you have a fear of rolling in rapids when you are upsidedown the only way to beat that fear is with pool roll practice for muscle memory on the technique. Newbs forget the hip snap portion. Practicing rolling without a paddle(hand roll back up on the same side that you roll into to get rid of momentum). Really not as hard as it seems once your hip snap is second nature.
Specifically the fear of rolling in the rapid can only be beat with roll practice in whitewater. Just flip yourself at the bottom of a big rapid, with a flat water pool below so no yard sales with your gear, and practice recovery confidence building in whitewater. When you flip yourself you have some confidence and control of the situation, but after running a nice class 3 your adrenaline will still be spiked so you'll get real world practice with no consequense.
You need to learn how roll, friend.
Yeah you can say that again man. This swim completely killed any desire I had to continue stepping it up in terms of a difficulty progression. I actually have been practicing rolling all winter in pool sessions and can do the c2c and sweep almost 90% of the time, but as we both know there is a big difference between knowing how to roll in a pool, and in the middle of a rapid. That swim though was really humbling, and makes me wanna seriously ramp down the difficulty until I can reliably roll in easy rapids, then maybe start work on stepping it back up. I was really lucky to come out of that swim with just some bruises and scrapes considering the riverbed topography around Coliseum and Pete's... Thanks for watching though man, and maybe someday I'll see you out on one of these rivers and I won't beater the hell out of it! Have a good night man
Need to learn how to swim too..
Could've been a much shorter swim than that