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CHAPTERS
00:00 Opening
01:38 Genie+ Rebranded, Lightning Lane Advance Purchase Coming to Walt Disney World
04:13 Lightning Lane Multi Pass Option to Utilize Attraction Tiers at Walt Disney World
06:52 Tom's Thoughts on Lightning Lane Changes
12:17 New Mickey Waffles Replace Beloved Waffle Sandwiches at Magic Kingdom
13:57 Tom's Reaction to New Sleepy Hollow Menu
14:59 Brush Fire Scene Restored on Living With the Land in EPCOT
16:20 Zootopia Land Display Under Construction at EPCOT
18:44 New Gray Grinning Loth-Cat Mug Available at Disney’s Hollywood Studios
19:48 New Hoop-Dee-Doo Musical Revue 50th Anniversary Merchandise
20:43 Disney Fined For Deceptive Business Practices Regarding Annual Passholder Park Reservations
22:18 Disney Adventure Cruise Ship Details Revealed Including Marvel & Big Hero 6 Areas
27:16 Buzz Lightyear’s Astro Blasters Closing Celebration Begins July 2nd with Ride Overlay
29:49 Hong Kong Disneyland Reports Record-Breaking Q1 2024, Attendance Rebound in FY23
32:22 World of Frozen at Hong Kong Disneyland to Feature Holiday Celebrations
33:22 Sign-off
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When everyone has Lighting Lane…
No one does.
Well everyone used to have 3 fast passes for free. I wish they would go back to that. You think if the lines were removed wait times would be quicker in general?
The problem with a low cost line-skip is that because of the price point, it makes it pretty much mandatory to buy one. Having a higher price line-skip is actually a good thing because it means less people buy it, which means standby line moves a little quicker and it doesn't feel like it's required.
This! If “everyone” has a fast pass, then no one has one. Cast members take 9 LL guests for every 1 standby guest, making the stand by lines excruciating
Honestly the best would most likely be no Lightning lane/fast pass system at all.
@@MaximilianZ96- nope. That would suck.
@@LauraB.335 It really wouldn’t. The proof was there just before Genie+ launched. Park numbers were back up, but wait times stayed down. The longest wait I had during that period for anything was 35 minutes. Most were 15-20.
I personally am for only spending something like $25 to skip the line vs. hundreds of dollars for universal's express pass or staying at their premier hotel. If I can cut out 3-4 hours of wait time, it's worth it to me.
I understand this doesn’t affect you guys but there are a LOT of guests each year from international destinations and with this, unlike with FastPass+, you are not able to pre-book your Lightning Lanes until you actually step foot in the US. So you don’t get the 7 day advantage if you’re staying on property. You don’t even get the 3 day advantage. You’re left with the dregs that are available on the day you arrive. More needs to be made of this and Disney needs to sort it out. The old system allowed ticket holders from anywhere to pre-book so why doesn’t Lightning Lane?
That news wasn’t out when this was recorded and was not mentioned here
People are going to learn how to use VPNs fast
@@mattdaaamonpeople are saying that vpns won’t work as you must use the app. Also, Disney+ can detect vpns so I would not think that is an option.
@@EEB1112 they will work if you have a good enough vpn
@@WDWNTso are you going to address that in a separate video??
If you think they did this because "they listened to the fans," you're delusional. There is no way they are doing this for any other reason than to justify increasing the cost of the service significantly. Glad they're making this change, but I would be shocked if by this time next year prices aren't insanely higher than what they were with Genie+.
I’m sure the dynamic pricing is still a part of it. 😢
@@teddanson37 plus they’re forcing the people who cannot get approved for DAS to purchase genie plus so that they can continue to go to the parks and enjoy the rides!!
It's now and has always been to extract as much cash out of you as fast as possible.
I’m sure there’s a method to their madness.
As a person with low vision, the more I can do on a big screen and full-size keyboard at my own speed at home, instead of a phone screen with a bug-ridden app and bad wifi, in the blinding glare of the Florida sun, at the last minute, in a rush, while dodging other pedestrians with my nonexistent peripheral vision, is a win.
❤ hug 🫂
Disney originally built Fast Pass into the price of the ticket. This is just another method to push the cost of the guest experience. I consider it similar to Disney charging for parking at their hotels.
Soon outdoor queues that have a covered part will have that removed. Oh! You want the sun to stop beating down on you for 100 minutes? Buy Iger+ ! Must buy for every member in your package and you must pay for entire length of stay - even if it’s your last day.
The cooling fans in Rise are getting replaced with heat lamps 🤣
Everything is getting more expensive. I wouldn't expect anything less from disney
@@metallicnole4514nope Disney prices have been going up beyond other forms of entertainment even factoring inflation in. It's not an inflation problem. It's a Disney problem.
@@mattdaaamon So long as people are paying it, disney can charge whatever they want because they are considered a premium product. But you are free to spend your money however you see fit. Should ralph lauren be charging as much as they do for polo shirts?
Everyone loves the Spirit Airlines approach of purchasing everything separately, right??
My understanding is, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but International guests staying on property DO NOT have access to this system until we are on US soil which means we can't book anything until the day before or day of. How is this fair, there is no perk for us? At least with Genie+ we were all on equal footing. Because they changed the DAS system I no longer qualify for DAS so I was really counting on Genie+ but if International guests can't book until we arrive on US soil and everything good is booked there is no point for me to go to Disney. If this is true this really sucks.
Thank god, being able to do these in advance was so helpful back in the day.
Tom I really don't feel like Genie+ being cheaper than the competition is really a benefit though, I find it as a net negative unless you are dead set that you're going to pay for the service. I have never seen "skip the line" affect standby queue as much at any other park than I have at Disney resorts, yeah it's more expensive at Universal, or Cedar Fair parks, etc, but no where do I see 6+ LL people go for every 1 guest in standby on such a consistent basis, sure you may get a rush of people on a particular ride at other parks, but once that rush is over it's over, at Disney parks that LL queue just gobbles people up who get reminders from their phone that it's time to go and they get in line walking straight past everyone who's had concrete poured over their feet aka standby line.
Yes, you still have standby, and you will have an absolutely horrible experience as a resort, you paid to get into the park just like everyone else, but drawing a line in the sand to not pay an extra $30 should not be punished this harshly. Disney simply overbooks LL reservations too damn much, that 6:1 ratio I mentioned earlier that translates to 86% of the ride capacity goes to LL, that is beyond wrong. Disney does it because they feel that they have a financial responsibility to those who pay for the service as you can see by people who lined up to complain about not getting reservations, where as if you pay for the entry and complain that every ride was well over an hour wait, they give you a blank stare and tell you that you can buy Genie+ to save time, yeah that actually happened to me my last trip over 2 years ago, which is why it was my last trip.
EXACTLY!
It's a good start. They'll need to do a lot more before I'll spend my money visiting them again.
Tom delivering this news (and analysis) making my day.
Main issue is being outside the USA you can’t book until you are in the USA
It is unfortunate that Disney went to only one time a day per ride and booking in advance used to be 60 days if staying on property and 30 days if not staying on property.
Yep.
Unfortunately, International guests staying on-property are excluded. I am super bummed.
Me too! As a Canadian I am very upset.
Here is my perspective as someone who has never been to Florida: with Universal you buy one extremely expensive ticket but then you basically walk on to every attraction and never have to look at your phone.
Disney World seems to require an advanced degree in order to understand how everything works. I’ve been researching Genie+ for about six weeks in preparation for my first trip and now they are changing the whole thing a week before my vacation and I am STRESSED. There won’t be enough time for me to research everything before I have to start booking. It also means I have to wake up at 4am (on the west coast) to book lightning lanes for my entire week stay. I don’t want to book LL in advance. I want to go with the flow and see where the day takes me. I have a park hopper ticket and was just planning to decide which parks I would rope drop on which days as I was going along. Now I feel like I have to pre plan everything. I hated booking dining reservations 60 days out because who knows where I’ll be or what I’ll want to eat two months from now? I ended up canceling all those dining reservations because of that.
Why not just give resort guests three LL per day that they can use on any attraction? And then just book one LL at a time throughout your day after that? No advanced planning or strategy required.
I love this idea! Even 1 or 2 “free” LL’s per resort guest would feel like a true perk
I understand your frustration and also would like it if Disney would do what Universal does.
Our family travels to Disney World at least once a year.
I would recommend that you try to rebook your dinning reservations. Some of the restaurants are difficult to get into while at the parks without a reservation.
You can always cancel them up to two hours before.
We like to have a sit down meal once a day and just have a snack or quick service for others. It's nice to have a break from the heat and relax for an hour or so while at the parks.
While it would be nice to be able to be spontaneous and go with the flow (you can do this but) if you want to minimize wait times for rides and dining IMHO it's better to embrace what Disney is and try and schedule things in advance.
If you have any questions about your upcoming trip feel free to ask. Maybe I can help.😀 I like to think I know how to do Disney World pretty well.
@@kkoch5290Thank you. That’s very kind. ☺️
Once I figured out how the genie plus worked it wasn't too bad. At least with the new system allows you to prebook rides which cuts down on spending your face in your phone and you can book a new ride after using your LL without having to wait the 2 our rule. So I would say this is an improvement.
If you gave every guest 3 free “Fast Passes” to use wherever they wanted then most guests would go to the top rides and “lightening lane””Fast Pass” lane would be as long as the stand-by lane (not exactly as long but so long that it wouldn’t feel like a lightening lane”).
I am so happy for this change. This will make planning our morning or afternoon around what is available so much easier and better than manically refreshing on our phones every 5 seconds! we will also be able to figure out what side of the park we can start with in places like MK where bouncing back and forth was a huge issue. Thanks for the update!
Wait wait wait a sec... I understand Royal Pacific rooms are not anything special but if you tell me the rooms at the Poly are worth the price without any benefits, I'm going to laugh in your face.
I’d rather not skip the line at good rides than skip the line at rides I don’t like, but also the rooms at Royal Pacific are old and dark and sad
@@WDWNT Are you trying to say you don't like Universal's rides? Also Polys rooms are slightly less old and slightly less dark and in a $750/night motel... I don't understand your point
@@WDWNTyou must have stayed in a really bad room, the room I stayed in last year was bright looked remodeled had floral decorations in room to make it feel tropical and very comfortable beds and amazing hotel grounds and last time I checked still did the Luau that Polynesian got rid of, I think you are in the big minority on this opinion of Universal Premier hotels
Great unless your an international guest and then you can't purchase it
It sucks that international guests like myself that pay a fortune to come from the UK can’t purchase or book Lightening until we are on American soil, for us (as for most guest from the UK I’m sure) that’s the day before the parks…… and we are staying in a Disney hotel so where is our benefit? Is there gonna be anything left?? 🤷🏼♀️
Surely we can book this from the uk if we’re staying in a Disney hotel? If it helps, I just use a VPN.
@@michaelcraigkaiser The official line is they will block VPN and you can't do it. But until it all is up and running in late July we won't know. I work in travel and Disney know very well that many from the UK do 2-3 wks and more and more we are seeing split stays. So for us next year we will be doing 5 nights at Universal then a couple of nights at clearwater and finally doing 12 nights at Disney so I will be able to take advantage when we are in the US. If you are doing 2 weeks at Disney only as soon as you get to the US you should be able to select for the whole of your stay if onsite so just pay for later days you will have more options in. If offisite don't buy it for the first few days and just buy it for 3 days ahead so the same as those in the US. You don't need to buy it everyday really. Maybe take the first few days to enjoy the parks and do some rides with lower waits and get the LL locked in for later in your stay. Its a pain and feels very unfair to Int visitors but we get more holiday time than the US and can just not use it for the first few days
@@michaelcraigkaiserthat was my thinking as well. I can only think that Disney's US requirement is due to some type of regulation, I don't think they would purposely wanted it that way
Even though I will be staying at a Disney Hotel, I will not be able to book my Multi/Single Passes until I arrive in the US because I am a internal guest😠
I actually wish it was still Genie+ as it was fairer for international guests.
Maybe a VPN can help with this?
This new system perfectly combines the worst aspects of both FastPass+ (rides running out of passes well before the day of unless you book an onsite hotel and do your homework in advance) and Genie+ (being a paid version of something we used to have for free). This may actually be the very worst line skip system ever devised. If one class divide in the Disney parks wasn't enough, now you have two (onsite and offsite + Multi Pass or none).
This is going to be a nightmare!
It's really frustrating that it's only for US citizens only - makes it harder for people from abroad. I'm hoping it's like a testing phase before rollout - definitely better system though!
one thing I hate is that with the old fast pass system, international guests were able to make a selection prior to when they arrive now they can not even do that!
Yeah what kind of act is that? I thought everyone was welcome?!
I still feel this is needlessly complicated with the tier systems and individual Lightning lanes.
Thank you Tom!!!! I hate boarding groups and virtual queue as well! I'm glad someone said it!
It’s hardly a hot take. All everyone feels this way. We’ve all accepted them as a necessary evil.
I feel like Tom's reading spooky campfire stories to us. That's okay, some of this news is scary. "...and then they tore down Luau Cove and replaced it with a Courtyard by Marriott DVC!!!" ( Thunder, lightning, kids scream and run away. )
From the UK…this makes it way harder 😢
Yeah, we didn’t know that when this was recorded
@@WDWNT 👍🏻
In what way?
@@michaelcraigkaiser even if staying on site you can’t do this 7 days in advance. C ant do anything until you land in the USA.
@@LMC_CD, i’ve used a VPN before to make bookings on the MDE app at the 60 day window. I’d have thought you could still do that?
It’s just crazy to me how stuff like this will add 500-700 bucks to family’s vacation.
We are postponing our Disney trip because of the cost. Was this fall...now it may not be until '25 or '26. Too bad...we haven't been there in years. Disney must now wait to get our money.
@jeremiahbachmann3901 cancel it all together and go to universal. Post covid disney isn't the same. It peaked in 2018. I love most of the resorts and disney springs though... stay on disney property, eat at disney springs, go to the universal parks. Perfect vacation.
@@mattclark2655 Universal charges $105+ for their Express Pass.
@@jeremiahbachmann3901I recommend putting your money towards Universal or another place
@@mattclark2655Universal is more expensive and lower quality services, food and cleanliness.. and their line skipping service will more than double the cost of your entry, and it is still an old pen + paper system.. you are crazy to think WDW is too expensive for what it offers and then you suggest Universal!?!?!? 😂
This is a complete slap in the face to locals, especially APs. While Genie+ certainly was far from perfect, everyone was on an even playing field starting at 7am each day. Now, hotel guests will snag all of the desirable lightning lane slots, leaving locals and APs with leftover junk. This new system completely terminates any spontaneity and will ruin the guest experience of Orlando natives who kept Disney operational throughout these last couple of years.
Very true but you know we did our job and got them thru the pandemic with our loyalty and now we just get constantly kicked to the curb 😂
Really could give a crap less what the 'industry is doing'. This is still a service that should be included with your park ticket and/or resort package. The wait times posted will now be even more inaccurate to encourage guests into purchasing LL/LL+. Also until cast members are trained properly in loading ride vehicles the stand-by lane is still going to frustrating.
Universals fast pass system while more expensive doesn't require me to be on my phone all day, doesn't require project management skills and when included at Deluxe hotels it actually provides more value for the vacation.
What attractions at MK are "not" available for people to walk up and wait in line for? I fully believe the 7am "lottery" is a total scam that FORCES people to pay to ride on days where Disney wants "all" guests to pay. At least Universal makes all attractions available for walk-up waiting.
Is it irrational to complain that anyone travelling to WDW from another country and staying at a WDW resort will not receive any kind of lightning lane booking priority?
Yes.
Aren't they getting an extra 4 days to book their initial Lightning lane bookings?
@@MartyNev6 No, Disney stated that you cannot book until you are in the U.S.
Someone from the U.S. staying at a WDW resort can book 7 days ahead. Someone from the U.S. but not staying at a WDW resort can book 3 days ahead. Someone travelling to WDW from Canada, Mexico or the U.K. and staying at a WDW resort cannot book until they land in Orlando. The MDE will not accept the purchase from outside the U.S.
A VPN can make it so you appear to be in the US.
the disability was great the weight times were more then waiting in line but i didn't have a heart attack trying to wait in line getting rid of it is horrible
There are still major theme parks without line skipping - look at Europa Park run by Mack in Germany. 2nd most attended theme park in Europe, arguably the best, and waits are kept to a minimum thanks to it. The only upcharges on attractions are for the VR versions of coasters.
I didn’t know that
@@WDWNT Can't recommend the park enough - definitely make an effort to head out there sometime!
Europa park has line skipping....it's just free!
I agree that resort guests should have an advantage, 14 days would be perfect. However, as a non-resort guest, I wish that the 3 days was 7 or more, because here we will still have to deal with it during our trip.
explain how this is better than current genie +. I just got back from a Disneyland vacation and used Genie plus . It went smoothly with booking because I understood how to use it and made the most out of my day . We were able to go on most of all the rides we wanted to go on during our first day with no issues. On top of that we were able to use out genie plus on the same day at DCA. Now we can only use the LL one park per day. This this affect Disneyland too? or is this for WDW ?
I think a main complaint (propbably more particular to WDW) is guests wanted to get them in advance. Some people want to not get up at 7 am on vacation.
I prefer the Universal Studios express pass model. Is it more expensive yes. If I have to pay, I want to ride when I want and not be on my phone. Yes, if you pony up for the deluxe hotels, you deserve some extras.
I'm glad you can purchase the passes in advance. I still see the same problem with this new model as the old FP+ and ADR. I found that if you aren't on vacation for a week or longer, you don't get a chance at the more popular ride or restaurant.
Its not so much 'line skipping'. Results vary because too many guests use the service. Its more of a priority lane with shorter waits than the regular wait. At non Disney parks, it feels more like a walk-on 'line skip' experience. Costs a lot more though.
I keep forgetting to comment that I love the transitions between pics.
The Genie + only allowed you to select a ride once. For example, if you used Genie + for Pirates of the Caribbean, you couldn't use it for that ride again. The old Fast Pass would let you repeat. Do you know if the new system allows repeat use for the same ride?
I get the feeling regular standby line wait times are gonna dramatically increase again soon.
So Disney are allegedly unable to provide this new pay service to Europe and the UK ...Any feedback on what is going on there?
The fact that international visitors won´t be able to book their passes until they get to the US makes NO SENSE
Invest in a good VPN. Trick it into thinking you are stateside.
That Is weird because biden gives all nonAmericans free access to everything 😆
@@jeremym1365 it is being reported that VPNs are not working to avoid that
@@jeremym1365You’ll have to spoof your GPS too
From what I’ve been reading and hearing the new system is basically the old system, fast pass plus but you gotta pay for it
And you'll probably get to ride the rides you want, the old fast passes were gone pretty quick. This is good for some non AP visitors the most.
Basically, Fastpass+ but with a twist some of the real premium rides aren't FP+ they're extra super secret handshake (with a $20 in your hand) rides. Oh, and some rides that never were on FP+ now have LLs
My only disagreement Tom is with your comment regarding hotel rooms, Universal rooms seem to lack storage space especially if you are staying for two weeks as we Brits do, however i don't think WDW rooms are great either, most of the so called refurbished resorts have lost all character, and as for sleeping on Murphy beds for the price they charge, don't get me started.!
I'm SO sick of the "in advance" bull$#!+. It NEEDS to be like Tokyo where you can't book fast passes UNTIL you physically enter the park. What happens when a family of 12 from Ohio takes up 36 spots a week in advance, then gets food poisoning and can't make it??? Priority needs to go to people who are actually THERE. 🙄
Disney should turn into SeaWorld in terms of listening to customers. Have the president of Walt Disney world have a q&a with annual passholders, and that he response to every email he gets.
"Disney should turn to Seaworld..." is a statement I thought I'd never see
@@TheMess9898 it’s true tho I never thought I would ever say that
Sea world doesn’t train their cast members
@@PatThePerson to smile?
That would be nice, but I think it wouldn't be feasible since the president of WDW has to worry about his VPs of the 4 parks, water parks, all of the GMs of the resort hotels and countless F&B depts, Disney Springs ops, on top of the PR/marketing dept, general ops, facilities management, transportation depts, maintenance of the entire resort........ I'll stop there lol cause this list would be endless. I wonder🤔 if he has about 30 different emails separated by category for different department related memos and questions 😅lol
Today's Disney ONLY listens and hears ONLY what they wish to hear - what Guests REALLY want is the return of FREE Fast Pass. Somehow they don't hear that. To say Disney "listened" is to encourage and embolden the current managements continued and non stop poor decisions. When Guests ACCEPT this kind of up-charge (or Park changes) as acceptable you are just encouraging them to continue this kind of management behavior. Stop settling - hold Disney to the HIGH standard it's founder set!! The days of Disney being Guest oriented ended 2 decades ago. I've been attending WDW since the 70's and SADLY stopped attending 5 years ago. Anyone remember night Parades etc .... need I go on? :(
Fast Pass was never free. It was just part of what you received when you paid for your park ticket prior to COVID. Many visitors made use of it and many did not.
Disney decided they wanted to raise park tickets significantly but did not want the price increase to discourage too many guests… going from $80 / day to almost $140 / day would do that for many people.
So they divided their guests into affluent and non-affluent groups and charged what they believe is the maximum amount each group will tolerate in price increases.
Over time Disney will see diminishing attendance from both groups as the vacation experience value for the cost is not the same as it was before COVID.
In short Disney killed its own goose that laid the golden egg.
They are on the media list. They are therefore required to praise Disney, even if they say they aren’t. They profit from this by free cruises, event access and hotels and merchandise. WDWNT and all on the media list are are acting in their own interest and that of Disney. They are therefore required biggest enablers of destroying the Disney experience that made Disney what it is..
@ZakZak-mz2ux perhaps, yet it being built-in to your vacation made things a lot more convenient. They are still definitely making extra $$$ from this system though and also by scrapping the Magical Express and "free" magic bands. All those built-in perks going whilst ticket prices rise.....its sticking 2 fingers up at customers isn't it?
Why would Disney make it free when their competitors charge a fee for the “skip the line” service. That would not be a prudent financial decision.
Please everyone complain about the waffle they took away from Sleepy Hollow. With enough social media attention on the fruit slop that replaced fresh fruit, we should be able to get it back.
No it isn’t going anywhere you can thank the Disney Dining plan for all this, every time that plan goes into effect the food at WDW goes down drastically in quality and offerings, look what they did to le cellier in Epcot, that menu is a shell of its former self but it is cheaper for Disney to offfer because most people at the resorts right now have the dining plan and Disney will cut food quality and costs while that plan is being offered
I think the Universal model is still better. I get it's an expensive one off payment but once I buy that I can then just get in (a usually very short line) whenever I want without having to then go on my phone to hopefully reserve a time
If they were really "listening," they would've brought back the entire Fast Pass system (or never stopped it in the first place.) They just made enough changes to "quiet the noise" while still ripping guests off their money, time, and legitimate need for DAS. Making it free again would significantly lessen all three.
A paid skip the line service is the industry standard for theme parks. Even six flags has paid skip the line. In a business sense, why would the most visited theme park in the world give something for free that every other park is charging for?
Something for free? We are already paying an expensive price to be in there. That's why the Fast Pass was perfect, I miss it.
I think Mr. Walter Disney wouldn't like the idea of charging more to his guests for a fast line.
@@anacatalinalopezlutz3143 It's funny that disney is the only park people are complaining about a free fast pass when every other park has a paid skip the line service. Universal used to have a similar free express pass back in 2000. But I don't see anyone complaining that they got rid of it.
No theme uses free skip the line lol
Never would work now
Lol
@@KG-tl1ox I know. It's annoying when people keep complaining about it when every park has a paid fast pass type of service.
It's stll a complicated system that may confuse a lot of guests that still make disney park vaccations burocratic. Additionaly, Disney screwd with international guests making mandatory to be in the USA to do the 7 or 3 days booking in advanve. This is an awful and unfair decision by Disney that will make international guests experience worst.
My son recently said, “Disney never fails to disappoint anymore.” That was even before he knew the waffle sandwiches were gone.
Only WDW resort guests IN THE US can purchase LL 7 days in advance. International guests cannot.
We are already paying an expensive price to be in there. That's why the Fast Pass was perfect, I miss it.
I think Mr. Walter Disney wouldn't like the idea of charging more to his guests for a fast line.
Also I think he wouldn't like adding stress to their guests joyful vacation, by virtual queues, boarding groups, cellphone and internet dependings.
It's sad that international travelers are being left behind.
At this point I’d honestly rather Disney just raise admission to $200 a person and eliminate all line bypass/reservation services. Disney gets their extra revenue, lines are more efficient, I don’t need to be glued to my phone, and a more equitable experience for ALL guests.
Yeah, the nickel-and-diming just makes everything more stressful.
If I pay for a ticket to get in. Besides food and merch I’m not paying anything extra for rides. That’s the whole point of my expensive ticket. To ride rides.
Waffle sandwiches at sleepy hollow were the best. Always looked forward to them. Very disappointed.
I said the same thing. The waffles look a little lifeless and bland now
I’m very glad to know that Tom loves Hong Kong Disneyland!
Our local park, valley fair, charges $80 for skip the line service. Costs more than an admission ticket. Good thing about it though I wish Disney would just do is the $80 lets you skip the lines for 20 rides, no need to pick certain time window.
Screw paying extra just to skip lines, we are already paying exorbitant park admission costs as well as merchandise and dining is way more expensive than many can afford.
Best explanation of the new lightning lane I've seen so far! Thanks, Tom!
I am 1975 vintage, and a huge Disney fan, HOWEVER I don’t want to have to spend hours figuring out how I can take my offspring to Disney and how to get to see the good attractions. Disney, you are falling way behind your creators vision. It’s too complicated.
If you exert an iota of effort you can learn it. I'm 40 years old and was able to teach my 76yo parents how to use everything in the app. Try. It's not that difficult if you remove the mental block of "it's new tech so it's hard". My mother had that same block.
Nonsense they're "falling way behind their creators vision". If you're honest with yourself and acknowledge history, Walt would have been at the forefront of incorporating new technology into the guest experience. He always was back then, thinking of what new things could be done.
Just think of all of the technological breakthroughs and cutting edge advancements that were in attractions and productions back then. The multi plane camera and existence of feature length animation, for starters. Then _the concept of a theme park._ Animatronics. Carousel of Progress. The monorail. The list goes on and on.
It's just an app, not Oogie Boogie.
I love it. Charge more. Give me a premium lighting lane. I’ll pay for it. The higher the cost the less people will buy it and the more likely I can get the times I want to skip the lines.
Wow, bringing my intellectually diaabled brother with cerebral palsy to dw this August. Seems so wrong to be forced to by LL vs das. This poor guy has had such a rough life with few perks. Shame on disney. This will be my last visit (spending over $10k to stay on property)
The only thing they could do better with fast pass is give it for free to those that stay in deluxe resorts.
i love NANA!!! I watched her review of the new Mickey waffles last night and my daughter and I laughed so hard! Love her honesty! Please do more videos with her!!!
Disney Resort Guests should, absolutely get extra perks. I am a Disneyland Magic Key holder and I firmly believe at the very least Disneyland Resort guest should get the 7-day advance perk as they do in WDW.
My understanding is, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but International guests DO NOT have access to this system until we are on US soil which means we can't book anything until the day before or day of. How is this fair, there is no perk for us? At least with Genie+ we were all on equal footing. Because they changed the DAS system I no longer qualify for DAS so I was really counting on Genie+ but if we International guests can't book until we arrive on US soil and everything good is booked there is no point for me to go to Disney. If this is true this really sucks.
@@theknittingchick I believe you are indeed correct. I don’t know why. Maybe it’s some restriction that has nothing to do with Disney at all but a rule they must adhere to? And being WDW gets a huge amount of tourist from Canada, Brazil and Argentina you would think if they could do this they would.
Maybe someone knows the answer to this.
I would think the extra perk is that you are so much closer to the parks that you literally can leave the park to go back to the resort if you need a break, and then right back in later if you want, at least for Disneyland parks, the bus system and distance to parks makes it a bit more difficult to pull off at WDW resorts without losing a big chunk of time to travel.
But more to your point, the extra perks used to be extra magic hours, back when you got either an extra hour before the park opened to others to a bonkers extra THREE hours after everyone else had to leave(at WDW at least), oh yeah if you needed to park... it was FREE. But unfortunately for the consumer Disney felt that they shouldn't have to give you anything that actually costs them any money, so they happily gave you the ability to make reservations earlier... weeeee 🙄
It _has_ been DECADES since the prairie fire has functioned. I didn't think my younger sister has EVER seen it since her first trip when she was 4 years old. _She's 28 now._
Tom, I LOVE your vlogs! I get excited when I see a new one!
I’m pretty sure staying at Universal is cheaper, you get better value for money and next year you’re getting a new theme park that looks incredible already. Not having to look at my phone the entire day is also a massive W.
Universal copies
They’ll be raising prices and implementing the same high price program
@@KG-tl1oxuniversal already has an express pass that costs way more. There is regular express which is each ride once and express unlimited. The one thing universal does that is better is inclue express for the highest tier ap after 4pm and express unlimited if you stay in one of their deluxe resorts. As express unlimited is always over $200 both are great values.
What about a mulit pass for more than one park? I heard nothing during my research. Any info?
The two best snacks were the waffle sandwiches in the whole park, no doubt. Open revolt!!
The Nutella waffle was definitely up there for me.
The cost for royal pacific is about what you pay for carribean beach and most mid tier disney resorts... so if you are "paying for express" at universal its relative isnt it?
serious question, as one of the biggest sources online for theme parks why does the WDWNT website invite comments from readers on articles on the website but never publish any? short staffed?
I would be upset if people who didn’t stay on property got the same perks as someone who did stay on property. It is more expensive and this is one of the reasons that people stay on site.
Annual Passholders should get the same perks, because Passholders are ones that create the fandom/nostslgia around Disney
I'm glad that resort guests still get benefits above others.
I get why it can be frustrating for those who can't afford it and have to stay off site, but those who stay in resorts usually traveled across the country if not the world and it may be the only time they get to go and I feel like it really helps a ton to help make sure that they get the chance to experience as much of the parks as they can. I know that's the case for those off property too but as always they can't please everyone.
It sucks that free fast pass is gone but free fast pass doesn't give those who traveled across the country any better benefit above those who live there and go all of the time.
Now we just need Bob Iger to go.
Would you rather have had bob chepek stay? It's important they take time to choose a new successor wisely
He definitely is. I think something was said about him actively choosing his successor not long after the "we don't hire white men" video footage came out.
I disagree with the talk about universal Orlando premier hotels, it is pretty much agreed on by the entire theme park going world that the value you get staying at a premier hotel at Universal is unbeatable. On average you pay 370-440 a night for the premier hotel and you get unlimited express pass and the hotel rooms are nice, at Disney you pay the same amount of money for just a value maybe a moderate hotel stay in a tiny room with no perks, Universal premier hotels= worth the money, Disney hotels= not worth it at all
Agree. Disney rooms are smaller, double the cost and you still have to buy LL if you want shorter lines.
@@heatherweber8785 exactly! I know many people that have stayed at universal premier hotels for their vacation stays even if they spend more time at Disney because of the perks and the rooms and everything they get for their money in general but especially when they go on their days to Universal
This is an improvement. Wish they didn't charge for fastpass like the old days.
It would be nice if WDW would just operate the rides the way they used to and the way they were intended to. I remember it used to be fair for everybody and everyone got on the rides in adequate time.
16:14 yay for living off the land upgrades!
I have said, "just give me FP" back and I would rather pay for that and make my selections then need to get up at 6:45 am while there and have my face planted in my phone all day.
MOOOOOLTIPASS. Somebody has been warching “The Fifth Element.”
14:44 Tom- "But Nana more than most of us". What I hear (bc I, too, am insane)- Banana more than most of us 😂🍌
It sounds like a good change, I disliked trying to be on my phone while in the parks. It does look like you can’t park hop with the new lightening lane? If not, that will mean choosing which park to purchase and will you have to have it for your reserved first park? Or is that still a thing? Guess I will still need a course on using this 😂
Oh, that new menu will not go over well. They best leave my corn dog alone! Sleepy Hollow is my first stop. Well, it was…
“LIGHTNING LANE” sure sounds like A-E Tickets from 1955…except it’ll also cost you an additional $200 just to get into the park. 🤨
WHERE IN THE WORLD IS ..TOM CORLESS…
Disney Hotel guess got 60 days advance reservations and other guests got 30 days. It was still hard to get reservations at 60 days for the top rides unless you had an extended stay to book them at the end days (like 10 to 14 days stays).
I don’t mind that resort guests get priority booking, I mind that now during my trip I have to book 3 days ahead of each park day, when with Fast Pass at least I was at home doing this. So it’s not the resort guest priority it’s the duration of the booking, means I’ll be doing it on my trip, which is in my opinion worse than Genie bc I have to think about a different day than the day I’m approaching. I wish it was even 14 and 7 days, because at 3 days I’m always going to be booking a park day while I’m going to a park.
When Disney created the fastpass I knew at the time that the sole purpose was to charge money to ride attractions. I think that the only reasons that they didn't do it sooner was because of the slowdowns after 9/11 and the great recession respectively, don't believe they were being altruistic.
The ONLY thing I understand from the change is dropping the genie-plus name,,,
And now it's ALL just called
'Lightning Lane - Stubs;; my AMC WALLET.....
designed by Igerbot' .
😁
A lot changed. Rewatch
@@TheMess9898Thanks friend.
For the raised prices you pay for admission, resorts, etc. at Disney the passes should be free for guests or at least resort guests sorry.
In an ideal world sure. But you also could give them no money and just get in standby.
@@WDWNTwaiting in sometimes 60 minutes + for a couple minutes attraction is no fun especially if you come with a big family with kids. An ideal world would be bring back the old Disney World the days when everything wasn’t so difficult and just about money. The change with the passes are heading in the right direction, but offering them free won’t break their bank just families.
Disney has made it almost impossible for families who have children with unseen disabilities. My now 4 yr old has a severe type one diabetes , where his sugar levels are so unmanageable and unpredictable. Simply being in the sun/heat for periods of time raises him blood sugar levels that can send him a coma (this is even with the proper insulin dosage ) . At those high levels his whole mental state is uncontrolled and it’s a miserable experience for us and the families who have to stand around us and listen to a toddler have a medical meltdown down and panicked parents . the DAS pass was our only saving grace to have an enjoyable experience at the parks. We get that some ppl abuse it yes . But you hurt the families who extremely need it . We are heading down for the Christmas party and we’re already mentally exhausted.
I mean is this not slightly dramatic? You are still waiting in the line which can still be as long as the standby sometimes.
@@CampbellzS0upI'll kind of agree. I have two family members with diabetes, and to say you slip into a coma just by standing in the sun is over dramatic and hard to believe. I don't even think diabetes is considered a disability.
@@CampbellzS0up clearly you never had to deal with being a care giver to someone with a medical disability. But anyways as you were .
@@narveldc8469 ignorants is such a bliss as you were also
I've been denied DAS for T1D ever since it was instituted. I was told it was explicitly excluded. DAS would have absolutely helped, but we've coped. I always have short and long acting carbs with me, as well as plenty of water. CGM has been a game changer, but before that, I did lots of finger sticks in line. We only go during winter; it still gets hot, but not debilitating.
That brush fire effect might have been broken since the 90s or early 2000s. Cuz I don't remember that being a part of the ride. Cool that it's back.
the menu item i miss was the bacon egg and cheese waffle sandwich in the mornings from back in the day on the regular round waffles folded in half... easy to eat and walk food for parks...
Just go back to the ticket books with A-E designations. In essence they are the same
i want disneyland fastpass back and i want it everywhere
I am excited Disney did listen. I agree Tom your being so positive and we agree what to much on this one :) As for the "new fastPass" I am holding off because we have seen no information on cost. Menu changes are reflected of the cost of food-- whatever Disney can do for cheap and charge $$$.