STOP DOING THIS OR KEEP LOSING (Ep. 7 - Logical Chess Move by Move)

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  • Welcome to Episode 7 of this "Book Club" series where we are currently going through the book: Logical Chess - Move by Move by Irving Chernev
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Komentáře • 104

  • @michaelhennessy4754
    @michaelhennessy4754 Před 28 dny +54

    There are a few CZcams channels which go through this book but this is the only one which gives proper commentary and explanation. Thank you so much for a wonderful series.

    • @RyanKrauss
      @RyanKrauss Před 22 dny

      This is a really, really good series

  • @Lasidar
    @Lasidar Před 28 dny +11

    A theme in a lot of the games we have reviewed so far is to avoid pushing king pawns due to the weaknesses it creates. However, quite often Stockfish indicates a move like h6 or h3 is the best move to avoid knights/bishops coming to g5 or g4. How can we know when the benefit of pushing h6/h3 is worth the cost of the weakness it creates?

    • @user-du8vq5xn8b
      @user-du8vq5xn8b Před 19 dny +3

      I hear that pushing the h pawn generally doesn't create as much weaknesses as pushing g or f pawns
      Edit : (because they opens diagonals, pushing the h pawn doesn't)

  • @chriselcombe847
    @chriselcombe847 Před 28 dny +8

    This is my favourite series on CZcams! I look forward to it every Friday. Thank you Nelson!

  • @timm439
    @timm439 Před 28 dny +7

    I thought of rook takes bishop first, but then couldn't find a good follow up, so abandoned it. Interesting to learn that you don't necessarily need a follow up in this situation because of the dark square weakness it creates long-term.

  • @clashwithsmoke8711
    @clashwithsmoke8711 Před 28 dny +12

    11:16
    "Rooks are not as good as bishops", probably meant it the other way.

    • @vishesh31926
      @vishesh31926 Před 9 dny

      Rooks work only in end game but in the middle game bishop is more valuable

  • @carrija
    @carrija Před 28 dny +18

    this series is so good. always excited to see that there is a new video out!!

  • @AmitKumar-ze4tv
    @AmitKumar-ze4tv Před 26 dny

    Sir, I've been following you for so many days, and I think your teaching style and game analysis techniques are really good. You make the chess UNDERSTANDABLE. Thank you. Keep bringing the good stuffs...

  • @gene61ob
    @gene61ob Před 24 dny +1

    I have watched several of your videos and may buy the Chernev book. I had Reuben Fine's book, in paperback, about fifty years ago, but I think I learned more from watching your videos that related to it than from owning the actual volume. Some of us only really start to learn when all the other possibilities have been exhausted!

  • @melfordjohn8189
    @melfordjohn8189 Před 17 dny

    Nicely done!

  • @glazedyeti2993
    @glazedyeti2993 Před 28 dny +6

    Good morning Nelson. Hope you have a great day 😊

  • @Josiah_Harder
    @Josiah_Harder Před 28 dny +2

    This is my favorite chess channel

  • @user-du3ft3uj1g
    @user-du3ft3uj1g Před 26 dny

    iam very grateful for your videos because they helped me play chess with knowledge thank you so much nelson

  • @Fudaddy336
    @Fudaddy336 Před 19 dny

    Great tips

  • @devinwilso
    @devinwilso Před 21 dnem +1

    By far my favorite series right now! I would recommend using the link provided in the description to purchase the book. I went and found it on my own and my edition has super weird notations like Kt to KB3 instead of calling it c3. If you get the linked book then you should have the correct edition with the modern notations. 💪🏼🤓

  • @ChessMastery-ce6sx
    @ChessMastery-ce6sx Před 23 dny

    Thank you for your videos

  • @hunkydory1862
    @hunkydory1862 Před 28 dny

    I bought this book based on your recommendation. It'd great! Thanks for the content!

  • @nelsonlopez1228
    @nelsonlopez1228 Před 26 dny

    Great video ❤

  • @DilyanChavdarov
    @DilyanChavdarov Před 28 dny

    Thanks for your content ! I think it's very instructive and the explanations are unique. Also I want to ask you if it is possible for you to do a video on what to play against 1.Nf3 please because I'm a bit struggling on this move.

  • @NJDJ1986
    @NJDJ1986 Před 28 dny +1

    it's another good evening when Nelson uploads Logical chess series!
    @11:02 more like in any viewers out there have been GothamChess, white sacrifice THE ROOK!

  • @elkeschmelzer9052
    @elkeschmelzer9052 Před 28 dny +1

    Nice series. Do i understand correctly: when you have finished the book you will continue Puzzle Island?

  • @ChessMastery-ce6sx
    @ChessMastery-ce6sx Před 23 dny

    Try to continue this series It’s so fun

  • @gene61ob
    @gene61ob Před 24 dny +1

    Thanks!

  • @adeck79
    @adeck79 Před 28 dny +1

    Great video. It doesn’t help me yet as I’m only 930 but hopefully in a near future. 🙂 Got a question: at what ranking players start thinking that way? Thanks.

  • @raymohyde422
    @raymohyde422 Před 15 dny

    Brilliant

  • @isaiahelder3584
    @isaiahelder3584 Před 28 dny +2

    Nelson really is Chess vibes!

  • @ArjanD78
    @ArjanD78 Před 26 dny

    Great! I was waiting for a good moment to pay my question, but you already answered it in this episode:
    "What rook to choose from?"
    Are there any more things to consider? Maybe in general, seperate from this game?

  • @suyashpandit5057
    @suyashpandit5057 Před 28 dny +1

    Hey Nelson, great series! I have one question: Black played g6 before castling. Why can't black then try to castle queenside, knowing that castling kingside could be vulnerable to a dark square attack? For example, at 10:30, instead of 0-0, why not Be6, escaping the pin while also preparing to move the queen and castle long?

  • @ChessMastery-ce6sx
    @ChessMastery-ce6sx Před 23 dny

    Nice game Nelson

  • @farouqbaiti4315
    @farouqbaiti4315 Před 28 dny

    Remember the last question, thanks for answering it.
    I had the same thinking as the others.
    By the way, I knew all the brilliant moves including Rxe7 without a book.

  • @farhanhussain_
    @farhanhussain_ Před 27 dny

    Hi Nelson. What is your viewpoint if at 10:33 the black had moved it's knight to G8? It would give additional support to the pinned bishop and also guard the weakened dark squares f6 & g6.

  • @thomasbecker54
    @thomasbecker54 Před 11 dny

    Hello,
    Thank you very much for the great explanations, but I have a question:
    In the last few episodes you said that you should attack immediately when your pieces are better developed. But here you say (tip 5): Wait with your attack until all your pieces are ready and developed. How can I tell whether I should wait or attack?

  • @martinmelhus7324
    @martinmelhus7324 Před 20 dny

    Nelson, FWIW, I have an older version of the book, and the page numbers don't line up. In mine, each new game starts immediately after the previous game ends, not on a new page. That said, I have no problem telling where you are, just wish my version had new pages for new games.

  • @MellopellowChesss
    @MellopellowChesss Před 16 dny

    I really like tip 7, long term weaknesses are so cool. Slowly obliterating your opponent whilst down material.

  • @quangan1288
    @quangan1288 Před 28 dny +1

    16:14 black can still technically prevent the checkmate by … Qxd4 Qxd4 f6. It’s still a lost game though.

  • @farouqbaiti4315
    @farouqbaiti4315 Před 28 dny

    14:22 What about Nfe4 using the same idea? Is it the "same" idea?

  • @christianfrost8660
    @christianfrost8660 Před 27 dny

    So, openings like the King's Indian are related to Tip NO.7 where the Bishop is moved to g7 to cover f6 & h6?

  • @rasmachris94
    @rasmachris94 Před 7 dny

    The main reason i see that weakening king side was a bad move was because most of those pawns are on light squares and white only has a dark square bishop.
    This means it's inviting the bishop to take away safe squares from the king if they castle that side, which is likely given their darksquare bishop and queen have yet to develop.

  • @truberthefighter9256
    @truberthefighter9256 Před 21 dnem

    8:00 A question: Can white castle long here?

  • @anandgau1
    @anandgau1 Před 28 dny

    13:30 can you play Nh5 after Bf5.

  • @joesweeney1712
    @joesweeney1712 Před 27 dny

    At 16:19 what happens if black plays knight take knight followed by a fork on white's king and queen on the next move?

  • @eck3483
    @eck3483 Před 28 dny

    Why did white castle kingside instead of queenside?

  • @liamsun2543
    @liamsun2543 Před 25 dny

    10:21 what if Ng1? It might be ugly but the g5 bishop no longer has good squares and black can play Be6 for example, if white's DSB is traded then g6 is fine I guess?

  • @jineylixon8297
    @jineylixon8297 Před 28 dny

    What if after g6 black try to develop queen and bishop and castles queen side

  • @user-kg4or7so1t
    @user-kg4or7so1t Před 28 dny +1

    I was actually thinking about the 'Rook takes e7' exchange sacrifice.

  • @nicolasjanssens5166
    @nicolasjanssens5166 Před 4 dny

    I love these videos
    At 11min you said/posted a problem
    Take a break then give the answer
    Is't possible to have a clue in between it?

  • @nagegowdac5286
    @nagegowdac5286 Před 28 dny

    at 3:02 I think knight c3 to e2 is better in my opinion as you can protect the d4 pawn with pawn c3 in future
    white can also rotate that knight around to g3 to get more attackers. why is this plan not that good

  • @twiduha
    @twiduha Před 28 dny +2

    7:09 Isnt Bh6 from white also a powerful option rather than castling? Indeed castling is a good move but what about Bh6? Thank you Nelson

    • @lucienhiemsta4805
      @lucienhiemsta4805 Před 28 dny +2

      Bh6 isnt really threatening anything. It also give black time to castle queenside in the long run. As you could see from what was played in the game. Keeping the B on g5 puts a lot of pressure on the knight. (Castling kingside isn't even that good, but because there is so much power behind white's attack. They kinda have to.

    • @twiduha
      @twiduha Před 28 dny

      ​@@lucienhiemsta4805yeah but its hard for balck to ve able to castle queenside because everytime black's light squared B moves, b7 gets snatched with Qb5+, and if bd7 from black preventing Qb5+, then black's queen cant be developed.

    • @lucienhiemsta4805
      @lucienhiemsta4805 Před 28 dny +1

      @@twiduha First of all, you dont have to develop the bishop to d7 in order to stop Qb5+. You can also play c3, which gives more room for the black queen to develop and allows the Bishop on d6 a home. Second of all, another possibility is playing Ng5, attacking the bishop on h6, so the bishop has to drop back (notice that Bg7 falls short, because of Rg8 and the bishop is trapped (ofc going to e4 isn't any good).

    • @lucienhiemsta4805
      @lucienhiemsta4805 Před 28 dny

      Castling short for white, keeps more of the pressure in short.

  • @alimollahosseini7838
    @alimollahosseini7838 Před 28 dny +3

    What about Q e3 instead of Qf4

    • @farouqbaiti4315
      @farouqbaiti4315 Před 28 dny +1

      I had the same thinking.
      I wish he sees my comment too.

  • @user-qb4rn9nz6m
    @user-qb4rn9nz6m Před 28 dny

    Let's goooo🎉🎉🎉

  • @amorphousblob2721
    @amorphousblob2721 Před 28 dny

    I hope you're doing an analysis of what they're calling the "banned gambit". I'd like to see a video on why so many grandmasters have fallen to it in spite Stockfish computing that it's an absolutely horrible opening.

  • @QwDragon
    @QwDragon Před 28 dny

    17:54 What if Qxf6, Nxf6+, Kg7? Do white have enough pieces to checkmate?

  • @unbelievable8043
    @unbelievable8043 Před 28 dny

    After Rook e1,why black wouldnt play bishop e6

  • @farouqbaiti4315
    @farouqbaiti4315 Před 28 dny

    You're always teaching us as Chess CZcamsr:
    I wanna ask you about something:
    13:41 What about Qxf5? Isn't Qg3 maybe slow?

    • @DevastatorViper
      @DevastatorViper Před 28 dny +1

      It sets a discovered check and takes advantage of the open g file

  • @Lol_lets__play_chess
    @Lol_lets__play_chess Před 28 dny

    I like this series qn how to win a won game like when Ur opponent makes any mistake and we can take the advantage in my games also m up some material or my position is good but I can't convert

  • @chagantidineshreddy3332

    in Ep.6

  • @GunNut37086
    @GunNut37086 Před 28 dny

    @16:33 when black takes the knight with the King, isn't black up w/ 2 rooks and a bishop vs a queen and a rook?

    • @Olegtnt
      @Olegtnt Před 28 dny +1

      yes that is also not clear to me. Why a queen for white is better than a rook + bishop for black?

  • @thirdycelebrado9606
    @thirdycelebrado9606 Před 27 dny

    Nelsi why we sac the rook a rook the most powerful pieces

  • @christianfrost8660
    @christianfrost8660 Před 27 dny +1

    What if Black sees the danger and decides to cut their losses and sacrifices the Queen for the Bishop and says I at least got a Rook for the Queen and the attack on the dark squares had become weaker?

    • @ucifer_c3036
      @ucifer_c3036 Před 12 dny

      Just play normal chess bro you are a queen up

  • @joewest2560
    @joewest2560 Před 7 dny

    So pawn f3 is less super awkward and bad than ph3??? Not to mention h3 STILL leaves the knight's placement options open. Sorry, does not compute

  • @remcovanhartevelt588
    @remcovanhartevelt588 Před 25 dny

    15:40 maybe black has a Nxe4 Bxe7 Nd2 Bf6+ and lose either way

  • @Loliloliloli348
    @Loliloliloli348 Před 28 dny

    Hi nelson

  • @coenkuijpers1800
    @coenkuijpers1800 Před 28 dny

    How does fianchetto your bishop relate to this, because you also move your g-pawn.

    • @danielj.8876
      @danielj.8876 Před 28 dny +1

      The fianchetto'd bishop takes care of the weaknesses that the pawn push created, it's an excellent defending piece.

  • @ITS_MINE_
    @ITS_MINE_ Před 28 dny

    10:30 after Kf8, will Rxf7 be a good move

    • @DevastatorViper
      @DevastatorViper Před 28 dny

      Yes but black can play qxe7 and not lose the pawn but it's still a lost position

  • @stuartmontgomery5935
    @stuartmontgomery5935 Před 12 dny

    10:00 tip 6 why black not put white bishop on E6 block the rook then move u queen nxt move then castle the other side sure that been better would got but his rook in the game and his white bishop was doing nothing the other way

  • @chagantidineshreddy3332

    nelson after Bd6 g3 Bg4 then White can play Bf4

  • @farouqbaiti4315
    @farouqbaiti4315 Před 28 dny

    I wanna ask a funny question:
    21:44 Isn't En Passant for Black bad? Because, after En Passant they will be able to play Bf4 double attacking our Queen and skewering our Queen to the Bishop. We should move our Queen and then lose our Bishop without any compensation.

  • @thirdycelebrado9606
    @thirdycelebrado9606 Před 27 dny

    I know why

  • @ChessBros-ic5tz
    @ChessBros-ic5tz Před 28 dny

    Couldn't black sacrifice his queen at 17:09 in the video.wouldnt that stop the checkmate threat even though he's down in material

    • @ConradAdamsMrJUMBO
      @ConradAdamsMrJUMBO Před 28 dny

      If black gives up its queen for a white minor piece, then there is still a white queen and a white minor piece which are both ready to take advantage of the dark square weaknesses on black’s kingside, and the checkmate threat cannot be stopped.

  • @Psycho250785
    @Psycho250785 Před 28 dny +3

    He sacrificed THE ROOK!

  • @charlesglidden557
    @charlesglidden557 Před 14 dny

    You said it backwards you ment bishops are not as good as rooks

  • @ChessMastery-ce6sx
    @ChessMastery-ce6sx Před 23 dny

    I like it

  • @JBfromFL
    @JBfromFL Před 27 dny

    R A T I N G S
    C L I M B
    😮😊
    with respect and love ❤️ 😊

  • @thirdycelebrado9606
    @thirdycelebrado9606 Před 27 dny

    Just tell me why ok

  • @thirdycelebrado9606
    @thirdycelebrado9606 Před 27 dny

    Ok never mind

  • @basketballspinner
    @basketballspinner Před 21 dnem +1

    i stopped playing chess, its either boring when I win or aggravating when playing against a cheater

  • @caio5987
    @caio5987 Před 28 dny

    Could you do things for more advanced players?
    Beyond 1200 you don’t see people moving the pawns in front of the king anymore

    • @flotto7045
      @flotto7045 Před 28 dny +1

      Bro no offense, but we 1200-1500 rated players are complete noobs

    • @caio5987
      @caio5987 Před 28 dny +1

      @@flotto7045 I’m sorry but if you’re 1500 and still making these basic mistakes are in this video then I’ve no idea how you got there

  • @dineshpr4541
    @dineshpr4541 Před 28 dny +1

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  • @ahmadmichael5573
    @ahmadmichael5573 Před 14 dny

    sorry forgrot tro subscribe