I'm not usually the one to enjoy pointing out the negatives, but this may be the best Dice Tower video ever. The best part was when there was a standing ovation for a pun. Now I have something to strive for in my own life.
I've watched a metric ton of their top 10s, and this was absolutely the most hilarious and entertaining one! Also, I was there live for it so I got lucky. After Dark baby!
I don't care if we're talking comic con, movie / tv show casts, or whatever: I laughed harder with this panel than with any other panel dsicussion I've seen. Truly a fantastic group of people who just clicked together. And even after years of watching, I had NO idea how funny Sam actually was! It didn't seem to come through in the studio the way it does live, and that's a real shame. What a great panel!
I didn't know what to expect from the topic, but it turned out to definitely be one of the most lively, entertaining sessions. Thank you for the video and thanks for the topic pick Zee!!
Very entertaining! You guys surely had lots of fun doing this! On a side note, I just watched The Big Lebowski and I was amazed at how Sam Healey resembles John Goodman's characters angry attitude :)
By far the funniest Dice Tower Live video yet.. Really giggled during this one.. I completely agree about bad rule books being high on the list of get that out of my face... I shouldn't be more confused about how to play a game after reading a rule book then I was before I even opened the box. I also dislike cheap cardboard boxes that rip easily and paper money should be banned in games.
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This is what I always loved about top 10s (or 5s, or whatever) with Sam, Tom and Zee: not only are their reviews always on point (regardless if I enjoy a certain board game or not) with all the relevant info, but they're always entertaining as well and make me laugh like crazy. And it's amazing how much chemistry they have between each other, it never feels like the humour is forced and it never feels like the entertainment part took too much of the serious review's air space. :D
This was such a fun top 5 list! My favorite part were the OMG faces and reactions to other's entries. The best one was each person on the panel's reaction to Eric's #2. Each person had a different reaction, all hilarious. Especially the many faces of Mandi as she processed what was going on.
Loved this! I absolutely despise -Kickstarter exclusives -Striped/incomplete games that need expansions from the get go -Dummy player(s) -Semi cooperative games -games with forced partnerships that change(probably why I wont ever purchase Rising Sun)
Amazing list! @Tom and @DiceTowerSquad Any chance you could include the actual gameplay time and good player counts in your reviews? They are readily available on BGG for established games but if something is new it's difficult to assess.
This is mid 2020. And everytime I buy a games in wich cards doesn't fit when sleeved, it drives me nuts. I've got an awsome empty game box on my shelf, and a full deck box next to it to keep cards in. My number one.
Yes! Humor should come naturally from the established camaraderie of the group and not be forced through stale system mechanisms. Yes, so very much yes.
I agree with so many of these! I love this list. The one I absolutely agree with is the "dummy player". I especially dislike dummy players that are so easily "broken" like in 2 player Tokkaido
Mine is expansion cards that are a different size than the base game. Somehow, Rio Grande has managed to size twelve expansions of Dominion all perfectly. But most publishers can't get the same size right for even a single expansion. I'm looking at you, Trains and Lords of Waterdeep.
I've actually managed to use the "swap hands" mechanism in a strategic way in Saboteur 2. One of the other players kept hitting me with "take that" cards, and I wasn't getting the "undo" cards. But there's another mechanism to get rid of "take that" cards, except it reduces your hand size each time you use it. So I got rid of all the "take that" cards, got my hand size down to 2 cards, and then swapped hands with that player. I now had a full hand of cards, and she had the 2-card hand. And yeah, I don't like having everyone change places at the table. Sometimes there are reasons why people sit where they sit. Sometimes a lot of people showed up at game night, and we barely managed to get everyone around the table the first time. So now with The Captain Is Dead, we play in the order of the characters' rank, and don't try to rearrange everyone so play can move around the table clockwise.
Kickstarter Exclusives......got those OUT OF MY FACE!! Plenty of games I've passed on when I find out I can't get a large chunk of the components because they were "exclusive" content, and too many of those are pivotal to game balance. Alt art, or prints, or shirts, or none "unique game component" stuff is okay, but "the only way to get this is through our KS pre-order" turns me off so much, I won't back new game lines that have them.
Fair call, but for every game that has kickstarter exclusive components that feel like the game is incomplete and broken without them, I'd say there's at least two or three more that has kickstarter content that's utterly broken and imbalanced, and essentially ends up being a decoration. To be fair, people backing on kickstarter are putting money up well in advance and without knowing for sure whether the game is good. There's now typically no discount compared just buying the game once it hits retail once you factor in shipping costs. So kickstarters backers getting at least something for the risk they're wearing isn't unreasonable.
I don't like cooperative games a lot because other people at least think they know better than me what I should do and it makes me wonder why I'm there at all
Any game where people are required to close their eyes! Social deduction games where the deduction part is based on one action or selection that may have been the only choice that player being deduced had to play!
About player number and "the 2 player Mode at the end of the instruction" - thecliteral best board game of All Time aka Citadels does that and it is optimal for 2 or 3 (while being great at other numbers too) so like it CAN be done....
It was the first game to came to my mind regarding "dummy player". But it is different here: it is a timer for coop scenarios, regardless of player count. And it has minimal book keeping, not like doing an actual turn for somebody else.
Okay, I don't think I'm as up-to-date on The Dice Tower as I first thought I was... *Who are the two ladies in this video?* I feel like I should know them from The Dice Tower but I don't D:
ehm, Tom you've mentioned that you don't like to find out 2 players rules at the end of rulebook at at the same time you don't like it mixed.. so what do you like? Blank page?
I completely agree with Mandi's #1 (Feld games also aren't this). Also...Roll and Writes that you pay for would be my #1. I'll happily play 30 Rails over most R&W's out there.
@@kissgg666 I hope I haven't given the wrong impression. This is better than the most recent "Overrated" one with all 6 people on the panel. Nothing beats the original "Overrated" with the three guys.
Sam likes his dice chucking so much but hates roll and move. I sometimes get the impression that he makes up his lists out of one or two bad game experiences.
I'm not usually the one to enjoy pointing out the negatives, but this may be the best Dice Tower video ever.
The best part was when there was a standing ovation for a pun. Now I have something to strive for in my own life.
this has been the most entertaining of these lists ever. thanks for the laughs.
It was just as funny watching it here as it was live.
Listened to the show yesterday already - BEST in a long time Haven't laughed so hard in a while. Can't wait to watch it!
Absolutely one of the best ever. Several laugh out loud moments.
This was the funniest list ever! I tried to listen to it while I fell asleep, but I kept cracking up. I ❤️ Sam! So hilarious.
This was hilarious. Listened to it first on podcast and had to watch parts of this to full capture the visuals. Had me laughing out loud.
"I can help a little bit" truth! Thank you Zee and BSG.
Wicked awesome panel Top 5 - one of my all time favorites! Great banter and fun lists!
I've watched a metric ton of their top 10s, and this was absolutely the most hilarious and entertaining one! Also, I was there live for it so I got lucky. After Dark baby!
The ending with Sam saying "What?!" was awesome.
You folks were in rare form - best top 5 yet!
I don't care if we're talking comic con, movie / tv show casts, or whatever: I laughed harder with this panel than with any other panel dsicussion I've seen. Truly a fantastic group of people who just clicked together. And even after years of watching, I had NO idea how funny Sam actually was! It didn't seem to come through in the studio the way it does live, and that's a real shame. What a great panel!
I miss Sam on these top 10 (or 5) lists dearly, and that is no slight against Mike who has stepped in gracefully.
I didn't know what to expect from the topic, but it turned out to definitely be one of the most lively, entertaining sessions. Thank you for the video and thanks for the topic pick Zee!!
The 6 of you just work, absolutely love it - please do it more.
That was extremely entertaining. I hope one day to meet Zee again and play some games. I love that dude.
Very entertaining! You guys surely had lots of fun doing this! On a side note, I just watched The Big Lebowski and I was amazed at how Sam Healey resembles John Goodman's characters angry attitude :)
Sam, you had me at "Programmable Movement + Take That!" 1000%!
This is so much fun! Thank you for this!! Laughing out loud every 30 seconds!
Best Dice Tower panel video I’ve seen. It’ll be hard to top this.
That was hilarious! Very good theme for a list. So nice to see you all together 😁
By far the funniest Dice Tower Live video yet.. Really giggled during this one.. I completely agree about bad rule books being high on the list of get that out of my face... I shouldn't be more confused about how to play a game after reading a rule book then I was before I even opened the box. I also dislike cheap cardboard boxes that rip easily and paper money should be banned in games.
This is what I always loved about top 10s (or 5s, or whatever) with Sam, Tom and Zee: not only are their reviews always on point (regardless if I enjoy a certain board game or not) with all the relevant info, but they're always entertaining as well and make me laugh like crazy. And it's amazing how much chemistry they have between each other, it never feels like the humour is forced and it never feels like the entertainment part took too much of the serious review's air space. :D
Great time all! Thank you!!
"It´s that a thing?!" hahahahaahahahahah!!! Still makes me laugh :)
Yeah, I just gave you the 100 thump up and I really mean it. Such a good show and very funny interactions. What a feast for geeks like us😋😉
This was such a fun top 5 list! My favorite part were the OMG faces and reactions to other's entries. The best one was each person on the panel's reaction to Eric's #2. Each person had a different reaction, all hilarious. Especially the many faces of Mandi as she processed what was going on.
I am sure Tom was worried and thinking " this is getting out hand". Amazing top 5!
The energy was fantastic! Keep it going!
That's awesome. at 35:30 Sam starts sounding exactly like Lou Costello!
I got a John Pinette vibe
I thought the same thing!
Loved this! I absolutely despise
-Kickstarter exclusives
-Striped/incomplete games that need expansions from the get go
-Dummy player(s)
-Semi cooperative games
-games with forced partnerships that change(probably why I wont ever purchase Rising Sun)
If you truly despise these things, then you might not have your priorities straight in life... ;-)
Guess you don't like dead of winter.
Amazing list! @Tom and @DiceTowerSquad Any chance you could include the actual gameplay time and good player counts in your reviews? They are readily available on BGG for established games but if something is new it's difficult to assess.
I laughed SO HARD that the cats fled the room. Great show, gang!
Awesome video guys, laughed so hard :)
Okay, "feasting the Odin" had me literally in tears
This is mid 2020. And everytime I buy a games in wich cards doesn't fit when sleeved, it drives me nuts. I've got an awsome empty game box on my shelf, and a full deck box next to it to keep cards in. My number one.
Just started to watch this... looks very good
Yes! Humor should come naturally from the established camaraderie of the group and not be forced through stale system mechanisms. Yes, so very much yes.
that felt therapeutic , it was to watch XD really loved this top 5!
One of them is meeting you. From the get go! Zee!
Stellar. Laughed the whole way through
One of your best great job
Loved seeing the whole crew together! This is a great (and funny from the get go) episode!
Zee was savage this episode!
I agree with so many of these! I love this list. The one I absolutely agree with is the "dummy player". I especially dislike dummy players that are so easily "broken" like in 2 player Tokkaido
Great stuff! Would be awesome to see Sam, Mandi and Suzanne back in a Dice Tower line-up.
To Mandi’s point (#2)- whenever my kids play Sushi Go Party they ask why the sushi on the tin aren’t in the game.
Damn.... Next show should be "therapy with the dice tower"! Lol
Haha awesome episode, made me laugh multiple times.
Hilarious guys! I had fun listening to this one
What a comedy trio. And there is no slapstick involved. I am reconsidering playing board games after watching you guys for a while.
everyone killed it
what a show
On #2 Sam started to remind me of Abbot and Costello, Costello in particular. Hilarious great panel.
56:32 I sooo want a GIF of that Zee moment ! :D
Someone is going to make a fart game and on the back of the box it's going to say, Suzanne from the Dice Towers says, "I like farts!"
That was great. Great.
I was there on the side you can’t see me haha this was funny to watch
Easily the funniest broadcast since Kaka Attack!
"And number 1 is 'That Gun' get That Gun out of my face!"
Mine is expansion cards that are a different size than the base game. Somehow, Rio Grande has managed to size twelve expansions of Dominion all perfectly. But most publishers can't get the same size right for even a single expansion. I'm looking at you, Trains and Lords of Waterdeep.
that was so fun!
I've actually managed to use the "swap hands" mechanism in a strategic way in Saboteur 2. One of the other players kept hitting me with "take that" cards, and I wasn't getting the "undo" cards. But there's another mechanism to get rid of "take that" cards, except it reduces your hand size each time you use it. So I got rid of all the "take that" cards, got my hand size down to 2 cards, and then swapped hands with that player. I now had a full hand of cards, and she had the 2-card hand.
And yeah, I don't like having everyone change places at the table. Sometimes there are reasons why people sit where they sit. Sometimes a lot of people showed up at game night, and we barely managed to get everyone around the table the first time. So now with The Captain Is Dead, we play in the order of the characters' rank, and don't try to rearrange everyone so play can move around the table clockwise.
So sad I missed this in person..this has got to be the funniest top 5! Thanx ya'll... you're hilarious and make a great team.
It was a shame they scheduled things like the Clank! tournament at the same time.
Kickstarter Exclusives......got those OUT OF MY FACE!! Plenty of games I've passed on when I find out I can't get a large chunk of the components because they were "exclusive" content, and too many of those are pivotal to game balance.
Alt art, or prints, or shirts, or none "unique game component" stuff is okay, but "the only way to get this is through our KS pre-order" turns me off so much, I won't back new game lines that have them.
Fair call, but for every game that has kickstarter exclusive components that feel like the game is incomplete and broken without them, I'd say there's at least two or three more that has kickstarter content that's utterly broken and imbalanced, and essentially ends up being a decoration.
To be fair, people backing on kickstarter are putting money up well in advance and without knowing for sure whether the game is good. There's now typically no discount compared just buying the game once it hits retail once you factor in shipping costs. So kickstarters backers getting at least something for the risk they're wearing isn't unreasonable.
Good people having a good time. Isn't that what gaming is all about? Thanks for the laughs.
Saw an older list just before this. Someone have really interesting playsessions with Eric Lang...
This made me smile on Monday morning; with some guffaws on the side.
Did Sam just do a little Lou Costello imitation there?
Starring the top of my head far left front row.
Doesn't the A Feast for Odin expansion actually lower the number of available spaces at less than full player count??
Dice Tower best Top "Something" Video nominee
To this day I’m still curious which game mandi meant when she talked about the covers
Susanne is my spirit animal
I don't like cooperative games a lot because other people at least think they know better than me what I should do and it makes me wonder why I'm there at all
Any game where people are required to close their eyes!
Social deduction games where the deduction part is based on one action or selection that may have been the only choice that player being deduced had to play!
Lol Sam and the ending
About player number and "the 2 player Mode at the end of the instruction" - thecliteral best board game of All Time aka Citadels does that and it is optimal for 2 or 3 (while being great at other numbers too) so like it CAN be done....
Mage Knight had about 4 of the things mentioned and in my opinion it is fantastic.
It was the first game to came to my mind regarding "dummy player". But it is different here: it is a timer for coop scenarios, regardless of player count. And it has minimal book keeping, not like doing an actual turn for somebody else.
Okay, I don't think I'm as up-to-date on The Dice Tower as I first thought I was...
*Who are the two ladies in this video?* I feel like I should know them from The Dice Tower but I don't D:
Mandi and I are co-hosts of The Dice Tower podcast. I also cover board game apps for The Dice Tower (my segments air in Board Game Breakfast)
@@425suzanne PLEASE tell me what the whole roll and write thing is about? You guys are awesome btw!
Zee's semi-coop zombie game is Dead of Winter (as you probably already know).
ehm, Tom you've mentioned that you don't like to find out 2 players rules at the end of rulebook at at the same time you don't like it mixed.. so what do you like? Blank page?
I tried multiple times to watch this vdo but it's always stuck in the middle somewhere...
the "trade hands" card ruined "dale of merchants". we never play with that faction. considering there are 5 factions....
Speaking of horror... USAopoly is actually making "It" versions of Monopoly and Clue.
I completely agree with Mandi's #1 (Feld games also aren't this). Also...Roll and Writes that you pay for would be my #1. I'll happily play 30 Rails over most R&W's out there.
Sam was on fire!
6:29 The game Tom has in mind is probably [Gas Out]. (If it was Zee, though, it'd be "PRRRT...")
Zee: Card games
Sam: I agree
:D
Man, Zee's number #1 is on point, don't get why they keep making those.
Nemesis is a semi-cooperative game that really works for my game group.
I Lol'd so much
Funny stuff guys!
This was fantastic. Even better than the Overrated one.
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It is great but the Overrated one is a classic! Cannot be beaten so easily!
@@kissgg666
I hope I haven't given the wrong impression. This is better than the most recent "Overrated" one with all 6 people on the panel. Nothing beats the original "Overrated" with the three guys.
@@Mentat1231 Ah, yes, I was referring to the original Overrated list.
@@kissgg666 You mean the one which lead to the disclamer, Tom does now always before handing the microphone to the audience?
Omg! Zee at 1:06:58! I laughed so hard.
Best top "5" list yet!!!!! Bring on the HATE!!!!! I think we all appreciate going "off the reservation"!!!!!!
The funniest board game live panel I've seen.
Roll and bite!!!
Eric - good on you for having a reusable water bottle!
Unfriendly blind bidding is the correct way to do it imo. Why should you get anything from..not winning? It's a gamble mechanic and that's the point.
Sam likes his dice chucking so much but hates roll and move. I sometimes get the impression that he makes up his lists out of one or two bad game experiences.
Agree with the After Dark thing. However, Telestrations After Dark needs to do a reprint :D