Seat Concepts Comfort Seat Tall vs Standard
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- čas přidán 8. 11. 2020
- After living with the stock seat on my CRF450l for long enough we picked up a Seat Concepts Comfort Tall seat and a normal comfort seat. We debated getting the Comfort XL but decided not to. Here we'll explain why we're glad we didn't.
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Super review - with actual details and differences stated. Much appreciated! Your Seat Concepts review is the best on CZcams. ⭐️
Awesome review bro. You answered a lot of questions I had about the various types of seats that Seat Concepts offers for the CFR450L. Thank you for this review!
Super well explained especially with different positions as I am going to embark upon a Central America journey, & cool that your son snuck into the video
Thanks for this video. After watching it I ordered the Comfort XL seat and I can definitely testify that it is a huge improvement to my bike's man/machine interface (MMI)
MMI..nice
MMI … lol … you should trademark that!
Seat concepts seats are great. I have a standard height on my WR250R. It is the single best modification I’ve made to the bike. Their customer service is also outstanding. I had a minor issue with my seat, and they fixed it without question. Turn around time was 8 days. I would recommend their seats to anyone. Nice review!
Totally agree with you. Heard about them for a long time and now I can confirm myself how great they are.
Seat Concepts seat is without a doubt the best mod I’ve done!!
Great video, I have the standard comfort seat on my 690 and can ride all day without feeling any discomfort,I think I will order the tall seat for my 300l to create a little more room between the foot pegs and the seat since am 6' 3"
I’m glad you made this video. I look at their website and I have no idea what to get either I kind of like the idea of the lower seat but not enough to trade Comfort for it. I drove an 85XL 600 and I love those big fat cushy seats, I get it high-performance motor crossers wanna thin little hard seat understanding most of the time but the truth is I wrote it most of the time on the street and dirt roads and gravel roads and I didn’t do a ton of hard-core motocross and as well for my writing style I want comfort. I get the advantage of it but that’s a very small portion of my riding and I’m spending most of the time sitting down, on the XL 600 I can go ride for three or four hours and other than the XR 650 L or one of the big adventure bikes there all ridiculously uncomfortable. I totally get it if you’re riding motocross but it’s not a motocross race bike it’s a dual sport. It should be comfortable do decent off-road decent on the road and be just a good all-around bike in my opinion. I know a lot of people disagree and that’s cool people should definitely get what they want but the market is left out that comfort option except for the XR 650 L, but I’m still torn. I like simple air cooled thumpers that are incredibly easy to work on and take very little maintenance but you can’t deny the performance advantages in these newer bikes either but I’d like to meet somewhere in the middle. In concept 450 L with a very comfortable seat would be kind of my dream bike but I’ve got some other problems with it, there seems to be a problem with running cold especially in the throttle with it killing the bike or having a little hesitation and it’s an electronics problem which from looking around is going to be about 3030 $500 to replace the computer which is really the only way to fix it. I think Honda should fix that for free because I don’t wanna pay $11,000 for a bike and then have to throw another 3000 in it to just make it work decent, But it’s not that bad so probably just live with it but again it’s an $11,000 bike it should be pretty flawless for what it is, but seat concepts saves a ton of these bikes because the DRZK Alex, all of them are very uncomfortable. Yamaha went for the straight up dirtbike with a tail light and turn approach and it’s very cool but I don’t want one and the whole dual sport community or not hard-core off rotors and the manufactures keep shoving motocross bikes with turn signals on us. But people love the Kahler 650 the XR 650 LTW 200 and the Omaha XT 250 and even the DR 650 and part of it is because they’re just very simple very easy and they’re actually a dual purpose motorcycle they’re comfortable easy to ride simple to maintain and they can get you there off road without being a race bike. I think the manufacturer should have both. Bring back a 1985 Honda XL 350 with an electric starter and a rear disc some decent forks and that’s what almost every non-motocross and non-adventure bike rider once in a dual sport. I like some of the 250s but I’m a big guy and it just feels like riding a toy, the old XL 350 the Yamaha XT 350 and even the DR 350 had just enough power to make it work but still be a very easy ride simple multipurpose bike you could ride it on the motocross track and have fun but you definitely weren’t going to win but they were fairly comfortable and you could ride them around town all day as well or do a short adventure run and to do a two or three hour ride was fine. I think seat concepts sells as many of these bikes as manufacturers because pretty much everybody I talk to you either has one or once one because the seats on the stock bikes all pretty much suck and that’s kind of sad, it’s not rocket science and the manufacturers could fix this problem.
But I’m glad you did this video, I get confused also and anytime I look at reviews everybody loves what is ever when they’ve got which is the problem with most reviews so it’s not really telling me much. This gave me some good insight.
I thumbed up @ 2x4.
Yup, 40km to the trail, 100km of hard trail riding and literally 40km back home stood up on the pegs. My calfs are in great shape now.
My dad should have done this on his 250l when he had it. It was far more comfortable than the 450 stock but he would have really enjoyed it
Thanks for the great vid! Question is your bro in laws top the gripper or diamante? I'm not seeing asphalt as option. I think id like his top with the low slip sides in the tall
Really excellent video. Thank you. The SC website is pretty confusing with the various options they offer. At 6’1 1/2”, 185 lbs, I’ve considered the tall seat to get me more forward on my CRF300L and improve my body position standing. My riding is not that technical or aggressive - I’m an old guy - but 80/20 with 80 offroad. I stand alot. I’d appreciate any suggestions or recommendations. Thanks again.
Hi, I opt'ed for a black & red Comfort Low, just to give me a less to reach the ground, and it will get better as the seat "settle's in"...I'm from Australia, and no one had any Seat Concepts in stock, and where pretty expensive, so I went direct, and ordered a seat, and they mentioned that there would be some delays due to Covid, and I think it took approx 6 - 8 weeks, and it ended up costing just over AU$600 incl shipping, which is cheaper than if I had of been able to source it locally. Well worth it, for the comfort & the different "look" it give the CRF450LX.
Did this give you the better reach to the ground?
I was going to get the low seat but its wider than stock so not sure if it would make any difference because of that.
Thanks if can respond.
I love your review first off..But I have to ask how do you like the Pro Tapers vs the Renthals that come on the bike?
This channel always makes me wanna pop out my 110 and rip
Thats what it about though isn't it! I'm ready for warm weather to ride again
@@DadsDomain awesome! In central jersey it’s still cold. All I’m doing is wheelies in the driveway
Thanks! I can’t take more than 40 minutes on the stock seat. Ive been looking and this made my decision much easier...... next is the Vortex to get rid of that annoying fuel shut off.
Both are amazing upgrades for this bike, after those get some new tires and you'll really be set!
You know how the 'asphalt' seat surface ends up after about a year of use please?
Soooooo does the TALL add more foam or do they mold the plastic up or somthing. You mentioned it in your video but never answered your own question! But Thanks for the vid!
Loving all the tool boxes. Jealous
Idk what one to get. I’m 6’1. I think the standard is fine for me. Should I get comfort, commuter?
Good to know!
Last week I got my new 450RL and looked at the new seats available. Went to order the SC seat and everybody is sold out and now I have to wait 2 months.
Thats too bad, I ordered mine directly from them and it did take a few weeks to get built as well
Hi, Did you just wish you had the asphalt gripper top just for looks or for more grip? I mostly just ride logging roads & regular roads with the occasional light to medium trail. Which top material would you recommend for that style of riding? Thanks in advance!
Both, I am just a fan of it for the looks and the fact a lot of my riding is more off road orientated vs street. But overall I am still very happy with it
Love the look of your bike. Nice and red. Is it my imagination or has the "red" plastics of the 2020 and 2021 gone to a more pinkish fluorescence?
I think its just because there is so much red with not as much contrast now
My 22 i thought the same
Hey I was just wondering if you use a battery tender and if you do which kind is it? I been looking for one there is not very much info
I normally use the deltran brands but for this bike I don’t leave them on a tender. Lithium is actually happiest stored not at a full charge. The only draw at a rest is the clock so I just start it every few weeks. I also have an RC charger with a life battery mode to match these so I can charge it and or charge/drain it to a storage mode (60%) at anytime so I am set. But if I bought one it would be a battery tender from deltran with a lithium mode
I have a beta and the Seat is known to be one of the hardest seats known to man And another thing I have problems with especially when I wear knee braces I cannot grip the bike with my legs it’s like plastic on plastic. I would love a seat that comes out a little bit past the plastic so I can grab it with my legs. The comfort seat looks like it might have that ability to do that for me.
You don't sit on Betas! Try stegz pegs.
@@MrFastFarmer I literally just ordered some
I have had my Seat on order since March.21 and still waiting. They are very behind in production. I ordered the carbon fibre/gripper top like your brother in laws. They just emailed me that if I wanted a red W/gripper top like yours that I could get it by mid-late may but if I want the black on black I would have to wait at least another month to hopefully get it by mid to late June. I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO.......LOL.
Ooof thats a long way either way. But I will say if you're keeping the bike long term you'll be glad you waited for what you really want
@@DadsDomain Hello sir... I just bought a 2022 KTM 300Xc. The stock seat os terrible. So, I just bought the SC comfort tall XL. I'm 6'4, 220lbs. What your saying is your glad you went with the tall XL vs regular comfort XL? Are you still enjoying the seat? Thanks!
does the tall give u more foam?
I'm glad you like it and your brother in law likes his.tell me up front. And the price?
Hope your brother in law is doing well.
I got the same seat but I am struggling to fit the seat on the bike. It comes with three hooks on the underside of the seat. The first near the tank engages OK, but I can't seem to get the two rear hooks to fit inside. Did you experience the same? I am thinking of cutting the rears off.
No not really, my tank hook was a little snug at first but now that I've put it on and off a few times its fits really well. Maybe file it down in spots a little here and there and see if you can get it to fit in?
I have a question my 140 also has the jerkiness what is that is that an ecu? Great video
I am assuming you have the klx140 which I believe is a carb? It shouldn’t be jerky so I would tear out the carb and clean all the jets and passages and retune the pilot after you put it back together. It can be tricky to chase down but the carb is the likely spot to start
@@DadsDomain thanks for replying funny thing is the dealer that had my klx140 had a full service check list that includes carb and gas filter so idk what the problem is but I’ll find it thanks again
Is the Tall seat more comfortable than the standard height as far as cushiness? If so how much more comfortable is it? I’m 511 so I’m not really tall and I don’t necessarily want a taller seat but I might spring for the taller seet if it is quite a bit more comfortable? Thanks
I say yes its more comfortable with the caution that when I rode his bike he has his rear spring set tighter than I have mine, but overall I do feel its more comfortable once broke in.
@@DadsDomain I was in the same boat. I’m also 5’11”. I went with the tall sc xl. Previous back surgeries. I hear those that say the standard is just as comfortable but I couldn’t shake the nagging suspicion that more foam would mean less shock on my lower back. So far it’s amazing! Tight technical is a little more tricky but the comfort while seated now is unreal compared to stock.
@@Dirtpoorhomesteader glad you have overcome back surgery
Should have gotten a Yamaha, they come with a softer 2x6. I put the cushy one on my snow bike. A must have for old bony butts.
I have a question where did you get your vortex and which one did you get
I got the one they recommend for the 450l and I am 99% sure I ordered it from Tokyo mods
@@DadsDomain ok thank you
Hey man just got the 21 450 RL I'm debating on getting the comfort or comfort xl idk which one is the better choice I do a lot of mixed riding like desert, pavement, even dune riding
Tim I ordered the black comfort from Rocky Mountain the day I got my bike. It came fedex the next afternoon!! Kentucky to Ohio shipping.. but.. it is better than stock but I am almost kicking myself that I did not get the Comfort XL like I have on my 250 L… That thing is very comfortable and wider. Problem is its 8-10 weeks out til delivery. I primarily ride around town in the city and very rarely ride standing up at all so I am getting a lot of ass time... looks wise? all black look niiice.. My channel is waxman vids I did a quick seat video..
@@waxmanvids5015 I'll check out your channel yea I got the xl and love it!
@@timchiriac7194 dang it i screwed up maybe im so damn impatient...maybe ill order xl and sell the blk comfort later when it comes in 4 years ;)
@@timchiriac7194 soooo i ordered xl today haha now to wait 8 weeks!
@@waxmanvids5015 awesome you'll like it
No doubt the manufacturers should put better seats on the street-legals, along with balanced tires.
$220 for a seat cover ....good lord someone's trying to get rich all at once 😳😳😳
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Lol, anyone who thinks that a honda seat is hard has never ridden a Austrian bike