@@archiehenderson7043iphone 12 has the x55 which is kinda outdated specially as now some carrier are aggregating NR bands which the x55 modem the iPhone 12 has doesn't have
I'm currently with Three and honestly I cannot wait until my contract ends with them so I can switch to EE, I had nothing but issues on 3, and speeds suck but not only that but barely anything works regardless 4G or 5G, even being close to a tower.
If there is anything that I regret, it must be coming to the UK to study abroad, because I am used to China's national coverage signal, in contrast, the signal of the UK is ten times worse than that of China, and with the weather, the signal disappears in stages. It can be seen from this that the UK is the poorest developed country in the world, so if I could do it over again, I would not go to the UK to study.
Lots of missing information here, that seperates 4g from 5g such as increase MiMo capibilities. Also Carrier Aggeration with 5g will be key to produce those higher speeds. Must of know MMwave will be a bust for rual areas and even some subs but. 5g will pave the way for reducing or even eliminating network congestion. Making everyones connections more stable and usable in the long run.
Great video as usual. Lucky to be in an situation where everywhere I travel on three I get a great 5G service and if not a great 4G service, currently sat in a massive steel frame LED lined roof and still pull 1200mbps from three 5G, even some spots of the new forest I’ve pulled 800mbps speeds using 5G, it really depends on your surround areas. Just remember if it’s looks like a 5G mass, it may not always been a 5G mass that’s emitting ur network’s frequencies, maybe this was the reason to why you were close to that one and pulling slow speeds yet going to the industrial park next to another you pulled even better. Then you may have been connected to the same mass but being further away it was slower and closer being faster etc etc. I work in a phone shop and we usually say if you spend 50/50 time in city to rural areas there’s no harm in getting a 5G device providing there’s no price increase over 4G, because when u do go to those built up areas it will help you more in terms of fighting the huge number of devices connected to the same mass and slow speeds even with high strong signal! I’ve always said 85% of the population will be perfectly suited with 4G speeds on a mobile phone but benefit from the high client allocation of 5G, I find that being the best improvement in terms of service! Having 5G is brilliant specially in city zones because it taking more traffic away from 4G which can also help that service, this is a common trend when new technology comes into the community. But don’t forget your phone will always switch between the two modes based on what you are doing and if the increase power consumption is worth it
I feel like this is somewhat misguided it will take a while for the networks to build out their 5G network. Same thing happened when 4g was new. They've already started this with vodafone committing to switch off 3g by the end of their year and the other providers doing it next year. The 3G spectrum will be refarmed and used to boost existing 4g and 5g connections. Also aside from Three the other providers don't currently have 100mhz worth of 5g spectrum but with the other providers getting rid of 3g it should help fill that gap. Getting a 5g capable phone and contract will help future proof you.
Simple answer is Huawei 5G products are being removed from the UK in 2020 and still not fully removed the UK did not create fully functional 5G network across the country. so only core business area currently have 5G, if you work or live on those business area its worth getting 5G, if you dont best stick to 4G
@@tomroguk that explains why because Vodafone and o2 are the worst when it comes to 5g coverage the best for coverage is ee but if you want fast speeds and good coverage for cheap three is the best overall
This happens in most Europe, but in UK is even worse given it was sold as "more" and not "better" topped with the usual stupid-cost-cut as well (NSA and 4g co-existence). I would seriously start advertising and selling it as stable 5g (rock solid, get connection when you can't in crowded areas) and guarantee stable yet slower links. Not to mention the batteries suffer a lot (expecting the X75 if brings something AI new to the table).
Almost never use it , rarely see it near where I live and mostly see in London when I work there but then I also don’t have access to a charge and it just wipes out the battery on my phone so it generally spends it’s day with 5G disabled
Im on EE, its the only one with good enough coverage at my house, phone is an iPhone 14 and im on a 5GB 5G plan, I mainly use wifi at work and home so dont need a massive data plan. I had a look and EE are limited the speeds on my contract to 100mbps so it really makes no difference whether im on 5G on 4G the speeds are consistently the same.
Cell tower are connected via wireless links most of the time to save huge amount of money. This way the operators dont need to run fiber to the tower. This way the spare money, but the interconnect is done via directional antennas wich is most of the time does not capable to deliver the speed that 4G or 5G can offer. If wee feed the cell tower with multiple 10gbps fiber links, theres basically no limiting factor. I experience the same in germany where cell towers are mostly connected via wireless and only bigger cities have fiber connection. I get around 50-250Mbps where i live (depends on the time of the day) with the wirelessly connected cell towers and i measure 1.5-2Gbps in a bigger city nearby over 5G of course all the time.
Most urban locations have macros that are fed by fiber as it the best solution and a must for multi gig connections microwave links are mostly only used in rural areas or as backup in case fiber fails
You seem to be really smart with internet so I want to see if I can get a response from you. My internet a few weeks ago out of nowhere basically stopped working. I still get my high speeds, but kicked out of any game servers within 3 minutes of playing on a console or a phone, and also streaming tv non stop buffers and eventually freezes the app. I have called my ISP daily about this issue and they are convinced there is nothing wrong. Any thoughts on what the issue could be or any trouble shooting I could be doing?
get a roooted 5g android phone and install network signal guru, should give a lot of details about your cellular such as band, carrier aggregation info, neighboring cells etc. should help with day to day measurements
yeah i use power saving mode and let me tell you the battery life is far better but in doing so i lose my 5G and instead my mobile just uses 4G as using 5G is very heavy on power consumption
o2 is the worst company in the uk for Mobile data, I couldn't load a basic webpage in 90% of Cardiff central, apparently it is because they have sold off to three, Tesco and so on
5g makes 4g slower.4g in phone with 5g LTE is slower than in phone that doesnt have 5g support. I think if some phones have 5g support... the apps in this phone is not connecting to 4g!
I have Ee sim With a Outdoor Antenna on 4g+ with full bars I get 300Mbps Download and 65Mbps Upload at peak times it go down to 150Mbps down and 30 mbps upload i do get 5G but speeds was slower than the 4g+ so swiched back to ee oney down Full to 4G is my ping is higher than when I was on 5G my ping On 4G is from 30ms to 60ms But On 5G it was 20ms to 35ms
i’m sitting here in my home (New Zealand) I have the 13 Pro Max and currently have two bars of “5G” but managed to cop up 460Mbps with 45ms. Is this good? Using server closest to me, Spark NZ. Ookla Speed Test
In some cases, yes, you will notice a slight improvement in ping when going from 5G NSA to 5G SA. However, in a lot of cases, the ping will most likely only improve by a small amount.
Generally yes but it hard to achieve low latency overall tbh you need to have pretty good optimization of the network core and also the connections to the servers need to be optimal
I realize you are in the UK, but its not that different here in the US either. The only way we get 5g is going into the cities otherwise its 4g and in some cases there used to be even 3g.
I’m on Three UK and the 5G is great but it’s a shame that my phone swaps between 4G and 5G inconsistently
@T3CH I have an iPhone 12 so the chipset for the 5G has probably had time to improve now that the 13 and 14 is out.
@T3CH Don’t have 5G in my area but I have the Three 4G+ wifi with a MiMo antena and get 60-70 down which is perfect for me
I used to get problems with it on my Samsung a53 I know have the Samsung S24+ it allows connects up to 5G when not downloading after 10 seconds
@@archiehenderson7043iphone 12 has the x55 which is kinda outdated specially as now some carrier are aggregating NR bands which the x55 modem the iPhone 12 has doesn't have
I'm currently with Three and honestly I cannot wait until my contract ends with them so I can switch to EE, I had nothing but issues on 3, and speeds suck but not only that but barely anything works regardless 4G or 5G, even being close to a tower.
If there is anything that I regret, it must be coming to the UK to study abroad, because I am used to China's national coverage signal, in contrast, the signal of the UK is ten times worse than that of China, and with the weather, the signal disappears in stages. It can be seen from this that the UK is the poorest developed country in the world, so if I could do it over again, I would not go to the UK to study.
Lots of missing information here, that seperates 4g from 5g such as increase MiMo capibilities. Also Carrier Aggeration with 5g will be key to produce those higher speeds. Must of know MMwave will be a bust for rual areas and even some subs but. 5g will pave the way for reducing or even eliminating network congestion. Making everyones connections more stable and usable in the long run.
Great video as usual. Lucky to be in an situation where everywhere I travel on three I get a great 5G service and if not a great 4G service, currently sat in a massive steel frame LED lined roof and still pull 1200mbps from three 5G, even some spots of the new forest I’ve pulled 800mbps speeds using 5G, it really depends on your surround areas. Just remember if it’s looks like a 5G mass, it may not always been a 5G mass that’s emitting ur network’s frequencies, maybe this was the reason to why you were close to that one and pulling slow speeds yet going to the industrial park next to another you pulled even better. Then you may have been connected to the same mass but being further away it was slower and closer being faster etc etc. I work in a phone shop and we usually say if you spend 50/50 time in city to rural areas there’s no harm in getting a 5G device providing there’s no price increase over 4G, because when u do go to those built up areas it will help you more in terms of fighting the huge number of devices connected to the same mass and slow speeds even with high strong signal! I’ve always said 85% of the population will be perfectly suited with 4G speeds on a mobile phone but benefit from the high client allocation of 5G, I find that being the best improvement in terms of service! Having 5G is brilliant specially in city zones because it taking more traffic away from 4G which can also help that service, this is a common trend when new technology comes into the community. But don’t forget your phone will always switch between the two modes based on what you are doing and if the increase power consumption is worth it
I feel like this is somewhat misguided it will take a while for the networks to build out their 5G network. Same thing happened when 4g was new. They've already started this with vodafone committing to switch off 3g by the end of their year and the other providers doing it next year. The 3G spectrum will be refarmed and used to boost existing 4g and 5g connections. Also aside from Three the other providers don't currently have 100mhz worth of 5g spectrum but with the other providers getting rid of 3g it should help fill that gap.
Getting a 5g capable phone and contract will help future proof you.
Simple answer is Huawei 5G products are being removed from the UK in 2020 and still not fully removed the UK did not create fully functional 5G network across the country. so only core business area currently have 5G, if you work or live on those business area its worth getting 5G, if you dont best stick to 4G
I've got a 5g enabled phone but I don't think I've ever seen it connect since having it. Coverage seems none existent even in London!
What provider are you with?
@@lazarchamp1377 Vodafone
@@tomroguk that explains why because Vodafone and o2 are the worst when it comes to 5g coverage the best for coverage is ee but if you want fast speeds and good coverage for cheap three is the best overall
@@lazarchamp1377 thanks for the info. 4G will be fine for now!
This happens in most Europe, but in UK is even worse given it was sold as "more" and not "better" topped with the usual stupid-cost-cut as well (NSA and 4g co-existence). I would seriously start advertising and selling it as stable 5g (rock solid, get connection when you can't in crowded areas) and guarantee stable yet slower links. Not to mention the batteries suffer a lot (expecting the X75 if brings something AI new to the table).
It's the same here in the USA. 5G works great..sometimes. Most times it's absolute crap. 4G is great over here.
Some towers are specifically put up for certain Carriers, so the low speed could be coming from a different tower further away
I was with o2 and on 4g+ and got 5mps then went to 3 and got 5g and had 700 mps in the same location
Left 02 to move to three and don’t regret it at all! O2 has been so congested and wouldn’t load anything in City’s and towns.
I didn't change my phone just to get 5G it was just part of the phone when I got it.
The difference to my old 4G phone?
Bugger all!
Almost never use it , rarely see it near where I live and mostly see in London when I work there but then I also don’t have access to a charge and it just wipes out the battery on my phone so it generally spends it’s day with 5G disabled
Im on EE, its the only one with good enough coverage at my house, phone is an iPhone 14 and im on a 5GB 5G plan, I mainly use wifi at work and home so dont need a massive data plan. I had a look and EE are limited the speeds on my contract to 100mbps so it really makes no difference whether im on 5G on 4G the speeds are consistently the same.
ISP's be like: "'Rural'? Whats that?"
I'm still pissed about the 3G CDMA networks being axed tbh.
Cell tower are connected via wireless links most of the time to save huge amount of money. This way the operators dont need to run fiber to the tower. This way the spare money, but the interconnect is done via directional antennas wich is most of the time does not capable to deliver the speed that 4G or 5G can offer. If wee feed the cell tower with multiple 10gbps fiber links, theres basically no limiting factor. I experience the same in germany where cell towers are mostly connected via wireless and only bigger cities have fiber connection.
I get around 50-250Mbps where i live (depends on the time of the day) with the wirelessly connected cell towers and i measure 1.5-2Gbps in a bigger city nearby over 5G of course all the time.
Most urban locations have macros that are fed by fiber as it the best solution and a must for multi gig connections microwave links are mostly only used in rural areas or as backup in case fiber fails
Could you recommend a reliable WiFi to replace unreliable kcom in Beverley please
You seem to be really smart with internet so I want to see if I can get a response from you. My internet a few weeks ago out of nowhere basically stopped working. I still get my high speeds, but kicked out of any game servers within 3 minutes of playing on a console or a phone, and also streaming tv non stop buffers and eventually freezes the app. I have called my ISP daily about this issue and they are convinced there is nothing wrong. Any thoughts on what the issue could be or any trouble shooting I could be doing?
get a roooted 5g android phone and install network signal guru, should give a lot of details about your cellular such as band, carrier aggregation info, neighboring cells etc. should help with day to day measurements
yeah i use power saving mode and let me tell you the battery life is far better but in doing so i lose my 5G and instead my mobile just uses 4G as using 5G is very heavy on power consumption
Honest opinion is 4g network data for mobile phone on 2023 still good enough for basic use internet like social media and watching TV CZcams?
great video Alex explaining about 5g! it always makes me confuse when I'm out and using 5g it just drop out and go back to 4 or even 3g.
experienced the same issue!
Nice, do they have one that can take multiple sim cars?
o2 is the worst company in the uk for Mobile data, I couldn't load a basic webpage in 90% of Cardiff central, apparently it is because they have sold off to three, Tesco and so on
5g makes 4g slower.4g in phone with 5g LTE is slower than in phone that doesnt have 5g support. I think if some phones have 5g support... the apps in this phone is not connecting to 4g!
How did you find out who owns what tower? I have one yards away from my house but can’t find out what network it belongs to
they usually rent land from the landowner, you should be able to find the landowner pretty easily
I have Ee sim With a Outdoor Antenna on 4g+ with full bars I get 300Mbps Download and 65Mbps Upload at peak times it go down to 150Mbps down and 30 mbps upload i do get 5G but speeds was slower than the 4g+ so swiched back to ee oney down Full to 4G is my ping is higher than when I was on 5G my ping On 4G is from 30ms to 60ms But On 5G it was 20ms to 35ms
That’s crazy speed for 4G!
i’m sitting here in my home (New Zealand) I have the 13 Pro Max and currently have two bars of “5G” but managed to cop up 460Mbps with 45ms.
Is this good?
Using server closest to me, Spark NZ. Ookla Speed Test
Luckily I live near the CBD and 5G support is free with my service provider.
Here 5G is great but the 50% price increase is not worth it to switch on main phone.
Mine often says 5G UC and it sux ass
I call 5g "fake gee" because most of the time its basically the same as 4g speeds
Will 5G standalone have lower latency than 4G LTE or I need mmwave?
In some cases, yes, you will notice a slight improvement in ping when going from 5G NSA to 5G SA. However, in a lot of cases, the ping will most likely only improve by a small amount.
Generally yes but it hard to achieve low latency overall tbh you need to have pretty good optimization of the network core and also the connections to the servers need to be optimal
Nice one mate as always. 🔥
Lots of talking but not a lot of actually explaining what the issues are
Thanks guys.
mmwave can be used as a weapon, something to think about
The mobile signal in our town has got worse... Almost as if they're deliberately attempting to restrict usage...
nah its just your tinfoil hat thats slowing it down
Agree with 5G not that great if they can push it out soon as long we got long time for 5G
I hope they switch the fn 5g off where I live it’s shite. 100 Meg is plenty for anyone on a mobile device.
5G apparatus should be at every home.
I think that here in the US the 5G is more broadly reliable and speedy. But never did I say 100% of the time 😉
Alex, love the content. If you want more info on how LTE & 5G works and is deployed, I’m happy to help.
Well said mate
bro's looking swole af 😅
My phone has 5G, but im never anywhere with it lol + 4G is fast enough for me
Merci from Canada
So.. basically it's a scam?
I realize you are in the UK, but its not that different here in the US either. The only way we get 5g is going into the cities otherwise its 4g and in some cases there used to be even 3g.
I wish he brought a gaming laptop to see what gaming is like with that near 1gb connection.
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