Is a new geopolitical battle developing over Electric Vehicles? | Inside Story

  • čas přidán 16. 09. 2023
  • The US President is backing striking auto workers - worried about jobs and wages in the shift to electric vehicles.
    The EU meanwhile is investigating China's subsidies for its electric vehicle sector.
    So, are EVs becoming another geopolitical battleground?
    Presenter: Sami Zeidan
    Steven Erlanger, the Chief Diplomatic Correspondent in Europe for The New York Times.
    Andy Mok, Senior Research Fellow at the Center for China Globalization.
    Ferdinand Dudenhoffer, Professor and Director at the Center for Automotive Research think-tank.
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Komentáře • 0

  • siying li
    siying li Před 14 dny +190

    Chinese EV industry is really competitive domestically not just in export. And every country offer subsidy.

    • Kay y. Hong
      Kay y. Hong Před 14 dny +34

      China is not whining about American subsidies to farmers, subsidies to foreign companies to build plants in America, to buyers of automobiles made in America.
      America sanctions Chinese companies with ties to the military. How about American companies with ties to it military and there are so many of them?

    • hulagu khan
      hulagu khan Před 12 dny +9

      to be frank i think china is winning the EV race. BYD is really very good car maker. I also wanted one in India but govt has banned it.

    • User007im
      User007im Před 12 dny +2

      What subsidies did the US and EU car makers receive?

    • siying li
      siying li Před 11 dny +8

      @User007im EU Green car innitiative as an example launched back in 2008. and i believe there are more if you research. A lot of countries are starting to subsidy the EV industry now, it is a bit rich to accuse China for doing it while they only started or want to do it now.

    • User007im
      User007im Před 11 dny +1

      @siying li So before you actually know it, you already claimed 'every country offers a subsidy'? Loll

  • Roy Teo
    Roy Teo Před 15 dny +155

    I find it strange that none of news outlets reporting on this issue seems to realize that the best selling Chinese made cars in the EU are actually Teslas

    • ken 1
      ken 1 Před 15 dny +9

      Elon bad. Don't mention Tesla.

    • Duya Taksis
      Duya Taksis Před 15 dny +42

      For now. The new Chinese automakers like BYD, Nio, Li, Xpeng are far superior to Tesla.

    • Maria Hewitt
      Maria Hewitt Před 14 dny +3

      Selfcombusting E-cars, E-scooters, E-bikes, available all over the world?
      I'm so excited. NOT!!!!

    • N K
      N K Před 14 dny +6

      Tesla plant in Germany makes 3000-4000 units per week. So you have to subtract about 16,000 vehicles per month from the total, which will equate to how many of the Tesla's come from China. In June 2023, Tesla sold about 29k model Y's in Europe. So roughly half of Tesla's in Europe are coming from China.

  • Cola Fish
    Cola Fish Před 14 dny +315

    When the Western have advantage they talk about free trade, when the Western lost advantage the practices all kind of unfair restriction.

    • Tian Wang
      Tian Wang Před 14 dny +45

      Yes, the US, EU and China all have subsidies for their EVs, yet China's subsidies is not ok. What a joke.

    • Zen Lei
      Zen Lei Před 14 dny +5

      @Tian Wang
      Did China pay Tesla cars made in China ? It is total lies China subsidise Tesla made cars in China.
      China did provide enormous subsidies to EV car battery maker such as BYD, CATL etc.

    • khein
      khein Před 14 dny +21

      They would talk about human right soon

    • sihk sahmir
      sihk sahmir Před 14 dny +5

      free speach free restriction free decision what else?

  • Wn Klee
    Wn Klee Před 14 dny +217

    US workers want more money, less work, and are expected to produce cheaper cars. Makes perfect sense.

    • NatoNatrium
      NatoNatrium Před 14 dny +8

      Everyone has to making a livable wage, unlike the Chinese workers who make $2-3 an hour.

    • Jerry Orange
      Jerry Orange Před 14 dny +6

      Look at French. It's possible to do if you work smarter. They work 35hrs a week, + 30 days of paid holidays. Results they don't need to work many jobs, in 4 days a french workers makes what British worker does in 5 days and French make more money. Their old age pensions are quicker and higher. A good hard work is a stupid thing to believe in today's world. We need to work smarter with better profit distribution. Simple as that.
      The question is whether people want to better themselves or slave for corporations.

    • Hey King
      Hey King Před 14 dny +39

      ​@NatoNatriumyet Chinese citizen live more comfortable than average US

    • NatoNatrium
      NatoNatrium Před 14 dny +7

      @Hey King I disagree with that assumption.

  • SummerTech
    SummerTech Před 13 dny +106

    I just came back from a visit to China, my first after covid. The pace that China is moving towards automation is staggering. Ask an average westerner about China's factory, she would conjure up an image of sweat shop with thousands of lowly paid workers cramping in inhumane conditions.
    That was true before and is still true in some sectors but those factories are leaving China in droves. China is simply not cost competitive anymore against countries like India, Cambodia and Vietnam. China wants those factories out as well. Instead China is building highly automated factories of the future, retraining their workers and creating new competitive companies as a result. Chinese EVs are a great example.
    But I have also visited modern fully automated factories making all kinds of other products. Increasing productivity is the right way to increase worker's earnings. Not unions, not political interventions, not chest-thumping leaders. Make the hard transition and a better society will emerge.

  • Antoine Pageau
    Antoine Pageau Před 14 dny +48

    Al Jazeera is maybe one of the last media companies to actually present objective well informed guests. Thank you Al Jazeera, you set the bar for the older media companies who have fallen.

  • HK.Chinese Canadian
    HK.Chinese Canadian Před 15 dny +142

    I can't wait for the arrival of Chinese EVs in Canada. Then we can have some affordable quality vehicles for ordinary Canadians.

    • Charlie Brown
      Charlie Brown Před 15 dny +11

      100% bro

    • M. MA
      M. MA Před 14 dny +5

      so true

    • JC
      JC  Před 14 dny +2

      Not if they price their car EV like they did in EU.

  • Yee Tian
    Yee Tian Před 14 dny +146

    China ended the subsidies in December 2022. And Germany just announced a 110 billion EUR subsidies towards their EV.

    • N K
      N K Před 14 dny +8

      The U.S. currently has $7,500 per EV made here. Obama also funded quite a bit to Tesla years ago during the great recession. All car manufacturers foreign or domestic must play Tesla for zero emission credits if they don't sell enough zero emissions cars. For example, Stellatis(forrmerly Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep) alone paid Tesla $2.4Billion dollars for zero emissions credits between 2019 and 2021 for both U.S. and E.U. Many of these legacy auto manufacturers like VW still sell a ton of ICE cars. So they still have to pay zero emission credits to Tesla unless they can sell enough EV's. They aren't simply getting huge influxes of cash like Tesla is getting to make EV's.

    • GPSFinancial
      GPSFinancial Před 14 dny +3

      @N K Stellantis had the option of selling cars that pollute less, they also had the option of paying the Government fine, instead they made a choice to buy credits from Tesla.

    • Andy
      Andy Před 14 dny +12

      China's previous industrial policy did not directly affect electric vehicle manufacturers, that is, it did not subsidize specific manufacturers, but subsidized consumers at sales terminals. Therefore, automobile manufacturers can only obtain industrial subsidies if they make better models to attract buyers.

  • Unreliable Narrator 66
    Unreliable Narrator 66 Před 14 dny +35

    Europeans, particularly Germans. have enjoyed 30 years of high sales and profits in China. Now the tables have turned because Europeans have resisted EV technology even when they were surrounded by Chinese and Tesla in that market. Perhaps EU and US should subsidized petrol less and the future more.

  • scar lion
    scar lion Před 14 dny +82

    Europe is open to competition, but the competition must be to our advantage, not disadvantage.

    • dave C
      dave C Před 14 dny +23

      you forgot to add if the US has an advantage the EU bend over and asks if the angle is good enough. US subsidises their batteries to tax breaks for consumer purchases as well to play catch up.

    • Joey Gee
      Joey Gee Před 10 dny +1

      So you're saying we made the rules but we don't want to have to follow them? Seems fair...

    • Duncan Kow
      Duncan Kow Před 4 dny

      Competition must be fair. As long as i'm the winner, the competition is fair.

    • Hello
      Hello Před 4 dny


  • Chopin Mack
    Chopin Mack Před 11 dny +10

    Tesla started building its Shanghai factory in Jan 2019 and started the assembly lines in Dec. 2019. One million EV's
    were built between Dec. 2019 to Aug. 2022 . And another one million were built From Sept. 2022 up to early Sept. 2023 .
    Most of the German Car companies are working together with their China partners at present in this race .
    Cars from Japan will fade out eventually .

  • Joga Finito
    Joga Finito Před 14 dny +66

    It’s all about a rule-based international order until you get beat at your own game

    • HavenCat
      HavenCat Před 14 dny +2


    • hao li
      hao li Před 10 dny +1

      The US manufacture will keep falling as long as the The US$ dominance the international trade currency position.

  • Tao‘s自立山房
    Tao‘s自立山房 Před 14 dny +23

    I’m a vw id4 owner in China, the ev subsidy policy is fair to all brands in Chinese market, the policy just makes ev makers cakes bigger

    • Zen Lei
      Zen Lei Před 14 dny

      Is it the same as VW making ICE cars in China have to pay China EV cars maker carbon credits about $7500 per cars ?

  • Jon Little
    Jon Little Před 14 dny +22

    I like how the interviewer is actually listening and responding to what is being said, and not just reading one prepared question after another.

    • rcpmac
      rcpmac Před 14 dny +2

      You must watch fox a lot

    • Jon Little
      Jon Little Před 14 dny +2

      @rcpmac Nope. You still watch Saturday Morning Cartoons, don't you?

    • Jon Little
      Jon Little Před 14 dny +2

      @rcpmac Nothing but primary colors there. Let me know when you graduate to ABC Afterschool Specials, little trolkin. Maybe we can talk then.

  • Iro Kpe
    Iro Kpe Před 15 dny +53

    The problem here is that big european businesses invested in oil and gas related businesses. They don't want to switch. But china saw a future in EV earlier on and now they're a giant in the automobile space

    • Maria Hewitt
      Maria Hewitt Před 14 dny

      China is flooded, crocodiles are hard to catch. 😮

    • Mark Bernados
      Mark Bernados Před 7 dny

      china has the advantage of everything. lower cost, highly developed automotive factories, resources, locally produced batteries, largest lithium mine and refineries, and massive research and development, and innovations. The rest of the competitors are way behind due to restrictions and patents.

    • Iggy
      Iggy Před 7 dny +3

      @Mark Bernados china dont spend money on unending war like iraq afghan libya syria war. The US spend $8 to $10 trillons for this war. If the money spend on industries then the US will be much more advance

  • Doug
    Doug Před 12 dny +4

    I'd like to see a mainstream outlet like this one interview Sandy Munro, an expert on Lean Design, and a consultant for various Chinese automakers some years back -- and it really shows now!
    Constant innovation is something the EV industry is displaying, mostly due (in my opinion) to Elon Musk and Sandy Munro. Getting everyone to a sustainable future -- primarily BEV's, solar, and battery storage capacity -- is mainly going to be about the economics of it becoming clearly favorable. (Even though the moral argument is also quite strong.) And rapid innovation, rather than subsidies, will be the main driver of those favorable economics -- like the price of a fully (or battery) electric vehicle. If they all cost 80k+ forever, only so many people'll be able to afford them.

  • Justin Dressler
    Justin Dressler Před 7 dny +1

    Actually what amazes me is that we still charge luxury car tax in Australia making German cars vary expensive here. I'm amazed Germany and Europe haven't complained about that

  • C&M
    C&M Před 13 dny +9

    China has many imported cars, & still successfully made Chinese brands EVs. China has many imported phones, & still successfully made lots of Chinese phone brands, does EU, US lost confidence? 😅

  • Nexus Yang
    Nexus Yang Před 15 dny +77

    Tesla has all sorts of subsidies and various tax credits here in the US. Is that any different than what China is doing?

    • Johnny Walker
      Johnny Walker Před 14 dny +26

      US and Europeans think that "rules are for thee, not for me"!

    • N K
      N K Před 14 dny +7

      Tesla doesn't get much in subsidies any more. They'll get some to continue to build out the supercharger network. But they still have to expend alot of their own money to go along with those subsidies. So it's not like free money. Tesla gets a bone in the form of Zero Emissions credits. They sell these credits to all the other car companies, and they make hundreds of millions per year off these credits. Stellantis alone paid Tesla $2.4 Billion dollars between 2019 and 2021 for zero emissions credits in both the EU and US. The EU has the same zero emissions credit scheme.

  • RockySolid
    RockySolid Před 14 dny +28

    If you can't compete fairly, tax, ban, sanction or probe them ,😃😁

    • Damenオウ
      Damenオウ Před 8 dny +2

      last but not least, kidnap the founder's daughter

    • Johnny Q
      Johnny Q Před 8 dny

      Western notion of fair play.

  • Nehco Oahnait
    Nehco Oahnait Před 13 dny +14

    My economics teacher, who is German, called German politicians “pathetic” over this.

  • Peter Ruby
    Peter Ruby Před 14 dny +10

    It's hard but comical to imagine that the UAW workers are "trying to save the American dream" by fighting for 32 hour working week, while China didn't even start a five day working week. The Chinese work six day week and we didn't even start talking about the wages difference. Even if the Chinese subsidies to car industry apparently ended in 2022, just these facts make it ridiculous to even try to compete!

    • Chi Guo
      Chi Guo Před 12 dny


  • Alex Chen
    Alex Chen Před 14 dny +63

    The experts never talk about the technology.EU's ev cars cost way more than China's,because EU is behind in the term of technology.

    • Widodo Akrom
      Widodo Akrom Před 13 dny +2


    • jelly d
      jelly d Před 12 dny +1

      What technology please? Only batteries. That will change when other battery tech arrives.

    • Alex Chen
      Alex Chen Před 12 dny +2

      @jelly d you should ask VW what did he pay for from Xpeng.Bought Xpeng's batteries?Xpeng doesn't produce batteries itself.

    • Alex Divov
      Alex Divov Před 8 dny

      They were asleep at the wheel whilst China (and Tesla) was eating their lunch.

  • 环球观中国
    环球观中国 Před 15 dny +27

    I feel that the US and China expert are more precise when they are talking about their opinion and government policy, the EU countries are so diverse, so the EU expert is so jumbled compare to other two, not only because he lack of specialized skill, but also because EU is in a mess in many categories.

    • Ocean Wave
      Ocean Wave Před 14 dny +1

      I won't say Russia will get out of the war intact, but EU is more and more bogged down with the war and its consequences (energy crisis, inflation, deindustrialization, and recently refugee influx, thanks to food crisis in Africa, probably due to the war).

    • Matteo Carrozza
      Matteo Carrozza Před 14 dny +1

      While there is one Federal policy regarding EVs in the US, state policy varies widely. EV penetration rates among US states are probably as disparate as in the EU, if not more. California vs North Dakota? Fairly similar to Sweden and Italy....

  • Charlie Brown
    Charlie Brown Před 15 dny +31

    Always fighting against what good for little people
    In Canada the average price for new vehicles is 67 thousand dollars 😢😢

  • Quiet
    Quiet Před 12 dny +6

    If subsidy is the only reason why Chinese made EVs are cheaper, why can’t Europe offer more subsidy? Isn’t European countries the richer countries? subsidy is just an excuse for the less competitive European EVs

  • jelly d
    jelly d Před 12 dny +1

    Good arguments and reasons from everyine. These ev startups have big advantages... no legacy vehicles...a tiny amount of parts to deal with... simplification.

  • AnomalySyndrome
    AnomalySyndrome Před 14 dny +9

    China EV with competitive price and quality, helping EU to push green agenda and commoners can move away from fosil fuel more faster.

  • JEB
    JEB Před 13 dny +4

    China has lots of affordable EVs like the Wuling that no car manufacturer in America is yet to be able to produce given the costs.

  • JEB
    JEB Před 13 dny +5

    did US not give its chip industries? Why did EU and US not criticize it for doing so?

  • Eric
    Eric Před 11 dny +5

    0:38: 🚗 The EV sector is becoming a new geopolitical battle as the US struggles to compete in the global electric car market and the EU and China clash over subsidies.
    4:52: 🚗 The battle between automakers and auto workers in the US will impact the country's competitiveness in the global EV market.
    8:23: 🔋 China and Elon Musk have a competitive advantage in the electric vehicle market due to cost effectiveness and battery expertise.
    12:33: 🔌 The role of government is crucial in the development of the electric vehicle ecosystem, including charging stations and other necessary infrastructure.
    16:45: 🌍 There is a global trade battle looming between the EU and China over unfair subsidies.
    20:58: 🚗 Allowing Chinese EVs into the US market could benefit American consumers with inexpensive, safe, and well-designed electric vehicles.
    25:11: 🔋 The challenge and opportunity of prioritizing national battery production in times of crunch.
    Recap by Tammy AI

  • Karl Min
    Karl Min Před 13 dny +5

    China is the biggest vehicle market, two times larger than US market, nearly three times larger than EU market, and is still getting bigger. Chinese consumers prefer local companies more than foreign companies.

  • Louise Mann
    Louise Mann Před 14 dny +8

    The US offers subsidises too but that's different, it's one rule for the US and another for China. The Chinese expected this would happen, that's why they ended subsidies last year. The EU should complete rather than to follow the US example of using sanctions and coercion to destroy competition.

    • 伯伯 填
      伯伯 填 Před 14 dny +1

      Yes, just like the International Space Station and Huawei, China people later built them themselves.

  • Andy Shields
    Andy Shields Před 6 dny +2

    Rare to see a presenter who is better informed that the expert guests….well done presenter….get better guests

  • Karim Roufaou
    Karim Roufaou Před 14 dny +3

    The truth us that European legacy automakers feel they lost the battle for competitiveness in the china market. Now they are lobbying to be able to protect their traditional market that is EU

  • Alan.C
    Alan.C Před 14 dny +2

    The ICE automakers have a disadvantage because of the legacy costs of supporting the ICE vehicles and pensions associated with retired workers as well as the unions push against automation and in favor of manual human labour. If you go into new electric car factories, you will see that robotic machines do most the heavy work with speed and precision, old unionized factories will never let their factories automate for competitive advantage.

  • 7 MadBaby
    7 MadBaby Před 15 dny +19

    Let's face it. Everyone loves affordable these days I know the fact that NIO Chinese EV is close to Tesla the only difference is the software Nio has a far better range and Battery charging and is also cheaper for EV EU cars not for me I prefer to choose Tesla its stylish and quicker to charge compare to german car

  • abu Shiva toyib
    abu Shiva toyib Před 14 dny +3

    Losing in a competition using all means is what happens in a country that claims to be very democratic

  • Asfan Khan
    Asfan Khan Před 14 dny

    excellent discussion on the current state and the future of EV market

    ZΞTTΛ Před 3 dny +1

    The idea of EU is focusing on high end luxury cars and the US is focusing on big pickups and SUVs while China focuses on affordable cars is interesting. Doesn't mean they can't make all of them, just means they can deliver you the best on the market.
    China is open to western cars and Chinese people still have brand pride where they ride western cars for status symbol but if the west can't accept Chinese cheap cars, it's gonna be an ugly trade war and can't deny the possible rise of national pride where they start boycotting western products.

  • Mohammad Nasrati
    Mohammad Nasrati Před 14 dny +13

    Inshallah China will bring back the pride of its neighboring countries and those who were constantly being bullied mentally for ages

  • Ali
    Ali Před 7 dny +1

    China has advantage because it has complete control of the EV supply chain(robots, batteries, AI, Metals and electronic chips) plus relative cheaper labour and vast domestic market.

  • James 77
    James 77 Před 14 dny +4

    As usual and as expected US is wayyy behind the curve.

  • Xiang Ji 祥
    Xiang Ji 祥 Před 5 dny +1

    Fair interviewer and informed guests, props

  • ZC Wang
    ZC Wang Před 15 dny +44

    Let's face it. All these are because of China, game changer... lol

  • Jesus Aguilar
    Jesus Aguilar Před 11 dny +2

    In the US, without a nationwide infrastructure development plan for recharging station electric vehicles are only useful for local commutes. Even the there has to be the infrastructure to meet the demands of electricity so as to not crash antiquated electrical grids. Here in California we experience blackouts during summer on a regular basis due to high electricity use for air conditioning.

    • Alex Divov
      Alex Divov Před 8 dny

      Without the Tesla supercharger network is what you mean. A road trip in my Tesla is a breeze in the USA.

    • Jesus Aguilar
      Jesus Aguilar Před 8 dny

      @Alex Divov I don't doubt it but charging stations have to be as abundant throughout the country as gas stations are. There's also the question of having the infrastructure to produce the high demand of electricity if all vehicles go electric in the future.

  • Indigenous Earthling
    Indigenous Earthling Před 8 dny

    If electric cars require fewer factory workers per car, then manufacturers can simply make more electric cars with the same number of workers, and pay them for their increased productivity . Some electric car manufacturers are already doing this.

  • rebym
    rebym Před 7 dny +2

    It's a bit late to be talking about this now. The battle has been won and China is the winner. It's the largest EV maker, largest EV exporter and has by far the world's most competitive auto sector. The EU and US and way behind and even worse, the US is going in entirely the wrong direction by becoming increasingly isolationist, as they did vs. Japanese cars. They will see the same result. In addition, China is utterly dominant in EV battery technology, with CATL and BYD dominating the market, with the Koreans and Japanese trying to hang on.

  • Allenaxp
    Allenaxp Před 15 dny +11

    The US, EU, and China are all major players in the global EV market. The US is home to some of the world's largest automakers, including Tesla and General Motors. The EU is a major market for EVs, and it is also home to a number of leading EV manufacturers, such as Volkswagen and BMW. China is the world's largest producer and market for EVs. EVs are a key technology in the fight against climate change. Countries that are able to develop and lead the EV market will be well-positioned to address the climate crisis.

    • M L
      M L Před 14 dny +1

      What figures are show us the obvious is, traditional major automakers are losing the game at the moment. New startup EV automakers have the advantage that they do not carry the burden of transition like the traditional automakers; smooth transition from ICE to EV is difficult, they need to continue on ICE car production & sale to keep themselves running, while investing into a totally brand new EV sector and the worst? Each new EV they sale cancels off a ICE sale, with the latter far more profitable.
      Korean EVs from Hyundai and Kia are rather young automakers as well, they stand out because they too hold key battery technologies.
      Do you think climate change is really an issue to politicians? Nah, maybe at the initial stage in the 90s, it has always been one of the talking points to curb third-world countries like China, India, Indonesia.

    • jigil jigil
      jigil jigil Před 14 dny +1

      And China is investing heavilly on building new coal plants to generate the electricity for those EVs.

    • Widodo Akrom
      Widodo Akrom Před 13 dny +3

      ​@jigil jigilchina will surpassed both France and USA in nuclear power plant

  • Obi Modum
    Obi Modum Před 14 dny +6

    Who is to blame for the EV lead China has? The political right in the West. Conservative politicians funded by big oil and car companies striving to maintain the status quo and protect their profits fought EV adoption in the West for more than 2 decades. The old system with big oil companies and complacent car companies were resting on their laurels. China looked at the market, realized it would be stupid to invest in trying to compete eith legacy car companies with ICEs, so they decided to invest in the future; batteries, EVs etc. Now the west is hand wringing and grasping at straws to justify not competing with Chinese car companies.

  • Silas Larsen
    Silas Larsen Před 15 dny +1

    It’s about expansion of regional industry really and also the preservation of autoworker jobs in developed countries. It’s about having independence from China longer term.

    • F C
      F C Před 15 dny +8

      Yes it is, and China should do the same~ and charge European industry trillion for exploiting Chinese worker~ faire game.

    • NatoNatrium
      NatoNatrium Před 15 dny

      @F C Good. Then the European industries leave China and all those exploited Chinese workers will be unemployed. Additionally, China loses nearly 50% of the amount of it's foreign trade, also one-quarter of the output value and the profits of the Industrial Enterprises and one-fifth of the tax revenue from those foreign industries.

    • FrancoTheAfrican
      FrancoTheAfrican Před 14 dny +2

      @NatoNatrium The U.S. tried that already and we’re losing to China in terms of trade deficit. If E.U. and China go their separate ways, China can afford to make cheaper EV cars for the markets in Asia, Africa, and South Americans. Those places would rather buy a cheap Chinese EV for $24,000 than a European EV for $$40,000. Plus, China had the monopoly on EV battery technology. Their manufacturing power outperforms the U.S. and Europe combined.

  • Harry RS
    Harry RS Před 11 dny

    EU needs to lower its tax, give incentives, and attract more talent from all of the world to create competition with local workers who is getting old

  • kong King
    kong King Před 4 dny +1

    EU and USA have to accept and respect the country which can produce better EV.

  • Joe
    Joe Před 6 hodinami

    In order for solar and wind investments to impact hydrocarbon dependence, you HAVE TO adopt eV rapidly other wise trillion of solar and wind sit next the the same number of ICE engines as last year and same oil consumption. EU is very short sighted to drag it feet in allowing in Chinese eV to speed ICE removal.

    KELVIN KING Před 14 dny +7

    The question is: if EU cannot complete with Chinese and Tesla,how are they going to sell their cars to the world.

  • Sam
    Sam Před 14 dny +14

    I have a friend in Chicago owned a Trucking Company with 30 Trucks, he bought 2 Chinese electric Trucks like Volvo and Peterbuild These electric trucks performed excellent his profits went up 40% on 2 trucks. He decided to replace all trucks to electric, he asked electric company that he is going electric and wants to revamp his electrical supply to 3 phase and gave load calculations, electric company came running to him and said WHAT do you know how much power you are requesting it’s 5 mega watts, half of Chicago uses 5 mega watts. We don’t have the grid to supply you that kind of power. WHAT OMG. I have 2 trucks right now and there is no problem. We have problem your draw is skyrocketing when both trucks are plugged in after your shift is over, these batteries are huge. City refused to supply power and told him to move out immediately and buy 20 acres put up a Solar Plant for your business. This is the only option. You know what he already bought 50 acres 40 miles away from Chicago and moving with all electric, he said he can recover his money in 3 years cause no engines, no transmissions, no Motor oil, no Transmission Oil, no changing batteries every 24 months. He is happy camper.

  • Steven
    Steven  Před 14 dny +1

    Retired UAW here. We know that fewer jobs are better than no jobs. Had two factories close on me, both due to the lack of investment. One big issue is the big three are building new battery plants with massive government subsidies. They say these are joint ventures and want to pay these workers less. We say these plants are big 3 owned and should be available for UAW to transfer to as engine and transmission plants shut down.

    • Zen Lei
      Zen Lei Před 14 dny

      The problem in US is due to Wall Street greed.
      Wall Street CEO demand high pay and not dedicated to help company become strong and profitable like Toyota.
      The American CEO are all over paid obscene amount.

    • Steven
      Steven  Před 14 dny +1

      @Zen Lei As you can see from the comments, most Americans support multi million dollar wages for CEOs while their employees get just enough to get by.

  • Jones Lo
    Jones Lo Před 14 dny +5

    Sanctions will eventually hurt those who imposed it. Sanctions make countries being sanctioned to be self reliant, innovative and develop their own more superior products !

    • kira
      kira Před 8 dny

      So what is north korea producing of such great innovation and quality?

    • Jones Lo
      Jones Lo Před 8 dny

      @kira don't be ignorant!

  • lambert giang
    lambert giang Před 14 dny +1

    You can see 2 workers at the beginning of the picture but Chia already started trial of humanlike robots working under the car, so, automation is the only way to survive or pay for more expensive human made cars then see how much more competitive you can be and then no more industry.

  • S P I D E R
    S P I D E R Před 14 dny +7

    RIP Volkswagen in China, the brand's largest market.

  • Prashant Kumar
    Prashant Kumar Před 14 dny +21

    Unionised western countries can NEVER compete with China or India in any industry or category. Long Live India & China.

    • SjhAS Sjh
      SjhAS Sjh Před 14 dny +7

      Don't lump India with china, Vietnam exports more than lndia

    • Jason How
      Jason How Před 14 dny +5

      Does it has anything to do with India?

  • Ramy S.
    Ramy S. Před 7 dny

    Not only the chinese have the best battery technologies and better access to raw materials but also they're more and more good in design quality of manufacturing and finish. The chinese have a paved road to dominate the world market of smart cars.

  • NKi86
    NKi86 Před 15 dny +26

    EU commission is being selfish.

  • BlardyMunggas
    BlardyMunggas Před 14 dny +2

    So EU leaders are giving more subsidies than them and for makings cheaper for everyone?? EU leaders are so caring😂

  • LWRC
    LWRC Před 12 dny +2

    China has 4X the population of the US. Assuming they have a 3:1 advantage in terms of the engineers they produce, that is a hugh technical advantage!!! How many home grown Americans have an Engineering degree??!!! You can see how this technical game is going to turn out even if you take out the factor they manipulate their currency for competitive advantages!!!

  • Goat Rock Hunters
    Goat Rock Hunters Před 14 dny +1

    Imagine having an interview like this on any MSM network in the US.

  • bob charles
    bob charles Před 11 dny +3

    The bottom line is that you can't penalized China for think and investing ahead and being right about it! The is the goal of capitalism, silly!

  • Odys Liu
    Odys Liu Před 14 dny +1

    Chinese EV subsidy is exiting from Jan 2023. Now almost completely gone except tax reduction for consumer.

  • F0X
    F0X Před 11 dny

    Do keep in mind that we are talking about car manufacturing, the average USA salary is $11 per hour, but car factories pay $45/hour plus Dividends, last year Ford paid $9,000 in Dividends to floor employees, plus other benefits, the total wage per hour is estimated at around $63 per hour, my point is that car manufacturers dont pay minimum wage in any nation. And if the union gets the %40 increase then they wd get around $100 per hour (with total benefits) thats way more than the $11 per hour national average

  • Nelson Guzman
    Nelson Guzman Před 15 dny +36

    I thought we must let the market do its thing? Capitalism 101 right?

    • Anshu Raj
      Anshu Raj Před 13 dny

      Does China? No

    • Nelson Guzman
      Nelson Guzman Před 13 dny

      @Anshu Raj of course, for Capitalism to suntain itself, it needs the State. Anarcho-capitalists and Libertarians seem to forget that.

    • Anshu Raj
      Anshu Raj Před 13 dny

      @Nelson Guzman

  • Jim Bob
    Jim Bob Před 4 dny

    On EV price the US could not compete with China because:
    1. Both almost have the same level technology (= car quality)
    2. US has higher manufacturing cost structure than China: workers wage, raw materials

    THE SECOND GROUP Před 11 dny +3

    These western countries make us laugh sometimes.
    Firstly, did any western country acknowledge the complaints of developing nations when they were complaining bitterly about gargantuan prices of western car brands?
    Secondly, did any western country see the need to pressurise these car companies to reduce their prices?
    They rather claimed developing nations were poor and hence the reason for their inability to purchase big western car brands.
    Thirdly, did any western country complain about unfair practices be it pricing or government subsidies when it was only their cars that were gaining huge market share just a decade ago?
    Do western countries think this world only revolve around them? No.
    If they're cheating the rest of the world, they call us dumb, fair trade etc.

  • Mika Filtenborg
    Mika Filtenborg Před 14 dny +1

    TESLA No.1 EV-maker on planet Earth 🏁🥇🏆🎉🎉👍

  • iScoopyPal
    iScoopyPal Před 14 dny +8

    The next complaint would be China stole EV technology from countries that produced more expensive and less advanced EVs. Once China dominates the EV industry, the West will change course and declare that EVs are not green. No matter what the West does, China will move on with Asia, Russia, South America, and Africa. These new markets are ripe and China controls the design, raw materials, and the supply chain. The West will struggle with both combustion and EV engines. They don't have petroleum or electrical energy and yet, they restrict themselves from acquiring them. Most importantly, they rage war with their biggest customer which is China. The only solution is to complain and cry foul. Until they wake up and behave like real adults, don't bother them. Sun Tzu said that if your enemy is making a mistake, let him carry on.

  • Mack Bedunduk
    Mack Bedunduk Před 15 dny +7

    EU should cancel Free Market regulation forgood 🤣🤭

  • Tan Boon Chong
    Tan Boon Chong Před 8 dny

    It's more of protective their legacy maker and give them more time to transition to fully ev play

  • Henry Smith
    Henry Smith Před 14 dny

    The anchor man shot insightful questions indeed. The three interviewees are all matter of factly style with individualized perspective. Their way of talking politics are quite interesting too.

  • Odys Liu
    Odys Liu Před 14 dny +1

    nice interview, great host and guests.

  • Dong Jeff
    Dong Jeff Před 11 hodinami

    In 2009, the administration dedicated $2.4 billion of the $787 billion stimulus bill to promote battery and EV production. Consumers can get a federal tax credit of up to $7,500 for buying electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids. The Obama administration has repeatedly proposed boosting the credit to $10,000.

  • Middle Path
    Middle Path Před 6 dny

    They just have the competitive advantage simple, efficient n productive workers, economy of scale of almost eveything due to large domestic market. And subsidies for going green are from all around the world, not just in China.

  • robert friesen
    robert friesen Před 12 dny

    Haven’t discussed the Japanese auto industry which has been very slow to transition to EV. Do they have a different strategy?

    • Rudus
      Rudus Před 5 dny

      Toyota is betting on hydrogen not on EVs.

    ICEMAN GT Před 11 dny

    Well, if EU consumers prefer paying higher prices for EVs, then why not?

  • David Richards
    David Richards Před dnem

    Here in SE Asia, american cars are non-existent now, and japanese dealers are closing down every week whilst Chinese EV dealerships open new location every month. And why not? The Chinese cars cost half as much and have equal-to-better quality per local consumer reports.

  • Thomas Rogers
    Thomas Rogers Před 14 dny +1


  • Zdzislaw Meglicki
    Zdzislaw Meglicki Před dnem

    It's not just a matter of cheap labour. Above all, it's a matter of know-how, retooling, design, engineering… Detroit automakers failed on all accounts in the past, which is why the GM and Chrysler went bankrupt and Ford just about managed to scrape through. All three are heading for the ash heap of history, and good riddance to bad rubbish.

  • Justin Dressler
    Justin Dressler Před 7 dny +2

    Fortunately in Australia we don't have a car manufacturing industry here anymore so hopefully we get cheap Chinese cars here without massive import taxes.

    • David Richards
      David Richards Před dnem

      China EV cost US$8K in Malaysia today. Basic but reliable. For 11K you get more luxury, and for a bit more, a 405HP EV that will wow you, like a girl with loose plain clothes that cover a body to die for. In both cases, it's suprise and woo-hoo!!

  • Harbinger
    Harbinger Před 14 dny

    To be fair would all electric vehicles have same charging ports🩵🤔

  • Honest Joe
    Honest Joe Před 8 dny +2

    While the legacy auto makers have been enjoying their huge profits from ICE vehicles, China moved forward.
    The automotive traditionalists are like dinosaurs while new auto companies have new legacy costs and could see themselves becoming assemblers of multiple OEM’s in the future

  • Eason Huang
    Eason Huang Před 14 dny +1

    Europe will be able to use tariff to protect its auto industry, which makes it into a zombie industry and cannot compete overseas, will see how that goes.
    Sad to see Europe has lost its advantage.

  • DP Blue
    DP Blue Před 6 dny

    While Aljazeera topic is a hot one, the news anchor did not allow the commentators to fully expressed their point. He interrupted several times the direction of the conversation.

  • Dave Parsons
    Dave Parsons Před 10 dny +1

    Tesla is the US answer to competition from China. The company already has a charging infrastructure built out in the US and Europe. China can't import cars to the US without massive tariffs. The traditional auto companies in the US will get smaller while Tesla gets much larger.

    • torelloBank
      torelloBank Před 2 dny

      and tesla is made in china... irony

  • Rikky Goh
    Rikky Goh Před 14 dny +1

    China EV needs to JV to modernize Russia's Makes for exports. In even where E.U. & U.S. unfair trade restricting China's EV imports

  • Big Lebowski
    Big Lebowski Před 7 dny

    How about governments giving electric cars for free to those who qualify?

  • john gordon
    john gordon Před 8 dny +1

    Innovation around the world been slowing due to all these bureaucracies

  • Max Headrom
    Max Headrom Před 9 dny

    I have a question for you Al Jazeera: are fully electric cars really a solution? Batteries are really expensive and the manufacturing produces not only carbon but also heavy metal pollutions. The raw materials for batteries are also causing mayhem mainly in Africa. A completely electri drivetrain is more efficient - it's simpler, less friction and allows for regenerative breaking. However, I have heard no one talking about the new HCCI ICE engine that is as efficient as a gas turbine and that could be used to generate power on what is called, iinm, Plug-in Hybrids. The HCCI engine has the same thermic efficiency of a gas turbine.
    I know there's path dependency but we should remember that global warming is a result of path dependency and we should be able to change paths when we realize the new path is better.

    • elmohead
      elmohead Před 3 dny

      Sodium batteries are coming. Don't worry.

  • Nick Ngunjiri
    Nick Ngunjiri Před 21 hodinou

    If you can't compete with them ban them 😅😂

  • Max Kick
    Max Kick Před 4 dny

    Why on earth is the EU not subsidizing as much?

  • Lei Wu
    Lei Wu Před 14 dny +3

    Chinese president Xi Jinping is an INTJ, that's why China became so competitive in EV. ❤

  • Bafo Stiti
    Bafo Stiti Před 15 dny +7

    So does employment not get affected in areas where EU and US export their vehicles ,isn't business about competition or it's only ok when the big guys do as they please with their products in other countries
    Why are they worried now about China EV cos they the ones who pushed for EV

  • Urim Tefiki
    Urim Tefiki Před 14 dny

    You make trade battles, I will watch you from the window of my dental practice as I did in the last four years.