@@mayur.mridul Practically? 3.5k would be maximum right now. Theoretically? There is no limit on ELO. It would be extremely hard to get it that high, because you basically need pools of people with similar elo to boost a single person up, but its possible, especially with growing popularity. A good example, for example, would be League of Legends' ELO system. Back in the day, the highest realistical achievable ELO was about 3k and only 1% of players would be at that level. Nowadays, about 20% of players are at that level, meaning there is more than enough room to grow even further beyond. They dont really implement it realistically, but its safe to assume that their current 1% would be at 6000 ELO, compared to the old system. Chess was so elitist for so long that 3000 ELO seemed to be the highest possible, but with the relative increase in popularity due to streaming, that myth will eventually break. I'm not gonna be shocked if Magnus and maybe others will end up breaking the current ELO limits to the point of breaking the world record multiple times within a single tournament.
The grandmasters (daniel and Hikaru) actually teach them tips, tricks, and techniques to help them win. Just like how Daniel helped moistcritikal win over xqc in 6 moves
it's just cool that they take the players seriously even tho they are beginners. thats how you motivate people to get into chess and keep playing even when there's no money to be won
We thought it was time for the Prophet Moses (Daniel Naroditsky) to pass the torch to the Prophet Joshua (Charlie/Cr1tikal), but it seems the time has not yet come.
Thank you. I've just spent 15 minutest wondering how he could've lost the quarterfinals and won the tournament at the same time. I couldn't even find any mention of this match anywhere.
Yassuo is such a good attacker that it's a bit disservice that coaches teaches him stonewall and caro-kann which are two very defensive openings instead of Sicilian or gambit openings.
If there is one thing I learned about in chess, it is the more modest you are, the better you play. The moment you get cocky is when you blunder and underestimate your opponent.
If Yassuo sticks with chess after this tournament's over, and continues playing and working on his game, he's got potential to become relatively strong. Really impressed.
If you put forth some effort in playing you will pick up on 99% of what he says. You may not understand the 8 depth nuances he's alluding to yet, but that's fine.
Yeah, I'm a total blunder bot which certainly doesn't help! I'll get there. Hikaru is great too and a really cool guy, so no disrespect meant to him at all.
"Hikaru no Go" about Go and "Sangatsu no Lion" about shogi, are two of the top best anime of all times, And sangatsu is just gorgeous and super well made
You both did and do a great job at the accelerated advancement of these PogChamp candidates, as well as others like Levy and your analysis and coverage as well. They aren't playing like beginners at all, and really did a great job too at absorbing a great deal of what you've been teaching. Excellent everyone. Thx.
Does anyone else think time games suck ? You cant really see peoples full skill if they just lose to time. It makes you rushed and make bad moves and you wouldn't do that if you didnt have to panic
I need help understanding the rating system, I normally play rated bots around 1300-1400 and can beat them consistently. Does that mean my rating is also around 1300?
If Yassou learns how to turn all that board control into an effective coordinated assault, he's going to be a force to be reckoned with. His weakness is that he plays too defensively, even when there's a welcome mat saying "please assault NOW".
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Charlie's memetic potential is too powerful. The commentators have already latched on to his description of Daniel as "a prophet"
It's no longer "Scholar's". It's now T H R O B B I N G !
Charlie might not be a GM in Chess but he certainly is a GM of memes and internet culture
master of fleshlights
Botez is quite the memer as well
It is a proxy
they are so into it that they wore t-shirts adequately to their piecies' colours
youre assuming charlie owns anything except white T-shirts
Nice catch
Charlie only wear white t-shirts
Well Charlie entire clothing is just blank white clothes. So it isnt a surprise
bold of you to assume Charlie wears anything aside from plain white shirts
Literally a Cold War between streamers with Hikaru and Daniel as the superpowers
Lol
Wasn't Hikaru's student xqc?
@@blyatiful_niggachu yes.
@@blyatiful_niggachu Yeah, but Hikaru has been teaching a bunch of the other streamers as well
Even if Hikaru is a stronger player than Naroditsky, I feel like Naroditsy is an amazing coach from what I've seem on practice streams
classic charlie's moist tactics. He's actually waiting for Magnus Carlsen to reach 5000 ELO first before winning a tournament and reaching GM
Isn't Maximum elo 3k?
@@mayur.mridul No? As long as you keep winning against people with similar skills you can reach 5000 ELO, but it'll be a pretty big pyramid scheme lol
@@theillusion3622 WTF lol
Alpha Zero should at around 3.500+
@@mayur.mridul Practically? 3.5k would be maximum right now. Theoretically? There is no limit on ELO. It would be extremely hard to get it that high, because you basically need pools of people with similar elo to boost a single person up, but its possible, especially with growing popularity.
A good example, for example, would be League of Legends' ELO system. Back in the day, the highest realistical achievable ELO was about 3k and only 1% of players would be at that level. Nowadays, about 20% of players are at that level, meaning there is more than enough room to grow even further beyond. They dont really implement it realistically, but its safe to assume that their current 1% would be at 6000 ELO, compared to the old system. Chess was so elitist for so long that 3000 ELO seemed to be the highest possible, but with the relative increase in popularity due to streaming, that myth will eventually break. I'm not gonna be shocked if Magnus and maybe others will end up breaking the current ELO limits to the point of breaking the world record multiple times within a single tournament.
I think it’s cool how these high level chess players actually are impressed and respect these streamers
Masters usually do it with everyone, so nobody leaves chess because is so hard lol.
The grandmasters (daniel and Hikaru) actually teach them tips, tricks, and techniques to help them win. Just like how Daniel helped moistcritikal win over xqc in 6 moves
its dope how charlie is so good at videogames he fucked around and started learning chess meta
@@elfacun550 Not with these two, both yasuo and charlie played amazingly, Grandmasters are a lot better and that's why they recognize skill.
Masters of all disciplines are usually great with noobs. It’s the mediocre players who act like gods 👍
This is so great when they listen into the streamers. Such a contrast to "professionals" commentating.
I still prefer Yasser Seirawan as my favorite commentator but yeah it is cool to hear their thoughts
they are professional commentators...
it's just cool that they take the players seriously even tho they are beginners. thats how you motivate people to get into chess and keep playing even when there's no money to be won
@@T1J to be fair
They both did play really well
"Can we talk in normal language here"
"Absolutely, this is monkaS honestly"
How to interact with twitch viewers 101
instant regression
Spoiled in the title N. I. C. E
Watch it live then.
@@jumalakohtuotsus4174 Or just don't put massive spoilers in the title for the majority of the people who weren't able to catch it live? Jesus.
@@jumalakohtuotsus4174 twitch is for autists
@@alexfresh8951 rude
Someone actually needs to learn to make better titles..simple fact if you spoil it some people won't bite
Could you not spoiler the game in the title
Charlie losing is a major bummer.
@Filip Gasic [citation needed]
@@tenno250 he messed up one word
lmao its th moves in between that matter lol
ALLHEART _ It was pretty expected seeing who he’s going against
Moe showing off his league of legends big brain strats
@XDmemeMaster he won...
@XDmemeMaster kekw
Most annoying streamer
@@TheRalouch Someones salty...
Just his opinion dude
CHARLIE NOOOOOOOO
My words exactly
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GM Daniel seems very wholesome
Thank you for letting me know the result of the match before I’ve seen it
pogchamps always got your back ;)
Arthur de Winter Twitch is disgusting, no thanks.
@@Ethorbit Boomer alert
@@CrazyTVAnime If you're not using twitch, you're just smart, not boomer.
@@YuraK25 o why? I would watch streams on CZcams but the youtubers that I like watching streams on twitch.. so I don’t have a choice..
never expected moe and charlie to interact with one another...
It's like your 2 friends that don't know each other and for the first time
Did they ever interact with each other? I did not see them talking to each other directly through this video
God yassuos really damn solid. Mad respect.
he seems to be extremely good at keeping up great defense and turning it into beautiful attacking positions instead
Shmoist he is a quite smart person
@Vo Anton That's just twitch chat. They ALWAYS know and do better. No proof required tho.
He got Alex simping for him 😂
We thought it was time for the Prophet Moses (Daniel Naroditsky) to pass the torch to the Prophet Joshua (Charlie/Cr1tikal), but it seems the time has not yet come.
Joshua wasn’t a prophet
@@johnmcpike5582 He was, but I don't know how E P I C it is to debate about biblical notions of prophethood in the comments of a chess video.
@@johnmcpike5582 you're wrong Chode
Nah, Joshua wasn't a prophet
Might be out of context, but I'll say it anyway...nobody passes a torch to Joshua Graham...
This is more entertaining than the 2018 World Championship
2019 was boring as fuck. It was a drawfest.
Lmfao actually true
Daniel is probably the best commentator. Clear, concise and simple.
The title is wrong, this isn’t from the consolation quarterfinals, it’s from the group stage.
When?
Thank you. I've just spent 15 minutest wondering how he could've lost the quarterfinals and won the tournament at the same time. I couldn't even find any mention of this match anywhere.
Wait, so charlie did win? heres the last match clip?
This is like the American Idol of Chess. Searching for possible GM talents in a pool of beginners.
They are all garbage we need a new pool.
@@incognitonotsure909 okay, bomberm
@@incognitonotsure909 we need a new incognito no sure
Still imagining tyler1 playing chess with these pepegas
I just imagine Tyler shouting everytime he makes a good move 😂
Rabbit QUEEN DIFF
@Parma zyxwvu LoL and chess are two different games
@@wutgreens443 any game that needs strategy will probably have something in common with another one alike.
@@BartMK pull up pull up
Man i wish i had Naroditsky as a chess teacher. He explains extremely well.
Yassuo is such a good attacker that it's a bit disservice that coaches teaches him stonewall and caro-kann which are two very defensive openings instead of Sicilian or gambit openings.
Ummm yes sure man im smart too see
Umm chun wang opening are the best yo hu
@@pumpkinspice5848 shut up umm
im pritty sure the mongolian brown beating would be the best fit for yassuo, though but you might be right
I would have opened with the cleveland Dumpling Mongoose stance but then again I don’t play chess.
@@BruceCruce lmao
I almost had a stroke I thought Charlie cut his hair for a moment.
Why would you spoil the result in the title?
@Tyler, The Creator exactly
naroditsky with the lipbite at 14:45 lmao
charlie triggered him there lol
Holy fuck he wanted to be pinned down right there
ahaaaaa
He was fighting his boner from when he saw that move
If there is one thing I learned about in chess, it is the more modest you are, the better you play. The moment you get cocky is when you blunder and underestimate your opponent.
Thanks Mozart, very cool
If there is one thing I learned about in chess, it is the better you are, the better you play. Thats basically it.
@@birdenand so basically you need to *git gud*
Not really, black was rightfully getting as cocky as one can be, but he sadly demolished Charlie
@@gabrielerando7795 yup, totally. he was a way better player though and faster. im just talking about beginners in general.
This game is from group stage btw
Yeah so many things wrong with this title; no date, wrong game, spoiler..
So did Charlie lose to hutch already?
Charlie looks like if the keto diet was a person
this commentary was absolutely dope. I'm learning so much about chess. Way to go guys. This is awesome
If Yassuo sticks with chess after this tournament's over, and continues playing and working on his game, he's got potential to become relatively strong. Really impressed.
"relatively" lmao
Charlie might not be a chess grandmaster, but he for sure is a fleshlight grandmaster.
I never thought I’d see the day where popular streamers would start playing chess like this.
I LOVE IT! I I LOVE CHESS!
Twitch streamers playing chess is the best thing that could have ever happened to chess
I love how their shirts matches with the match.
"i know yassuo is fast"
bet bella knows it too
this isnt even consolation quarterfinals, this was groupstage
I appreciated Alexandra’s boss fight music, for the record. I laughed.
i cant believe chess is making a popularity comeback in streaming, this is wild
Naroditsky is a great commentator. Half of what Hikaru says goes straight over my head!
What? Hikaru is by far the best teacher/commentator? He’s a former coach.
?? Hikaru makes everything so much simpler. He's funnier too
Theyre both great, but Hikaru goes in more detail he cant stop himself :)
If you put forth some effort in playing you will pick up on 99% of what he says. You may not understand the 8 depth nuances he's alluding to yet, but that's fine.
Yeah, I'm a total blunder bot which certainly doesn't help! I'll get there. Hikaru is great too and a really cool guy, so no disrespect meant to him at all.
Why this is interesting? I thought chess was boring hahahaha this look like an anime battle
Chess anime would work as good as the basketball ones imo. Tbh chess anime has HUGE story potential.
@@richaragonzales1355 Hikaru no Go is an old shonen anime about Go, that's about as close as we've come I'd say
Richara Gonzales, nah. Kuroko has too many weird things that couldn’t happen in a chess anime.
"Hikaru no Go" about Go and "Sangatsu no Lion" about shogi, are two of the top best anime of all times,
And sangatsu is just gorgeous and super well made
Imagine if the commentators are like casters in pc games. That would be crazy hahahaha
You both did and do a great job at the accelerated advancement of these PogChamp candidates, as well as others like Levy and your analysis and coverage as well. They aren't playing like beginners at all, and really did a great job too at absorbing a great deal of what you've been teaching. Excellent everyone. Thx.
Alexandra is so nerdy, i love it!
She smiles way too much when shes watching charlies plays
33:30 Alexandria with the dab.
4:48 a long stretch of awkward silence...
Does anyone else think time games suck ? You cant really see peoples full skill if they just lose to time. It makes you rushed and make bad moves and you wouldn't do that if you didnt have to panic
That’s the point of blitz games.
i was just waiting for a royal fork, that would've been cool
7:00 *THROBBING THROBBING* nightmate flashback
So this tourney brought me into the Chess community. I may not be a strong player but this is so wholesome and I’m learning a lot!!
Lost to the timer. Biggest fucking blue ball.
why did they choose some random frame of charlie for his picture in the thumbnail and then Yassuo has the perfect news cover image lmao
Best match in the whole fucking tournament
I feel like Daniel is going to ask if there are gonna be any cow pets in the game
"are we watching grand masters?" charlie definitely screamed triumphantly when he heard this on the re-watch
We need to recruit these guys for the SCP-5370 Project
Charlie’s ego fucking inflated after his win against xQc
moving his pieces and allowing a pawn fork is called a "Pair of pants"
why spoil in the title
Speel een gimma met de boys om te ontspannen van je woedeaanval.
Penguinz0 be looking like the guy from 77 ronin
We need to really appreciate Alexandra's commentary
19:48 Me when I stub my toe
whats the name of those sick beats yassuo's listening to?
my cat at 3:00 am: 19:48
??? This was in group stage, Yassuo already lost vs Voyboy in champions bracket
Why have time in the first place I though from what I remember most chess tournament have at least 30 min?
Its blitz mate
I need help understanding the rating system, I normally play rated bots around 1300-1400 and can beat them consistently. Does that mean my rating is also around 1300?
No, bots are much weaker than humans at that rating. Beating 1300-1400 bots puts you around 1000 rating vs humans.
Love how they explain the moves.
I felt like I saw my dad lose, same feeling
I wanted to watch the whole thing, but the title made me not want to
If Yassou learns how to turn all that board control into an effective coordinated assault, he's going to be a force to be reckoned with. His weakness is that he plays too defensively, even when there's a welcome mat saying "please assault NOW".
Ugh nice fork
23:08 uggh *nasty breathing noises* EUUUWW YUCKY
“UGHHH”...YASSUO-CHAN!”
he plays chess like he plays YASUO. so aggressive
My favorite overall content creator vs my favorite league content creator
Can someone gimme the time stamp?
17:30 i believe
15:55
Of what?
@@davidison2955 the title
5:07 is not awkward
Alexandra: He speaks fast
xQc: *Hold my beer*
19:49
And they said infinity war was an ambitious crossover. Yassuo did pretty fricking good (I’m a 1900 and I thought that was entertaining af)
Exponential growth with each game. Yassuo is a chess saiyan confirmed.
Can't believe that talking normal now has turned into memes. From static dynamic to monkaS. 13:25.
That blinking microwave is pissing me off XD
This shit is like doctor stoppage in mma
Charlie lookin like a 7th Japanese Warrior.
Look, it's longer than a minute long
21:32 why is no one talking about bishop takes rook b1
18:35
I like that this stream is getting more young people into chess.
Welcome to a series entitled fun tactics
Let’s take a look at what Charlie is thinking:
What Charlie is thinking:
critikal made Alex say moist
My favourite favourite casting duo :D
Why not critical do the double spear
Bishop + Queen
B5 + A4
Wait this video is mistitled. This is a group stage match, not playoffs... Yassuo went to the champion bracket, not consolation...
How bad am I if I can’t follow their analysis during the interview lol
20:55 Yassuo rap
Maybe in the next title you can say what happens move for move!
9:00 he was defending the a7 pawn
Wait what if players can just access the livestream on their second monitor and hear the discussions from the pros