William Buckley vs Christopher Hitchens (Part 1)
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- Undaunted by the Gandalf of conservatism, a young socialist from England called Christopher Hitchens steps forward in defense of liberalism. The third participant in this contest is R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. This is part 1.
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Thanks for uploading these!
; Thank! You! so much for posting!
Thanks for uploading this.
Thanks for posting this. I, along with I'm sure many others, would greatly appreciate if you could post the whole video.
Buckley is such a worm, he asks a question but as soon as he detects that his opponent knows his facts and is about to trump him with a rational argument he interrupts and talks over him in an effort to unbalance his retort.
Yet, by comparison with today's right wing TV opinion leaders, Buckley's restraint and preparedness to let his interviewees finish is remarkable, at least in some instances (and, perhaps because he respected Hitchens' intellect, most instances where Hitch had something to say)
I realise that I'm risking damning Buckley with faint praise, because that's a vanishingly low standard of comparison, but I feel he at least wanted to understand what it was he was up against before deciding how to disagree with it. While that's not quite as good as .... deciding *whether* to disagree with it, it's orders of magnitude better than the standard response of the lunatics who run the asylum we know as Fox News
To be fair. Some of Buckley's quips when he's been trounced by Hitchens are actually quite humorous. But he certainly knows when he's defeated and immediately deflects from it.
am I the only one that finds the tone of voice of the host incredibly effected and condescending?
+Tyler Schmidt careful he'll eat your liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti
Thank you so so much for giving us Hitch!!!!!
By the end Hitch and Hannibal Lector just sort of dismiss the squeaky guy like, shh, calm down, the adults are talking.
would be nice if you put a date on it.. at least what year it was
Tyrrell excepted, television needs the kind of intellectual debate Buckley and Hitchens bring. I enjoy that these are two intellectual men with incisive and interesting views. Thanks for posting.
Thank you.
I had this playing in the background while browsing other stuff and wondered "who is the woman who started to butt into the conversation?" but then I tabbed back and realized it was Emmett Tyrell.
Where's the rest of this discussion?
Absolutely brilliant verbal sparring coming from Buckley and Hitchens. Its like whenTwo champions from different divisions face off in a super fight .
There is not date on when this show aired. Please add this info.
love your description of Hitch. made my day
anyone have the date of this?
Thanks for the upload. It's like watching an artist when Hitchens is debating.
Hitchens eyes looked baggier then than they did when he was older
Whats Norm McDonald doing on in this video?
wish the DATE of the discussion was displayed
whaat yr what yr??
Please, could somebody pinpoint the exact date of this show, or at least the year?
What was the date of this?
which one?
What year is this exactly?
What year is this from?
Why is Buckley's head so huge relative to his body?
How did Norm Macdonald enter the debate?
fantastic.. check out the last remark from Hitch..
wtf happend at 8:08 ?
Why is William B. Fuckley's head twice the size of his body?
Who is that third guy? Michael Keaton?
I don't know if you've seen the entire episode (only part of it has been posted by this uploader), but I have.
Even in this portion, neither Tyrell nor Buckley make any thrusts that Hitch doesn't deflect with ease.
Absolutely! Its like watching a fencing match between a couple of very skilled swordsmen. Impressive stuff - made even more so by the fact that despite occasionally talking over one another, it was, largely, a very well mannered exchange. About the only place you can see that kind of respectful dialogue today is the Daily Show - a comedy program, ironically enough.
This is great, a young CH, taking on one of the biggest GOP bullies of all time, love it!
Tyrrell couldn't tell a laugh from an argument. ...He is the editor of the American Spectator after all.
6:14, Buckley stuns himself with his own pronunciation.
Absolutely correct.
It's Norm MacDonald being used as a puppet by Meredith Viera, apparently.
+ScinLaeca358 hilarious!
Heh. It REALLY is amazing how much Tyrell looks like him, isn't it? I was sort of blown away by it.
Well said; I agree.
I got here via a debate between Bill O'Reilly and Jon Stewart. I'm not sure whether or not this discussion between Hitch and Buckley was more enlightening, but it was certainly more pleasant to listen to.
It was taped on 12/11/1984.
I swear, I grow new brain cells when I hear Hitchens talk.
I enjoyed listening to both Buckley and Hitchens. Unlike Buckley, Hitchens was likeable.
just wondering if you were smiling when you posted that?
give a dog a biscuit he'll want ten. where' the rest of the video? have you got a link for the whole talk? hitchens was just too freakin insightful!
I choose to do what I feel.
8:38 Lynndonn Johnnsonn lol I alway's loved that.
Love him or hate him, Christopher Hitchens always brought brains to the table. RIP
Hitchens was always quick to express his admiration and fondness for Buckley...both will not soon be seen again
Scary moment at 6:13 when Tyrell started talking but was still off-camera - I thought Joe Pesci had arrived at first!
that 'tell me more about it?' line from Buckley is very confident. that'd certainly put me off
Oh my dear, Buckley was not designed to smile. He looked like a caricature of a vampire!
Ya, at 8:15 Buckly is doing an impression of George Hamilton doing the Joker.
Your clever and well thought name says it all.
Norm MacDonald wrote a book about politics? How did he ever get on WFB's show?
Quite fascinating how Hitchens sounded the same when he was debating back then as he did more recently.
Translation: Tunkul59 obviously can't refute (or expound upon) Romney's background.
Did anyone else chuckle at the 6:16 mark? After hearing the sophisticated voices of Buckley and Christopher Hitchens in came Richie Cunningham.
One of Hitches greatest strengths is his ability to stay the course. He doesn't allow others to talk over him and attacks immediately when weakness in argument or presentation is shown. He's as brutal as he is funny.
I may be wrong. I may have over estimated his political shift.
Look at this young stud. How old do you think Hitch was here?
I'm surprised that at such a young age Mr. Hitchens was able to kick Mr. Buckley's ass like that.
I miss Mr. Buckley, especially the way his forhead would twitch when (amused).
6:21 Norm McDonald?
I thought it was Mike Yarwood from the thumb nail!
My popcorn farts aren't even this dry.
I agree!
Hitchens reflection on the use of the IRS against political opponents is timely ...
Hitchens is an intellectual thresher, eviscerating everything in his way!
Who the hell knows Tyrell these days, yet he is still alive; and Buckley is more forgotten each day. Hitch will live for centuries.
Older phase Hitch reminds me of this Buckley (delivery, poise etc.)
Was there humor to be found in the statement he was responding to...?
i know who buckley and hitchens are. who is the rather plain spinster lady in the powder blue jacket? i don't recognize her....
"My withers, Mr. Buckley, are unwrung."
7:24 see, Christopher DOES smile
lol at tyrrell just laughing in his face
What do you think?
This is the first time I've seen Hitch giving it to pompous cushion warmers at such a young age! He's a funny bastard...and so sharp and intelligent I just shit myself!! Out if all the people that have died on this planet I miss him the most....thank fuck for youtube...
Excuse the quick reply. CH is doing more than saying it would have been nice if McGovern won - he's backing McGovern's case for election on the grounds that he was less likely to abuse power than Nixon. Hence WB referring repeatedly to previous presidents who, he says, had used more power than Nixon. I question whether the original parties in 1972 had the foresight to see potential abuse of power and avoid Nixon as easily as CH has the hindsight to say they should have had.
I threw a party the day Hitchens died. Someone remarked that he was roasting in hell with Teddy Kennedy.
Yes. He was quoting Hemingway.
I thought of that too. I think he's a mix between the two.
this ought to be censored if there is a policy to eliminate obnoxious remarks, no?
The Hitch dominates the stage.... Buckley even realizes that Tyrrell is woefully outmatched........
was his head really that big--buckleys
I enjoyed that he underestimated Hitchens, then tried to taunt him and then got destroyed by him. I was seriously laughing out loud...
Government IS the problem. Name me another more inefficient entity in the country? There is none, and yet Obama says "the government is the solution."
Romney graduated near the top of his class at both Harvard Business School and Harvard Law School, at the SAME TIME, AND also while raising a family. And if you've seen Romney's impressive resume, his turnaround accomplishments in different venues, erasing record deficits, etc., to call him an anti-intellectual is beyond laughable.
10 to 15 years ago if I remember it correctly.
Oh damn, I miss Hitch!
I do not know whether Hitchens became American, but Buckley is a born and bred American.
He picked up an English accent while studying in England.
People don't talk like this on current affairs anymore. There are no real serious discussions of any length by educated minds, only shadows of such a format left in the English speaking world.
Well, it was nice to see an adversarial political discussion actually settle some issues for once....
December 1984.
Even when young, the way Hitchens always debates - his opponents will attempt to talk over him and he'll raise is voice ever so slightly and continue as if nothing occured. It only works if you know what you're talking about and not many people do.
Norm MacDonald sounds like he was neutered in this video.
The topics of surveillance are apropos for 2013!
Three great minds: William F. Buckley, Christopher Hitchens ... and a young Norm McDonald! :)
No. To say some circumstance would have been better than the actual one that occurred does not require the agents contributing to it to have foreseen the differences. Hitchens' is merely a statement of preference, as when one says, "it would have been better to have been born into a rich family."