ALL The Refit Enterprise Features Explained! CG Model Breakdown
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- The refit Enterprise first appeared in Star Trek the Motion Picture, and it remains a fan favorite because of all of its meticulous detail Every piece ACTUALLY HAS A FUNCTION!!! Let's break it down!
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I love this version of the Constitution, and after watching this video, I was salivating. To me, this was the pinnacle of Starfleet ship design. It's sleek and elegant and wasn't overly complicated in its design. Thank you for going into a deep analysis breakdown of what the Refit offered to both Starfleet and to Star Trek as a whole.
Next to the TOS Enterprise, the refit is by far the favorite on my list of Starfleet starship designs.
What the Enterprise should've looked like right from the beginning.
"Mr. Scott's Guide To The Enterprise" provides more details and interior information, too.
@@kellyjeaularson5786 Yeah, I've got a copy lying around.
I like the fact that it doesn't have a "warp core". Always hated that.
The refit is my favorite. I was just around 9 when TMP came out. I was mesmerized. The shuttle scene made me fall in love.
I was a few years older. You couldn't tell me the Klingons had photons in their noses! 13 year olds are smarter than that!
I wish they had built the full-size model of the refit Enterprise in Las Vegas like they had planned.
@@tsugamblerthat would have given me a reason to want to go to Vegas
I was 8, and upset because The Black Hole was playing on the other screen and I wanted to see it instead. :P
@scotty68 Same here except I was 10… in fact… I think I can admit this… we’re all very likely similarly afflicted… so no shame in confessing that seeing this movie opening weekend the Enterprise dry dock reveal scene… was a genuine nerdgasm… my very first !… and on all levels… emotional and physical ! LOL
Andrew Probert is a designing genius.This and the Madkoifish Enterprises are my favourites.
The Re-fit Enterprise is the most beautiful of all starships. Watching her on full screen made her look real.
@ chrischeshire5528 YES ! I cannot agree more ! I have said to so many people who weee not fortunate enough to see Star Trek: TMP, TWOK and TSFS that seeing this ship, the amazing, gorgeous, sublime Enterprise refit on the big screen adds a crucial and life affirming dimension to it ! Just sitting there in the dark… music swelling ! Looking UP at that beautiful starship model in it’s incredible detail on a 50 feet wide screen ! IT… JUST… LOOKS … REAL !
I'd love to see a break down of the Miranda and Excelsior classes like this. Great Video.
The lower navigation lights on the saucer section should be red on the left (port) and green on the right (starboard). This allows someone on an approaching vessel to visually identify which end of a ship is facing them, the bow or the stern. In TOS, it was the top saucer lights that had the red/green navigational lights. Also, because of image flipping, in some scenes you may see green and red on the opposite sides.
Quite right they should be, I don't think they ever were on the TMP model, but I am inclined to add them in future vids somewhere along with the formation lights.
@@resurrectedstarships I believe you're correct. There is a breakdown of the various lights and how they changed through Trek the site ex-astris-scientia. I think they first appear in TWOK.
They were in The Motion Picture on the sides of the saucer, but I didn't see them anywhere else.
The "red = port, green = starboard" lighting scheme only really makes sense on the ocean or in atmospheric flight where all craft are naturally going to be in the same orientation with respect to gravity. In space it is not as useful because ships could be in any orientation relative to each other in 3 dimensions. On the ocean you could tell whether a ship was facing towards you or away from you by looking at the red and green navigation lights. In space, not so much - a ship you were looking at could be vertically inverted relative to the ship you were looking from, and if you were thinking in a marine context, you might think the ship was facing towards you when actually it wasn't. To be sure, you would actually need 4 different coloured lights on every ship - the traditional red and green for port and starboard, and then perhaps blue and yellow at the highest and lowest points on the hull. In 3 dimensional space, having just the red and green on either side of the ship is not enough unless every ship has its top and bottom facing the same direction (like they would be for ocean-going craft), but there is no way to know if that is the case without additional indicator lights.
@@lloydevans2900 It makes sense for classic Trek space battles. They tended to depict them as great ocean going vessels. Modern Trek, it's less relevant.
The idea of night vision making edge or formation lighting obsolete is interesting. In real life, on military aircraft, there are light strips (formation lights/strips) that have a low lighting mode which specifically facilitates better viewing with NODS. Depending on the aircraft, the strips are located much in the way they are on the Refit.
Thanks for making this. I always wondered about some of those random objects protruding from the hull and just assumed their inclusion was just a form of "kit bashing" just to give the ship more detail. But actually, a lot of the stuff here seems to also be the result of function rather than just that it "looked cool". The refit is my favorite Star Trek vessel, and it's sad that TMP seems to be the one film that actually cares about what everything is or does. TMP was the only time we saw the low power level amber glow of the deflector dish (not including the reused footage of tWoK).
That’s all it is.
Their functions are “retconned”.
@@calvinnickel9995 Star Trek has been retconned so may times, I want to vomit thinking of the next incarnation. Some of the original ideas were the best, while others, not so much. The rest becomes defined by the lowest common denominator.
And the way they cleared the spacedock. Just perfectly matched, everything makes senses.
Clear mooring, lighten the navigation lights to warn all ship and crew nearby that you're ready to go. Then gently pushing yourself out of spacedock by RCS thruster, coasting, and warning up the deflector in low power mode. Then, when you're far enough away from spacedock so that your shiny blimy fusion flames from the impulse nozzle won't melt the entire spacedock, ignited the impulse drive, and switching the deflector to main power. The ship suddenly came to life, and roaring into the darkness of space with dazzling flames of fusion plasma.
"Star Trek is not a sci-fi, it's a documentary of future."
Correct, there should also be a white lite on the stern and another one on the highest point (masthead). The lights should not be visible at certain angle past the ship's beam, but that's more of a maritime thing than aviation.
What a thorough, and interesting, study of the greatest ship in sci-fi history. Nicely done. She looks wonderful in this video.
I was hoping to win that billion dollar Powerball jackpot a couple years back, pool together with some other rich guys, and build a full scale model near a busy highway, turn it into a hotel casino resort... and with some additional supports under it to deal with gravity and wind(I'd hire some world class engineers, and a physicist) hope it doesn't fall over during a storm and kill a thousand people. Just imagine driving down I-80 coming around a bend up a slight hill, and seeing it suddenly pop up over the treeline in from of you, after having only catching a glimpse of it from a distance a couple miles earlier. Especially at night, all lit up... people would probably complain about getting blinded by the navigational deflector (hmm... better put a variable dimmer switch on it)
Yeah, the weight figures would be completely impossible to deal with, it might sink into the ground and then tip over...but that's what my team would figure out before even starting. Ground pressure, weight distribution, and wind resistance (coating it in Teflon might reduce the latter). I mean, it's gonna take a bunch of stainless steel columns underneath it(attached to all parts, primary, secondary hulls And the warp nacelles-which would hurt aesthetics a bit, but no way would it be possible without), spread out at very specific angles, and they go deep into huge concrete reinforced blocks 40 meters into the ground (after a survey to check for ground density and bedrock) it would basically be like building the Golden Gate Bridge...
It would basically be like the Enterprise, if it was lifted by several cut up short St. Louis Arches, with the bottom of the lower hull being about only 20 meters above ground.... can't have it propped up too high. Someone would probably try to land a single engine Cesna on the saucer 😂
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If you hide a parking garage underground beneath the super structure of the Enterprise , then you would have a strong base for the supports to prop up the Enterprise Hotel. That would be cool to round a corner, and cone over a hill to see that beauty all lit up at night. It would be like Kirk’s tour of the refit Enterprise in the Motion Picture. 👍🏻
@@Vincent-396 hahah! Funny thing, I had thought of digging out an area and doing just that... but then, it would lack the general public display and awe. Edit: but this would negate the issue of wind resistance, tornadoes and storms, and, ground pressure considerably....the saucer would essentially be leveled with the ground. It would still be an extraordinary feat of engineering, at any rate.
Edit: wish I had Scotty's formula for transparent aluminum. But who knows? I might be the guy who invented it!
Edit edit: as for harm against local ecology, an abandoned gravel quarry would make a headstart on the volume needed without significant damage to wildlife. 😉
My Enterprise. I saw her at the age of 4 when I watched the longer VHS cut of The Motion Picture. This is a starship fit for a deep space explorer, through and through.
You did a beautiful job, man. Seriously. This video is amazing, and I love it.
I seen that you modeled them 3:50 is the shot, but you didn't point out the two dorsal phaser emitters above the shuttlebay. Beautiful model by the way.
Fantastic! The refit is my favorite Ship in all media. Well done!
Another triumphant video! The detail and dedication to your art is outstanding!
This video is ofcourse imperfect compared to my vision - BUUUT it is only the beginning of our long relationship with this Enterprise; yall nerd out in the comments please! :) And YES I am now aware of the incorrect position of the reg numbers on the top of the saucer. :)
Yeah how Impulse drive is 'supposed to work' will break your brain for sure, though in a strange way it is kinda similar to Star Wars sublight engines in space in a few ways.
I would speculate (judging by their role on the Star Trek 2009 Enterprise) that the Nacelle fins are real-space restoration fins... who's function is the control of the ships exit speed when leaving Warp Drive. This is how the ship can go to warp from rest and exit at cruise or enter at impulse cruise speeds and exit to a near stop.
But I noticed in TNG they often come out of warp then stop and rarely stop dead, which to be honest sounds safer most of the time than a full stop (which does seems possible mind).
Oh and speaking of breaking your brain reading up on Hawking Radiation and how that interacts with Slipstream and Transwarp has the same effect.
I just hope they don't let Strange New Worlds make up to much more crazy stuff they were already messing with Dilithium as it is in Kirtzman Trek unfortunately so they could get some extra sci fi tropes out of it.
Did they ever come up with an explanation as to why Kirk's pod attached at the torpedo bay hatch, but he walked out on the cargo bay hatch? Does the hatch surrounds contain transporter technology, perhaps?
I still have the engineering book for the ship, supposedly Scotty's work. Which says that there are fusion reactors either side of the impulse apertures that power them. But while the warp drive can borrow power from the impulse it's not the other way around, they used two different sorts of fuel. Pumping warp plasma through an impulse drive is guaranteed to blow the ar*e off the saucer.
If I'm wrong here on any one of these points, I'm sure people in the comments will not be shy about telling me!
@@Cauin450 I think you have it backwards. In TMP when the pod docks to the Engineering section, Kirk and Scotty do disembark to the cargo section. But in TWOK, the pod is shown docking to the same engineering port but the crew disembark to the torpedo bay deck.
Of course, the reason was simple budget. It was cheaper to recycle the existing TMP docking footage than make a new sequence of a near identical action. Although, there may have been plans at one point to do a docking shot, as there was a model of the interconnecting dorsal and torpedo deck made which was used to provide the phaser damage shots.
Flux chiller and baffle plate are components of the B-17 engine's super charger, classified top secret during WW2.
Every time I watch your work, I get inspired to try and figure out Blender better. You do good things here, and I'm always excited whenever a new video drops.
One of the most beautiful starships in sci-fi history
I always loved the Constitution Class. It wasn't fancy or huge compared to the other ships after nor was it tiny either. It wasn't designed to carry crew families. It was built for it's primary purpose. Exploration, patrolling, diplomacy. It didn't house a lot, but enough to do long distance travel and built well to take any punishment thrown at it. :) When I play STO, this is my go to. ^_^
Great job with this rendering. Love the details. :)
I absolutely love this channel. Honest to goodness, everything about it is relaxing to me! (And interesting of course.)
I love these videos from this and other creators. This 3D model is beautiful and what is even better,.... I learned something new here.
I've always considered myself fairly educated in starship design but I never realized that the ship ran z deflector strip around the saucer section!
Great video as always.
Absolutely fantastic video! And your 3D model is spot on! Loved it! This is certainly my favorite starship hands down!
This is an amazing presentation, one of the best of its type I have seen.
Would love where you would do other ships.
Seriously, amazing job
also there is a pod docking port on the saucers edge, the main computer core connects to the lower sensor the saucer and goes right up to below the bridge. The warp core (much like later designs) runs straight up the dorsal spine connecting to the impulse deflection crystal with a conduit heading back toward the nacelle pylons fuel storage is in the lower deck of the engineering section at the base of the warp core (as seen in ST II WofK.....at least they had a proper engineering and not a brewery!! Although I am sure Mr Scott had a still set up somewhere!!) I have a really nice poster from the AMT Star Trek V version of the 1701A kit that I turned into a Frigate (after dropping it during construction!) funnily enough I called it USS Discovery NCC-2115 after the ship from 2001 a Space Odyssey this was back in about 1987!! It is still hanging in formation with 1701 at my Dad's place facing off against 2 K'tinga class ( 1 built in 1986(ish) the other when ST6 came out)
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You forgot the two Aft firing phaser banks located on top of the Shuttle bay. Even the original Enterprise has always had an aft firing capability.
@@TheJTcreate its there just unlabeled.
Never underestimate the usefulness of the Mark I Eyeball. Good Lord I'm including that in my common parlance when telling people to just look.
Really great video on all the bits and bobs on the Refit! I'm with the crowd on this one, when I think the Enterprise, THIS is the ship I think of. Not even the post-Voyage Home one, I loved the quarters designs for Kirk and other Officers to be much more inviting than what you saw later on. A half way point between the very comfortable lived in style of the Galaxy class and the more spartan TOS or Undiscovered Country style.
Nice! Great work. Thanks for making this. The refit will always be my favorite Enterprise!
This is, in my view, the finest ship Starfleet ever produced. The design is just beautiful.
Quality ALWAYS beat quantity your videos are a treat whenever they appear
Protip: there are actually 7 shuttle pod docking ports.
The first indication is when Kirk arrives: the announcer states "Shuttle pod available at Cargo 6."
The 2 'missing' ports are on the underside of the saucer: spock and later Kirk use them while inside Vger.
#1 behind the bridge
2&3: ventral saucer behind protective doors
4&5: torpedo bay
6&7: Cargo Bay
But are they docking ports or simply re-used doors from the cargo bay set? For such a brief shot it might have been just that. Mind, I think maybe that space might just be big enough to actually hold a shuttle pod which would be interesting.
Shuttle pods are weird. By all indications the only hatch is opened by the ship it’s docked to. There are emergency hatches, think as an elevator, but otherwise, that’s it. I would imagine that Probert thought that if a pod docked with a ‘dead’ ship they could tap the pod power to operate the door mechanism (hence the various connectors that mate pod to ship.)
The shuttle pod is kinda goofy, but it’s better than the original concept of actually detaching an entire ‘room’ from the orbital office complex for the grand tour. 😁
Aside, there are those that complain that the tour of the Enterprise was ‘boring’ and ‘a waste of time’ and other foolish things. For a Trek fan that only a few years previous to the release of ST:TMP felt that there was no hope for any kind of Trek revival, that scene was a kind of vindication. We were all Kirk, seeing his true love, returning home.
Those aren’t tears. It’s raining or something. 😁
Beautiful model well done. This has always been my favourite ship. Excellent video. 🖖
Great job on the 3D model render! Awesome presentation!
Beautiful, and after going through the details, which were many, the outtakes provides some good humor at the end, hope you had a nice weekend. For me it was/is to hot, well don´t like heat that much, need some cold comfort of space.
I see the refit as a classical design of what would become a main-stay of traditional iconic Star Ship Enterprise. The design is minimally what logically follows an upgraded avant guard style of TOS, and builds technology into the same configuration, giving it a believable and pleasing aesthetic which has not been matched in any other design. It looks, feels and embodies something which is nautical and futuristic.
GORGEOUS model, and useful commentary. Thank you!!
This is great, thank you. These videos you've made have really reawakened the trekkie in me :-)
Fantastic Vid!
Thank You!
The “Connie” is one the most beautiful things ever designed.
Thanks for all your effort.
😎👍❤
I like the extra effort with the red pointers casting reflections on the hull. Absolutely did not need to do that but you did anyway.
Great Video!!! Thank-You For Your Time And Dedication!
This is great! I think there's a tractor beam emitter in the sloped section under the shuttle bay.
Thank you for your hard work. The Enterprise is a beauty.
This is a beautiful model. Well done. And great video!
I was to introduced to Star Trek via the original movies. I always thought the refit Enterprise felt more real than any of the others. It felt as real to me as the NASA space shuttle. These little details explain why that is. Because it was so tangible, you believed in a future like the one we were shown in the films.
Thank you so much for taking the time to research this information and explain it so well! I have always been a huge fan of the Constitution Class Refit and I love to see re-created with CG.
It looks fantastic! Great work!
While not my favorite design of the Enterprise as I have very fond memories of the TOS series this model and breakdown was amazing. Truly great not only explaining the techno babble but the real world science such as the various energy based shielding I once read the tech behind deflector shields and it was plasma based to repel cosmic bodies like asteroids and other debris. All in all I look forward to seeing this amazing design popup in future videos.
The Refit Constitution is the single most elegant and majestic space ship in all of science fiction!
Her only rival is the pre-refit TOS Connie. In context of the story, NCC-1701 received an extensive refit
shortly after Kirk took command. The nacelle spikes weren't actually removed; those were brand new
updated engines. Impulse also replaced. Lots of other new systems as well.
FANTASTIC VIDEO! Any chance of doing an "INSIDE" version of the Enterprise Refit?
The Impulse drive is capable of 0.8 light speed. This is confirmed by Decker's line in TMP of the ship being at "Warp .8" after the Enterprise is freed from the artificial wormhole. It could be argued that 0.9 is possible. Want more? The tiny rectangular object underneath the shuttle bay is a tractor beam emitter. And unlike it's ToS version, the refit has an aft phaser bank above the shuttle bay.
The aft phaser is mentioned directly in the episode, "Arena".
Great tribute and explanation video. The most beautiful starship every seen on the screen. Robert Abel & Associates did the majority of the redesign of the warp nacelles, before being fired by Paramount.
A feature that almost everyone misses: Maneuvering thrusters.
There are four long rectangular depressions on the top of the secondary hull, facing aft, and four shorter ones on the front cap of the secondary hull, to the left and right of the torpedo tubes. These are maneuvering thrusters, which provide low sublight propulsion when the ship is moving in orbit, or docking, or rendezvousing with other ships or space stations. They provide the thrust forward or aft, and the reaction control thrusters (RCS) provide attitude changes (i.e. steering).
These are used most prominently in Star Trek The Motion Picture, when Enterprise leaves the drydock and moves around in Earth orbit, before the impulse drive is engaged and the ship moves forward at a high fraction of light speed. They are also mentioned in Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country, when Kirk asks for one-quarter impulse to leave Spacedock, and Valeris reminds him that regs specify thrusters only.
The thrusters don't light up, so they're not the most visually interesting feature of the ship, but they are a third complete propulsion system, after the warp and impulse drives, and a very important component of the ship's operations.
I've always assumed that they were of the same thrust output as the RCS thrusters, but only orientated to give axial thrust as opposed to the multi-directional RCS thruster mounts. There is one 3D animation modeler that has done the ST2 "Leaving Space dock" scene and included RCS thruster bursts, but the name of the channel escapes me.
Well done mate. Simply excellent!
Years ago there was a book or poster called Scotty's reference (or something) of the Enterprise, refit of course and had a lot of these references. Also, there was a book called Starfleet Prototype, I believe, that had a bunch more TMP era starship designs.
I had no idea the Enterprise refit had an arboretum! I thought I knew everything about this ship. I saw all of the movies in the theaters. That’s how old I am haha. Great video!
Great video thanks for posting!
Great video and modeling animation! Question: why did you put some lights in around the nacelles’ first stage flux constriction area?
The first time I ever noticed the concave underside of the saucer, was from the cover of an issue of Nintendo Power, way back in the day. It took my child brain some time to come to grips with that, but I grew to love it. Andrew Probert is a legend. Every curve, line, angle and contour on that ship is flawless. There is simply nothing that can be improved upon. Another thing that makes it unique, is the white hull, which stands in contrast to all the gray ships that preceded and proceeded it. The pearlescent paint of the model was really only ever visible in The Motion Picture, and was absolutely gorgeous.
Excellent model, and excellent vid! 🖖😀
The refit Enterprise has consistently been my favorite starship design in the Star Trek Universe, but there can always be room for improvements, even with this design. For me, there were three big problems. 1) Having a shuttle docking right behind the main control area of the ship might not be the best idea if someone confuses the gas pedal with the brake! 2) Putting the main engines at the end of flimsy pylons might induce torsional forces that would impact engine efficiency/warp bubble structure, where a more rigid or shorter structure would reduce those forces. 3) The neck between the two hulls, while elegant, doesn't make much sense structurally...especially when there is a weapons platform, the main transportation tube AND the main propulsion reactor in the same place and highly susceptible to damage. I know there's computer control and gravity manipulation to explain away these problems, but if you don't have these problems to begin with, you don't need anything to compensate for them later!
In spite of these flaws that an engineer would have issues with, the artist of the ship didn't have to concern himself about any details on how the ship works. His job was to make a ship for a movie. His creation has since motivated countless people to fill in the details, provide improvements, and inspire artistic pursuits, careers, and even real-life products...and create the seed for Star Trek to continue to its many variations TMP spawned since 1979. The refit Enterprise certainly leaves a lasting legacy that many other ships struggle to match.
@@davidkaminski615 All excellent points! I think if it were designed with pure practicality in mind, it would look much like the Battlestar Galactica. So say we all! 🖖😀
back in the 90's, our old books were suggesting the reason the impulse dome was inline with the warp core was because it fed both the warp core and the impulse fusion reactor. That it conditioned deuterium for both. The next gen tech manual (that the writers used) said deuterium was stored as slush, and had to be preheated before injection. This makes sense.
Some other sources suggest the dome is an orb, the actual fusion reactor itself
nice!!! just got the eaglemoss model yesterday!
Love it! Minor point: The registry number needs to shift one 'row' closer towards the bridge.
Omg, you're right...I didn't even notice until reading this comment. Dude should ❤ your comment, but she still looks great though, and the nice thing about CG models, you don't have to painstakingly tear off the decals and replace them and repaint any spots that peeled up.
Great work. I love the Refit and happy to see it on the channel.
Some critique of details.
1. You have the upper primary hull registry number in the wrong place. You have it on the third ring from the edge of the primary hull. It should be on the fourth ring from the edge.
2. It doesn't look like you have the registry and ship name aft of the officer's observation deck.
3. It looks like there's no markings to either side of the main gangway docking ports on the port and starboard edge of the primary hull.
4. You're lacking the ship name positioned forward of the interconnecting dorsal and aft of the ventral sensor dome/light array.
5. The forward flat leading edge surface of the side fins on the nacelles are sticking out a bit too far from the main nacelle. I think that distance should be somewhere closer to half that amount. It isn't a smooth join from the nacelle to the fin, but it is smoother than what you've got there.
And a couple I'm not sure about.
A. I can't tell if you got the phaser turrets above the shuttlebay. I see some detail there that might be them, but you didn't point them out even though you did point out the phaser banks at the base of the engineering hull.
B. You have the "Magnatomic Amplification Crystals" on top of the warp nacelles lit up blue. This seems to be a fairly common thing modern 3D modelers of the Refit Enterprise do, but I can't recall that feature ever lighting up on the photographic miniature during the movies. The only shot I could think of was a single shot in TMP where the Enterprise is in the wormhole, and there is a little spot where it might be one of these lit up. It is NOT lit up in the Director's Edition top view as the Enterprise blows up the asteroid with a photon. So, I don't know. Can anyone point me to a moment in the films where this feature was clearly lit up?
My only comment about the description elements provided in this video is a question about the the source of the different shades of plating of the hull being the deflector grid. As far as I know, the different shaded plating is not explained, but the grid pattern (controversial on the original Connie, but canonized on the Refit) is said to be the deflector grid. Although the only source I know for that is Mr Scott's Guide to the Enterprise.
Regardless, despite it seeming like I'm picking your work apart, I loved the video. If the differences I've noticed are just artistic license, then it's all cool. I'd say the only serious one is that placement of the upper registry number on the saucer, as that one just jumps out and looks odd to someone like myself.
Otherwise, I'm looking forward to seeing this beauty dance with some Romulan Winged Defenders!
Hello!
1 - yeh you're right, I'v only noticed recently, I may have followed a bad reference image.
2 - its there, no clear view of it on this video.
3 - are you referring to the square hatches? It didnt ever occur to me there would be anything there. What is there?
4 - mmm you may have got me there but I am starting to think some signage was added that wasn't there in the TMP movie.
5 - I will have another look at the nacelles - the geometry of the nacelles comes from some older work of mine.
A . phaser turrets above shuttle bay - check
B - IDK...looks cool, but I might be changing or tamping down that blue glow there...and no I wasn't referring to the 'aztec' hull plates, I was referring to the lines/grooves - that's shield grid.
Most of these are fixable!
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#3 = The square gangway hatch, yes. I have to correct myself. It seems there's only a gangway hatch on the port side, not both sides, so I partially misspoke. But the port side gangway hatch is where the gangway from drydock attaches in TMP. In the shots you can see it says Starship USS Enterprise to the left and United Federation of Planets to the right of the gangway hatch.
#4 = It's there in TMP. There's a good shot of it as Kirk and Scotty approach in the pod. I tend to remember it because there was a decal for it in the old AMT kit, and I hadn't ever noticed it before that decal. Now I can't ever forget it. :D
Thanks for the answer to my comments. I hope I nerded out enough!
The central dish is, in this era, a communications dish. The three navigational deflectors are positioned around it. The Miranda class Reliant has those same three navigational deflectors (which is why the Reliant was able to go at warp without a dish). It wasn't until the TNG era that these components were all combined into the "deflector dish." You've erroneously identified the navigational deflectors as "space energy attraction sensors."
Hmmm… can you cite any documentation from that time ? I am referring from the 1987 “Mr.Scott’s Guide to the Enterprise” by Shane Johnson which was based on designs, documentation from Andrew Probert and producers from Paramount, which refer to the Main Navigational Deflector; and the 1975 “Star Trek Blueprints” by Franz Joseph referred to the dish of the Constitution class Enterprise’s dish as the Main Sensor and Navigational Deflector and was endorsed by Gene Roddenberry and excerpts from these Franz Joseph plans were heavily referenced for the first three Star Trek films.
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I always wanted that vent on the back of the neck to be an aft facing torpedo tube. Perhaps shuttered most of the time and not as fully featured as the main tubes. It would also be handy for dropping probes behind the ship while at warp, perhaps analyzing one of those FTL anomalies that are so common.
Also, a war fit version of the ship could have a full sized aft facing dual mount like the Miranda class.
Alot of starship designs look like style over function and yet manage to look plain ugly. This ship is just about perfect, looks fantastic from every angle. Yet for something that is pure Science Fiction has a "real world" quality to it. For a design from the 1970's it still looks futuristic....its a genuinely brilliant Starship.
Great work !
Very informative Thank You (:
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done indeed and very nicely well executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form provided, And the Refit like the Original Constitution class has always been one of my all time favorite designs as well as the one in SNW indeed👌.
Absolutely my favorite version of this iconic ship! Maybe a show down with a Romulan V30 is in order….Please
First off...great video, and thank you for uploading it! Secondly, if I was to comment or add on a little about this beautiful ship model's details, it would take as long as the video itself to read. 😂
I had a plastic model kit when I was a kid(most people didn't have the means for CG models in 1989) I never quite completed(the warp pylons kept breaking off the hull) 😭 and I never even got it painted or all the decals on. However, I remember in the instructions it listed quite a few of the technical details you mentioned that some might just pass off as not really having a function.
Even sadder, the model was half melted in a house fire years ago, so no chance of ever finishing it now. 😢
It's no wonder Starfleet ships explode all the time, all those plasma conduits running through the walls to power the various force fields/shields(I guess conventional armor is obsolete in the 23rd century-unless it's an alien alloy for plot complication). I guess that explains the console rocks, and maybe how some of the self destruct works, like in Star Trek 3, the front of the saucer just explodes(instead of the warp core overloading and the ship going up like a sun....destroying everything witin a parsec, but I digress).
But yeah, I've already said too much and haven't gotten to just how totally awesome the refit Connie was, she was like my baby.
Edit: It's too bad they never wrote a plot to use the ventral mounted phasers or the saucer section detatch(funny, I don't remember seeing their outlines for the landing feet in the tmp refit, only in the tos Enterprise, maybe I need to look closer?)
You can clearly see the landing pads and cargo doors on the underside of the saucer in TMP leaving spacedock scene.
Great vid! I am curious, where did you find the info that the refit saucer could detach? This is the first I have heard of that and am interested to learn more.
You can find original artwork about the ideas for the Separation Plane, or band, around the top of the neck.
We never got to see the main gangway hatch used on the Constitution Refit Class Enterprise the only docking ports we saw used was the one on the port side of the secondary hull and the one on the port side torpedo bay and the one on the backside of the main bridge when Spock came aboard.
Great Model and video! Is there aft phasers and photon torpedoes? Thank you for the great work you do in all these videos1🏆🏅💯🖖🎉🎊
The Refit has phaser turrets above the shuttlebay which can fire aft dorsal. She lacks any rear torpedo launchers in her screen appearances. The FASA RPG posited the idea that the Mk III refit added a single aft torpedo launcher, presumably at the rear end of the existing torpedo deck, and other adaptations often assumed she had a rear photorp launcher even though there was no support for that on the actual model.
@@gabrielvampyre Thank you! I remember seeing it in the Mr. Scott's Guide to The Enterprise! I remember phasers. I couldn't remember the photons.👍💯
This is a great, informative, video of what I think of as the queen of Starships. Your info. is consistent with what I've read in books like "Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise", and others. Well done!
My only correction is that the large "NCC-1701" designation on the upper saucer is NOT in the right spot. It should be one row up, one the third concentric grid circle from the center where the A,B,C, decks/ Bridge area is. Otherwise, everything else is perfect! 💖🖖😉
I don’t know, you make a compelling case but the original Enterprise owns my heart!
great job! one suggestion is that while you are talking about a certain place on the ship, the name of it could blink or be another color to keep us focused on where you are talking about.
Awesome video and amazing ship model. This is the best Enterprise.
Yup that is by far my absolute favorite ship in star trek, when I first saw the reveal in the movie I was blown away!
Great model, I can't wait to see what you do with it.
The only things I would comment is the nub on the back under the shuttle bay, which is sometimes listed as the tractor beam for the shuttle bay, or a aft phaser bank (there's also two on either side of the "spine" of the ship that could be phaser banks as well, with a single ball turret each). Additionally, the main Rec Deck is located at the back of the bridge superstructure. Note the three large windows? You can see them with armored rolldown paneling from the inside when Kirk gives the speech. If you look at (I believe) the Polar Lights Refit Enterprise model, there is an insert where you can actually see the details inside the windows. The Officer's Lounge is actually the two rows of windows on the back half of the saucer. In the corrected Star Trek: The Motion Picture, you can actually see the warp nacelles through one of the rounded rectangular windows. In Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, this deck is used again, but the VFX team inexplicably made a bunch of forward facing graphics for Kirk and Co. to react to, even though there are no such windows on the model.
WOW ! Loved this video and you did an amazing design and render of the refit Enterprise !
As for the explanation of the Space-Energy/Matter Sink, Magnatomic Amplification Crystal, First Stage Flux Constriction and Magnetomic Flux Chiller, I’d like to offer an explanation based on some cannon info and some plausible speculation on my part.
The nacelle based warp drive of starfleet ships uses a Matter/Antimatter Reaction. Well diagrams show storage pods for antimatter, magnetic storage of antimatter as any normal matter the antimatter would come into contact with would instantly annihilate. But since hydrogen in the universe is ubiquitous and even in vacuum exist in quantity and density of about 40 atoms per cubic meter. Not a lot but if you are moving through it fast enough and using the “Bussard Ramscoops” of the Space-Energy/Matter Sink, which uses a massive magnetic field to funnel that near vacuum hydrogen into your MARA system so your ship only has to carry the anti hydrogen. Now I say anti hydrogen because it is a single positron like normal hydrogen is a single proton… no neutrons needed to hold a hydrogen/anti hydrogen nuclei together and it is heavy neutrons moving at relativistic speed that makes ionizing radiation. So using hydrogen/anti hydrogen means no radiation and less radiation shielding !
Now the first stage flux chiller acts like compressor blades of a real life jet engine. In Star Trek it’s probably magnetic fields that do that constriction. The magnetic flux chiller… I don’t know… uses another magnetic field system to expose the condensed scooped hydrogen from a hot plasma that would be induced when a starships Bussard Ramscoop operating at warp speed compresses that vacuum hydrogen. Then this massive amount of hydrogen is directed down the nacelle pylons to the rear of the engineering deck’s horizontal intermix chamber to mix with the antimatter in the vertical intermix chamber and the resultant super high energy plasma created in the Matter/Antimatter Reaction is diverted up the vertical intermix system to the impulse engine and it’s impulse deflection crystal and fusion reactors and rearward through the system back up the nacelle pylons to the warp nacelles proper where the warp field that envelops the ship is created. The Emergency Flush Vents are just that, able to either flush excess incoming hydrogen or to vent warp plasma in emergencies.
Again, using documented diagrams and descriptions from Mr.Scott’s Guide to the Enterprise and other resources from online to the Star Trek Encyclopedia and TNG technical manuals and some educated speculation this is what I think is a plausible technobabble explanation for the labelled features of the engineering deck and warp nacelles and pylons of the Enterprise.
Very well done. Subbed.
i think this bulge under the Shuttle Bay Door is the Tractor beam Projector to help with ILS or Cargo moving and something similar
I love the refit Connie, it strikes the perfect balance between curves and hard edges, I love the nacelle design, the way the nacelle pylons sweep back. I also feel that the Countach is the prettiest Lamborghini.
Beautiful! Needs the registry at the rear outboard of the nacelles and I'll call it good ;)
Here’s a suggestion for an upcoming video. What does Star Fleet do with the planets and animals that live and grow in the botanicals decks and other such facilities on star ships when that ship is being decommissioned? What do they do with the marine life in the many aquariums on decommissioned ships? Does Star Fleet have a team or agency that takes care of all of this? Or does it all just get flushed out into space?
Very interesting. Thank you.
When i was a kid in the 80s my parents brought me home full size labeled orthos of the refit from a printing trade show and i memorized every inch of that ship. The greatest.
If you read the original Technical Manual for the Constitution Refit, you'll know that there are at least 7 shuttle pod docking ports. The five you mentioned, plus at least 2 more recessed into the ventral side of the saucer section hidden behind doors that follow the contour of the outer hull.
Something I've always found concerning about the Deflect Dish concept. It's a great idea, the faster you go even small objects can cause catastrophic damage to the ship, thing is, all these ships zipping about in space means there is a ton of debris that is flying through space and some of that may very well be on its merry way towards an inhabited planet. Going to suck when an asteroid wipes out your species because the Enterprise needed to get to Khitomer on time.
well done! beautifully made model..
Thank you, Andy Probert!
I always had heard those bands around the primary hull circumference (above and between the portholes) were sensor bands. If I remember correctly, that's what the book Mr Scott's Guide To The Enterprise referred to them as. Do you have different source material?
Refit is a work of art. Looks awesome at all angles.
I realize I'm 7 months late, But as an old time Tekkie from the 60s and ultimate nerd,
i must speak up... Now I understand how easy it is to assume that those groves or strips encircling the outer edge of the saucer section are part of the shield system. And that would make sense. Hell I use to think the same thing. But I have since learned years ago that those are actualy Sensor Bands, and that's what they were intended to be by the person who designed the the original filming miniature for the movies. That's also how they are listed on the aftermarket decals sheet for the model kits, Including the big 1/350 scale model by Polar Lights i recently completed.
I love this video a lot.
Such a beautiful design.
Beautiful model! Not sure, but shouldn’t the main registry be one ring higher? Looks kinda low down to me compared to the inset screen cap at 10:17.
Yup. Maybe he stuck a ring lower so the light hits it better though? 🤷
Once had a poster with a cutaway of the Enterprise from the TMP....now I know more!
Aside the fact that the placement on the NCC-1701 should be one grid higher, this is a well informative video
I saw it was rendered. But l didnt hear mention of the Tractor Beam Emitter. It's next to the strobe on the little rectangular nodule, on the ventral transom, under the shuttle bay doors.