Bob and Margaret: Canada's Finest, Daftest Cartoon for Adults - TheCartoonGamer
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- A British-Canadian animated series from 1998 that I took a chance on one day... and I liked it so much I dropped everything and made a whole striking video about it. I hope this show has the same effect for other people, too!
Special thanks to Bob and Margaret creators Alison Snowden and David Fine for the info provided, and for making such as great show to boot:
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Lily Snowden-Fine's Site: lilysnowdenfine.com/
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Footage from:
RetroCCN: • O Canada promo 1997
SomeOldVideos:
• Bob and Margaret - Glo...
• Bob & Margaret, Entert...
Tromboybk: / watchv=e2wbfhbxnju&lis...
Retrontario: • MARK DAILEY - CITYTV E...
Digitize Everything: • Bob and Margaret Comme...
RabbitFilmMakerTV: / @rabbitfilmmakertv
Tom McGillis: • Behind The DRAMA with ...
NFB Stuff:
Bob's Birthday: • Bob's Birthday
Blackfly: • Blackfly
Animal Behaviour: www.nfb.ca/film/animal_behavi...
Oscar Winner Snippet 1995:
• Short Film Winners: 19...
Fenwick's Television Archive (Comedy Central Bumps):
/ @tvsfenwick
/ watchv=ep5ufzwialm&ab_...
Further Reading:
AWN Article 1998: www.awn.com/mag/issue3.4/3.4p...
Tampa Bay Article June '98: www.tampabay.com/archive/1998...
Globe and Mail Bob Marg Season 3/4:
web.archive.org/web/202206251...
YTV Fall Programming 2005: www.channelcanada.com/canadia...
O Canada: www.thefreelibrary.com/O+Cana...
Snowden-Fine page circa 2003: web.archive.org/web/2003010112...
Bob's Birthday page circa 2002: web.archive.org/web/2002060116...
YTV Schedule Dec. 2005: web.archive.org/web/2005121222...
#BobandMargaret #YTV #Canada #comedycentral - Hry
Bob and Margaret aired in México on Adult Swim, PEOPLE HATED IT! this was not the raunchy humor and anime that teens watched adult swim for, but the people behind the programming on Adult Swim, loved trolling them with it, they made Bob and Margaret marathons, used it to fill the schedule and made many bumpers telling stuff like "You have asked us to remove Bob and Margaret and air more anime, this will be known as the Bob and Margaret Chanel"
If you have any video footage of that, I'd love to see it!
@@TheCartoonGamer8000 Here is an example of one of those Adult Swim Bumpers, basically they are tellin the viewer that if they keep asking for anime, they will remove all the anime from Toonami and replace it with Bob and Margaret czcams.com/video/QrBn6jIc3UQ/video.html
If the channel was Locomotion then is the reason why I keep quoting 2 of the 3 seasons way too often
fucking sad how the mexicans never saw the appeal to the show
@Khaled Shanshal It was aired at appropriate times, not when kids would likely be watching of course.
The popularity of Bob and Margert's run on Global makes a lot of sense. My first exposure to B&M was actually through my grandma. She caught it on Global one night and told me she found an animated show she actually liked, that was better than that "silly Simpsons" I'd watch everyday after school (Fox would air a lot of early 2000 reruns at the time, it was pretty silly stuff). Despite not taking that claim seriously and writing off the show as a "Grandma show" until YTV's airings, she was basically right!
On the topic of the show's transition to Canada, I remember thinking it was revolutionary at the time YTV first aired it. Too many adult animated shows would tease major course altering storylines that would ultimately amount to nothing, yet here was Bob and Margret doubling down on real change. Seeing it for the first time, I thought the feel and dynamic in Canada helped to inject a new energy to the series that could have grown potentially stale had remained on-course. As a Canadian, I thought it was great seeing more relatable occurrences happening in the plots and how entertaining it was to see Brits adjusting to our ways of life, not to mention more Cookie and Melvin!
Speaking of Cookie, Jayne Eastwood's first voice role I really took an interest in was her unseen waitress character you'd hear closing up the dinner that Freaky Stories took place in. I always liked to think that the two shows somehow took place in the same universe, hahah!
Yeah, I initially wrote B&M off as "unexciting", but after watching it, well, you know!
And yeah, I'll give it to the Canada seasons for actually sticking to a big change and presenting new opportunities for the duo. I still think there could've been some more stories told in the UK, but going to Canada made for a pleasant surprise, and them being in Mississauga also hit home for me personally. I also gotta see/hear more of Eastwood's work - I remember when I was rewatching B&M before making this video, my Mother was watching a movie with her in it, and I instantly recognized that voice of hers when I entered the room. Also showed up in a Degrassi while I was channel surfing one night haha.
Have recently rewatched with friends in London and none of them have heard of it but loved the show. The British voice actors are quite famous comedic actors in the UK.
This show was brilliant. I remember watching the first 2 series on Channel 4 in the UK when i was like 12/13. Also series 3 and 4 were shown in the UK on a channel called FTN if anyone remembers that around 2003 as i had never seen the Canadian series prior to that. I remember on FTN it was shown alongside Dilbert.
Wow, truly a throwback. I vaguely remember them being on a nude beach when this show was on Comedy Central in the late 90s
episode was the holiday
Until it left the channel by May 20th 2000 after airing the last episode of Season 2!
Music List:
Bob Variation 1 - Patrick Godfrey
Bob Variation 2 - Patrick Godfrey
Bottles' House - Banjo-Tooie
Market Square - Wallace and Gromit: The Curse of the Were - Rabbit Game
Athletic Theme - Wallace and Gromit: The Curse of the Were - Rabbit Game
Windy and Co - Conker: Live and Reloaded
Inkwell Isle Four (Piano) - Cuphead DLC
New Donk City Cafe - Super Mario Odyssey
Home Cookin' - Crash 4: It's About Time
Porkrind's Provisions - Cuphead DLC
Frantic Fountains - Yooka Laylee and the Impossible Lair
Bob Variation 6 - Patrick Godfrey
Bob Variation 4 - Patrick Godfrey
Credits - Bob and Margaret
Chef Saltbaker - Cuphead DLC
I went for a very classy, British-sounding soundtrack, if you couldn't tell.
Was very happy to hear those W&G tracks!
@@MIKERPHONE Thanks very much for suggesting them! Fit the mood just right!
Dang, I remember you mentioning the show awhile back, you must've been brewing this video up since last year! Great work man, I may check out the first couple of seasons per your recommendation 👍
I actually started making the video back in mid-June, but you could say the seeds were planted after I first watched it last year. It wasn't until watching it a second time where I went "I gotta talk about this in a video".
An absolutely great video! I'd love to hear you talk about more Canadian cartoon shows.
Thanks! I certainly have some plans for more!
Funniest part besides that naked lady was when bob made all the AA guys drink
Yup, that killed me. And what naked lady - I think there's a few haha.
@@TheCartoonGamer8000 the one that they switched pictures with and they saw her naked and everything bob saw her he imagined her naked
@@starjun97 Ah yes, that one.
Actually dude, we in America caught on to Peppa Pig back in 2005. There it was dubbed by a completely different American cast, and the dub has been considered lost media. I can recall catching an episode here or there.
I know it aired earlier than that, but it wasn't until the mid-2010s where I remember seeing a huge influx of Peppa popularity from the States.
@@TheCartoonGamer8000 Makes sense. Tickle U kinda fell on the wayside.
10:18 Not only that but Bob's actor from season one Andy Hamilton is now a voice on Peppa Pig
Thanks for making a video on this.
I wondered when someone was gonna do it
I remember that pilot short from O Canada. Man that's blast from the past.
I really liked this show. Those two burglars were my favorite.
It's cool to see your videos on Canadian TV!
I miss this show... I haven't seen it in years. Which is funny considering I saw this when I was in my teens. Great video dude, it was quite the insightful interview. The show also reminds me how a lot of media kind of forget how people are, it is a sort of grounded experience I don't think many really know how to write for. Especially in anime that are considered "slice of life" or have elements thereof.
6:49 he was also on an episode of Goosebumps, pretty sure he was also on Wrong Turn as well
I absolutely love Bob and Margaret it reminded of two other British animated shows called Rex The Runt and Eddsworld when it came to the overall feel and tone of the show! While I do prefer the first two seasons I won’t deny that seasons 3 and 4 are still good in there own rights!
It's the British/Canadian Simpsons
I loved this video so much!!! I watched through the entire series in the span of a week and got attached SO FAST... thank you for this; I can say for sure that B&M is now an all-time favorite of mine 💜
(I love the thumbnail art so much, btw!!! it's so cute 🥺)
Thanks so much for the kind words, and I’m glad the show became one of your favourites!
14:47 another voice actor in the Toronto seasons was Ron Pardo who i know as Mayor Humpdinger from Paw Patrol and Quest from World of Quest
This show, at the time of writing this comment, is on Pluto TV in the UK on the animation channel. That’s how I first heard of it and I’m starting to like the show after finding it recently on the app.
That’s great! Glad to hear you’re enjoying it so far.
Oh I think this is on Tubi
The first time I watched your channel was when you talked about Canadian animation and ever since, I've become a bit of a fan of your videos. If you ever do a sequel to that, I recommend you talk about Moville Mysteries! It's an underrated gem that features all types of original supernatural stories!
There’s always a chance!
I remember seeing this show somewhere on CZcams many years ago. Possibly earlier and remember it being very pleasant watch. Looking up the voice work of Doon Mackichan who was also on Stressed Eric and Smack the Pony led me to remembering Bob and Margaret! I had no idea this show had such a history or that even the original short won an Emmy!
An Oscar, actually!
I rememember this cartoon on cartoon network on "O Canada!"
I used to watch it on Adult Swin here in Brazil.
Love that you used the wallace and gromit curse of the were-rabbit game ost lol
Fun fact, the creator of Wallace and Gromit is good friends with the creators of Bob and Margaret; they all attended film school together!
The Animated Adaptation of that one book Goku and Majin Buu read.
Yes, I made that joke as well.
Never heard of it, but looks fun!
Omg i did not realized he was the pizzaville guy, kinda had a 2d voice to him but yes do see it now lol
Oh my god I started watching this show last year I loved this show!
Certainly better than brickleberry (aired on the same network comedy center)
I loved the character designs remind me of comic strips from newspapers.
Now I’ve started watching this show called the boys I loved this show
Okay I’ll stop I just really love this show.
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I'm pretty sure the french dub is lost, it was broadcast on Télé Quebec in the early 2000
BUT the French version of the Short film is on the ONF / NFB CZcams channel , uncensored
all of the first two seasons + most of the fourth season in french are up on youtube
months after: THIS SHOW IS COMING TO ADULT SWIM CA!!!
Still need to see a video adressing moville mysteries
I used to watch this on Locomotion, but like most of its programing found it too adult for me, but liked the way the characters interacted
Sounds neat
I start watching the series a few months ago I enjoyed it
I think the video title should be changed to reflect the show's status as a British-Canadian co-production. I know you elaborate in the description, but we don't need more people who only read headlines/titles assuming that the show was entirely Canadian. This is one of the rare instances where you'll actually see the collab acknowledged in the credits: it literally says "A British and Canadian co-production". My understanding is that most of the money came from Canada but that most of the cast and crew came from Britain, so it's kinda like when people call Grand Theft Auto an American franchise or Lord of the Rings an American film trilogy (America's boundless resources have enabled it to culturally asset strip the significant and unique native properties of the other Western nations, but that's a different issue, albeit one that creates a lot of resentment towards the US). That Canadian funding was the reason they _had_ to move to Canada in season 3, even if it came across as a masterstroke of animated sitcom innovation at the time.
Still, I don't mind sharing credit with Canada. CANZUK and Europe should collaborate in various permutations more often to compete with the hegemonic strength of Hollywood and their limitless supply of the US dollar. They should ideally also try to sort out the entire busted "country of origin" system in film, whereby it's almost entirely about the money, which renders essentially every big project "American" in a nominal sense and skews any attempt to quantify success (Lord of the Rings is considered a US-NZ co-production and the UK isn't even on the list, which is indicative of a broken system). Looking at the list of the hundred most valuable media franchises, it's all from America, Japan, and Britain (no other country has more than one property IIRC), but even though we're in third place by some distance, it'd help if not EVERY single one of ours was labelled "UK/US", including Harry Potter and LOTR. I can only imagine how it feels for the European countries who only have a single entry to see their local glory stolen. It's enough to make one believe in Japanese-style isolationism.
As for the demure, muted, droll, slightly glib humour of the show, it naturally went down a treat with Britons who were sufficiently open-minded to the concept of adult-oriented cartoons (as it should, since it's a very British style of comedy). It was gratifying to hear that Canadians share our more subtle - and, at the risk of sounding patronising, cerebral - sense of humour. (Ofc, that's a broad stereotype, but they exist for a reason, and psychology/sociology research consistently demonstrates that virtually all stereotypes are rooted in some degree of truth -- also that people tend to _under_estimate their validity. Nonetheless, there are many smart US sitcoms.)
This is a uk based show? The whole of the setting is set in the uk too
Yeah, it's a British-Canadian coproduction. And I think the video title should've reflected that. At least as much of the cast and crew were British as Canadian. And most of the best episodes of the best season (i.e. 1) were written exclusively by the British co-creator. Not that I wanna turn this into a war, especially when we should be united against the hegemonic juggernaut that is the US entertainment industry.
THE CAN OPENER
I know this is about Bob and Margaret, but I had no idea there was a third Ninja Turtles movie. Probably sounds like I'm lucky I didn't.
Yes. Very lucky.
I bought seasons 1-3 on Amazon Prime and every year I will watch at least a few episodes from the first 2. They are great!
But I can't watch it after season 2 primarily because of the new voice actor for Bob. His obnoxious voice ruins the whole show, and they cut out Ken, Kathy and the other best supporting characters.
There are 2 episodes rated g
I would have preferred if the show was only about Margaret
Canadian!? I thought this was British
I remenber this... Hated it. I just wanted the action cartoons or anime.