I know for a fact that a lot of dentists do recommend deep cleaning not because of the patient's need but because they have a big pocket. Its a shame. I am a dentist myself and you have no idea how many of my patients tell me that they have been told they need deep cleaning which in fact they did not. Yes the patients must be informed and always get a second opinion. Thanks for the video.
@@ColeighColeWee Ok, not every patient needs deep cleaning, however if you have not had a regular cleaning for a long time and you are not good with oral hygiene you may qualify for deep cleaning. Moreover, some dental offices are being greedy and tell the patients they need deep cleaning for the sake of more money. So, if you have periodontal disease which is the defined as deep pockets with inflamed gums and lots of dental plaque (calculus) you are a candidate for deep cleaning. yes, if you do a deep cleaning then you need to visit the office every 4 months for cleaning to maintain (periodontal maintance) the oral health of your gums and teeth. Good luck.
I have no swelling, bleeding, pain or inflamed gums and I brush and floss all the time. The last two dentists thought I had dental insurance and said I had gum disease and needed surgery. They didn't know my medical policy only covers two teeth cleanings per year. NOTHING else. They are both crooks. I didn't know until I watched this video that scaling and planing can cause damage. WOW. Thank you.
Most dentist are crooks. And it doesn't matter how prestigious the facility. I went to a very prestigious dental institution and my wallet was cleaner than my teeth. The insurance company was kicking back a lot of procedures due to it being unnecessary. "Plan Frequency Limitation" it is called. I had to pay that and trusted the dentist and turned out my dentist and his students were practicing unnecessary procedures for educational purposes at my expense.
@@anonymousf454 Thanks for the info. It was actually worse than I described....I retrieved my dental records and found out they were making fun of my language. Claiming I spoke in slang and in poor grammar, essentially racial slurs and these are foreigners speaking broken English!
I went to one of those dental chain places for 3 years before I realized they were only ripping me off . Every 6 months I would go in for the cleaning and was told I needed the deep cleaning again. I’m not a dentist so I didn’t know. But they knew. They kept showing me x-rays to verify me needing a deep cleaning…but I didn’t know what the hell I was looking at. It’s amazing to me that they expect a lay person to understand and interpret a dental x-ray. Recently found out from a private practice dentist that the infection I had was lower than the level that they were cleaning, so all it did was make my teeth feel clean but the infection was still there. Never once was I offered any antibiotics or even an extraction or a root canal. Just every 6 months I was called in to help a dentist pay for his new Mercedes.
I have similar situation. One month ago I did exams at a dental clinic, the doc said I need deep cleaning and then referred me to a specialist. I had consolation appointment with the specialist, she examed my mouth and measured the "pockets", it turned out the pockets have become much deeper than the first exam one month ago, changed from 5 to 8 which surprised me! I was taking good care of my teeth cleaning during the month, how come they became such worse? I asked which teeth are pockets 8, she let me look at the computer screen my self! she also answered other questions impatiently. And She's not gently when did the exam, I was in pain and my teeth were bleeding. Not good experience. I'm hesitate if go ahead do the deep cleaning.
Highly recommend a second opinion- I was told I had periodontitis and needed a deep cleaning. Got a second opinion and was told my gums look good and I only needed a standard cleaning- mind you it was only 8 months after my last cleaning which made me question the first dentist telling me I needed a deep cleaning and also my wisdom teeth(which doesn’t bother me) pulled. I don’t recommend chain dentist.
I totally agree! I had a Dentist said i needed a deep clean after I scene anouther Dentist 3 months apart for a cleaning. I got up left the office because they were very unethical and said I had cavities as well. Went for second opinion 6 months without telling them any background and my teeth were 100% healthy no isuues! I hate to say since covid Dental office are hurting for money so Be careful.
Despite of what some dentists say, scaling and root planning is one of more painful procedures and I had 2 done so far, spaced out about 15 years apart. I think the initial one caused receding gumlines for one tooth, so there is definitely risk that the gum doesn't reattach optimally. For younger generations, there is ZERO excuse not to do an excellent job with daily home dental care. When I was a kid, they didn't even invent Sonicare yet. Nowadays, you can get a Sonicare and good water flosser for less than $100 combined.
painful? no way, not with local local anesthesia. I had mine done two days, half of the mouth and it was not painful at all. Honestly, I was getting sleepy since it took like an hr 30 minutes.
@@mrcalipride Local anesthesia is "localized" as the name implies. You can still feel pain, sensitivity and discomfort where you have exposed area of teeth with nerve endings.
Thankyou. My dentist wants me to do deep cleaning, but I have no problem with gum. Luckily, I rejected the deep cleaning. " Doing deep cleaning on healthy gum can cause gum recession "
I need to get an SRP! I went to a private office, and the hygienist who recommended it was great! She and the dentist went above and beyond and showed me my X-rays, and took the time to educate me and explain the reasonings why! If your provider isn’t explaining the reasonings and showing you your X-rays as proof as to why you need something done, that’s a red flag whether you’re at a private of corporate office!
One of the upsides to having Medicaid dental insurance, if you go to a county dental office (as opposed to the corporate offices that take Medicaid), is that the dentists are never going to recommend procedures you really don't need, because there's no profit in it for them, and the dentists are just on salary and not pressured to up sell. Unfortunately, going to a private practice, even if it isn't a corporate office, it usually feels like walking onto a used car sales lot.
I have 4,5,6 pockets 4 months ago. I go a scaling and planing done the first week of March on all 4 quadrants. I'm at 1s/2s now except one pocket near a crown that is a 3 due to a bit of gum damage. For those of you needing this done, I would recommend going to a periodontist rather than having it done at a regular clinic. It's more expensive. (1300 for me vs. 1080 at my reg dentist for all 4 quadrants), but they are specialists that do this on a daily basis and have far more experience and yield far better results than a general dentist. I did a good bit of research trying to figure out if I needed this, and came across a lot of people saying if you have 5s/6s general dentists will do it, but that it was still preferred to just make the jump to a Perio specialist. It's a bit brutal the first day few days after. Your gums will be tender as hell, and you'll be very sensitive to cold, heat, etc, but after having both sides done thurs and fri, and brushing/rinsing gently with my waterpick before swishing chlorohexidine for a couple days, I was good as new by the following monday. The biggest contributor to my recovery imo besides the deep cleaning is using a waterpick EVERY SINGLE night on 4-6 (I started low because my gums were bleeding) and also swapping to a better Electric tooth brush rather than flossing and a manual toothbrush. The waterpick is amazing, and cleans far better than flossing alone (though I still floss as needed to get stubborn stuck bits. I cannot recommend it more highly. I got a 40 dollar Oral B pro 1000 and a Waterpick Aquarius for 49 dollars on Amazon. 100% worth making the investment and taking the time to do this nightly. The Waterpick only needs to be done just before bed so that your plaque doesn't have time to harden and stick to your teeth, so it's literally 90 seconds a night to prevent ever needing to have this procedure done.
Totally agree. I recently bought a water flosser to augment my Sonicare and daily flossing. I regret not getting one sooner, it's amazing how much little bit of food debris it can flush out. I end up buying one for my parents and another for my suitcase. The only thing is water flosser takes up a lot of room in one's suitcase and the portable ones aren't as powerful. Also, Waterpik has a cheap battery power flosser that vibrates up and down, and it's amazing at dislodging stuck food debris.
Thank you for this video. Just went to the dentist and they told me I had periodontal disease. She was calling off a bunch of numbers while probing, mostly over 4 and a couple of 5’s. She said I need a scaling to save my teeth. She also said she was surprised my teeth didn’t wiggle more with those probe numbers. But I got free X-rays, a full complete exam by the hygienist, and the MD Dentist. I am getting a molar pulled next week.. abscess with swelling infection. But I’m so glad I made the decision to start taking care of my teeth again last week, it’s been long enough.
My English is ESL so be patient. Thanks My father who is 92 years old and I believe he went dentist may be less than 10 times during his life? However, I know for sure he never had regular cleaning his teeth and never done deep cleanings. I do remember when he was around he was around 58years old one of dentist told him, he need deep cleanings and it need clowns for few teeth. Guess what, he didn't take that dentist advice and he treated his own instinct. He brushed almost twice or three times a day and flushed and gaggled with hydrozoan proxied. How do I know it? Because he force me to do as he dose. Anyway. How he is 92 years his teeth has coffee stained and few teethes have fillings. I m start to wondering you guys (dentists) recommending people regular teeth cleaning and deep cleaning stuff really do keep teeth healthy? What about my father? He is 92 years old, his teeth is in good condition. When his dentist told him he need to deep cleaning that was 34 years ago. According to his dentist my father should lost all the teeth by the time now. But I still see his teeth in his mouth. Is it some kind of miracle? Guess what? I am 55 years old now and I follow my father's way. I brush 3 to 4 minuets two three times every day and gaggle with hydrazone peroxide for whitening teeth. My teeth feel health and strong. Last year I went a dentist for regular cleaning, my dentist told me I need to deep cleaning. So, I came home and looking at my teeth through mirror carefully, I don't really see the serious level of for doing deep cleanings. I asked him, how much will coast and he told me $1,400 . Guess what. At this point, I can not trust any one of dentist in the world and even you guys. I will repost when I become 92 years from now and show you how many teeth I lost. Just wait here! 😁
I went to a dent that offered free exrays and cleaning. And was told I needed scaling and a deep cleaning. So I went to a periodontist and was told my gums are in good shape.
Most of them are not honest and just want to rip you off. They offered you “free” x-rays so that they can trick you and rip you off on deep cleaning. They didn’t tell you that deep cleaning does more damage to your gums and nerves.
Same, except I let them charge me a butt load of money and do everything they wanted to do. It was one of those places that finances in office. Went through the billing and they were trying to charge me $150 for a toothbrush, just added into the loan. I did at least have the sense to have them take all the unnecessary crap off. Delta Dental 🙄
It shouldn’t be subjective if you have measurements of recession at least 4 or larger get a deep cleaning on those areas only . Otherwise stick with regular cleanings . I found my last hygienist to be over aggressive on the cleanings . I began to fear her .
Yep. Everytime I go to the dentist they’re always trying to upsell me on something and recently just went in for a cleaning and they told me that I have to come back for deep cleaning. I go every three to six months for a cleaning. How do I need a deep cleaning it makes no sense. I’m getting a second opinion.
I don’t think that gun disease is something subjective. Bleeding upon probing, deep pocking and bone loss are the indications of periodontal disease. Bone loss and tartar buildup can be seen on x-rays, deep picking can be measured by prob and bleeding can be seen visually. There can be disagreement on the severity of periodontal disease, but it can definitely be diagnosed by dental professionals.
I just experienced everything you just said… the hygienist, and MD dentist pulled out X-rays, pamphlets, and explained to me in Full detail everything, and made sure I understood the condition I had let my mouth get in by not visiting a dentist for years. I have no insurance so I really believe they gave my a good price for a deep clean because they care.
I went to the same dentist for 25 years twice a year. Never had any problems but 2 cavities. Went to a new dentist first thing she asked without looking at me or X-rays was have you ever had a deep cleaning. They immediately said you need this and it’ll be 1k. Felt like I was at car dealership I got regular cleaning and left. You don’t just take the opinion of 1 person without knowing them and giving them your $$$ without trust.
Went to a "chain" dental office for prophy, during the pandemic, and the hygienist - let me tell you - all he did was a few swipes here and there, ignoring the hard to reach spots, and then he just brushed my teeth with an electric toothbrush. To be fair, my teeth are well taken care of but there are still areas of visible plaque accumulation in tight crevices between the teeth. How do you know which locations have good hygienists and dentists that do detailed prophylaxis? I've always had a hard time finding a good practice for my cleanings. It's so frustrating. And it's even more frustrating because I cannot come to admit in their face that they did a lousy job with their cleaning and would like them to keep cleaning the spots they missed because I fear that they may end up damaging my teeth if they are vindictive at all, which, while probably rare, I really don't want to take any chances on. Are there some sort of secret club that dentists and hygienists know of to connect each other to highly rated prophy experts?
I went to two dentists in the last 4 months both had good reviews on google and one of them had 5 star reviewS, (I’m sure now that those reviews are fake)the first one did a very poor job in cleaning my teeth and left tartar in the back teeth, the dentist spent a minute with me and didn’t say anything that is useful .. same BS. So I looked for another dentist to get those teeth cleaned again and again she did a poor job and didn’t clean the area I told her about, the last dentist was a chain dental office. I got frustrated. My gum is receding in back, I don’t have any bleeding and I don’t have red gum like I see online, it’s just a dark yellow line going black around the tooth and I now have pain in one of those teeth. I use an electric tooth brush, I brush my teeth multiple times a day depending on where I am, if I’m in the house all day I try to brush after each meal and if I’m outside I brush twice or thrice a day, I use a hydrogen peroxide mouth wash, I floss at night.. I don’t eat sweets or candy cuz I don’t like sugary food.... but when the dentist does a poor job on that 6 month routine cleaning and that tartar keeps building up it starts to cause problems and the dentist-who didn’t do his job initially- will start “milking” you for more money. Now I have to look for another dentist and I’m thinking about going to my old dentist in a different State that I used to live in which is an hour flight.. he was top notch, honest and caring, I want to see him and take care of everything there and be done. Dentists are like other professionals they want to make money, the run a business and unfortunately very few actually care about their patients.. some are good but the majority are thieves. My old dentist that I used to go to when I lived in a different State had his own private practice, he takes the time to listen, he doesn’t rush, he works with his patients and only recommends what you really need, I have never heard of a single person who complained about him and almost all of his patients were referrals because of his great reputation, everyone at my old job and their families used his services. That’s the kind of dentists we want, not those thieves who work with their staff to rip you off by doing poor work to get you to come back and recommend what you don’t need.
Hi, I'm a hygienist (from the UK tho), you definitely should voice your concerns to whoever is doing your cleaning, they wont be able to be vindictive and damage your teeth. I often hear from patients I see for the first time that it was the most thorough clean they've had. If you feel odd about saying smth to the hygienists face, maybe make a comment like 'that was quick', or 'you're finished already' so they dont think it's okay to do a lousy job in the hard to reach areas. Also make a comment before they start of how you've noticed build up in certain areas. :)
Thank you so much! A few years ago my dentists suddenly started pushing this and water picks . But their vibes to me just screamed bad faith. Hearing you say you have a skepticism as well made me really feel like I’ve got a honest explanation and that this cleaning might actually be useful for my remaining teeth.
can we get some kind of regulation vs these dentists that do permanent damage to healthy teeth? Something has to happen because a very high amount of dentists do this. When I chipped the filling one of my teeth, I went to a dentist nearby to fix it. This dentist told me that the tooth had severe decay and needed to be pulled and replaced with a bridge. I went to get a 2nd opinion and the 2nd dentist said they can fix it with a filling, which they did. However, they recommended a list of other things including deep cleaning, crowns and fillings on every other upper tooth. The other thing is, the filling that chipped was from a visit I had 3 years ago when that dentist told me I needed a few fillings. I found out after that he thinned out some other teeth which would appear a bit darker on the X-Ray. Why he did this? Likely to try and scam me by saying that the teeth showed dark areas on an xray and that they needed crowns or extractions. A lot of dentists will try to pull some scam thing and drill teeth they aren't supposed to. You have to be more upfront with these frauds. We need stricter government regulations on them.
This makes me think of the last time I went to the dentist and had a tooth removed. I was soooooooooo naive. I just assumed that I needed everything they charged me for. Turns out they included some COMPLETELY OPTIONAL Stellalife products that I absolutely didn't need. They included a mouth rinse and a pain & swelling gel. That rinse was $40 and the gel was $45. I wasted $85.
Kinda interesting that a professional who loves placing implants talks about people getting “ripped off” for treating periodontal disease vs treating for titanium deficiency.
I had a deep cleaning coupled with laser gum treatment at the same time. Is this common in the dental world? Also, a small part of my gum was left dark from the laser, I guess it burnt. How long does this burnt area take for it to go back to normal pink? Thanks!
Don't know what to do: I've been told repeatedly that my teeth and gums and "very healthy". I have been told I've got "some recession" but not to worry just yet. Went in for a cleaning today and they sprung the "Scaling and Root Planing" on me just for my back molars. They said there's been some bone loss since last year and the gums are pulling away from the tooth creating deeper pockets. And with probing (sticking the metal tip on my gum) there was bleeding. The numbers - just back by my molars are like 4 or 5 or something like that. So they did NOT clean any of my teeth but instead told me they'd submit to my insurance to get me set up for this deep cleaning. Feels fishy. I mean, I know there's some deeper pocketing back there by the molars but I just never heard of this before until I just walked in for a routine cleaning after being told several appointments ago that I really take good care of my teeth. ?? Any thoughts?
Same thing just happened to me. I’ve had gum recession due to the way that I brush. They told me my gums were swollen but I didn’t see any swelling on the pictures. They did X-rays no cleaning. Told me the deep cleaning will cost me about 600.00 out of pocket and 3 visits. I will be going for a second opinion.
Same here. We moved so just had our first visit with our new dentist and suddenly I've went from good healthy teeth to "early periodontic gum disease." I've never been diagnosed with gingivitis, which supposedly happens before this. 🤔 They want to do root planing and scaling on my teeth and then see me every 3-4 months instead of 6-8 months in order to "checkup" on it. If little to no improvement they will keep doing the process or recommend surgery (cut the gum into flaps - expose the full root for cleaning) to go deeper to "fix" it. Maybe this issue is legit and came up out of the blue, but I'm not feeling any pain and not seeing swelling either.. I faithfully clean my teeth and haven't changed the way I clean my teeth. Seems sketchy. 🧐🤔🤔🤔 I'm definitely going to get a second opinion before I agree to root planing and scaling!
@@angelatandy8202 that sounds seriously suspicious! Get a second or third opinion! I had a dentist nearly ruin one of my teeth over drilling it two times for a filling, then placed a crow on the tooth that actually became infected from over drilling, I lived in pain for a year!!! All I needed was a filling! By the grace of god I found a great dentist to fix it with root canal and crown but I hate going to the dentist now. Had another dentist last year try to tell me I needed a tooth pulled and get a $3000 implant! Something seemed off so I went for a second opinion and found out there is literally nothing wrong with my tooth!!! Try to only go to to dentists that have a lot of high reviews. The two shady dentists barely had any reviews. It’s a shame people are so evil and greedy that they will harm others to make more money!
Only within the past year have I even ever heard of "deep cleaning". I'm 70. I don't think I need it. Twice (because MY insurance mustn't be one dentists like working with) I've tried two different Gentle Dental offices. I do not believe I need all the work they say I need. My Doctor told them to leave me alone for three months because of other issues. I don't think I can bear to go back.
I had one deep cleaning done....NEVER again. Within 2 weeks I started getting an abscess above one tooth that had a root canal done many years earlier. My dentist told me it was a incomplete root canal and I would need to go to a periodontal specialist to have the root canal redone....I never went, that was 4 years ago. I treated the abscess myself and its never come back. I also am not returning to any dentist for cleanings, I use baking soda and peroxide to gently brush my gums and teeth, you'll never get plaque again and my gums are pink and healthy, with no bleeding. The only way I will ever return to a dentist is if I'm in excruciating pain and I will only allow an extraction.
It's hard to find skilled dentists and hygienists unfortunately. It's the same thing as going to a restaurant honestly, some places have cooks that just cannot make the same ingredients taste good while another works miracles.
I feel like a lot of dentists are unethical. Aspen Dental is one of them. They will charge for mouth rinse per tooth and an oral b i series toothbrush.
It happen to me last week, went to dentist chain and after X-ray say I need a deep clean which is cost $1,000.00. My insurance is not cover deep cleaning. I told the dentist I just need a regular cleaning, I can not pay that kind of $ and I think the dentist is not happy what I wanted. Never coming back again.
My buddy's teeth are pretty well hammered as he has a family history of problem. He also has recently acquired Diabetes................which could be from his teeth bacteria. Interesting.
I was pondering the methods of deep cleaning with laser tech to the standard technical methodology of mental tools that are used to remove tartar from the teeth when a server case of periodontal is present would it be a better choice if a person is told that an extraction is needed because the theeth are too loose and might fall out during a scaling and planning ?shouldn’t people with this type of problem be considered Lazer treatment considering that there still is some bone foundation and more than 3/4 of teeth that are strong enough to be maintained ? Or is it so bad off that periodontal deases is the end of being able to maintain oral and healthy blood does keeping up with a healthy heart have no chance of periodontal present in the mouth?
Basically you wish for a good Dentist who practices Integrity, not a local fraud Dentist who's out there to steal your money to have you in pain, to make you come back for more Dentistry. So many Dentists out there just for the Hustle. I don't wish to meet another Hustling Dentist ever, which is so common these days. Lots of Dentists choose to become Hustlers. They should make a film "Hustler 3"
Thanks so much for this video what I dont get my dentist said i needed a deep cleaning cause she said she saw a lot of tartar on my back teeth why do they have to do all four quadrants on my mouth for that and wont that damage the healthy tissue on the other three quadrants im sorry there is something so horrific about a scam dentist we only get one mouth and set of teeth and the thought that they would permanently damage someone mouth just to make extra money is so disgusting to me
@1:51 Once you see pockets around 4 or 5 or 6mm, that may not be indicative of an active gum disease right? It may be the result of past gum disease where the gum recession and bone loss cannot be reversed, isn't it? Does blood during probing then confirms that there is an active gum disease? What if there is no bleeding? I hope to get some education/clarification about this question. Thanks.
I’ve had a 6 pocket on one of my teeth for over 30 years and after regular cleanings twice a year. Recently, they said I needed a deep cleaning after just having had my regular cleaning at the same place and the dentist went out of his way to tell me I had very healthy gums. ???
@@pauletteschiowitz8989 I don't understand you about the dentist telling you you had healthy gums but need deep cleaning? My gums and teeth improved tremendously after i started using the Sonic care electric toothbrush and also chewing xylitol gums. The gaps of my teeth actually became smaller and some of the shaky teeth no longer shake. So I realised that gum recession can actually be reversed. My gums and teeth are so much healthier now after more than a year on this protocol. Even the dentist was surprised.
@4:57 Why does research show gum recession happens only in normal gum/teeth without gum disease? If it happens to normal teeth then it should happen in gum/teeth with gum disease. It does not make sense. For me I feel that once I started on doing deep cleaning over the last few years, there seems no turning back with gum recession. I feel that my gums just get lesser and lesser. It is frustrating because on one hand, I have to have the plaque and tartar removed regularly, but also it seems to cause further recession. I am so frustrated. Caught between a rock and a hard place.
Did they give you anesthetic I was told i need deep cleaning but am hearing that am not in for it and i have to pay from my pocket because i uave no health card
Hmmm i went to my dentist for the last time, they did a deep clean. I moved to new area of the state and my new dds said you need a deep cleaning. I said, me dont think so, just had one 9 mos ago. He said, oh i didnt know that but i think you still need one. Btw, im a recovering addict and when i was on meth my teeth and gums got peridontitus (spelling?) So even after a deep clean my gums dont change for the better. So me thinks i not do it againeth. Im lucky to be alive and only missing one molar. I have all my wisdom teeth with zero issues. I get regular cleanings every 6 mos. for 47 yrs minus the 4 i was high lol
Dentists are purely money driven and one told me that I need a deep clean in every quandrant of mouth. I said no thanks. Started using xylitol after meals. the usual Brush, floss, listerine and ACT. My gums are pink and don't bleed anymore. Xylitol can REVERSE decay. Its gold standard in Finland and other countries in the world. No teeth problems for 4 years now since I started.
yes. no reason to think dentists are different than plumbers, car mechanics, even physicians. there are good ones and bad ones. ones who are ethical and others who aren't.
@@atarbuck3452 Listerine targets bacteria that causes plaque and gingivitis and ACT restores enamel and reverses decay and freshens breath, Its part of Dr ellie 5 part total teeth care system. I swear it works, it was developed by an british dentist who practiced in Europe
@@user-be5qg7mr1s ahhhh I see. Ive had any bleeding. I don’t see plaque. I’m sure there’s a small amount that can be removed through a regular cleaning and my gums receded years ago due to how I brush. My previous dentist already knew this. He retired and I had to get another dentist who recommended a deep cleaning. They didn’t even bother giving me my regular annual cleaning that’s covered 100%. They just sent me on my way with an expensive treatment plan. I’m not sure when Ill be going back.
The modern Hippocratic oath: I shall do by my patients as I would be done by. I shall work with my profession to improve the quality of medical care and of public health but I shall not let any lessor public or professional considerstion interfere with my primary committment to provide the best and most appropriate care to each of my patients.
With no inspection, my wife was told by Gold Coast Dental in Brea, CA that recent pregnancy/child birth is a good reason to get deep cleaning. Is this true? We went ahead with it, paying upfront of $1,000, because our insurance office has closed for the day, and never got any promised reimbursements because they said the insurance company actually insisted we pay additional $330 for their rate. So cash patients only pay $1,000 and patients with my insurance has to pay $1,330 out of pocket after the insurance paid the dental office $527? How is this right? Sounds like a big scam. I already reported this to the BBB and the dental board. Nothing much I can do.
Start at 1.11 Walking with Enoch Thank you. I just left the dentist. I went for a regular cleaning but he refused to do it and recommended a deep cleaning because I have bacteria around my gums. He said that my brushing is good but I don’t floss. He is right. But I don’t have any pain or bleeding. He also didn’t prob my gums and only did the x ray. I think I’ll get a second opinion. He also said that a reg cleaning wouldn’t do me any good because it’d only clean the surface of my teeth, which are already cleaned from my regular brushing. Wondering if he’s telling me the truth.
@@alexat2854 so you didn't need the deep scaling cleaning. Sounds like another way of them trying to make money off of us. And a classic example of medical practitioners taking advantage of patients and providing UNNEEDED TREAFMENTS!
Actually how many types of deep cleans are there? I have deep cleaning done which takes about 30 mins. But are they longer ones? I know some of my teeth get really sensitive with this clean (I have gum recession due to periodontal disease but it is under control). I know some dentists do numbing injections. My hygienist uses numbing gel for me and it is bearable. But I am wondering are there more than one type of deep cleaning? (Not talking about LANAP) Is root planing also same as deep cleaning? It is so confusing.
my dentist wants to do a deep cleaning and put in chemo treatments in many of my teeth but my xrays looked okay to me and my gums never bleed when I brush or floss so I am getting a 2nd opinion from a periodontist. The dentist wanted to charge almost $3,000 for the deep cleaning. He said some of my pockets in the back were a 7, some were 5's, etc. Idk about this dentist.
I had a cleaning for the first time in a while due to not having insurance. Said I needed a filling for the beginning of a cavity between two teeth. Didn’t mention demineralization just went right to a procedure and wanted me to pay in advance. What are your thoughts.
My dentist retired so I went to a new dentist and he recommends a deep clean every two years. I feel that’s unnecessary especially since I’ve been going for my cleanings twice a year consistently since I was 19 and I am 51. I have had a deep clean once some years back but every 2 years seems excessive…thoughts?
Hello how are you ! Can you help me with a important question I’m wondering, if I need a Root canel, is it best to get a deep cleaning first ? Also how long does it take to heal from a deep cleanse on average ? Thank you for all you do!!
I can’t believe any American would ever pay the USA prices for dental work. It is out of this world . Let’s just ask this dentist. How much is a zirconium dental crown in your office?
I have server gum disease I consulted 2 dentists offices one recommended full mouth debridement and the other other recommended a deep cleaning. Which is better and are they the same?
Stick my gums with a probe and it bleeds 🤔 Dentists are so corrupt. I stopped going to dentist 25 years. Sick and tired of their lies. Always telling me I have cavities and that I need teeth pulled, that I have gum disease, etc. nearly 50 and I have never had a tooth pulled, not a one cavity, and any problem I've ever had usually go away in two weeks or less. I brush teeth maybe three times a week. If insurance didn't exist (and dentists were honest) we'd probably only need about 10-15% of what we have today. Same with doctors but probably closer to 25%.
@@hardbodytraining100 There are many ways to obtain fresh breath withouts the likes of Crest, Colgate, Listerine, etc. Try eating an apple, an orange, ginger, fennel seeds, etc.
I have moderate periodontitis with mostly 3 and 4 probing and some 5. My periodontis gives me appointments every 5 months and I think it is abusive because I take much care, I brush two to three times a day and floss after every meal. I am worried that deep cleaning twice a year could do more harm than good. How often do you recommend to someone with moderate periodontal disease? Also after the pandemic because I didnt visit for two years she did a very deep-deep cleaning requiring anasthesia ( not the normal cleaning maintenance but she said that two years was too long) and she did the four quadrants at once, which I think is unappropriate, all quadrant at once with many syringe anasthesia shots in the gums, it was painful. It is normally made in two appointments isn it? . I still I think I didn't need it but maybe she needed the 500 Euros she charged me. Normally maintenance cleaning for periodontal disease is 80Euros.
Was deep cleaning painful. I was told i need periodontal treatment. They have to do deep cleaning and they will give me anesthesia before and they will do ¼ of the mouth each time and it cost more then €300
@A - R It hurts more thr deeper your pockets are because they have to go I'm really deep to clean your teeth. The less deeper the less pain. Hopefully this helps
I pretty much stopped brushing my teeth at 29. I’m 44 now, I brushed may be 30/ 40 times in the last 15 years, and I don’t have any cavities and my teeth look pretty good. I had 7 or 8 visits to the dentist / hygienist since then and perhaps 6 or 7 prophy cleanings. I floss a few times per month or so.
@@Shanksy007 Yeah, it's all genetics and diet. Some people's saliva is naturally more basic or their mouth does not have certain strains of bacteria while others the opposite. And what you eat definitely contributes to this as well. Edit: Disclaimer I am not a dental professional this is just what I've educated myself on through information that's available publicly online.
found out it isn't. It is just (glorified) mouth wash sprayed into gums. A way for dentists to scam money out of people, never get that done because it is not covered by any insurances
Sad to say but, watch your pockets, [financially] Seems dentist or the "industry" of dentist will embellish or even Lie for profit. I know it's is a business and there is money to be made, but come on. Lying is the worst in any aspect of life.
I went to the periodontist last week he pricked my gums and said he didn’t see anything wrong only a little gum disease, he said I should schedule an appointment to get a deep cleaning I haven’t done that yet but after reading these comments I’m so scared right now, but I need the fresh breath confidence, what do I do now? 🤦♀️
Why don’t you just get to the point and say that you want all your patients to get “deep cleaning” (read: more money). Deep cleaning damages your nerves and gums, so it’s a big NO. It’s so unfortunate that dental plans are privatized and people are getting ripped off. Dental plan should be controlled by government, so that way a dentist wouldn’t care about profit and they would be more honest and ethical. Also, don’t trust anyone when their first sentence in their video starts to “give them thumbs up”.
Both types of "cleaning" are unnecessary if one has healthy microbiome. Keep your mouth healthy by good nutrition, don't eat junk... And forget about the cleaning scam!
What are My probing depth ? 4-5 do I have bleeding 🩸 in my probing ? can you show me my x-rays! Get a second opinion Can you also talk about invasilogn for adult 45 years old pros n cons any damage for teeth 🦷 bones 🦴 with invsasilgn?
I know for a fact that a lot of dentists do recommend deep cleaning not because of the patient's need but because they have a big pocket. Its a shame. I am a dentist myself and you have no idea how many of my patients tell me that they have been told they need deep cleaning which in fact they did not. Yes the patients must be informed and always get a second opinion. Thanks for the video.
I was told I need a deep cleaning. And then after I'll need cleanings every quarter. Does this sound legit to you?
@@ColeighColeWee Ok, not every patient needs deep cleaning, however if you have not had a regular cleaning for a long time and you are not good with oral hygiene you may qualify for deep cleaning. Moreover, some dental offices are being greedy and tell the patients they need deep cleaning for the sake of more money. So, if you have periodontal disease which is the defined as deep pockets with inflamed gums and lots of dental plaque (calculus) you are a candidate for deep cleaning. yes, if you do a deep cleaning then you need to visit the office every 4 months for cleaning to maintain (periodontal maintance) the oral health of your gums and teeth. Good luck.
I have no swelling, bleeding, pain or inflamed gums and I brush and floss all the time. The last two dentists thought I had dental insurance and said I had gum disease and needed surgery. They didn't know my medical policy only covers two teeth cleanings per year. NOTHING else. They are both crooks. I didn't know until I watched this video that scaling and planing can cause damage. WOW. Thank you.
Most dentist are crooks. And it doesn't matter how prestigious the facility. I went to a very prestigious dental institution and my wallet was cleaner than my teeth. The insurance company was kicking back a lot of procedures due to it being unnecessary. "Plan Frequency Limitation" it is called. I had to pay that and trusted the dentist and turned out my dentist and his students were practicing unnecessary procedures for educational purposes at my expense.
@@inquizative44Did you report them to the states dental board? Did you file a malpractice lawsuit? Did you right a lengthy negative Google review?
@@anonymousf454 Thanks for the info. It was actually worse than I described....I retrieved my dental records and found out they were making fun of my language. Claiming I spoke in slang and in poor grammar, essentially racial slurs and these are foreigners speaking broken English!
@@inquizative44 Absolutely unprofessional and sickening. They do not deserve to be in business. Stick those cowards for everything you can brother
I went to one of those dental chain places for 3 years before I realized they were only ripping me off . Every 6 months I would go in for the cleaning and was told I needed the deep cleaning again. I’m not a dentist so I didn’t know. But they knew. They kept showing me x-rays to verify me needing a deep cleaning…but I didn’t know what the hell I was looking at. It’s amazing to me that they expect a lay person to understand and interpret a dental x-ray. Recently found out from a private practice dentist that the infection I had was lower than the level that they were cleaning, so all it did was make my teeth feel clean but the infection was still there. Never once was I offered any antibiotics or even an extraction or a root canal. Just every 6 months I was called in to help a dentist pay for his new Mercedes.
I have similar situation. One month ago I did exams at a dental clinic, the doc said I need deep cleaning and then referred me to a specialist. I had consolation appointment with the specialist, she examed my mouth and measured the "pockets", it turned out the pockets have become much deeper than the first exam one month ago, changed from 5 to 8 which surprised me! I was taking good care of my teeth cleaning during the month, how come they became such worse? I asked which teeth are pockets 8, she let me look at the computer screen my self! she also answered other questions impatiently. And She's not gently when did the exam, I was in pain and my teeth were bleeding. Not good experience. I'm hesitate if go ahead do the deep cleaning.
Highly recommend a second opinion- I was told I had periodontitis and needed a deep cleaning. Got a second opinion and was told my gums look good and I only needed a standard cleaning- mind you it was only 8 months after my last cleaning which made me question the first dentist telling me I needed a deep cleaning and also my wisdom teeth(which doesn’t bother me) pulled. I don’t recommend chain dentist.
I totally agree! I had a Dentist said i needed a deep clean after I scene anouther Dentist 3 months apart for a cleaning. I got up left the office because they were very unethical and said I had cavities as well. Went for second opinion 6 months without telling them any background and my teeth were 100% healthy no isuues! I hate to say since covid Dental office are hurting for money so Be careful.
Good Lord, we need to lobby to implement serious prison time for dental malpractice
Despite of what some dentists say, scaling and root planning is one of more painful procedures and I had 2 done so far, spaced out about 15 years apart. I think the initial one caused receding gumlines for one tooth, so there is definitely risk that the gum doesn't reattach optimally. For younger generations, there is ZERO excuse not to do an excellent job with daily home dental care. When I was a kid, they didn't even invent Sonicare yet. Nowadays, you can get a Sonicare and good water flosser for less than $100 combined.
painful? no way, not with local local anesthesia. I had mine done two days, half of the mouth and it was not painful at all. Honestly, I was getting sleepy since it took like an hr 30 minutes.
@@mrcalipride Local anesthesia is "localized" as the name implies. You can still feel pain, sensitivity and discomfort where you have exposed area of teeth with nerve endings.
Same, I think my hygienist reshaped my gums and made my bottom teeth look way longer. Teeth have never been the same after deep cleaning.
Thankyou. My dentist wants me to do deep cleaning, but I have no problem with gum. Luckily, I rejected the deep cleaning. " Doing deep cleaning on healthy gum can cause gum recession "
😮😮😮😮😮hey???? Is thus TRUE???
I need to get an SRP! I went to a private office, and the hygienist who recommended it was great! She and the dentist went above and beyond and showed me my X-rays, and took the time to educate me and explain the reasonings why! If your provider isn’t explaining the reasonings and showing you your X-rays as proof as to why you need something done, that’s a red flag whether you’re at a private of corporate office!
TBH, I was looking at the x rays and were explained, but, I had no idea what I was looking at or how bad/which stage lvl.
One of the upsides to having Medicaid dental insurance, if you go to a county dental office (as opposed to the corporate offices that take Medicaid), is that the dentists are never going to recommend procedures you really don't need, because there's no profit in it for them, and the dentists are just on salary and not pressured to up sell. Unfortunately, going to a private practice, even if it isn't a corporate office, it usually feels like walking onto a used car sales lot.
Medicaid doesn't cover deep cleaning. It's a fact. It's one of the three types of procedures they don't cover at all.
I have 4,5,6 pockets 4 months ago. I go a scaling and planing done the first week of March on all 4 quadrants. I'm at 1s/2s now except one pocket near a crown that is a 3 due to a bit of gum damage.
For those of you needing this done, I would recommend going to a periodontist rather than having it done at a regular clinic. It's more expensive. (1300 for me vs. 1080 at my reg dentist for all 4 quadrants), but they are specialists that do this on a daily basis and have far more experience and yield far better results than a general dentist. I did a good bit of research trying to figure out if I needed this, and came across a lot of people saying if you have 5s/6s general dentists will do it, but that it was still preferred to just make the jump to a Perio specialist.
It's a bit brutal the first day few days after. Your gums will be tender as hell, and you'll be very sensitive to cold, heat, etc, but after having both sides done thurs and fri, and brushing/rinsing gently with my waterpick before swishing chlorohexidine for a couple days, I was good as new by the following monday.
The biggest contributor to my recovery imo besides the deep cleaning is using a waterpick EVERY SINGLE night on 4-6 (I started low because my gums were bleeding) and also swapping to a better Electric tooth brush rather than flossing and a manual toothbrush. The waterpick is amazing, and cleans far better than flossing alone (though I still floss as needed to get stubborn stuck bits.
I cannot recommend it more highly. I got a 40 dollar Oral B pro 1000 and a Waterpick Aquarius for 49 dollars on Amazon. 100% worth making the investment and taking the time to do this nightly. The Waterpick only needs to be done just before bed so that your plaque doesn't have time to harden and stick to your teeth, so it's literally 90 seconds a night to prevent ever needing to have this procedure done.
Did you have any bone loss?
Totally agree. I recently bought a water flosser to augment my Sonicare and daily flossing. I regret not getting one sooner, it's amazing how much little bit of food debris it can flush out. I end up buying one for my parents and another for my suitcase. The only thing is water flosser takes up a lot of room in one's suitcase and the portable ones aren't as powerful. Also, Waterpik has a cheap battery power flosser that vibrates up and down, and it's amazing at dislodging stuck food debris.
Absolutely correct dental maintenance is so grueling 😩
Did you have bone loss? I just went for my regular cleaning and the found 4 & 5’s and want to do a deep cleaning.
With insurance my dentist wanted to charge me $1400 for deep cleaning. The dentist’s are using the hygienists just to bring in a ton of extra cash.
Thank you for this video. Just went to the dentist and they told me I had periodontal disease. She was calling off a bunch of numbers while probing, mostly over 4 and a couple of 5’s. She said I need a scaling to save my teeth. She also said she was surprised my teeth didn’t wiggle more with those probe numbers. But I got free X-rays, a full complete exam by the hygienist, and the MD Dentist. I am getting a molar pulled next week.. abscess with swelling infection. But I’m so glad I made the decision to start taking care of my teeth again last week, it’s been long enough.
glad to help
Just curious, besides the deep cleaning, did they give you any type of gum disease treatment to take home to help you out?
My English is ESL so be patient. Thanks
My father who is 92 years old and I believe he went dentist may be less than 10 times during his life? However, I know for sure he never had regular cleaning his teeth and never done deep cleanings. I do remember when he was around he was around 58years old one of dentist told him, he need deep cleanings and it need clowns for few teeth. Guess what, he didn't take that dentist advice and he treated his own instinct. He brushed almost twice or three times a day and flushed and gaggled with hydrozoan proxied. How do I know it? Because he force me to do as he dose. Anyway. How he is 92 years his teeth has coffee stained and few teethes have fillings. I m start to wondering you guys (dentists) recommending people regular teeth cleaning and deep cleaning stuff really do keep teeth healthy? What about my father? He is 92 years old, his teeth is in good condition. When his dentist told him he need to deep cleaning that was 34 years ago. According to his dentist my father should lost all the teeth by the time now. But I still see his teeth in his mouth. Is it some kind of miracle? Guess what? I am 55 years old now and I follow my father's way. I brush 3 to 4 minuets two three times every day and gaggle with hydrazone peroxide for whitening teeth. My teeth feel health and strong. Last year I went a dentist for regular cleaning, my dentist told me I need to deep cleaning. So, I came home and looking at my teeth through mirror carefully, I don't really see the serious level of for doing deep cleanings. I asked him, how much will coast and he told me $1,400 . Guess what. At this point, I can not trust any one of dentist in the world and even you guys. I will repost when I become 92 years from now and show you how many teeth I lost. Just wait here! 😁
I went to a dent that offered free exrays and cleaning. And was told I needed scaling and a deep cleaning. So I went to a periodontist and was told my gums are in good shape.
Most of them are not honest and just want to rip you off. They offered you “free” x-rays so that they can trick you and rip you off on deep cleaning. They didn’t tell you that deep cleaning does more damage to your gums and nerves.
Same, except I let them charge me a butt load of money and do everything they wanted to do. It was one of those places that finances in office. Went through the billing and they were trying to charge me $150 for a toothbrush, just added into the loan. I did at least have the sense to have them take all the unnecessary crap off. Delta Dental 🙄
I live in dallas texas and i wish you could take a look at my mouth. Dentist have hurt and scared me to death.
It shouldn’t be subjective if you have measurements of recession at least 4 or larger get a deep cleaning on those areas only . Otherwise stick with regular cleanings . I found my last hygienist to be over aggressive on the cleanings . I began to fear her .
Yep. Everytime I go to the dentist they’re always trying to upsell me on something and recently just went in for a cleaning and they told me that I have to come back for deep cleaning. I go every three to six months for a cleaning. How do I need a deep cleaning it makes no sense. I’m getting a second opinion.
Went to 2 different dentists in 2 days. Totally different version
Same here, and uncomparable differences. One dentist practices Integrity, while the other a Dentist out there to steal your money....(smh)
I don’t think that gun disease is something subjective. Bleeding upon probing, deep pocking and bone loss are the indications of periodontal disease. Bone loss and tartar buildup can be seen on x-rays, deep picking can be measured by prob and bleeding can be seen visually. There can be disagreement on the severity of periodontal disease, but it can definitely be diagnosed by dental professionals.
I just experienced everything you just said… the hygienist, and MD dentist pulled out X-rays, pamphlets, and explained to me in Full detail everything, and made sure I understood the condition I had let my mouth get in by not visiting a dentist for years. I have no insurance so I really believe they gave my a good price for a deep clean because they care.
I went to the same dentist for 25 years twice a year. Never had any problems but 2 cavities. Went to a new dentist first thing she asked without looking at me or X-rays was have you ever had a deep cleaning. They immediately said you need this and it’ll be 1k. Felt like I was at car dealership I got regular cleaning and left. You don’t just take the opinion of 1 person without knowing them and giving them your $$$ without trust.
Went to a "chain" dental office for prophy, during the pandemic, and the hygienist - let me tell you - all he did was a few swipes here and there, ignoring the hard to reach spots, and then he just brushed my teeth with an electric toothbrush. To be fair, my teeth are well taken care of but there are still areas of visible plaque accumulation in tight crevices between the teeth.
How do you know which locations have good hygienists and dentists that do detailed prophylaxis? I've always had a hard time finding a good practice for my cleanings. It's so frustrating. And it's even more frustrating because I cannot come to admit in their face that they did a lousy job with their cleaning and would like them to keep cleaning the spots they missed because I fear that they may end up damaging my teeth if they are vindictive at all, which, while probably rare, I really don't want to take any chances on.
Are there some sort of secret club that dentists and hygienists know of to connect each other to highly rated prophy experts?
I know that the Illuminati board game has a dentistry card this scared me …. I saw a video where they broke down these cards.
I went to two dentists in the last 4 months both had good reviews on google and one of them had 5 star reviewS, (I’m sure now that those reviews are fake)the first one did a very poor job in cleaning my teeth and left tartar in the back teeth, the dentist spent a minute with me and didn’t say anything that is useful .. same BS. So I looked for another dentist to get those teeth cleaned again and again she did a poor job and didn’t clean the area I told her about, the last dentist was a chain dental office. I got frustrated. My gum is receding in back, I don’t have any bleeding and I don’t have red gum like I see online, it’s just a dark yellow line going black around the tooth and I now have pain in one of those teeth. I use an electric tooth brush, I brush my teeth multiple times a day depending on where I am, if I’m in the house all day I try to brush after each meal and if I’m outside I brush twice or thrice a day, I use a hydrogen peroxide mouth wash, I floss at night.. I don’t eat sweets or candy cuz I don’t like sugary food.... but when the dentist does a poor job on that 6 month routine cleaning and that tartar keeps building up it starts to cause problems and the dentist-who didn’t do his job initially- will start “milking” you for more money. Now I have to look for another dentist and I’m thinking about going to my old dentist in a different State that I used to live in which is an hour flight.. he was top notch, honest and caring, I want to see him and take care of everything there and be done. Dentists are like other professionals they want to make money, the run a business and unfortunately very few actually care about their patients.. some are good but the majority are thieves. My old dentist that I used to go to when I lived in a different State had his own private practice, he takes the time to listen, he doesn’t rush, he works with his patients and only recommends what you really need, I have never heard of a single person who complained about him and almost all of his patients were referrals because of his great reputation, everyone at my old job and their families used his services. That’s the kind of dentists we want, not those thieves who work with their staff to rip you off by doing poor work to get you to come back and recommend what you don’t need.
Hi, I'm a hygienist (from the UK tho), you definitely should voice your concerns to whoever is doing your cleaning, they wont be able to be vindictive and damage your teeth. I often hear from patients I see for the first time that it was the most thorough clean they've had. If you feel odd about saying smth to the hygienists face, maybe make a comment like 'that was quick', or 'you're finished already' so they dont think it's okay to do a lousy job in the hard to reach areas. Also make a comment before they start of how you've noticed build up in certain areas. :)
Thank you so much! A few years ago my dentists suddenly started pushing this and water picks . But their vibes to me just screamed bad faith.
Hearing you say you have a skepticism as well made me really feel like I’ve got a honest explanation and that this cleaning might actually be useful for my remaining teeth.
You guys are doing a Great service 👍🇺🇸👍
I live in Anaheim, CA, but after watching your CZcams video, I'd love to visit your dental office if I ever move to Texas!!
Thank you for this video, but next time I hope you will turn off the music in the background.
can we get some kind of regulation vs these dentists that do permanent damage to healthy teeth? Something has to happen because a very high amount of dentists do this.
When I chipped the filling one of my teeth, I went to a dentist nearby to fix it. This dentist told me that the tooth had severe decay and needed to be pulled and replaced with a bridge. I went to get a 2nd opinion and the 2nd dentist said they can fix it with a filling, which they did. However, they recommended a list of other things including deep cleaning, crowns and fillings on every other upper tooth.
The other thing is, the filling that chipped was from a visit I had 3 years ago when that dentist told me I needed a few fillings. I found out after that he thinned out some other teeth which would appear a bit darker on the X-Ray. Why he did this? Likely to try and scam me by saying that the teeth showed dark areas on an xray and that they needed crowns or extractions.
A lot of dentists will try to pull some scam thing and drill teeth they aren't supposed to. You have to be more upfront with these frauds. We need stricter government regulations on them.
This makes me think of the last time I went to the dentist and had a tooth removed. I was soooooooooo naive. I just assumed that I needed everything they charged me for. Turns out they included some COMPLETELY OPTIONAL Stellalife products that I absolutely didn't need. They included a mouth rinse and a pain & swelling gel. That rinse was $40 and the gel was $45. I wasted $85.
Thank you for teaching the truth.
Thank you Dr. Choi! Your videos are so informative
Glad you like them!
@@northtexasdentalsurgery So do you do LANAP in your practice? Do you do perio trays?
Kinda interesting that a professional who loves placing implants talks about people getting “ripped off” for treating periodontal disease vs treating for titanium deficiency.
And then they say you will have to have deep cleanings for life at S1500 every 3 to 4 months. What greed!
After watching all these videos about teeth, I have one conclusion: Eating is a sin.
lol. sugary foods at least
I had a deep cleaning coupled with laser gum treatment at the same time. Is this common in the dental world? Also, a small part of my gum was left dark from the laser, I guess it burnt. How long does this burnt area take for it to go back to normal pink? Thanks!
Don't know what to do: I've been told repeatedly that my teeth and gums and "very healthy". I have been told I've got "some recession" but not to worry just yet. Went in for a cleaning today and they sprung the "Scaling and Root Planing" on me just for my back molars. They said there's been some bone loss since last year and the gums are pulling away from the tooth creating deeper pockets. And with probing (sticking the metal tip on my gum) there was bleeding. The numbers - just back by my molars are like 4 or 5 or something like that. So they did NOT clean any of my teeth but instead told me they'd submit to my insurance to get me set up for this deep cleaning. Feels fishy. I mean, I know there's some deeper pocketing back there by the molars but I just never heard of this before until I just walked in for a routine cleaning after being told several appointments ago that I really take good care of my teeth. ?? Any thoughts?
Same thing just happened to me. I’ve had gum recession due to the way that I brush. They told me my gums were swollen but I didn’t see any swelling on the pictures. They did X-rays no cleaning. Told me the deep cleaning will cost me about 600.00 out of pocket and 3 visits. I will be going for a second opinion.
@@atarbuck3452 Me Too!
Same here. We moved so just had our first visit with our new dentist and suddenly I've went from good healthy teeth to "early periodontic gum disease." I've never been diagnosed with gingivitis, which supposedly happens before this. 🤔 They want to do root planing and scaling on my teeth and then see me every 3-4 months instead of 6-8 months in order to "checkup" on it. If little to no improvement they will keep doing the process or recommend surgery (cut the gum into flaps - expose the full root for cleaning) to go deeper to "fix" it. Maybe this issue is legit and came up out of the blue, but I'm not feeling any pain and not seeing swelling either.. I faithfully clean my teeth and haven't changed the way I clean my teeth. Seems sketchy. 🧐🤔🤔🤔 I'm definitely going to get a second opinion before I agree to root planing and scaling!
@@angelatandy8202 that sounds seriously suspicious! Get a second or third opinion! I had a dentist nearly ruin one of my teeth over drilling it two times for a filling, then placed a crow on the tooth that actually became infected from over drilling, I lived in pain for a year!!! All I needed was a filling! By the grace of god I found a great dentist to fix it with root canal and crown but I hate going to the dentist now. Had another dentist last year try to tell me I needed a tooth pulled and get a $3000 implant! Something seemed off so I went for a second opinion and found out there is literally nothing wrong with my tooth!!! Try to only go to to dentists that have a lot of high reviews. The two shady dentists barely had any reviews. It’s a shame people are so evil and greedy that they will harm others to make more money!
healthy teeth does not mean healthy gum...
Only within the past year have I even ever heard of "deep cleaning". I'm 70. I don't think I need it. Twice (because MY insurance mustn't be one dentists like working with) I've tried two different Gentle Dental offices. I do not believe I need all the work they say I need. My Doctor told them to leave me alone for three months because of other issues. I don't think I can bear to go back.
I had one deep cleaning done....NEVER again. Within 2 weeks I started getting an abscess above one tooth that had a root canal done many years earlier. My dentist told me it was a incomplete root canal and I would need to go to a periodontal specialist to have the root canal redone....I never went, that was 4 years ago. I treated the abscess myself and its never come back. I also am not returning to any dentist for cleanings, I use baking soda and peroxide to gently brush my gums and teeth, you'll never get plaque again and my gums are pink and healthy, with no bleeding. The only way I will ever return to a dentist is if I'm in excruciating pain and I will only allow an extraction.
It's hard to find skilled dentists and hygienists unfortunately. It's the same thing as going to a restaurant honestly, some places have cooks that just cannot make the same ingredients taste good while another works miracles.
Amen
so you mix baking soda and hydrogen peroxide and brush? how often do you do this?
You go to an ENDODONTIST to get root canals retreated!
I feel like a lot of dentists are unethical. Aspen Dental is one of them. They will charge for mouth rinse per tooth and an oral b i series toothbrush.
It happen to me last week, went to dentist chain and after X-ray say I need a deep clean which is cost $1,000.00. My insurance is not cover deep cleaning. I told the dentist I just need a regular cleaning, I can not pay that kind of $ and I think the dentist is not happy what I wanted. Never coming back again.
I did the same thing and when they cleaned my teeth they spent 5 minutes on it after an hour of trying to talk me into spending 1k more
My husband had a deep cleaning and developed an abscess afterwards. So now I'm scared of this procedure.
Is this root planning and scaling?
Very helpful
My buddy's teeth are pretty well hammered as he has a family history of problem. He also has recently acquired Diabetes................which could be from his teeth bacteria. Interesting.
I was pondering the methods of deep cleaning with laser tech to the standard technical methodology of mental tools that are used to remove tartar from the teeth when a server case of periodontal is present would it be a better choice if a person is told that an extraction is needed because the theeth are too loose and might fall out during a scaling and planning ?shouldn’t people with this type of problem be considered Lazer treatment considering that there still is some bone foundation and more than 3/4 of teeth that are strong enough to be maintained ? Or is it so bad off that periodontal deases is the end of being able to maintain oral and healthy blood does keeping up with a healthy heart have no chance of periodontal present in the mouth?
Basically you wish for a good Dentist who practices Integrity, not a local fraud Dentist who's out there to steal your money to have you in pain, to make you come back for more Dentistry. So many Dentists out there just for the Hustle. I don't wish to meet another Hustling Dentist ever, which is so common these days. Lots of Dentists choose to become Hustlers. They should make a film "Hustler 3"
Many locals dental clinic try to follow up longer to take insurance money
Thanks so much for this video what I dont get my dentist said i needed a deep cleaning cause she said she saw a lot of tartar on my back teeth why do they have to do all four quadrants on my mouth for that and wont that damage the healthy tissue on the other three quadrants im sorry there is something so horrific about a scam dentist we only get one mouth and set of teeth and the thought that they would permanently damage someone mouth just to make extra money is so disgusting to me
yes it does suck. its hard for me to make an assessment whether its needed or not without the probings and X-rays
@1:51 Once you see pockets around 4 or 5 or 6mm, that may not be indicative of an active gum disease right? It may be the result of past gum disease where the gum recession and bone loss cannot be reversed, isn't it? Does blood during probing then confirms that there is an active gum disease? What if there is no bleeding? I hope to get some education/clarification about this question. Thanks.
I’ve had a 6 pocket on one of my teeth for over 30 years and after regular cleanings twice a year. Recently, they said I needed a deep cleaning after just having had my regular cleaning at the same place and the dentist went out of his way to tell me I had very healthy gums. ???
@@pauletteschiowitz8989 I don't understand you about the dentist telling you you had healthy gums but need deep cleaning? My gums and teeth improved tremendously after i started using the Sonic care electric toothbrush and also chewing xylitol gums. The gaps of my teeth actually became smaller and some of the shaky teeth no longer shake. So I realised that gum recession can actually be reversed. My gums and teeth are so much healthier now after more than a year on this protocol. Even the dentist was surprised.
Thanks for the great informant.
Glad it was helpful!
@4:57 Why does research show gum recession happens only in normal gum/teeth without gum disease? If it happens to normal teeth then it should happen in gum/teeth with gum disease. It does not make sense. For me I feel that once I started on doing deep cleaning over the last few years, there seems no turning back with gum recession. I feel that my gums just get lesser and lesser. It is frustrating because on one hand, I have to have the plaque and tartar removed regularly, but also it seems to cause further recession. I am so frustrated. Caught between a rock and a hard place.
I am
In serious pain after half deep cleaning!
Did they give you anesthetic
I was told i need deep cleaning but am hearing that am not in for it and i have to pay from my pocket because i uave no health card
Dr Choi thank you for posting these very informative videos.
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How do I find someone like you in the Los Angeles/San Fernando Valley area?
Yes me too! I an from LA and searching for a good dentist. Please help!
My gums were ruined by multiple scalings by a fast food dentist. 4k down the drain and a lot of pain since. Ripping out 4. Can't take it anymore.
Hmmm i went to my dentist for the last time, they did a deep clean. I moved to new area of the state and my new dds said you need a deep cleaning. I said, me dont think so, just had one 9 mos ago. He said, oh i didnt know that but i think you still need one. Btw, im a recovering addict and when i was on meth my teeth and gums got peridontitus (spelling?) So even after a deep clean my gums dont change for the better. So me thinks i not do it againeth. Im lucky to be alive and only missing one molar. I have all my wisdom teeth with zero issues. I get regular cleanings every 6 mos. for 47 yrs minus the 4 i was high lol
Keep up the good work staying sober!
@@andyc.6239 well I’m thinking of using again. It sounds nice to get loaded but not meth
@@Planespotterdude did you start again?
He said "corporate", but it's really *unethical* dentistry.
Dentists are purely money driven and one told me that I need a deep clean in every quandrant of mouth. I said no thanks. Started using xylitol after meals. the usual Brush, floss, listerine and ACT. My gums are pink and don't bleed anymore. Xylitol can REVERSE decay. Its gold standard in Finland and other countries in the world. No teeth problems for 4 years now since I started.
yes. no reason to think dentists are different than plumbers, car mechanics, even physicians. there are good ones and bad ones. ones who are ethical and others who aren't.
Any reason why your using listerine and ACT?
@@atarbuck3452 Listerine targets bacteria that causes plaque and gingivitis and ACT restores enamel and reverses decay and freshens breath, Its part of Dr ellie 5 part total teeth care system. I swear it works, it was developed by an british dentist who practiced in Europe
@@user-be5qg7mr1s ahhhh I see. Ive had any bleeding. I don’t see plaque. I’m sure there’s a small amount that can be removed through a regular cleaning and my gums receded years ago due to how I brush. My previous dentist already knew this. He retired and I had to get another dentist who recommended a deep cleaning. They didn’t even bother giving me my regular annual cleaning that’s covered 100%. They just sent me on my way with an expensive treatment plan. I’m not sure when Ill be going back.
@@atarbuck3452 if there is no bleeding what the treatment plan for? cavities?
The modern Hippocratic oath:
I shall do by my patients as I would be done by.
I shall work with my profession to improve the quality of medical care and of public health but I shall not let any lessor public or professional considerstion interfere with my primary committment to provide the best and most appropriate care to each of my patients.
With no inspection, my wife was told by Gold Coast Dental in Brea, CA that recent pregnancy/child birth is a good reason to get deep cleaning. Is this true? We went ahead with it, paying upfront of $1,000, because our insurance office has closed for the day, and never got any promised reimbursements because they said the insurance company actually insisted we pay additional $330 for their rate. So cash patients only pay $1,000 and patients with my insurance has to pay $1,330 out of pocket after the insurance paid the dental office $527? How is this right? Sounds like a big scam. I already reported this to the BBB and the dental board. Nothing much I can do.
Start at 1.11
Walking with Enoch
Thank you. I just left the dentist. I went for a regular cleaning but he refused to do it and recommended a deep cleaning because I have bacteria around my gums. He said that my brushing is good but I don’t floss. He is right. But I don’t have any pain or bleeding. He also didn’t prob my gums and only did the x ray. I think I’ll get a second opinion. He also said that a reg cleaning wouldn’t do me any good because it’d only clean the surface of my teeth, which are already cleaned from my regular brushing. Wondering if he’s telling me the truth.
Did you get a second opinion?
@@miltonacn8567 The second dentist did the regular cleaning but said I have cavities.
@@alexat2854 so you didn't need the deep scaling cleaning. Sounds like another way of them trying to make money off of us. And a classic example of medical practitioners taking advantage of patients and providing UNNEEDED TREAFMENTS!
I bet there's some good information in here. The background music is really making it hard for me to hear everything being said.
Actually how many types of deep cleans are there? I have deep cleaning done which takes about 30 mins. But are they longer ones? I know some of my teeth get really sensitive with this clean (I have gum recession due to periodontal disease but it is under control). I know some dentists do numbing injections. My hygienist uses numbing gel for me and it is bearable. But I am wondering are there more than one type of deep cleaning? (Not talking about LANAP) Is root planing also same as deep cleaning? It is so confusing.
I seen someone in this comments say there’s took an hour and 30 mins, which is ridiculous.
I also heard that root planning and scaling is the same thing as deep cleaning and that can actually cause gum recession
my dentist wants to do a deep cleaning and put in chemo treatments in many of my teeth but my xrays looked okay to me and my gums never bleed when I brush or floss so I am getting a 2nd opinion from a periodontist. The dentist wanted to charge almost $3,000 for the deep cleaning. He said some of my pockets in the back were a 7, some were 5's, etc. Idk about this dentist.
Tks for info
I had a cleaning for the first time in a while due to not having insurance. Said I needed a filling for the beginning of a cavity between two teeth. Didn’t mention demineralization just went right to a procedure and wanted me to pay in advance. What are your thoughts.
One dentist said I have 4mm pockets and needed a deep cleaning. The other one said I only have 3mm and didn’t! I don’t know what I’m suppose todo..
I’d go with the 3mm suggestion.
My dentist retired so I went to a new dentist and he recommends a deep clean every two years. I feel that’s unnecessary especially since I’ve been going for my cleanings twice a year consistently since I was 19 and I am 51. I have had a deep clean once some years back but every 2 years seems excessive…thoughts?
My dentist in Mexico said that I did not need deep cleaning
Hello how are you ! Can you help me with a important question I’m wondering, if I need a Root canel, is it best to get a deep cleaning first ? Also how long does it take to heal from a deep cleanse on average ?
Thank you for all you do!!
Do Dentist Doctors do Deep Cleanings or just Hygienists????
both can do it
@@northtexasdentalsurgery How Long does Deep Cleanings Take????
I can’t believe any American would ever pay the USA prices for dental work. It is out of this world . Let’s just ask this dentist. How much is a zirconium dental crown in your office?
Is deep cleaning needed once you have localized gum recession and bone loss? As well as Pseudopocketing and redder gums?
How long does the deep cleaning needed after it's done?
I have server gum disease I consulted 2 dentists offices one recommended full mouth debridement and the other other recommended a deep cleaning. Which is better and are they the same?
Will doing this help with bad breath?
it could. so could rinsing with a mouthrinse, garling with it, scraping your tongue. all these things are helpful
Doesn’t it loosen your teeth
Yes
If bleeding you need non synthetic C
Stick my gums with a probe and it bleeds 🤔 Dentists are so corrupt. I stopped going to dentist 25 years. Sick and tired of their lies. Always telling me I have cavities and that I need teeth pulled, that I have gum disease, etc. nearly 50 and I have never had a tooth pulled, not a one cavity, and any problem I've ever had usually go away in two weeks or less. I brush teeth maybe three times a week. If insurance didn't exist (and dentists were honest) we'd probably only need about 10-15% of what we have today. Same with doctors but probably closer to 25%.
Dentists use a “scare tactic” so that they can rip you off. That’s a huge crime!
@@djenansaric7638 just like politicians and media
Hold up you brush 3x a week.. your breath is not fresh and be honest.
@@hardbodytraining100 There are many ways to obtain fresh breath withouts the likes of Crest, Colgate, Listerine, etc. Try eating an apple, an orange, ginger, fennel seeds, etc.
I have moderate periodontitis with mostly 3 and 4 probing and some 5. My periodontis gives me appointments every 5 months and I think it is abusive because I take much care, I brush two to three times a day and floss after every meal.
I am worried that deep cleaning twice a year could do more harm than good. How often do you recommend to someone with moderate periodontal disease?
Also after the pandemic because I didnt visit for two years she did a very deep-deep cleaning requiring anasthesia ( not the normal cleaning maintenance but she said that two years was too long) and she did the four quadrants at once, which I think is unappropriate, all quadrant at once with many syringe anasthesia shots in the gums, it was painful. It is normally made in two appointments isn it? . I still I think I didn't need it but maybe she needed the 500 Euros she charged me. Normally maintenance cleaning for periodontal disease is 80Euros.
Was deep cleaning painful. I was told i need periodontal treatment. They have to do deep cleaning and they will give me anesthesia before and they will do ¼ of the mouth each time and it cost more then €300
@A - R It hurts more thr deeper your pockets are because they have to go I'm really deep to clean your teeth. The less deeper the less pain. Hopefully this helps
@@a-r5640 No it is not because they use anasthesia.
I pretty much stopped brushing my teeth at 29. I’m 44 now, I brushed may be 30/ 40 times in the last 15 years, and I don’t have any cavities and my teeth look pretty good. I had 7 or 8 visits to the dentist / hygienist since then and perhaps 6 or 7 prophy cleanings.
I floss a few times per month or so.
I brush twice a day, floss twice a day mouthwash every day, for the past 4 years. And iv had nearly 10+ cavities and 4 root canals.
that's crazy.
@@Shanksy007 Yeah, it's all genetics and diet. Some people's saliva is naturally more basic or their mouth does not have certain strains of bacteria while others the opposite. And what you eat definitely contributes to this as well. Edit: Disclaimer I am not a dental professional this is just what I've educated myself on through information that's available publicly online.
I never had a cavity until I started doing regular cleanings. I think the abrasive toothpastes and cleanings cause cavities and don’t prevent them.
is gingival irrigation same as deep cleaning?
found out it isn't. It is just (glorified) mouth wash sprayed into gums. A way for dentists to scam money out of people, never get that done because it is not covered by any insurances
No
No what you need to talk about is the nutrition and pH in the mouth guys. You never talk about how it affects the mouth.
Follow Dr.Ellie's dental routine and you'll never need deep cleanings.
Sad to say but, watch your pockets, [financially] Seems dentist or the "industry" of dentist will embellish or even Lie for profit. I know it's is a business and there is money to be made, but come on. Lying is the worst in any aspect of life.
totally true
I went to the periodontist last week he pricked my gums and said he didn’t see anything wrong only a little gum disease, he said I should schedule an appointment to get a deep cleaning I haven’t done that yet but after reading these comments I’m so scared right now, but I need the fresh breath confidence, what do I do now? 🤦♀️
how did it go?
No!
Why don’t you just get to the point and say that you want all your patients to get “deep cleaning” (read: more money). Deep cleaning damages your nerves and gums, so it’s a big NO. It’s so unfortunate that dental plans are privatized and people are getting ripped off. Dental plan should be controlled by government, so that way a dentist wouldn’t care about profit and they would be more honest and ethical. Also, don’t trust anyone when their first sentence in their video starts to “give them thumbs up”.
little bitter buddy? maybe you should watch out other videos and we just give them straight facts and try to keep people from getting ripped off
@@northtexasdentalsurgery you guys were honest and transparent in this video 👍🏼
Government control? Lol!
$500,000
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Both types of "cleaning" are unnecessary if one has healthy microbiome. Keep your mouth healthy by good nutrition, don't eat junk... And forget about the cleaning scam!
Aspin Dental the worse
Why don’t dentists have good teeth
lol
background music is so annoying
That music gotta go
thanks but remove this annoying background music!!
What are My probing depth ? 4-5
do I have bleeding 🩸 in my probing ?
can you show me my x-rays!
Get a second opinion
Can you also talk about invasilogn for adult 45 years old pros n cons any damage for teeth 🦷 bones 🦴 with invsasilgn?
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