Bad For Vista? | DJI Goggles 2 vs Goggles V2 | Side by Side Comparison
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- I have a lot of quads, I can't switch them all to O3 yet but going back and forth between vista and O3 on the Goggles V2 is a pain so I've finally got some Goggles 2 and wanted to test them with the vista. I've heard different things from different people and seen lots of opinions on this so I wanted to compare it for myself. It's not a perfect test but it's close enough for me to be reasonably confident in my conclusions.
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A well timed video, thanks 👍
You're welcome!
Great video!
interesting timing for this video, I had an unexpected micro failsafe with my mini lifter and now it makes sense because I had way more range with my O3 air unit and goggles 2
Ah yeah the O3 has great range because it can make so much better use out of low bitrate because of the h.265 compression. The first time I flew O3 when it came out I went way further than usual as one of my spots and it cut out because I wasn't used to being able to fly with such low bitrate, I can see the same thing happening with Rx if you're not careful
We've done alot of testing in concrete between V2 and G2 goggles, with stock, and with all TrueRC, and the V2 always hold signal a little longer. V2 also have lower latency at 120fps instead of 100. The v2 also run 6S, so you can use any old flight pack.
Yes, the vista has a lower output power when on O3 firmware, so it won't go quite as far, all else being the same, but from my tests it's very close. As for latency I can't tell. For power I'm using the speedybee BEC so I can still use any 6s pack I have
@@kddronesdifference in latency is supposedly 2ms. No way anyone can feel that difference.
@@KOrnhOliO1 Yeah maybe some people can but I definitely can't tell the difference!
I am sticking with my v2 for multiple reasons. main is I hate the blurring in the corners from the small .5" screens. next I like my analog in to be able to fly my cheap tinywhoops and micros. last would be antenna choices. v2 can get better range with better antennas.
All valid reasons!
What is the foam you have on the v2 Goggles? Im using the Flight foam at I'm finding it rather hard. V2 still working fine for me, no need for the G2 yet. Thanks for this upload.
Thanks! I'm using the Hensych foam from Amazon, by far the best I've tried on my V2 it's so so comfortable:
Hensych 1pcs Replacement Eye Mask... www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09KPJS1PK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Hi, can you notice in your video feed goggles 2 with caddex vista some stuttering? Thanks
I did not notice any stuttering, the latency will be a little higher than on V2 because the screens in G2 are only 100fps instead of 120fps but I also don't notice a difference there
This is amazing! Can you please share(Google Drive) a sample dvr mp4 recording on both goggles? I want to see the image quality from my v1 goggles. Thanks in advance!
Yeah of course, DM me on Instagram or email me and I'll send the files. One thing to note is the G2 records the DVR at 1080p 25 Mb/s but the V2 records DVR at 720p 40 Mb/s so the DVR in G2 is comparatively worse than what you actually see vs V2 Goggles. This is probably because for O3 with H.265 25 Mb/s will give about the same quality as the previous H.264 at 40 Mb/s, however this disadvantages the vista DVR on G2 because it still has to use H.264, only O3 can use H.265.
Hello sir, My osd doesn't appear in v2, do I have to install wtof? Or just instal newest dji firmware 1070?
I use wtfos on my V2 goggles and vista/air unit. You don't need it on the O3/goggles 2 stuff. Lots of reasons OSD may not be working, I would suggest asking in one of the fpv groups
Good comparison, thanks!! 🙏
One correction though- the stock V2 antennas are also bi-linear, not lhcp.
Thanks! Oh wow I actually didn't know that, I always thought they were dual band omni, thank you!
@@kddrones yeah, i was surprised as well since that's whats circling around! Then i tried attaching a either a linear or a RHCP antenna to my vista, compared the results to my LHCP - and lo and behold, the linear actually provided the best results! (marginally, but still). I became suspicious and then found this video which confirms it. Silly hobby :)
czcams.com/video/8wIcYHwoh0Q/video.html
Fascinating, thank you!
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I have the goggles 3 and I tried out a V2 and I thought the v2 view was better because I did not have the adjustable lenses, it was just a single screen. Maybe it is just how my eyes work and maybe the V3 is better for others but I was disappointed.
It's definitely a personal preference which you find most comfortable and nicest to use. The V2 goggles do have one screen per eye though, it's not one single screen, same as the V1, the goggles 2 and goggles 3.
I will say I also don't like the goggles 3, I tried them and I don't like the hinge forehead thing. It's really annoying to adjust and you can't do it with one hand. Goggles 2 with an aftermarket foam are my favourite overall
Iflight crystals are not a good patch, they are a super low profile, portable patch. TrueRC antennas will always kill the iFlight patch, as youxll have proper satellite dishes on your head, vs the iFlight is literally a tiny foil stamp.
If you'd tested TrueRC on both goggles, you would find the V2's out ranged G2's again, as you did with stock antennas
I would say the crystals are pretty good. They give a decent improvement over stock antennas with the added benefit of not having to take them off. There's absolutely no way I'm putting on and taking off the trueRC on the V2 every time I get them out of my bag, that's just completely impractical for my work. That's why I'm testing each setup how I would actually use it.
You are right though the trueRC for V2 are a bit better but it's not that big a difference in my experience and since they're too big it's an easy decision. The ones for G2 however are really small so they don't need to be taken off
@kddrones to me, the difference is being able to dive into a building on TrueRC, and completely blacking out on iFlight antennas...it's higher stakes in the concrete, but that's where the differences keep you in the air. That said, i pack my v2's away with X-2airs and never take em off 👍 I appreciate your testing , done a bunch myself too, and still recommending V2 goggles for most FPV pilots, and Integras if you fly alot of plastic drones
@kddrones the crystals are def higher gain than the stock antennas, because of the directionality, but that doesnt make them good quality antennas. IFlight's fairly low gain and narrow field is a big dissapointment coming from VAS and TrueRC who both utilize PepperBoxes in their patch antennas. Instead of a tiny foil stamp (iFlight) you get multiple wave forms in a satellite dish (TrueRC) The result is the X2-Airs give you extremely high gain in a 60 degree cone, but if you fall out of that cone you still have 120 degree cone at medium-high gain to fall back on, before dropping to omnis. Tripple Feed tends to be the highest gain, but 30degree field, means you have to point the goggles, like a sniper rifle, with the steavie wonder head tracking, or rely on the omnis when you fall out of center. Portability matters, but it's my least concern when i'm in the air 👍
Fair enough, if they work well for you that's great! For me most of the flying I do is commercial and being portable and convenient is a major priority, and I haven't personally seen much better results than with the crystal patches. I'm not usually diving into places blind, bit for your use I totally get it!
Completely fair, sounds like the best ones for you! For me I'm happy to move my head a bit and the smaller size is essential
G2 puts out video via usbc into DJI app!
It does yes! And that's great for someone just wanting to watch along, but for work I need HDMI out and also something a bit more professional looking than just a phone or tablet when a director wants to watch the feed. I think Cosmostreamer with raspberry pi zero could work well though
@@kddrones yeah fair enough, what about screen share from the phone?
I haven't tried that but even if it did work that's an additional step, I'll still have to be connected to a phone and it's way too slow to setup, I need to be able to have it ready to go as quickly as possible when someone wants video feed
Motion controller2 is great fun with the goggles, don't have to use the pro controller. (much cheaper too).
Yeah sure it's fun for beginners, but you have much less control that with a normal radio
At first, I thought the V2's were on the right, and I was super impressed with how the bit rate was so much higher on the Goggles 2...then I listened to your conclusion and saw that the V2's were actually on the left! DUH! LOL 🤷♂🤦♂That's where I was shocked the bit rate was nearly double on the older V2 goggles for the tougher parts of the flight! Kinda amazing, as I own those, but never wanted to buy the overpriced Goggles 2 (mostly because of POOR FIT and no analog option!) and can't stand the rear battery pack for the Integra. What does one do when that battery pack fails? Buy a new set of goggles? Stupid idea to have your goggles life hinging on a battery packs life! You know that pack is gonna eventually die, right?!!!
Can you imagine how far a pilot would have flown with the HDZero goggles even using their 1000 mw VTX?! Haahaa! They wouldn't have got far, that for sure! A great flight path with nice low to ground flying! That system is truly a one trick pony - Racing - But, I'll give them credit, they are the very best at flying in an open field looping around gates! Racers rejoice! :)
💯Really impressive test! One of the very best I've ever seen. Surprising results. I'd love to see a PART 2, with you doing the exact same flight plan, but with the DJI 03 in each quad. I'm super interested, and I'm sure others would be too, to see if the 03 improves the results and the Googles 2 turn the table on the V2 goggles.
One side note: DJI - PULL YOUR HEAD out of yer A$$, and start naming products completely unique names and stop making them so damn close to other products you sell! Goggles V2 and Goggles 2 - SERIOUSLY?!!! 🤬 🤣
Really appreciate your comments! I agree with a lot of that and I definitely see why people prefer the V2 over the G2, for me there are a few key things (size, weight, interface, faster boot up time, no need to rebind when using vista and O3).
I will definitely do the same tests again with O3 on both goggles I'm also interested to see the results.
We're never going to get exactly what we want from DJI, it's like apple, they think they know better! 😅
V2 screen you can see the pixels clear as day like a magnified phone screen ,, you cannot compare V2 too G2 ,, V2 is 1200 mw G2 is 800mw .. bid differance in range an penetration ,, but the view .. less pixilation the G2 sony oled screens are going to be hard to beat ,,, I have both and my V2's set in the case collecting dust .. the image and field of view .. there is no comparison ,, V2 have a large box goggle type view which freestyle pilots hate ,,,, the G2 have smaller tighter field of view for more experienced pilots UPDATE vista with Goggles V2 a must vista sucks on goggles 2 .. 03 unit with goggles 2 excellent the best
The G2 screens are really nice. The vista does have lower output power on the G2, but it's not that much worse and you can get similar range by using the trueRC patches
The new Vista / Walk snail antennas are crappy
Interesting, have you got a good comparison or some antenna testing for them? I've found them to be the same in my experience
G2 Horrendous for both O3 and vistas!! V2 fits better on face plus both Vistas and O3 perform better on V2. What does that mean…it means dji better make a better goggle when the G3 ever comes out.
I definitely understand what you mean! The G2 really don't fit many people they need to do better on the optics and face fit. However, for me they're actually not that bad and with a different foam they fit pretty well and I can see everything fine, I know for some like you they just don't fit at all and that sucks. When you say O3 performs better on V2 what do you mean?, Have you got a side-by-side comparison for the O3 on G2 vs V2? People have been asking me so I'll probably do that video next
@@kddrones you deleted my reply. Boo. Obviously getting paid off by DJI
Oh man! I definitely didn't delete it, I was replying and now it's gone. I've still got it in my email notification though so here's what you said:
"it's as clear as day. The latency of 03 on G2 is horrendous. The lowest latency is in 4K/100 fps setting which means if you are using 03 as the action cam...that's the format of your video. Any other video setting introduces even higher latency. However on the V2 the latency is lower on all frame rates due to reduced resolution (820p) which is fantastic enough! Also not the latency of vistas is higher on G2 compared to V2. These are facts not just based on scientific data (see Mad Tech videos and charts) but also on real world experience by myself and others."
For me I don't notice the latency, it's completely fine but I get some people are more sensitive to it. The smaller size and lower weight, better screens and interface and ease of use with the G2 make them better for me. I don't use O3 to record so I can have it in the lowest latency setting and I can't notice the difference between that and my Vista's on V2 goggles, just a much better image. I definitely understand your point though and for many that's a deal-breaker. I just wanted to show a proper test of the vista across both goggles
I think if I was getting paid off by DJI then I would have got the G2 a little bit sooner too 😅
@@kddrones weird!! 🤣🤣🤣
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