Dungeons and Dragons Lore: Lung Dragons
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- The Dragons of Kara-Tur, with Faerun being the western side of the continent, Kara-Tur is the far east. The Lung are a group of dragons that are part of the Celestial Court and have a very elemental role in the governance of the natural cycles of rain, storm, thunder and flood, they dwell in the earth, the sky, the rivers, lakes and the sea.
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The pīnyīn is "lóng." Second tone. It's also pronounced with a slightly long o. It's not lung.
Ah! I see, thank you a lot! So that is more of an "Ow" sound, kind of "Lowng". I will endeavor to pronounce it correctly in future.
And of course "long" just means dragon.
And yes, your Chinese pronunciation is pretty awful. Watch a pinyin video please......
@@sunsin1592 That's not his problem. It's a problem with the sourcebook "Oriental Adventures". The people who wrote it weren't trying too hard make already existing material match Asian mythologies/fantasy.
I get the feeling the target market was non-Asians who were interested in having an oriental campaign. Consider that they tended to favour non-Chinese and non-Japanese romanization like wade-giles and hepburn for Chinese and Japanese-sounding words respectively rather than Chinese favoured ones like hanyu pinyin (which you mentioned. Also, I believe Asians who are familiar with D&D don't have many problems adjusting core stuff to oriental campaigns. I doubt anyone would have trouble just taking the core dragons, like Gold Dragon, and adjusting it to be more Chinese (not that much work would be needed there).
While I don't like the lung (mainly because of lack of 3.5 update, and it's woefully underpowered like a lot of 3.0 monsters), I still like that book. It still offers some extra splat, decent feats, and has some creatures like the Kirin that I don't think an adjusted/modified unicorn would do enough justice. AJ Pickett has a great video about kirin too.
@@sunsin1592 hey, at least he's trying to pronounce it as faithfully as he can! Mandarin/Cantonese is quite difficult for Westerns to pronounce, you know?
Interesting that the only one that CAN'T fly is the only one with wings!
Go figure.
Is it trying to hard maybe?
Flight or Wings, you can only have ONE.
Fun fact: In Japanese mythology, if a carp manage to swim up a waterfall and leap over a gateway after the waterfall, it will be worthy to transform into a dragon.
Apparently that was the inspiration for the pokemon Magikarp becoming Gyrados
That's how you evolve a Gyarados
@@tkshillinz9334 That explains the part of Pokemon Snap where bopping a magikarp makes a gyarados appear out of a waterfall later.
Isn't it Chinese mythology??
It Chinese
7:05 Wish fulfillment much? Gorgeous magical women/beings that fall head over heels for the exact personality type that most player characters are going to be?
You sound surprised 🤣
I honestly always thought there was a bit of redundancy with the lungs.
A lot of the main true dragons could easily have been retrofitted or modified slightly for an oriental campaign. The gold dragon was directly inspired by Chinese dragons (look at the 2nd Ed wingless version), and the myth of the Yellow Emperor's (huangdi) triumph over the Red Emperor (yandi) was the start of China proper. They can literally just be represented by red and gold dragons. lol
So... basically, Chinese Mythology set the stage for a potential sequel where the vengeful yandi returns, overthrows the rightful Emperor, and establishes an evil, ‘Red’ regime...?
All can become humanoids. Must be a lot of halfdragons in Kara-Tur.
And they all know kung fu.
Aren’t the “half-dragons” of Kara-Tur called Spirit Folk?
Typhoon dragon: Any last requests foolish mortals?
Quick thinking rogue: yes. If we give you somthing you've always wanted within reason, may we garner safe passage?
Typhoon dragon: * litterally in shock. Gale force storm winds stop* .... you'd do that?
Artificer: uh, do what?
Typhoon dragon: .... invite me over for a tea party? * gives puppy eyes*
All of party in unison: YES.
Typhoon dragon: * polymorphs into a 7 year old girl. Proceeds to hug party members* Yay!
In early D&D, Gold Dragons looked very much like Lung Dragons. Did they ever give a reason for changing the aesthetics of the Gold Dragon to a more western winged look?
Not that I know of.
I kind of like the western look more.
On the original AD&D, the Gold was known as Draco aurum orientalis
Love the chinese imperial court accent on your chinese words, that deliberate over pronunciation and extending of the words was favoured by eunuchs in the imperial court historically. Your announcers and lesser dignitaries in Lung's households and courts should definitely speak that way. The hour of the silent dragon approaches, may the grace of heaven smile on you!
Oh nice! Right on the money then, as we say.
"They report to the Ministry of Thunder," Outside of context that sounds so ridiculous.
I am picturing Thor sitting behind a desk, stamping forms with Mjölnir like cracks of thunder, bellowing "NEXT!".
AJ Pickett
Zeus in the background rutting as a swan
Zeus got sent to Human Resources
"Kara-Tur is inspired by Rokugan" Pretty fair trick there, considering that the Kara-Tur first showed up in 1986 and Legend of Five Rings arrived in 1995. I had no idea TSR was using time travel to steal ideas from the future. :)
There are dragons inna river, dragons inna sea, dragons inna rainforest with some inna tree. Dragons on the plains, by the fiddy or hundra. We got scores of scaley-slashers up inna tundra.
I have a strong craving for spicy crab after listening to your coiled dragon concept. Mmmm...yes. Salty and hot, with some nice red Thai chilis.
Australia and Fiji have fantastic crab recipes, something New Zealand lacks, sadly. We have coastal paddle crabs, but they are not the same as a juicy and sweet mud crab.
The Carp Dragons are also known for making quite nice tea.
Oolong being their specialty
Traditionally in Chinese mythology, dragons were the "Uber/Transport" of the gods... And sort of guards and servants of the gods.
At least we see some East Asian dragons in this universe
Alright!, Pan Lung was a request of mine, I'll pretend you did this vid for me. Dwellers of the Forbidden City represent.
If a lung dragon crosses with a black dragon you get a black lung who makes coal miners sick.
Cool info, but when You said "dogs and cats living in the harmony- mass hysteria " I couldn't help but laugh 😅😅😅 Good one 💝
Never take things too seriously :)
AJ Pickett I know that was slight sarcasm 😉 I liked it after all ☺
No, I would say it is a good life philosophy.. or perhaps it is just my chaotic good temperament.
AJ Pickett Theoretically... Yes 😉😘
Venkman!
My uncle gave me an ad&d monster manuel when i was like 10 and i treasured it forever, these lungs are the things i loved the most.
AJ! You are among my favorite youtubers! Your work is second to none, when it comes to D&D! I love this video! It takes me back to my days of playing 1st edition D&D with my dad when I was a kid. He was in the Military, and he and his friends would play D&D to pass the time. He still has all of his 1st edition books, along with the used ones I found in book/comic/game stores, I added Oriental Adventures, along with several of its modules, to "our" collection. Oriental Adventures, and 2nd edition Ravenloft, are my favorite campaign settings. Combining the two also makes for good times. Alas, I moved far from home with my fiance, years and years ago. But World of Warcraft fills the void a bit. :)
I realize that Ravenloft as a campaign setting is now outdated/defunct, but I'd love for you to do some videos on its Darklord NPCs and some of its more iconic monsters.
Actually they have updated and brought Ravenloft back for 5th edition, I have not purchased the source book, but I might, as it has a lot of loyal fans.
It took me back as well! Reading the 5e materials it’s interesting how similar it is to 1st edition in many ways. More so than the last 3 editions any way.
AJ when you read that wind spell description it really brought the focus of AD&D front and center. It referenced the time unit of a “turn” or ten minutes. I appreciate all the good work you’re doing and if I weren’t living on disability I’d be a subscriber. Still might do if I can get things worked out.
Be well
Another interesting vid. I loved trying to figure out how you could explain how a Oriental or Lung dragon could fly even though they did not have wings without falling back on magic. Even went so far as to make a a dragonic sub-race related to the Lung dragons that was kinda like the Imugi of Korean mythology, and create a adventure in which the group was tasked by a scholar to find an bring them samples of these creatures to study. Thru the adventures the group came up with the idea that the creature had two long air-bladder like sacs that ran along either side of the serpentine body they had, and that these were attached to a pair of organs that could produce a lighter than air gas that could allow them to float, but then that they could also expel this gas from different horn-like nozzles that covered its body to maneuver themselves thru the air in different directions.
that is both a fascinating and weird idea, i like it.
In earlier editions they did an anatomy of them, they have an organ that creates an antigravity effect.
Oddly enough, I think the dilong or earth dragon has some kind of dominion over rivers and lakes in mythology.
I was re-watching Matt Colville's Volo's guide review and he states that he finds the monster lore useless. Of course that's his view, nothing wrong with that. But I always saw monster lore from Wizards of the Coast to be a good helping of inspiration regarding narrative rather than just flat out telling you where and how this monster comes to be.
Matt Colville is more a D&D historian from the perspective of someone who has just played the game since the very early days, he also has an excellent grasp of narrative and plot, so for him, the published lore is not much use, when he can just make it up on the fly.
AJ Pickett Ah, I totally see what you're saying.
Thanks for replying, it seems like so many youtubers never check their comments.
I'll never understand why they don't.
It's the best thing about CZcams. This channel has literally been designed by the people who comment on it, I am almost exclusively producing content based on the requests of the viewers.
AJ Pickett well, you can be sure that it's more than just the great content that keeps me coming back to your channel. It's also the chance to interact with a knowledgable DM who clearly cares for this game!
I'm a lot like Colville. I see the WotC produced content more like ideas for me to rip off of, rather than solid Lore. My own head canon is more fun anyway. Lung Dragons and Gem Dragons, to me, are the same thing, for example.
Thank you so much for making this video!!! This is exactly what I was looking for! I am currently sitting at my kitchen table designing a BBEG based on the real life Japanese General iwane Matsui he was Emperor hirohito's uncle and the guy who issued the orders that led to the massacre of Nanking except he is a half dragon necromancer working his way to becoming something similar to a dracolich
Looking to put together some 3.x homebrew for these as playable racial classes, and this has been a huge help. I know this comment's late as heck for when this came out, but I'm glad to see you're still at it and mixing in your own creative ventures along with the deep dives into existing stories.
I've been playing around with creating a world setting for a while now and one of the things I decided to mess with was how dragons age. I thought it would be cool for dragons to start off with the western style of the chromatics and metallics but wen they get to the wyrm age they start to change and become more like the lung dragon in appearance.
Interesting! I like that idea.
Divine Wind in the Japanese language is kamikaze. Its history refers to a time when a storm blew up and sank an attacking navy, if I’m not mistaken.
“Kami-Kaze”...? Huh. So it is. Neat. Yo, I’ve been watching Anime for 20+ years and I never noticed that? God, I’m dense. Well, regardless of how you feel about the Imperial Navy ~1942, you gotta admit their poetic irony game was top notch.
Nice Ghostbusters reference lol
You know what my vote for next video is.
I'm holding off on more Character Class vids until I get my copy of Xanathars guide to everything, as it has loads of sub class options in there. So, more monsters, probably Ferris dragons.
00:30 There is so an "Egypt" (Mulhorand and Calimshan) in the Forgotten Realms! I remember reading about in in V 3.0! They just combined the place into the same region as the Faerun equivalent of Mesopotamia! I know this because the two civilzations butted heads over territory and it was the place where the deity Gilgeam (Gilgamesh) died! They also worshiped the Egyptian God Ptah.
00:30 No, Kara-Tur and their dragons pre-date Legend of the Five Rings. I think the confusion comes from the fact that in 3.0 Oriental Adventures, they used the Legend of The Five Rings setting instead of the Kara-Tur setting (because WoTC had just bought the card game for Legend of The Five Rings from which the new setting came from and wanted to give it a bump/push) which was used in previous editions.
I do hope 5E dose something with Kara-Tur. It looks like my players may be heading there. But considering their slow progress it will not be till some time next year. Lets hope a book drops by then.
rpg.rem.uz/Dungeons%20%26%20Dragons/AD%26D%201st%20Edition/Forgotten%20Realms/Kara-Tur%20The%20Eastern%20Realms%20Box%20Set.pdf In the meantime, most of the material is fluff, not crunch, and the mechanics of monsters are not hard to work out, since it is a pre-established group of characters, no need to worry about the player character class and race options either, just NPC's, locations, stories and encounters really. I think you will do fine.
Sweet. Thanks.
Wow i wasn't aware they had asian dragons in d and d, i mean i guess its not surprising this game has been around for a while but still the way they differentiate them from true dragons while still keeping with the theme is neat.
I'm building my first character for my first ever campaign currently. I'm an Air Genasi Shadow Monk/Hexblade Warlock who has a spear with a black Lung dragon inside it as my patron😀
AJ you do great videos. Thank you for shining a light on Kara-Tur and other regions of the Realms that WotC seems to have left in limbo.
I would love to hear more about Spirit Folk!
in real world myth, these kind of dragon is actually more related to naga, and i always see naga as india version of dragon
Naga is also a big thing in Khmer and Thai culture.
So are these dragons responsible for the draconian species the ones that can morph from human to dragon at will. Cool info man
The long, as far as I know, have little to do with any humanoid draconic breeds. I could be flat out wrong though, I need to learn much, much more.
These sound more like the Divine branch of the Draconic family, like how Gem Dragons are Psionic, and Metallic and Chromatic are Arcane.
In many ways that is quite right, however, the Stellar dragons are more fitting from a draconic perspective.
@@AJPickett I haven't seen the Stellar Dragon vid yet.
Someone actually has an explanation as to why certain dragons are not more common? That is rare.
You must defeat Sheng Lung to stand a chance.
It would be cool to watch a video about famous wizards in D&D, like Tenser and Bigby and those guys.
added to the list!
AJ Pickett a video on the characters behind certain spell names would be awesome, always wondered who Tasha was
“Magical shapeshifting dragons that take the form of hot Asian girls who fight with giant swords and have a weakness for brave adventurers.”
For once, I’m glad the suits at Hasbro know little to nothing of their own lore, otherwise Baldur’s Gate 3 would’ve been a *very* different game. #DontYouGuysHavePhones
Another fun fact you missed...
You can Summon them if you collect the 7 dragonballs
Nope, you are thinking of the Mikado, the sire of all Celestial Dragons.
The White Dragons are known as Bai-Lung or Bai-Long, and they were known as tricksters
Loved your "Ghostbusters" reference re: dogs and cats 😅
Sweet, back to monsters.
It's a quirk of mine that I feel like I build up credit I can spend on making non-ecology videos, by making ecology videos.. *shrug* whatever keeps the channel trucking eh?
When will you be doing a video about the Kidney dragons?
We Tai ahoms of India still worship the lung dragon. It has been the symbol of our tribe for centuries
That last long holding a ball lightning like a boss.
You were definitely having fun at 15:30
Yeah, I was, I like the way it sounds, and it's suitably impressive for a creature that can level a civilization.
I gotta question, is it possible for a dragon hybrid human to have lung dragon parents?
Yes.
AJ Pickett
Awesome thank you, BTW keep up the good work man your videos are amazingly informative. Very tantalizing for a guy like me who enjoys to learn everything about things.
I have no intention of ever stopping Joe, thanks for the kind words and your support :)
16:40 if it is a 2e thing make it 9'th level for 5e conversion as 7'th level is the max divine spell slot in 2e except quest and true dwemor etc
why is divine wind wizard spell
Good question... I dunno.
I've done some rokugan campaigns I greatly recommend it to experienced players
In my personal campaign setting, Lungs are not pure dragons. I like them, especially the carp, but there not quite dragony enough for me.
Yeah, there was a lot more diversity in dragon kind back when they dominated the whole world, so, much as there is often significant variation in the humanoids, there were draconic life forms that were quite outlandish.. take the dragon turtle for instance, that is weird, then we have wyverns, drakes, dragonborn, kobolds, spellscales..
4:37 heeeey that's a lagiacrus
Also an Oceanus Dragon, but who's counting.
Gabriel Killian heyy I know
Guts is a Lung confirmed.
hell yes! i got excited when i saw this and stopped everything i was doing to watch this! haha XD
wow, you showed a Lagiacrus from monster hunter in here. I think it would be a fun game to have the setting in one of the locations from the series, might have to suggest that to my dm friend. as half my group plays. Do you have a process for finding art for these videos or does it just happen?
I use keyword searches and just pull images that fit what I am looking for, I saw so many great tattoo designs with this topic, it was very interesting.
AJ Pickett yea MH is a game with a lot of cool monsters
very nice video as always
Could you do an ecology video on the Armands or the Harssafs?
Harssafs. yes.
I love them 😍
I think "Egyptian" gods could be called "Kien". This was supposed to be old name of their culture i'v heard...
can someone explain what this means its from the monster manual lich
This tether lasts until initiative count 20 on the next round or until the lich or the target is no longer in the lich's lair
Hot damn! Thanks AJ!
Another great video ;]
We love you, AJ!!!
Great vid AJ thank you
are they true dragons? also with are they as powerful as chromatic and metallic?
In real life, they didn't have a creature close to them other than dragon, so they were named dragon and the word lóng became synamous with dragon, thus the idea of Chinese having the name "dragon".
Zion The Dragon no im asking if theyre true dragon like do they get more powerful as the get older. But thanks for the reply anyways
@@Borkeen2024 well, as far as my knowledge goes, they WERE (Past tense) true dragons, and are listed as true dragons, BUT in original/older material, no they were not. Also, they are also listed as spirits, aka NOT living creatures in the D&D universe, so take the true-ness with BAGS of salt. And they gained more types of powers and abilities as they aged, but intelligence & powers DIDN'T increase. And they changed species, this is all in 2e. In 1e they were not.
Where are ya gettin the 5e stats for the lung dragons my dude????
This is not what I expected when I saw Lung Dragons.
Was that a Ghostbusters reference?
Very much so, yes.
It would be cool to see them in 5e
Well if the lung can control scales water creatures what about if the lung was in the same area as a black dragon would it neutralize it or what
good point . i think any mortal creature can hear the call but after a certain point with intellect and power. It could just pay it no mind like a phone call you can't stop ringing.
Its Flamey from Secret of Mana
Hey! WTF are Spirit Folk? Video, maybe?
Spirit dragons :Arsenic loving dragon that lives in the water. WTF. This is one thing you got o put in the campaign .
well this one get put on the worst dragon to fight list.
The con rolls for fight this one with that added would be insane. Every physical hit would pile up on you fighting it.
6:35 *Stare at Goku/Wukong*
i know, i know dnd dragons are not our mythical dragons, but still
That Lagiacrus doe
are lungs true dragons?
Yes
The asian Dragons of DnD.
Where can can i find more about this? A book with stats or something or campaing o with the lore or something xp
Well if I the only Asian dragons around here
[Magikarp joke]
*laugh track noise.
Do you remember me ?
Heh, yes, of course.
Spirit folk
Finally got a natural 20 on my Constitution check I'm out
That's a lagiacrus not a lung dragon lmao
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