Gus perplexed by 'strange' timing of Brad Arthur's sacking | Wide World of Sports
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I don't think Trent Barrett will do much with this side.
You might be right considering he doesn't have a so good record as coach but Mitch Moses returning might help a little bit.
Barrett has a crap record at all his clubs
@@zoef234he was up there with the best players in the World for half a decade ,he might be able to unlock the Halves
I don't think Bennett could do much with this squad either, bad recruitment relying so heavily on Moses
Only one team defeated Penrith (x2) and Storm last season - Parra, coached by Brad Arthur. It seemed as if Parra players only get motivated against the top 4 teams.
Stupid dumb call by the board. BA has had it tough with his key players out. Now Parra has to contend with Trent Barrett???? That guy has no idea. Year is done and dusted. Well done Parra board.
@Phoniq as a Manly fan, I will never forgive Trent Barret for what he did to the Sea Eagles. He told Nicho Hynes he'd never be a first grader and let him go. Same story with Jesse Ramien. Absolute idiot of a coach.
@@thomasrodwell563 yep. Well I wasn’t feeling good when I saw Parra taking him on. Who would’ve thought Manly and Parra Fans agreeing on something 😂🤣
Feel sorry for Brad. Good luck champ
10 years good run. Can’t be too hard done by.
Well done Brad. Longevity coach. Onto new things same as Parra
Getting fired the day before your birthday is pretty harsh tho
People laud over Wayne Bennett for his 6 premierships. What people also forget is that 5 of those premierships occurred a long time ago when the Broncos had all of Qld to themselves and a virtual Qld State-of-Orgin team on the field every week. The first Broncos team in 1988 was made up of the cream from the old BRL because the players wanted to be in the elite competition of ARL. Sydney was divided into 9 teams at that time. Granted the St George proved his astute capabilities but put it into perspective.
He’s not winning at St George Melbourne didn’t get stripped their points
Hard to remember any coach ever getting 11 years with no premierships.
Ricky
Sticky at canberra
Cleary went for a few years without one before Gus gave him a team.
Don’t just blame the coach , the players take the field, and unfortunately they haven’t had the best players and reserves other clubs have.
It's cheaper to sack the coach than to sack the whole team
No just sack the members on the Board who are complicit in Parra's downfall. Ok the coach was doing it tough but like at Souths the Board really stuffed up when they insisted that Adam Reynolds should go and they even had Alex Johnston in their sights....I feel for Arthurs and also the whole team.
Need to sack half of the players and sack everybody on the Board 🤦🏽♂️💯
No loyalty. Players not good enough. Not doing the basics. Injuries 😢
King 👑 Guz is right. When your key 🔐 players are out and you start loosing, you sack the coach. 😢
Parra fan fearing we might get the spoon this year. After all this
I reckon parramatta has left it too late. They should have done it weeks ago and pounced on Bennett.
How can Arthur be hard done by? He’s had 10 years and they’re now competing for the spoon.
11 years to achieve just one thing... but failed to do so.. It had to stop somewhere... got the Eels close many times,.. The team even climbed the premiership mountain a couple of years a go but couldn't plant the victory flag.. Windows open and you either climb through or watch them close...
Harsh?.. yes,.. but this is professional sport..
Brad walks away with a 1.5 million golden handshake for 11 years as head coach without winning a comp.
He was supported by a club for 11 years and he simply had to find a way to win a Grand Final.... at least once!
On the other hand Ricky at Canberra has an almost identical record to Brad over a similar period of not winning a comp (last and only premiership back in 2002).. and he gets the keys to Canberra and the saccharin, sycophantic backing of NRL 360 talking heads... That recent episode where they blew smoke up Ricky's tail pipe and declared him Caesar of Canberra for life and beyond scrutiny was simply sickening...
So maybe winning a comp within 11 years isn't really the criteria for keeping the head coach position at all..
Agree but he deserved to finish out the season. at least get his top 2 stars back. He was off contract at the end of this year anyway, literally 2 weeks ago they said his job was safe and they will support him to the end. The Eels board is a joke. This wasn't right.
Maybe it’s because most people who know the game realise how hard it is to win a comp and don’t blame the coach solely for failures. 17 teams in the comp mate, all being square that’s a premiership evert couple of decades.
The major points you’re not getting are: (1) the coach does not determine the teams success entirely (2) you have to have a better replacement coach in mind. Eels board have sacked a very successful coach with no replacement earmarked and without really considering that with good teams he’s constantly helped them reach finals footy - only a year where they’ve suffered injuries and where their roster is notably weaker have they struggled under Arthur’s tenure.
Happy to talk about it but as your comment was barely literate I’m sure that won’t be fun. Facts are Eels have done very well under Arthur and hopefully people start blaming the boards as often as the coaches - while the media won’t admit it, it’s very rarely the coaches’ fault.
It's ridiculous how the NRL and it's club system has been flawed with many mismanagement and disruption to organisation structure with its firing and player movement. Results don't happen over night and only deepen the holes left.
Finally!!! New coach please
I’m not an eels supporter but blind Freddy could see BA had seen his day
Same here. Parra should have gone on from the 2022 GF. Instead they went way down. Hard to understand and Brad Arthur must collect 100% of the blame.
@@michaelhayes862 some of his selections and recruiting and retention puzzling.
How much time does one coach get ten years no premiership it was only a matter of time before he got the boot
I don’t get this whole; ‘Ten years and no premiership’ line.
There are 17 teams in the NRL. Even supposing that each team won the premiership once, that’s SEVENTEEN YEARS between premierships, not ten!
Anyone who thinks that it’s reasonable to expect any team to win the premiership at least once in ten years is not thinking it through. Blaming the coach and holding him solely accountable for the team’s performance is just foolishness.
Sure, great coaches get great results, but not always. Craig Bellamy’s run at Melbourne is sensational, but he would be the first one to say that the team’s successes are not due to him alone.
How a team is performing depends on so many different things that making one man or woman solely responsible is simply irrational. This action from the board is like what politicians do; take some action to make it look like you’re doing something worthwhile.
It’s a means of justifying your own position and salary, nothing more.
Totally agree. GF’s are hard to win and each year there are so many teams devastated
No one under the age of 40 understands what you said or the maths! But thanks for reminding me!
The man led para to grand final, give him some respect para board.
Dumb move, clubs too trigger happy these days. Brad has proven to be a decent honest coach and the players let him down often.
At the end of the day, you cannot train effort
Sterlo and Brett Kenny with Peter Wynn running oranges and water
Board panicked thought hey let’s get Bennett now they have no plan b . And to think Arthur was basically sacked over 3 weeks ago talk about the board having no guts and let it drag on till now . Board should sack themselves while they are at it .
Cowboys should get Brad asap
Arthur signs with the rabbitohs
And Bennett signs with parra??
Its a wonder gould doesnt blame the NRL again.
Why replace him with someone worse? No logic.
Brutus's attack on Julius Caesar on the senate floor was also a "Brutal" sacking of sorts... Frothing senators (Roman equivalent for board members ) assured him of their full support, lured him to the senate,.. and then daggered him from every conceivable perspective.. Parra's metaphorical knifing by comparison was swift and lethal,.. even clinical.. No mop or bucket required...The amazing thing is that Brad had been technically dead since the first of may but no one mentioned a bad smell in the locker room?... Caesar's crime was declaring himself a god based on his many military victories.. Brad's crime was a loss in belief that crept in when his two most decorated generals fell gloriously in battle..., Staying on a year or so too long after the last drop of juice has been squeezed out of the lemon is only human..
The eels need to find a Parramatta great to coach them
sterlo,kenny,cronin and the great eric grothe, what a backline ,your time will come,its just getting that first one .
You know you've hit rock bottom when BA is replaced y Trent Barrett ....
Well he is the assistant and is only an interim. Get it
Says the guy who sacks coaches left right and centre
Parramatta need a halfback and a fullback. I would suggest Mitch Moses and Clint Gutherson would be a good fit. That would stop the losses
Parramatta board are idiots
There always shocked when someone gets sacked and the timing etc
Same with Demetriou
There is no good way to sack a coach from bad performance unless they finish the season..
as a rooster fan i see similarities, one of the most dominant sides in the 80s arguably the greatest backline of all time , arfer 10-20 years anything other than a premiership win is a dissapointment, the roosters finally broke through with ricky stuart;s first year as coach, since then we have had a different mindset, im sure you will break through soon,it all starts with enthusiasm in defence and self belief.
How secure is the caption writer's job at 0:34?
Sucked in Zac Lomax
he would be in shambles lmao
Once lomax lands in parra he’ll go back to his normal mediocre self 😂
Crybaby Lomax
Danny: they wanted to keep it secret but f*ck em. I released the story this morning 😂😂😂😂
Agree 100% the injuries and police matters which have plagued the EELS...unbelievable how well they've done. Blokes that give blood for their coach
Barrett will be worse. Buckle up eels fans
When are you planning on fixing that tooth Danny?
And having a shave. Looks like a derro.
He looks like he has just crawled out of a dumpster!!
Who knows the x blues coach might get his job back when you have seen a lot of league it is parra big decision since 1980
Why do these journalists on this show look like they have crawled out of a dumpster??
There aren't any. Two ex-players, a talking head and a second grade gossip columnist.
Will the bottles remain
Why would Gus be perplexed, he did that same thing to Ivan clearly at Panthers ! Best thing Penrith even did was to get rid of Gus the dud !
Arthurs head was next on the chopping block. Parra needs a revamp.
Danny Wilder.......his takes are rubbish!!!
So is his appearance, he looks like a derro!!
Having had something to do with Adrian lam I'd give him a go at coaching, might be a good fit for parra
Trent Barrett can turn it around
Where’s Big wiremu and big Ofahiki
Is Lomax still going to Parra now?
There are no contenders for the job, Arthur should have been given the chance to finish the season. He had his top 2 stars out, plus other players, The Board needs to go
Melbourne Storm has quite a few of their top players missing including Munster getting injured on Sunday but Bellamy makes it work.
@@Misslastcentury They got alot more depth then Parra though, This has been Parras problem for years.
@@MisslastcenturyStorm have 3 bloody first grade teams as their Reggie's 😂
Bellamy has been blessed with some of the Greatest players ever. Why do you think they're always strong ? Like the Roosters 😂 it's money !
Also the Storm have only produced 5 NRL players in 27 years ... Good work Victoria 😂
Good work Murdoch 😂
Perth were the better option not Melbourne !
Bring back the Western Reds they should have never been cut !
Stupid Billionaires 😂 have all the money but no idea on Rugby League and what would be good for the Competition !
😂 The NRL could be way bigger and way better , Just ask a dumb arse with no money like me 😂
I know what the fans would want 😏
NRL is only concerned with what the Corporate Teams and owners want and that's why it's very ordinary 🤬
It doesnt matta, its only Parra.
I wonder if Lomax is still keen to join Para?
Will Lomax reconsider his contract with Parramatta as a result?
It shows the real problem with Parra the board and culture
Arthur’s with Moses back Parra would’ve been fine
Don't want to be mean but Barrett's record at other clubs would not fill one with confidence. The Eels have great players but not great chemistry. You need the playing group to gel. Better luck next year Eels.
Cronulla sacked John Morris and took the flak. Admittedly John created the core of the current playing group which is also leading the table. But John was never going to wing a title. Craig Fitzgibbon was a masterstroke appointment which he is now proving.
Holdbrook?
Scapegoat for a team of players that don’t work as a group they rely too heavily on individual players not the coaches fault
Now tell me who is going to want to coach parra? 😂 even I’d rather go to Souths bc at least if you get the best out of that squad you’ve got a bit of a chance at winning a premiership. Even at parras best they’re not beating the top 3-4 clubs
Shame on you Board and any Parramatta fan that supports this decision. Shame on you !
Make the team perform always blame the coach
There players expect too win that’s the problem
Just goes to show how Gus is out of the loop on most things
The Coach is an easy scapegoat for Clubs to use to appease disgruntled Fans and Sponsors rather than admit to and address the very uncomfortable elephant in the room. A lot of marquee players on lucrative contracts are just going through the motions to prolong their careers and who can blame them, once their playing days are over, they're not all going to step off the field straight into six figure Sports media and Sports Journalism Jobs with zero qualifications.
Wayne is going to the Eels, for sure. He would have said he doesn't want to sign unless the position is vacant. Sack Authurs, Sign Wayne. Its happening. Either way Moses has been linked to a secret negotiation with the Bulldogs. Gus is the puppet master
5 years to late, time to commence a full rebuild
Trade: Moses for Curran
Trade: RCG for Liam Le Blanc
Trade: Ofahengaue for Edwards
Trade: Gutherson for Duncan
Trade: Lane & Paulo for Pryce & KPP
1. Blaize Talagi
2. Sean Russell
3. Will Penisini
4. Zac Lomax
5. Bailey Simonsson
6. Will Pryce
7. Dylan Brown
8. J'maine Hopgood
9. Brenden Hands
10. Josh Curran
11. Bryce Cartwright
12. Kai Pearce-Paul
13. Tallis Duncan
14. DaeJarn Asi
15. Liam Le Blanc
16. Ryan Matterson
17. Harrison Edwards
After Fifita backflipped on the Roosters, it'd be hilarious if Bennett does the same
Ez sign Paul McGregor or Geoff Toovey
Trent Barrett is a bad Omen lol
Long term eels fan, time was up, but over the decades, player retention of good players, and scouting has been very poor, but overall eels has no speed across the park...none...Moses is the fastest in the team, the backs are boring and slow, forwards are slow and work rate is low, 2 props rg and jnr have been missing, feel sorry for Dylan brown who is a great player with no support
JD signed up to coach the eels .
Would rather him then bloody barret.
To have him there for 10 years.. sack him mid season and not have a ready replacement. It doesn't sound like a club that reads from the same page. Storm's attention to details is where they consistently excel. I'd be going hard for Billy Slater, if he's willing to come .... thats the type of personality and level of detail needed there.
I reckon Slater will wait until Bellamy retires so he can coach Storm
Why not poach Craig Bellamy, you know, the Super Coach who gained his reputation coaching big ticket stars. And when he can't do anything with them, like his flop with the NSW Blues, sack him too.
Good news
People saying he's been the coach for so long, he stuck around in 2016 when nobody in the world wanted to be anywhere near parra. Not even the messiah could have won during those dark years...
Brad Arthur will coach the Manly Sea eagles, you heard it here first! read this in a year's time
The problem with having Bennett at your club is the inevitable fall once he decides to leave after 2-3 years. He needs to be your permanent coach otherwise whoever comes after him is going to have a bad time. Just watch, Phins will totally implode in the coming seasons following Bennett's departure. Same decline that happened to Bunnies.
The Bennett curse will strike again
No Parra Premiership 2024
Para started going downhill once Trent barret came along
How is this a weird thing? Blokes had 10+ years with nothing. Every year our injuries somehow cost us? Clearly something isn’t working at training, we lead most games and lose (by big margins). He kept playing his terrible son game after game when we had young talent waiting. Average as signings (he’d have a say) and doesn’t pick the best team possible week in week out. Sivo needs to go🤦♂️ drops our wingers/ centres weekly on a rotated roster 😂😂
"Gus perplexed" nothing new there!
He had 11 years. Too long and too late
Cleary out, Panthers win, Ponga out, Knights win, SJ out Warriors win, Walsh out Broncos win, theres not excuse to lose that many games without your star player. Losing 5 out of 6, and most of those losses you’re getting pumped, haven’t won a premiership, yeah move on
Seriously? How long did Cleary, Griffin, n Barrett lasted under Gus? I think Gus just wanted the Eels to keep Arthur so the Eels will finish below the Dogs n make him look better. If Gus was the manager at the Eels, Arthur would have been sacked a long time ago for under performance n achievement.
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RAY PRICE FOR COACH --- Or he'll beat the snot out of ya!
Parra should get Adam o,Brian has won two premiership 😂😂😂😂
Crappamatta
Sorry 😔 King 👑 Arthur. Off to the pub 🍻
Arthur was there for 11 years , no comps , one gf appearance and a couple of wooden spoons 🥄. His time was up and never achieved anything . That team
Thanks for not even getting close to a premiership in 10 years. 👏
They need to get rid of Trent Barret from the coaching team, every team he has been a part of has gone backwards quickly. And bounced back shortly after his departure.
Wayne dosen't want to go parra.. why does everyone keep trying to make him 😂
BC Parra are so desperate
Bad decision and a dog act to sack him a day before Arthur's birthday. 👎
Shaun wane to parra leagues
Ch 9 peasant tv sucks for league coverage, thank god all the clowns are on it and not Fox
Sign bennent and win a priemership what a joke brad arthur is better for parramatta then bennent all this talk about bennent its a myth and a waste of money
Goose is always perplexed. Only his opinions and views are the accepted by him. It's been that way since ARL folded and became NRL. Wayne Bennet will coach Parramatta.
If I was Parramatta, I would either consider signing as coach, just on one year terms, Jason Demetriou or Michael Cheika. With clauses. Make the eight in the first year, you get another year. Make the top four next year, you get two more years.
Bennett will be the only 100-year old coach in NRL history ;)
Don’t worry Brad you will be training the blues in a few years when Maguire’s time is up footy coaches are like politicians they get rewarded for failure