Special forces AND Heavy Tanks? Romania Min-max
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- ENTIRE PLAYLIST • NEW Every Single Click... 00:00 Arms Against Tyranny ROMANIA
1:25 Romania starting steps
4:00 Where to build in hoi4
9:00 Changing goverment as Romania
21:20 Oil trader Romania
36:00 Special forces new support company
45:00 Unlimited speical forces exploit
55:00 Special tank destroyer MIO
1:02:00 Collaboration state exploits
1:15:45 Free tank divisions
1:20:45 Why upgrading railways is worth it
1:30:20 Special forces support company's
1:38:15 Feedback bug testing
To clear up any confusion I don't min-max 100% in these videos. I try to find a balance between my own fun and making the most of the game mechanics. ALSO I choose to play 'kinda' historical because I enjoy that more.
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Hearts of Iron IV is a grand strategy wargame developed by Paradox Development Studio and published by Paradox Interactive. Released on June 6, 2016, it is the sequel to Hearts of Iron III and part of the Hearts of Iron series of grand strategy games focusing on World War II. The player may take control of any nation in the world in either 1936 or 1939 and lead them to victory or defeat against other countries.
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For spies, the automatically repeat function allows the spies to reassign themselves to the original place of the country if they are doing missions like collab government.
I personally disagree that Navy experience should be nerfed. Yes it gives a lot, but you need a lot in order to build ships. Furthermore, training ships is very costly both in fuel, and in lost production capacity when you have to repair the ships.
One thing I've always wished is that you could use the XP to speed up research in the air and army section. It's my favorite part of the navy XP gain. But I'll be honest I never even thought about the fact it can hamper your production before.
聽到他說要"扣"海軍經驗，我差點笑出來
我草，知道海軍現在有多難收集經驗嗎? 再加上現在還有額外的"特種部隊"需求，原本就很多DLC科技需要經驗了
I know these videos are a lot of work, so I hope you're feeling the love (and ad/subscription revenue) from the community. You have a really nice voice and are so good at explaining things and making it fun. I just really appreciate it. ❤
Hey Dave, I want to point this out really quick, I personally find going for "Crack down on extremism" a go-to focus when I choose the fascist path as it gets you another Party Leader on the "Iron Guard" path with the Prince of Terror trait, at the cost of the Offensive Doctrine Advisor. I find it quite useful especially during Barbarossa as you can double it down with the Prince of Terror advisor for even more non-core manpower.
Iron guard also has a prince terror bonus
@@DaveFeedBackGaming which makes romania the best occupier the axis has.
Does that mean in multiplayer different axis players will specialize?
@@justinokraski3796 I, for one, don't play competitive HoI4, but it probably means that, yes, it should be (or could be) specialised. Most people run modded tho so I can't speak for that side
The collaboration governments only reduce the enemy’s surrender threshold if you are directly occupying its victory points, it doesn’t work if your allies are occupying the territory. In this situation, try requesting a major victory point from the Germans in Leningrad or Moscow; the soviets would have capped early 43.
More you know
Also love your videos man, I’ve been binging this latest batch of every clicks hard lol. You’ve taught me so much about the naval game. Cheers from Pittsburgh.
Been enjoying these series because its educational, but its also cool to see that someone so expierenced learning something they didnt even know was feasible. Also i like that weird heavy tank. Its like the kind you'd draw as a kid.
I also don't know how effective it is, but I constantly upgrade the spies.
Some points on collaboration governments from an almost exclusively Romania player:
1) You will not get the compliance bonuses in occupied territory if the original country still exists after the peace conference. In the example from this video, the Russian Empire puppet is the legitimate owner of all that Soviet territory, and it seems to negate any bonuses from the collab gov operations.
2) The location you performed the collaboration government operations seems to matter too. I play Romania a lot and have often been able to annex most of the Eastern Soviet Union. However, because I did my collab govs in Moscow, which Germany owns, I was only able to gain the compliance bonuses (and option to form a collaboration government subject) AFTER turning on Germany any occupying Moscow.
3) The collaboration government does not affect the surrender limit of the country if you are not the one occupying their territory. I have found Romania in particular struggles with this as they have a much smaller frontline than Germany, so even if you start fighting them when the Soviets demand Bessarabia, the Germans usually outpace your advance and occupy more of the territory.
4) If you intend to create collaboration government subjects in countries you have annexed, but you also change your own country's ideology (such as through a Romanian focus), make sure you only change ideology AFTER selecting the decision to form the collaboration government. Changing ideology prior to selecting the decision will result in the compliance in your occupied territories dropping, which may put you below the compliance threshold for forming a collab gov subject. I assume this is meant to represent your previous government being the one to make negotiations with the representatives of the collaboration government, who don't have the same sort of relationship with your newly formed government.
5) Collaboration government operations seem to not affect territory secured through focuses. For example, Romania has a focus to divide yugoslavia between Hungary and Italy. Romania can do 3 collab government operations, bid successfully for all the Yugoslavian territory in the decisions unlocked by the focus, and then make Yugoslavia submit and let Romania annex them. In this situation, the collaboration government operations are completely ignored and the newly occupied Yugoslavian territory starts at 0% compliance. However, if Romania does their divide yugoslavia focus, deletes their army, and then pressures Yugoslavia, Yugoslavia will refuse the ultimatum, allowing Romania to declare war and annex the territory by force. In that scenario the collaboration government missions suddenly ARE counted and the annexed territory would be at max compliance. I have no clue if this is a bug or a feature.
Collaboration governments and compliance are really weird mechanics and I can't claim to fully understand how they interact, there are so many times I've done something which has drastically screwed up my collaboration government plans. In general I'd say they're not very reliable, especially if you're a minor power.
I don't see a comment on it yet, but the -100% cost on motorized "glitch" is cause its actually -5XP. So normally its 25 XP to add the first division and then 5 for everyone after, but with the policy you get its 20 and 0 XP.
Just wanted to say thank you for this series. I hadn't checked on your channel in a minute, but I'm glad I did. I have 2k+ hours in, but haven't played since Man the Guns. The constant changing of game mechanics got overwhelming for me, so I've spent the past couple years scratching that itch with playthroughs on YT. Seeing you go through the newer mechanics in detail has really removed the intimidation and made me want to pick up the game again! Much love for that, brother. Hope you feel better soon!
Hey Dave, just want to say I’ve been loving the longer lets plays lately, it’s really fun to see you experiment with different mechanics and playstyles, and it helps the time go by when I’m at work. Looking forward to more 👍🏻
In my opinion, if you don't let them take Bessarabia it's easier to hold and if you call the Germans in you catch the soviets off guard which leads to an easy victory.
Agreed.
The river gives you a massive boost to defense and you can also strengthen it with some forts. Even just couple levels combined with the river and the soviets will never get through.
Super enjoying these longer videos! Looking forward to many more, I especially enjoy seeing the historical and often times suboptimal path done.
Absolutely loving these videos Dave. Lots of work to make I know. But we appreciate it. Keep trying new strategies. It’s nice to see a stream take paths and build units that are not the norm
So basically you do quiet intel and repeat the mission for full collab, you need 3 spies for that and it makes you not bother about them anymore once you reached 100% intel network
WOW, never throught of that. PRO
@@DaveFeedBackGaming I'm glad to contribute😍
Actually you only need a 50% network to do collabs. So you reach 50% with a spy, you put him/her on quiet intel and you put the other to do collabs on auto repeat. The 50% requirment doesn't go away since the network level doesn't drop on quiet network. If you have 4 spies it's even easier since if something happens to one of them during the operation you can replace him with no downtime.
Yay you've read my comment about quiet networks 😊 it works like a charm against Soviets. Build up network early when they have no bonuses from focus tree, then stay quiet and you are pretty much set up for a war with them :)
Hey Dave, just wanted to say thank you for the way you explain the mechanics during the game. You help make sense of things that I didn't understand at first. Love the content!
Always look forward to these Ty Dave
another movie length episode, Old Man Christmas has been good to us this year
Thanks for playing Romania!
We love dave!!!
I feel that some Yugoslavia minimax video is approaching...
This series slaps so hard
I feel like playing historical is not the way to play minors in HoI4.
I get the feeling that you want to make minmax and roleplay, and it makes you enjoy it more. And so be it.
But don't play with the AI, don't send garrison, you're better off having your resources to yourself.
Hey, Dave. I figured I'd give a more indepth explanation on how the new 1 division trick works. So while what you said is correct there is some more nuance to it and this nuance tells you when it's more effective. So the 1 division trick is less effective because when you first start doing it the game still thinks you have your original army size. And it takes time for the game to realize you've deleted your army to do the 1 division trick. I'm not exactly sure how long it takes per division for the game to realize you've only got one division but it does scale off army size. This means that france or the soviet union who starts off with a massive army it takes a very long time for the 1 division trick to start working, however for a country like new zealand or hungry who start off with a very small time it takes a comparatively very short time for the 1 division trick to get going. Let me know if anyone has any comments about this cause I'm pretty sure this might be a little confusing.
Oh yeah, it’s rommin time
hearing you talk about the focuses and it should keep going even if you don't have the required amount of factories anymore is nice to hear someone else say it. i even think it should be the same for countries that have a balance bar like switzerland or italy. cuz ill be 90% through a focus and it cancels cuz the balance of power bar ticks 1% to the wrong way and it ruins a run.
💯 So true brother
They call me the rommer
3:15 setting wargoals to free changes Hoi4 into a very different game
About the heavy tanks model, "the maresal" an actually real concept from the romanian army command was designed to be ricochet machines
The historical reason for 1 man turrets being bad, the commander of the tank has to do 3 jobs command the tank, be the gunner and the loader. Being the loader wasn't much of a problem early war as the gun calibers where small and the shells where easily handled, as the caliber of the guns increased the tank need a dedicated loader as the shells where heavy, this is why 3 man turret are what most WW2 tank ended up as, you get a dedicated commander, dedicated gunner and dedicated loader. If you lose 1 man from a 1 man turret, the tank can either drive or fight, if you lost 1 man from a 3 man turret you will be less effective but still able to fight.
Stacking spies is a bad idea imho because you lose "National Coverage." The more "Coverage" you have, the faster your network strength grows [e.g. 50% strength to start a collab gov]. I tend to have at least 3 spies in a country to do 1 collab, where one maintains/strengthens the network while the other two [at 50+%] do the collab, put them on repeat mission and repeat previous objective [build network], and you're set.
Depends if you want national coverage or network strength. Stocking is better for network strength
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I just tried that yesterday [US time] for the first time, and you're absolutely right. Learned something from this video!
Still waiting for the day when Dave realizes you can build tanks that go faster than 4kph and carry their fuel with them.
if your allies eat up the supply on the front, set the supply depots to not supply them, than all the supply in the depot goes to your troops
It only works if you're the controller of the supply depot. I admit its a feature I forget about
現在的DLC，民用工廠的使用不再是原版的 %數 相加減了，而是法案上的20% 相乘
所以假設舉辦戰爭債卷，-30%，也只是扣掉原本的6% =14% 的使用量
Dave: "the reason I don't like to playing minors, is that you really on your allies a lot."
Also Dave: *gives away all his Manpower and Land to Allies."
COME ON quote me correctly. Rely on allies to 'survive'
Surprised he didn't want to build in Bessarabia, considering he was planning to occupy that in the war with the Soviets.
Dave, I'm surprised you didn't do the classic Romanian brap trap
If you're really far ahead in research in a specific area, like industry, or air or whatever, you can actually abuse "steal blueprint" from your spy agency. This is because you get a 300% research bonus AND a ahead of time bonus from stealing a blueprint, if there are no new blueprints to be gained. They are also very cheap missions to prepare for, unlike collaboration governments.
I like that mechanic however the RNG is frustrating. Getting a excavation tech instead of dispersed industry is pain
@@DaveFeedBackGaming Yeah, it's also harder to pull off for certain techs, as the AI seems to prioritize some more than others, but I've had some measure of success with it.
The key is to steal your blueprints from a nation that doesn't have that much research done, so that way you can guarantee getting the research bonus instead of a random blueprint. It's a lot less finnicky than it sounds, i swear XD
34:45 (Does about half of 2 branches out of 5) “welp, I guess the focus tree is over”
Not a bug that Republican Spain cannot trade. It is part of the treaty that Turkey only allows non-belligerents to pass through their straight.
Still doesn't explain how the trade gets through suez and past Gibraltar. It's a bug if you reload a save game it allows trade
I hope that one day you do a video in this format as Democratic Greece. It is my favorite focus tree, as it allows for an expansionist democracy that doesn't simply blob aggressively like a lot of other nations. If you do ever choose to do this, please move the capital to Thessaloniki when given the opportunity.
I have played this tree multiple times and the best I was able to do was secure Bulgaria, North Macedonia, and Albania as buffer states. It would be very interesting to see what a more skilled player could do.
yess rom time
And the hits don’t stop comin’ no they don’t stop comin’ no they don’t stop comin’ no they don’t stop comin’ no they don’t stop comin’
Sending you good vibes Dave ❤
U like the main reason i can even attempt to playing this game
outtake
One of my favorite nation romania
Fun fact courtesy of QI, there is no evidence to suggest that Mussolini ever made any of the trains run on time, so much so that the train that he took to Rome to be sworn into office was late.
I love Rommin
Bhutan min-maxed next
Hello Feedback, can you please record Czechoslovakia min-max? I think it would be very nice to give this nation some love.
It have nothing to do with me being from Prague *cough cough*
Cap
the collab is glitched because the soviets still exist as the russian empire if you notice it in the collaboration governments it shows the russian empire flag so when germany changed the government the collaboration only applied to the new territory of the new government so it only applies to the province they have and not the rest of russia as it dosent count as russia but as german land dors that make sense
54:10 it's not actually related to justifying the wargoal anymore. its a 50 pp decision(for the baltics) when they do a focus, bessarabia and finland I think it's just the focus
Romania's always been my favourite country to play since HOI3.
I have a question about economy though, I see that you built a LOT of civs before the war started. How many civs should I build on minors before pivoting to mills? Do you ever convert civs to mills? Is there a ratio I should try to keep?
PS : for spies you can tick a box when you assign one to a mission that tells them to resume their previous task once they're done. It's absolutely mindblowing that this isn't on by default and I've only recently noticed it.
If you annex Hungary going down the other path (Balkan Dominance) you get locked out of the rest of the tree down that branch.
1:39:19 so fun fact, it's not actually "glitched" it's "working as pdx intended" which is bs
the way it works, collab governments mid war gives you compliance once the nation stops existing, meaning if they get puppeted or liberated it just doesn't do anything
Thank you paradox for this amazing well thought mechanic
Hey, i think i found an exploit. Not sure if this is a known thing.
When you buy a license for a plane, and you change the type of that plane (ie from fighter to cas), it looses the license modifier and you basically get a free template for the frame.
If you cancel the the license it also stay, then you can change it back to the old type and you have your free template (plus you get higher production, because you dont have the increased costs of the license)
Might be a good thing to do, when you play minors
Does this allow you to use modules you don't have the tech for?
@@DaveFeedBackGaming well you just need to research the light mg or bombs. And then you can switch from there back and forth. You get what I mean?
1:09:36 A one man turret is a nightmare, the one in the turret have to spot, load, aim ... .
you have to make a series after every patch bro ! its gold
Lore of Special forces AND Heavy Tanks? Romania Min-max momentum 100
59:56 “Out take out take out take”
WOOPS, left that in by mistake. I'll remove that now
How do licenses work FB ? Never seen anyone use them
long form is better than short videos
Bro doesn't chill, like touch the grass DAVE 😡😡😡
I'm just kidding, love your content
Better have been a joke
Poland next please 🙏
Can we take a minute and press 1 if you love Dave swinging his big hoi4 hog around
engineer gaming
I think the collab didn't trigger because there is still an independent Russia...?
Unless you did it off screen couldnt you also sell off the unneeded captured equipment on the open market for another boost?
I've done this a few times hiwever late game nobody buys them even if they're cheap
I can't keep up with that much content.❤ not done with hungary yet😂
cracko
you could puppet poland to get the MIO
I believe the colab gov didnt give compliance to the russian states because they fell to germany and not to you, romania, the one who colabed with the country. i believe if you did that as germany it would have worked fine
OUTAKE OUTAKE OUTAKE
I think the reason you didn't get your compliance is because the Russian tag still exists. Therefore the game won't use your collab.
Also he didn’t cap the Soviets, Germany did
do minmaxed historical greece
Romania fun
2 every click in 2 days must be christmas
Can you do a Nationalist china min max?
1:34:10 PEAK French Performance
Do Bulgaria please 🙏 😢
Please do historical british raj😊
SOON
As romanian i can confirm dave lost his wallet after playing this run
%100 equipment capture ratio
Gypsy larp lol
Can i just ask did something happen why your voice sound so gloomy?
Australia please
I think your mistake was playing a single player game like a multiplayer. In multiplayer you get to min max 1 thing and be fairly certain your ally players would pull their weights on other things like inf or air. Can't do that with braindead AI though. Of course, your game, you do you, but I just thought ypu'd enjoy it more if you had made some infantry for low supply pushing and some air just to be a little air autonomous
1:40:33 you're supposed to betray germany
What's "mio"?
whats your obsession with reliability i dont get it
Day 2 of asking for hoi4 every single click minmaxed Paraguay
Having a competant airforce means that dispered just isnt needed. concertrated is best
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Petition to rename the Maintenance Company to the Romanian Company (geddit because you steal the equipment)
btw sorry if he already made that joke I haven't watched the video yet lol
I’ve now binged and watched a lot of your videos and have some thoughts.
I honestly don’t understand your videos. You label and thumbnail the videos ‘min-max’ or ‘min-maxing’, and talk about min-maxxing, but then say you’re going to play historical-ish and play for fun too. You can’t do both. [Well, you can, as i’ll explain, but not the way you present it and do it and execute it.] The way you present those things are completely contradictory and cannot both be simultaneously the case.
You don’t say that you’re going to play in an interesting way that doesn’t mean you take over the whole world and is realistic (which in my opinion is more fun to watch, as there’s struggle and effort and thought and strategy involved), and have fun - while min-maxing as much as possible in and within those parameters and scenarios and choices. So I don’t get why you complain when people say you don’t min-max, because you don’t. It’s a black and white thing; either you are doing it, or you aren’t - there’s no grey area or nuance (at-least with how you set it out). You are not purely min-maxing, which is what you are advertising and saying you are doing when you label and thumbnail your vids ‘min-max’ or ‘min-maxing’ and then constantly talk about it. You label, thumbnail and say one thing, but do the opposite, while claiming you’re doing that thing and then complain when others say that you’re not. As I said, you could just say that you’re going to choose a challenging, different, alternate, difficult, interesting or fun (any and/or all of that combination) path and route to go down, and min-max within and in those parameters, but you don’t. You just say [for this video for example] ‘romania min-max’ but this isn’t romania min-maxed. This is, “I’m playing for fun, and i’m also playing for youtube and so I’ve decided that I want to do different things in each video, so i’m going to make ‘different’ [aka bizarre, strange and jarring] choices that aren’t ’min-max’ or optimal at all, but i’m going to call this min-maxed”. But you don’t even need to this, and that’s what I don’t understand. If you had a concept and idea and plan for the video and play through and game, each video wouldn’t be the same and you wouldn’t need to make choices that aren’t min-maxed like having strange divisions to keep it ‘interesting’. And i’ll touch on this in a minute, but we don’t even get to see the results, ending and fruits of this and all your gameplay, so it’s pointless and a waste of time.
As I said, you also make really bizarre choices to ‘freshen things up’ so it’s not the same in every video, but you can just play as best and optimally as you can while playing each country and have a fully realised and mapped out path, plan and strategy and min-max within and in those parameters, without making bizarre, weird and frustrating choices like having only seven divisions (all of which are special forces marine tanks??) like you did here? This bugs me quite a bit, especially (as i’ve also said, and as you always say) that you are ‘mix-maxing (aka playing as optimally and effectively as possible). But you aren’t playing optimally - not even within the choices you make (as you decided that you want to make changes each time to keep it fresh - which is unnecessary as if you had a concept for each video and play through you wouldn’t need to, and the choices you decide to make to keep it ‘interesting’ and ‘fresh’ are silly, and not congruent with ‘min-maxing’ as you claim, but diametrically opposed).
Furthermore, what is the point in making a one-to-two hour video if you’re not going to play until completion. Why not play until you’ve accomplished all that you’ve set out to, or at-least until the major war (if there is one) is properly completed). You don’t seem to have any vision or idea or strategy of what you want to do. Why not think ‘oh, today, i’m going to play as romania. i’m going to go down a semi-historical path and then vary. Here is what I want to accomplish and achieve’? Why don’t you look at the focus trees and options and figure out a plan and strategy and goals? When I play, I think ‘today I want to play britain. I don’t need to expand or conquer as I have a massive empire. I’m going to fortify and consolidate the empire and play defensively, and play in such a way that no one could conquer me and most wouldn’t even try. I’m going to play a peace through strength britain, and i’m going to remain democratic.’ There’s a fully thought out concept example for a video.
Finally, some of your complaints are against really very bizarre and somewhat annoying. Of-course you’re going to have more limited options and availability to dominate as a smaller country - isn’t that obvious? That’s also part of the fun. Making the most out of what you can, and maximising your success (aka min-maxing, which you claim in every video to do). It’s boring watching the same 1000 videos of people playing germany or america taking over the entire map (you said you like to play majors for that reason, as there is no other reason with your logic and reasoning). I enjoy watching your videos, but they could be a LOT more enjoyable, entertaining and interesting as sometimes it is quite frankly frustrating and irritating watching you.
I hope you read this and take this on-board, as I am obviously still watching for a reason. This is constructive criticism and feedback, and I believe it would benefit you and be wise to at-least listen and take it on board.
Deletar divisoes e glich nao fassa isso e trapassa.😢😢😢. E acaba com o jogo. So diminua tipo ⅓.
Day 2 of asking for fascist Finland
Playing Romania but not doing communist Parhon path? If I see one more legionary Romania, I promise I'll unsubscribe from the first person I see it. Sorry. Also Codreanu... literally the worst person in the history of Romania... if you to be really far right to pick this guy even in a map game.
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