You need to watch this if you're a CARAT
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- In this video, I have talked about the hidden stories behind the success of Seventeen, both as a group and individually. Let's delve into the lives of svt members and talk abt the sacrifices and struggles they faced as individuals and as musicians. While talking abt Seungkwan, I wanted to talk abt Moonbin too, bcz last few months have been really tough on Seungkwan, but I decided not to bcz ppl might take in a negative way (him taking sympathy etc). Antis stance doesn't matter at all, But i don't want ppl to say even a single negative word for him bcz it's a very sensitive topic for him especially. I have also talked about Junhui's tough childhood and Seventeen's pre debut strugglings. I mean no offense to anyone in the video.
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I have never understood how you can just Stan one member of a group and then call yourself a fan of that group. All 13 members together make up the essence of Seventeen. Their personalities and differences are what makes them who they are and what makes true Carats love them. Their singing, dancing and looks are just a wonderful bonus. They are each unique individuals who are beautiful both inside and out.
Amen to that!
That's why when someone ask me who is my bias I always say all of them, it's so hard to pick one. I really love all of them. They are so honest, kind and so talented.
Seventeen is ONE. No biases for me , I love them all. 😊❤
They all handsome and talented! I actually appreciate the members who are not too popular because I feel they should receive love and support too like Woozi ( so talented) S.coups ( I love him ) Jun is so special and kind. Who’s saying Vernon not handsome?! Are those people blind !?!? DK is so funny and charismatic! Seungkwan is so enjoyable to watch-he is good in so many things at the same time. Hoshi just so adorable and brave! Wonwoo he is charismatic and gentle. Joshua is so smart and likable and so gentle and handsome ! He is our pride for US fans especially Cali fans because he is from L.A
Jeonghan strikes me as carefree and charismatic and kind person beside that he is adorable. The8 he is kind and super talented person, he listen and care a lot about the members. Mingyu is most favorite I know and it’s okay 😊 did I get everyone?! Ohh almost it’s Dino ! He is the lucky youngster and loved by all the members! Talented and outgoing personality and he is a happy camper among his big brothers. ❤ I hope all Carats love them equally because Seventeen need all 13 members not just few of them and it’s hurtful to the other members when they know they are not loved equally while they work all so hard equally! Don’t you guys agree ?! 😊
When I wasn’t particularly interested in k pop groups, I didn’t understand why there were so many people there if they were all just singing. Then I found out about Seventeen and realized that I hadn’t actually seen really big bands before :D
But several weeks after I no longer understood how this group can exist without at least one of them. Each of them is talented in their own way, their voices and personalities complement each other perfectly.
I totally agree with that love one love the whole group ❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰👍
I don't stan a group just for their visuals. I stan them for their hard work and their music. Yes, there's members in all my faves that are handsome, but looks are nothing comparing to personality, hard work, love, health and messages in the songs.
exactly! same for me.
I found out about Seventeen while watching shorts on CZcams and, to be honest, I went to watch the entire MV because I was wondering who this handsome boy in short video was😅But I stayed with them because of cozy healing atmosphere. Most of their songs are not at all in the style that I usually listen to. But their music makes me happy😊 Therefore, now and forever I am сarat! I went to watch a lot of MVs of other k pop groups because of the beautiful faces in the previews, but I stayed for long only with Seventeen.
So I think good looks in K-pop are good as advertising. But it is definitely not the main thing. First of all, k pop is a genre of music, and sometimes I think people forget this🤨
sameeee
Imagine not liking these 13 amazing personalities…
Carats will always support OT13 and love all the members equally. We have so much content Nana tour, concerts, going seventeen etc. Don't pay much attention to them. Those who are spreading these things are antis who are jealous. Love OT13❤❤
1. Scoups could have been in the maknae line but due to unforseen changes, he had to be the hyung for 12 other younger brothers and carry that heavy burden for years
2. Jeonghan had to be strong for his members and take on the role as the mother of the group
3. Joshua who rarely cries because he has to be there for his younger brothers
4. Jun who had to be lonely for how many years and took on the role as the oldest hyung before the 95 line appeared.
5. Hoshi who felt guilty for having to say harsh words to the other members because he saw that as a way for all of them to survive.
6. Wonwoo who had to lose his mother
7. Woozi who had to carry the entire music production of the group
8. The8 who was so happy to perform in his homecountry but instead received hate for something useless
9. Mingyu who was accused of bullying
10. DK who was mostly only recognized because he is funny and that was it
11. Seungkwan who is one of the maknaes but played the largest role in promoting his group because his company couldnt
12. Vernon who had to drop out due to bullying
13. Dino who had to sacrifice being with friends in a school trip for training
What i mentioned may not all be entirely the biggest picture out there but these were ones i observed and learned as a baby carat. AND YALL HAVE THE GUTS TO GIVE SHT TO THEM? Fix yourselves before even trying to touch boys who had to sacrifice half their lives for a dream and a road that was full of uncertainty.
Special mention:
14. Samuel who had to leave the final lineup for debut because he is too young.
I didn't know that was supposed to be 14 members. I have learned something new.
@@Liz_Lizille there were actually supposed to be seventeen members but they dropped out before the debut date due to personal reasons
well jeonghan in one program said that he is not the mother of the group :/ I think we should stop calling him like that
I'm a new carat and found their charm first through their content. The music followed later on. I simply found them to be charming and funny. The chaotic dynamics of the group is entertaining. My love for them solidified after finding out their story, rising from an almost-bankrupt company to be one of the best Kpop groups in our time. I do love them all and I don't find anyone nor any reason to hate these guys. But like others,I do have my favorites. Also, I'm not one to stan a member or members just for their looks and that's because I easily get bored. I look at personality, charisma, and talent as well.
Welcome to Carat land!
I am a kpop fan from 2018, i have stanned so many girl groups but never stanned a boy group. Not even a single boy group catch my attention until Seventeen (no hate to any bg) I start stanning Seventeen from decmeber last year, they become my ult group within 7 days , i become Carat because of their friendship & their talents. These 13 people have the relationship that every person need or want. I have never seen this type of relationship in a kpop group. These care for each other, love each other, tease each other. They are a true family, i dont think that they can live without each other. I have two bais in Seventeen but believe i have to watch a scene 13 times just because to see each of them reaction.
Every one of them has so much talents, They all are so handsome in their own way & people call them ugly?? Ugh theso people need to check their eyes... They dont deserve the hate, i still dont know why people hate them!!! Anyway Thanks Seventeen for making my whole better & for making me smile! You guys are the best 🤍
#Seventeenisthebest
Who wouldn't love this 13 amazing men? As Na pd said, they are nice people. Watching their interactions and relationship with each other, is always heartwarming. A smile never leaves my face whenever i see them. For me their all-rounded talents and looks are just bonuses.😊
Never trust anyone who's accused seventeen members for overshadowing others members especially Seungkwan, if you're a true carat You know.
Fr
ALL of these men are fantastically talented, kind, and generous! Please remember that they are also human and have deep feelings that we all share. Be kind
I really appreciate the creater of this video. The girl has literally spoke what is in the mind of most of carats .These antis who are trying to body shame the idols and question their bonds are most ridiculous person. Man you should be aware of the fact that these idols has everything that a idol should have that's why they are way above you so no matter how much you hate them you will never be able to reach the success they have achieved.They don't dare to show their faces hiding behind the keyboard and comment on looks of those people whom thousands of fans appreciate.
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The fact that all 13 of the members are unique in their own way and have their own quirks makes me love them even more because they are not afraid to show it. The fact that people hate these idols just because of their personality makes me sick. They work so hard to deserve this recognition in the first place.
Every member is unique. Me, I always go back to what these boys went through the moment they started as trainees. The hard work, the resilience, the sleepless nights, their tired bodies, the hunger, the harsh words, etc. All for the love of their fans and to support their families. If you think about that, you will treat each of them special. This is not only for Seventeen, but for other KPop idols in general. They have my respect.
I whole heartedly agree with that a lot of other groups guys & girls has been through this starting point and are still going through it hopefully, all or most have came through a bit battered and bruised but I hope they all achieve their dreams.😘
I really really love them because they are very honest persons
I stan alot of groups since late 2nd and 3rd gen.I never seen any qualities of svt in any other groups in the wholee kpop world .they're the only group where each and every single member work hard,being passionate and ambitious abput their work.Many kpop idols only do their work to get famous not only showing interest in music which is sad.And even though i have bias They're the only group where i love all the members equally ❤
I stan all the group, I can honestly say I do not have a bias. because lets be fair they all would wreck your bias in seconds every single time. I stan a few groups and have no bias in any of them, I stan the group as a whole and love every member in all groups. seventeen is my top group and every single member is amazing.
This is sad but I agree with you... like imagine hating someone just because of a game..... How can someone do that and than hate comments all over X (Twitter)..... They (SVT) understand each other more than we think.... and Seungkwan... He is the one of main reason why Seventeen is well known (literally I was watching Racket boys... He is just perfect - Sports, Vocals, Dance, Variety show everything... Everyone was praising him and he was just politely smiling and thanking other)... and How can someone only stan 9 or 10 and leave others... If even one member is absent, i started feeling bad...DK... His smile while singing❤❤
And you know what hurts the most is that SVT know everything literally everything.... They even like and Comment on Fans' Post, so how could they not know
Yes i agree with Twitter stan are the most toxic ones out the yk the amount hate dk get it breaks my heart fr i never seen a man this kind-hearted who always wanted to put smile on other people faces he even himself said that he would have become comedian if he wasn't a idol like he is literally the sweetest boy ever like he is handsome ,caring,and his vocals are god tier 💗 oh my gosh i love this man so much
I agree how can someone hate dk and seungkwan 😢 they're the best person i know too perfect for me 😭😭
That's why I deleted my X account.... It's too toxic a place for me to stay.
Who could not love all these goofy fun loving talented respectful guys .please don’t disrespect any because of looks because looks doesn’t matter its what’s inside a person’s heart that matters most ❤❤❤+10
OMG I love videos supporting Seventeen is keep coming and coming... As a Carat from 2018 until now you would never imagined how much the older Carat have been through together with Seventeen... Like where were you guys at that time😢 And now I'm very thankful to all those new Carats as you guys appeared when they need you the most I hope those new Carats are keeping the tradition as one of the non toxic fandom in kpop (Sadly I can see Carats been acting different these days due to new Carats that been joining I hope they don't get worse😭)
If you hate Seungkwan, Hoshi, Jun and DK you're worst of the worst. As someone who fell for SVT not their looks but due to finding Horanghae and wooahae compilation super cute and someone who's favourite song is God of Light Music... I'mma ready for a fierce battle with this wretched ones..
The first line is so true
Thank you for this. I could write an essay on why I love Seventeen and how special they are to me... You spent a lot of time about Boo Seungkwan. Please know, he is actually one of my "safe places". When I'm sad, lonely, had a bad day, he is my pillow. (No, I"m not saying anything about biases because I never understood the concept.) I don't understand the hate for any band. All of these men are talented, human, and as far as I've ever seen in person, wonderful people. I loved this and needed this. XO
Glad that you liked it
I agree with all the facts you stated! We shall love all 13 of them, and not spread any hate towards any member ❤
I have stan this group because of the special bond they have with each other.They seem very genuine and relatable too.I never had a bias in svt because I find all of them attractive and can't chose one out of 13 members.I usually stan only girls grp in kpop, svt is the only boy group I have ever stan cause their songs suits my taste.Honestly speaking I think each member of svt have their own role in the grp and svt is incomplete even without 1 member.I really like to see them enjoying and having fun with each other.If you are a true carat you will love all of them and please don't hate any member😢.
SEUNGKWAN why u so much CUTE and BEAUTIFUL he is my bias love u so muchhhhhhhhhhhhh
They really love each other 😭😭 please solo stan use your heart to know real seventeen
Seriously, What's there to Hate SVT?????.....I don't Understand.......I support your Opinion, We fans shouldn't Interfere in their life....I love/Stan SVT because of their hardwork, Meaning of their songs and personality....Not by looks.........I will support SVT no matter what........
We can't see them together till 2029 broke me into million pieces. I was about to say a lot of things to those toxic people but now I'm crying 😭💔
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I am new carat but not new to seventeen back then in 2018 when i first got into kpop so i listen to kpop songs on the TV but yk i knew thier song i don't wanna cry that was amazing but i didn't pay much attention to the group just solely stuck on to the one fandom but throughout the year i get to know them alot so its not i just knew svt today but back few months ago i thought to myself there is nothing to regret at first i thought 13 members its alot but when i deep dive into it i understand the phase the more the merrier ykwim and as a carat myself at first i recognized few members and my first bias was mingyu he is still and will be forever but the point is i get to know each and everyones personality i fell in love with all members personality voices and thier talents and tge hardwork and effort they all put it how each one of them care for others check up on one another i still can't understand why ppl out there call themselves carat when thier literally solo stan or biases one member and leave out all the others I WOULD SCREAM TO THE WORLD THAT SVT IS 13 ffs ppl need to understand and i love how intoxicated this fandom i mean except the sasaeng those @$### and they are also human beings indeed they arw just one of us they breath the same air like us and eat the same foods and water we consume some crazy fans needs to understand it fr 💖 love you svt and carats♡♡♡♡♡
People that dont see how considerate seungkwan is are either blind or not carats. Also maknae line deserves better and seventeen as a whole don't deserve all the hate they get
I stan Seventeen as ONE 😊❤ I appreciate and love all of them !
Seventeen is my bias of Kpop group❤
I've been listening to kpop for almost 7 years but I never actually stanned a group but in 2021 I came across stray kids and started stanning them and I thought i would never stan any other kpop group so seriously but then last year I watched a performance of Seventeen Nd I was just stunned by their looks and talent then I looked for more about them and I definitely think Seventeen are If not the mosrt but one of the most talented and hard working groups out there and I have a big big respect towards them . thank you seventeen for always trying so hard ❤
I hope your words actually make people realise their mistakes because every single word you mentioned is so true ......them getting hate for no reason is absolutely unacceptable......I get the fact that carats are known to be the least toxic fandom in k-pop but that doesn't mean that you are going to keep quiet and not stand up for your idols......for me Seventeen came into my ife when I was craving for love and was mentally stressed out but stanning Seventeen did make realise that there is more to life and nothing's over yet....they gave so much meaning to life and all 13 of them are the reason why I am able to write this comment
Bruh Fr. They give a very strong positive vibe that I forget about my worries when I watch them
IDK why this made me tear up, I think because I tried to know every single member and their journey and fell in love with each one of them and their personalities individually and together. So for me, if any of them even get the slightest hate it breaks my heart because god they have worked so hard to be SEVENTEEN. They are so talented, dancing, singing, rapping, literally anything and each member plays a part in making the SEVENTEEN, SEVENTEEN. It feels so empty even if one member is missing so I don't understand the fans who stan only a certain number of members. SEVENTEEN is always OT13 for me💎!!
Not only SVT but any group like one should never exclude a member, only they know their own journey or things they had to give up to become part of that group. And we like artists for their talent so one should never like or dislike an artist because of their appearance or hate them for their personal life.
I was thinking about this a few weeks ago. Especially with Seungkwan. I noticed that if someone was watching a video of seventeen and asks about Seungkwan, like "who is he"... people don't reply and even go ahead to point out DK when the reactors didn’t even ask of him. I was upset because i love DK's vocals but Seungkwan is also a main vocal too. People were ising excuses such as DK isn't well knlw etc. I was like what? In every reaction video about Seventeen, DK is being spoken about as if he is the only main vocal in seventeen or something. Carats, let's give praise where praise is due. Don't ignore the other members. I bet the members do watch some fan made videos we make and read the comments.
Think this is a very good group and I think they are all very handsome young men. I hope that they get the support they deserve. I know I will support all of them. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
This group has something special and I love them all, I know what its like to be discriminated against, so I won't do that. If I was in my twenties I couldn't pick, because they all bring something that makes me feel worthy.
I won't say most Carats are divided in those groups you speak of, I also don't consider a solo stan as a Carat. It is forever OT13 or nothing, sure you might have a member you favor more than others, doesn't mean you leave out the others. We love all 13 members, might not be equally but each and every member ends up growing on you in one way or the other and you'll probably be like "oh! this guy!! I would like to be friends with him or oh! He's kind of like me y'know". Seventeen and Carats have always been like that. Those that hate on the boys, only stanning one member or only stanning a few members while leaving out the rest are not Carats to me and do not deserve the name, okay? Carats would always be OT13! We are Seventeen's Carats and Seventeen would always be 13 members! Remember that!
But thank you for talking about it! I understand your point of view
Thank you for saying that. When I became a Carat, I didn't like Jun, SCoups, Vernon and Seungkwan. After a year started to notice how they actually are. Seungkwan can be loud and can joke around, but he gave Carats great advice when I was at breaking point in my life and that made me love him. Jun and Vernon always looked so cold to me. Then one day I watched a Going Seventeen episode and my whole perspective of them changed, because I saw how funny and amazing they actually were and are. I use to think that SCoups are ugly, but he taught me that ugliness and beauty comes from the inside and it will shine through. I loved him more when I find out that he is also fighting the same monster like I am fighting called depression. I'm happy to be a Carat and for Seventeen to open my eyes to not look at the outside of a person, but the inside. BTW I find SCoups very handsome.
Sorry for such a long comment
It's alright~ Thank you for sharing this🤗🤗@@Liz_Lizille
Ya I agree. I mean thirteen members is a lot of members, and they all of their own personalities, and every fan has different personalities they like or are drawn to. Like you said, it’s not that you love and member less, but there are some that definitely you like better because of preference, and that’s totally fine.
💯💯💯 you are 100% correct! all carats should see this.......
I'll always support dem no matter what
Dey r my favourite kpop idol group 💙
it's just insane that people hate them. I found them through the Hot music video and I have followed them ever since. but tbh carats as a fandom and how they are was also a huge part of why I chose to stay here. to this day I don't understand why they are so underrated but I was even more baffled to learn how people hate them. I didn't learn about the concepts of solo stans and biased stans until much later but I have always tried to remind myself that I am here to see and support all 13 of them. the fact that I didn't know that seungkwan receives hate and is bodyshamed and called an attention seeker or that Jun is hated makes me realise that you're right. lack of awareness is definitely an issue here. I knew about the other events. the most recent events like rumour about shua and what happened after the macao fan event with DK and Hao- it just leaves me speechless because the antid literally had no reason to hate them, yet they did it anyway. I am so ready to fight and slap anyone who says that seungkwan is an attention seeker. the man has always done so much for his group's promotion. he constantly participated in shows and contents for promoting svt. it's insane how much work pressure he put on himself and people have the audacity to call him attention seeker. wtf is wrong with them!! also, vernon is one of the loveliest and indeed a handsome person. if he's not conventionally handsome, then I guess I am not looking for conventional beauty. each of them has quality and personality that makes them unique and even if someone doesn't find any reason to love them, there's still no reason to hate them. thank you for the video and calling out what needs to be called out. ❤
Girl i am soooo with you on everything, specially that if someone likes seventeen because of their looks , they aren’t real carats. Cause my biases are Hoshi and Seungkwan. And my bias wrecker is woozi. Literally no one talks about how great his visuals are. Also why are we thinking about marrying them like literally? Most of us are in our twenties and thinking about marrying them.Even when i was a kid i never thought of my celebrity crush.Like as a fandom we can do better.
I think overall the fandom is really nice but recently things got weird maybe cause of baby carats and antis pretending to be carats
i became a carat not a while ago and i can tell for sure that svt are the most real k pop group ever , they are genuine people u can clearly see through them cuz they are honest and kind hearted humans , they are really talented and funny and didnt get what half od the k pop groupes are getting until now maybe , they debuted in 2015 and shoot poor mv with second hand clothes they are down to earth and still love their company , jeonghan didnt want to be an idol u can literally tell he is there just for the other members because they have a bond its real , they are humans they have mistakes and its okay i dont even see their mistakes , i hope they continue their journey and never stop being the amazing people they are , i dont understand how people like them get hate , i have a bias line too but im ot13 if one of them is missing the fun is not completely there , im happy i became a carat eveen if its a little bite late , im trying to catch with everything they did , im so thankful rn for them , i graduated college and i dont have a job yet so they motivate me and help me to get through this hard phase of my life .
I appreciate your words and wish you a successful, peaceful and happy future. I'll pray that you soon get a nice job and may you achieve all of your dreams and goals soon💙
This is what type of Kpop video we need,an educational video
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I'm Boo biased, but I adore all 13 members! I love Seventeen because of their music, beautiful voices, hardworking and the bond between members. And I'm pretty sure most carats love ot13.
totalmente de acuerdo, siendo una boosadan realmente es lo mjr de la vida pero duele ver como no valoran a seungkwan siendo todo lo que ha hecho por el grupo 😢
as someone who biases all 13 members and ults 8 of them.. its hard out here. someone is always getting dragged for no reason. and with 2 of my ults being mingyu and jun, i feel like i am always fighting someone daily because no one talks about how talented they are. when jun released psycho, all i saw were people talking about him being shirtless. its disgusting. yes you can appreciate their visuals but i cant remember the last time i saw someone talk about what an amazing rapper mingyu was or what an amazing singer jun is.
Honestly i don't know much about seventeen. I got into kpop because of groups like 2nei1 bigbang and ofcourse skz, i got into kpop during pandemic in the start of 2020 before that i remember when BTS was becoming really popular and how my class fellows were obsessed with them mostly because of their looks and how obsessed and toxic the fanbase was, at that time i was into heavy metal and rock and found kpop cringy and because of the stans i had very shallow views on it. I just saw it as just a bunch of good looking guys that teenage girls drool over. But my views changed when i decided to give it a try .
In 2020 the the CZcams recommended me one of bigbangs videos "fantastic " and i was like "wow this actually sounds good'" and the rest is history, i also learned about the dark sides of kpop and it only made me respect the artists more and now i view every kpop group with utter respect the shit they go through is Honestly so much and i respect every artist for it.
Tbh some carats just want to find problem and create drama especially c-carats (speaking from a c-carats) They can literally do any normal things and c-carats will make it as a very big BIG deal, like now dk and minghao situation, dk got hated bc he called himself dake (for some reason they find it disrespectful) and ppl started attacking AND HIS FAMILY . Minghao was also getting hated for not telling him is disrespectful. They are so sensitive for what 😭but ofc not all c-carats are toxic
I still don't get why ppl drag idols' families in every matter
Wow I loved this video. It helped me a lot to know more abt the 13 SHINING DIAMONDS 💎 cuz' I'm a new CARAT
So I would like to thankyou 😊❤❤
Glad it was helpful!🤍🤍
Thank you so much for this video ❤🩹💎
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If you ever feel stupid, remember there are people who dislike these 13 kings.
FOR REAL LMAO💀😭
I have 2 biases in seventeen because having 1 bias is hard but i love all 13 of them because they all have their own charms craziness their talents and all 13of them are different people i am not a solo stan or biased stan I have 2 biases but i love 13 members How cany you hate these amazing ppl like you heartless haters😭 like if i have to make myself clear all 13 of them are my biases i cant decide on 1 or 2 all 13 of them are crazy amazing and talented amazingggggggg and tbh looks are literally the 2nd. I started loving them from going seventeen and then their songs so there is no way i would like them for their looks because they become god damn next level ppl in gose🤣🤣🤣 You get what I mean🤣🤣
My biases are Wonwoo and Deokyeom and that too by Nana tour and dk by his salute and more by his salute skit🤣🤣🤣
I have 2 as well
Thank you for the video 👍
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I love it when someone points out their pure bond, pure hearts and how genuine they are as human beings ! 😭 They are EXTREMELY talented and are just amazing human beings. There are so many things that we can learn from them. Self love, kindness, how important it is to love the people who are close to us and that hard-work and patience will be worth it in the end! 🫶✨🤍
I am a maknae line Stan! Seungkwan is my number one bias! It was his personality and cuteness that stole my heart! I also have 5 bias' and the rest are wreckers!
"Seventeen has a special relationship, no one can understand the friendship they have"
Still some ppl love just one and hate another one? It's 13+3+1=17 for a reason. U can't separate the 13!! And that doesn't mean they're nothing individually. Each one of them has their own charms. All their solo activities show that.
(I'm still baffled by this new info, how can someone love DK and hate Seungkwan, or other way around!!??😭😭😭 How can someone love one Sebong and hate another!!?????)
When I got in seventeen my bais is Jun but right now my bais is ot seventeen. I just watched nana tour hoshi was angry because he was not fun he want to make us laugh I don’t understand the people who bais only some members and hating others if you won’t love them together just leave them peaceful
tbh i hope that seventeen do what bts did and enlist all togeather, while jun,the8 and josh do solo stuff or create a sub unit, because i would much rather wait like 2 years then 4-5 years to see all seventeen members togetther.
Seventeen are so sweet like seriously what is wrong with people they need to get a life.
To stan 1 member among many other members, is really not a true fan and should not be called using the fandom name.
I could not even have one bias for a week coz it's been changing a lot! That's how crazy I get with SVT.
I've heard alot about the issues of Joshua that are surrounding the internet however I didn't comment and as a carat myself I never even posted something and going dramatic abt it in any of my socmed bcs I really believe Joshua.
SVT worked hard to their success. Carat, let us all protect SVT.
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I am a atiny but i love seventeen and carats and ive noticed a increase of hate twords ateez and seventeen i hope things get better you guys are amazing
I'm an Atiny too and I'll never understand why people hate Ateez srsly. I mean what is there to hate them? Some people are too toxic ngl
@kpop_kdrama_addict yeah now apparently gg stans are hating because ateez isn't getting hate for dancing sexy apparently to support ggs you have to do what you are complaining abbout
Real carats live all the members. I don't know why people make stupid excuses to hate someone else. Just mind your own business and let other live happily. Seventeen ny babies literally did nothing other than working and loving each other like borthers. I just don't understand people bro.I don't know that but i clearly know that true carats love all the members and seventeen will always shine!
I sometimes wish that they wouldn’t read fans stuff cuz even the most of us are genuine they’d still get hurt by those useful for nothing “fans”. They wouldn’t see mine but at least they wouldn’t get hurt and that’s all I want
I love them all but the first one I noticed is Vernon due to his English and goofyness so he's my bias I haven't picked a bias wrecker yet lol I can't choose I don't think I can tbh I'm relatively new to Seventeen though I'm actually bing watching Going Seventeen so far I can tell they are all crazy and goofballs and have huge hearts. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Conditinal love & UNconditional hatred 😢
I support and sort of agree with the statements you made in this video but for one thing. Vernon wasn’t the one struggling to adjust themselves in Korea as he’s been since 5 years old - I think you could have meant Joshua?
There are several videos of Baby Vernon, where he said that because he looks western, whenever he goes out, people stared at him and treated him differently and he felt really bad
i feel like you have to be a really miserable person to hate these thirteen young men. anyway. if you hate your bias's bandmate, you are not a real fan because if you really loved your idol you wouldn't hate those they care about.
Wdym 2029? I'll cry!!!!
Ikr😭
Who tf are u and why i love you
Bruh I thought it was a serious statement💀😭
8:29 this one also my wish 😂 married a man like dk 🤍
Us moment lol😂
Isn't jun's story a child exploitation? (Child labor)
NCT has a lot more than13members they have 26
They're divided in different sub groups. Seventeen has units but they are just one group as a whole
They don’t actively promote themselves as a whole. All promotions are subgroups(except for Beautiful i think, that songs btw). While seventeen actively promotes as 13 members. Like when i think of NCT, first thing that comes to my mind are the subgroups and not the whole 26
Love ur content! 🩵🩵🩵 Esp the mirror part this time loll
So refreshing 😌😌
Srsly tho ppl should just not say anything at all if they have nothing nice to say. Negative comments reveal more about the commenter’s insecurities than the issue they’re commenting abt 🥸
Thank you👐💕