I hate it when other electricians do this. 99% of DIY could do a better job.
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- čas přidán 19. 11. 2020
- Electricians day sorting out another electricians poor work.
This is a case of 3 different electricians coming in and doing mediocre work.
The consumer unit is just damn right awful and is the icing on the cake.
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I reckon most sparks would've told the customer: "Time for a full rewire!". Honestly, there's a point where it becomes more cost-effective to snip everything and start fresh and I suspect this pot of spaghetti is well past that. I love digging through messes like this but it's not something I could bill a customer for.
I completely agree. The cost of a job is parts plus labor. When the labor cost far surpasses parts because of a "wire jungle" its just better to rethink the job with the client. If they have common sense they'll see that the high labor cost can be put to their advantage by rewiring. Yes, the parts cost will rise but the already high labor can be put to better use. For small homes like these, it interesting how often a medium to large size job can become a total rewire with only a 25 to 30% increase over the initial cost estimate. This is especially true in a case like this where so many electricians have had a hand in making the overall system progressively worse. Sadly, the good work accomplished here is getting lost in the wash.
One other point... those timbers need to be buttressed. You should not be taking whole chunks out of floor joists. Whoever thought that removing half the height of a joist was acceptable should have their license revoked.
As a decorator I am often asked by customers to fix squeaking floorboards as an extra job. Much to their amusement I always lift the boards first, have seen too many horror stories with gas , water and electric being laid in joists. Never use nails only screws, some poor soul will one day thank me when it is lifted again.
I think you did really well in those difficult conditions good to see an electrician who cares and does it right
Hi Chris the joys of a electricians life . Have to admit I had far easier to time in the industry working in the public sector, but can also relate to your world . Having done most aspects of this demanding of trades . This video is a prime example of the CRAP that the humble electrician will encounter in his or her career . Trust me even in the realms of three phase supply installations you will find Just as much rubbish . So to all you budding electricians watch and learn . Thank Chris and all your fellow utubers for promoting this key industry Kind regards Mike 👍
Thanks for sharing your work, good to see other industries.
Can't beat funky socks!
If there is ever a cable shortage, now we know why :b
Add 3 part bonding 1 part cement goes off in about 6mins 😂👍🏻 save the waiting time 👍🏻👍🏻
Great Video Chris, cleaners, removal men, carpet fitters,chippies and plasterers as well as electricians. James is one lucky guy having you showing him the ropes!
And plumber, don't forget plumber.
And a sock extraordinaire.
You guys work hard for your paycheck. The codes are so different then in the USA. The buildings are very different our codes could not be met. Enjoy your videos and how hard you work. Thanks Leo.
Great video,hard graft wiring house when it's fully furnished,I hate them sometimes you have to quote at higher price for all the messing around moving furniture around
You should of definitely put bundy10 conduit on the cable under the bath😂.... Good work as always 👍
Its good to see you’ve changed your view on using a cable socks over taping onto the rods😉
Good to see you are screwing the patresses to the brickwork in the correct manner. When my house was rewired, I later discovered that every patress was held by plaster alone. Needless to say this involved me in a load of extra work. The originals weren't properly flush either.
That was a nightmare you deserve a grand for that work. I lose it when there’s that much furniture in a room anyway. You are so patient how dyu keep calm??
Great video Chris, James is a vey lucky guy : learning his trade with you , you a great way about you , On my first year as apprenticeship,we were sometimes beaten , and constantly shouted at . We hated our jobs. Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪
Jesus that’s bad David. I was never beaten but definitely shouted out!!
That’s excellent work. You earned every penny, hope it was plenty...
Hi Chris, top quality work as always, respect it you got a spare 20 could you do a video on safe isolation and locking off, let's get Michael Story out. Keep up the good work.
"Where all the magic happens" 😂 yeah, the box of tissues said it all
With the cable sleeve/sock, reminds me of when I worked for BT. They had a much bigger version for pulling very large telecomms cables (diameter about the size of a man's arm) into external buried ductwork. Must have been a few tonnes of tension when pulling in long lengths, - but it worked ok.
18:55 those old junction boxes must have been on special offer 😆😆😆
In All Honesty, I love Australia, pretty much all installs Out of large cities are so easy because the way Aussies houses are built, we have a wonderful space from the wall or brickwork to the plasterboard. No chasing out, Very easy to figure out plus a lot of aussie homes are hi set which means they are on top of supports high enough to walk under the house. Most also dont have cavity internal walls, just a single skin between rooms so we use a lot of conduit inside as well as out. I also love roof spaces, especially when installing home surveillance and security systems. The big downer is a Queensland summer ! Roof temperatures can go above 50celcius and when you have coveralls to protect against spider bites and scalding hot roof panels, its damn hot. I honestly dont miss chasing out brickwork for sockets and cable runs.. Cheers Chris for all you do, love the videos mate..
That fuse box is a mess 😮 I feel your pain ! 🤦♂️ personally I couldn’t leave a job like that , as I’ve found there’s some very scruffy people out there
Good call on not weakening those already deeply-notched joists by any further drilling. I reckon safeplates would have been a sensible addition though. Yes, the cables were in the center of the floorboard where no intrusion SHOULD happen, but one should reasonably cater for what MIGHT happen. IMHO.
For doing your filling try using a gaudeing trowel rather than a filling knife. Significantly easier and quicker.
Why the frick did they want a double socket between rad and the door 😬. Nice work anyway 👍
"Why do it?" - pride. That's why. Not enough of it these days.
Pride what have lions got to do with it🤨
Keep up the great work and thanks for the awesome content stay safe and take care
My dad was an electrician. He once got housemaids knee and after that lesson learnt! Always had a kneeling pad or knee pads after that.
Client: "Can you look at this outlet for me?"
CJR: *Does refactoring of the whole system by literally rebuilding the house*
Good job -- cool video :)
Hi. I see. Good to know. Thanks for the info and quick reply. I enjoy your videos.
Tracing out and tidying up crap like that is actually my favourite part of the work :D
About 30 years ago, a house I worked in, the previous owner had it rewired by contracting division of the then electricity supplier.There were boxes in the loft, they had just slung the cables over the boxes, reused old joint boxes.Did three plate in a bathroom pull switch, not something I have ever seen done before or since.Interconnected the ring both ring mains, so both circuit breakers had to be off to isolate them.Great bunches of cables , plus a lot of other things, definatley a case of crash and bash.
I'm sorry but this is the kind of content I love sitting here trying to work it out in my brain trying to guess what's what.
I became an apprentice last week and have the same socks James had. It must be a pattern
Please do wear shoes or boots to protect your feet but you can get over booties. Even domestically, you can hurt your feet.
Yeh u can get socks that go over ur shoes to cover shoes
I use a pair of Mukguard over shoes, you never take your shoes off, you never know what may be lying around, even in nice houses.
Worth wearing dealer boots, then you can just have outside ones, slip them off at the door and inside ones on.
Better than stepping on a gripper rod or dropped screw!
Not a bad job for a plumber! Great work Chris.
Definitely a job to sort out the men from the boys well done mate got it sorted in the end
This is why i always keep a half bag of plaster bonding . You can do a quick fill and it will go off quickly allowing you to put a finish coat on and then finish job quickly. Or use some new plaster and add a bit of cement to make it go off quickly
Tiger balm ideally the flying tiger balm version put it on knees it will help with blood flow and wear some knee pads. Use your adjustable seat.
should be a duty to report dodgy electricians work that way it weeds out the incompetent and two it improves the quality of work from those capable but not bothered. I say this because we are responsible for peoples lives. we are paid to provide a service but not at the expense of peoples safety anyone who disagrees can get in the bin. The fact anyone can bodge their own electrics endangers the occupiers. you can smell gas which is explosive. you cant sense by smell sight or sound conductors at a potential which could very well end someone's life. Hire competent electricians and check reviews to make sure like CJR and many others they have a good reputation with examples of their installations.
Genuinely think fixing shit work is at least 25% of the job market. Don't knock it.
Two issues with reporting dodgy sparks - firstly you have to know who was responsible & secondly the accreditation bodies aren't very good at dealing with the less professional members.
Hi, been there and as you rightly say you can't really train an apprentice the skills required to deal with the nightmare you had to contend with overnight. I have also had in a similar situation where the person with you is unable to work on for genuine reasons which is not an easy thing to explain that you have to be very flexible in more ways than one in this type of trade to a trainee. Keep up the good work and stay safe.
hi, can you share the link where you buy this red cable thong, i have one but there no attachments and i forced to fabricate them
This is so why I never did domestic electrical work, heavy industrial is much easier
Totally agree
House bashing is a nightmare, especially while it's still occupied. Give me industrial every time (or even commercial)
Shhh, they're doing a great job.
What a mess. Chris good job to sort it out, hard job
Hey Chris where did you get the super rod tongue, i have the CK glow in dark one but i like the one your useing with the attachment
keep on with the vids
cheers
It's facinating how often I see you having to work around furniture that the owner could have moved before you showed up. It saves on damage, time for work, time for clean up etc. What's the issue...lazy, stupid, apathetic, or looking to sue for damaging their junk?
Clients very rarely move stuff in advance, it’s up to the sparks to state that the furniture needs moving or tidying up or extra costs will be involved.
David Savery, in his quotation video says he puts it in his quotation that the client moves the furniture otherwise it'll get billed. Makes sense.
I would say maybe 2 out of 10 customers, will move stuff out of the way for you
Why remove furniture? Electricity comes from wallsockets!
@@ralfbaechle dumbest reply I've ever seen
What's a ratchet? Same as a mouse shit - only BIGGER! (@ 5.53)
Put a conduit box lid over the cables on the joists
A bit of a hornets nest there. Like you say, they don't teach that at the college. Good job👍
"We got a mouse living under here" --- I'm guessing that's another skill they don't teach, "identify the rodent species by their droppings" or "yes large insects with transparent wing covers are cockroaches ---- but what predator eats entire cockroaches leaving behind only legs antennae and wing covers?".
Hell fire for you but awesome learning experience for James
Thank you for that labelling on the junction box (and cable?), if others would spend 20 seconds to get out a Sharpie then so much Miss Marple unravelling and deducing cold be reduced to a quick confirmatory test (of course we can't blindly trust such labels when found!)
Eh, a year from now someone will cut into the circuit and make the labelling worthless anyway.
I mean, it's still worth the effort as part of doing the job right, but you know it's not going to last.
@@Azlehria I know.. yet still some slightly wrong/outdated note can still be more helpful than none.. For instance I have a circuit labeled "Garage" yet no garage. Still it was not hard to guess that this is still powering the flood lights (though at 32A it could be football stadium flood lights!)
Here in the US, it’s against code to bury ANY junction box in a wall, floor or ceiling. This is why.
Didn't fully catch what is going on with the Wago XL box, you have 2 radials coming off I assume the main ring. I didn't think we were allowed to do two radials from one point?
I usually tape a container to the wall below the work spot with masking tape when drilling. It collects everything and nothing gets past the tape.
Your the first person who does that that I heard off I do that myself.
Or tape an envelope to the wall collects everything and then just throw the envelope away full of dust. 👍
If it's only a shallow hole, a folded post it note works quite well
No one ever does that. Deluded
A nice tricky job sorted 👍👍
Lets see you chase out a stone wall in 27 seconds 😂 Bane of my life
This looks to have become a massive job. Good effort here
In regards to payment though, did you have a pre-agreed cost with the client, and asked permission to do further works?
Or do you carry out the job and give them a cost on completion ?
Cheers!
WOW! None of that equipment would pass in the US. No matter how neatly it was installed. All junction boxes must be securely mounted, and cables stapled with UL approved cable staples within 6" of a box and every 6ft (unless they are fished through existing walls)All boxes must be accessible without removing any building surfaces, unless it is a clearly removable panel. All wires ruining through holes less than 3" from a stud surfaces, or through notches must be protected by metal "nail plates."
Would you not use the dual boxes with the single and double together. There great look far neater as well and less filling
Wow, that wiring mess is shocking, jb next to hot pipes oops. That house was close to need a complete rewire.
I'm wondering what you charged for all that - especially making good the previous bodger's work!
I find it absurd that you spend all day working in your socks? What damage could shoes/boots possibly cause compared to removing carpet and floor boards?
would not let them on any of my job sites down to health and safety at work
@@kevinraines4318 clearly you know nothing on domestic when people live there a £700 carpet being ruined isn't a bill you would want and it's all light and fiddly work not like a proper site with other tradespeople working alongside.
@@chrisg449 and when the lad you employ gets a nail in his foot and it goes wrong and he ends up lossing his foot will cost you more in court fines for breaking heath and safety laws then a £700 carpet
@@kevinraines4318 not gonna debate it as i do domestic and if a customer asks you to take off your boots/shoes you do
@@chrisg449 its ok if it just you but has soon has you employ some one it all come down to you to make sure they are safe in the work place end off
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I see you like to use the wago boxes. Do you rate them and why use them rather than the correct amp.junction boxes etc? Love your videos. Good to see someone just get on with a job and not recommend a total rewire.
Wago connectors are considered to be 'maintenance free' as the terminals are a spring loaded constant tension type compared to screw clamp terminals that have a tendency to loosen over time requiring periodic maintenance to re-tighten. The Wago boxes themselves are specifically designed to house the Wago connectors. It's more expense up front but should perform better in the long-run.
Chris James should be wearing pink socks 🧦 lol 😂 😂 😂 😂
Hi does anyone know of a sparky looking for a labourer near Newark or north Grantham, currently putting myself through a night course in lvl2 electrical installations and have worked on site for a year as a flat roofers labourer before now being on an estates maintenance team. (boring AF)
Many thanks
17:40 - those 2 socks do not, by any conventional definition, qualify as a pair.
Lived in house re wires,,nightmares,suppose somebody has to do them!
It’s good you filled the holes. Had a plumber come out to fix a leak from the toilet overflow, so clean water. He smashed tiles but didn’t bother fixing it or even patching it up. I could’ve done a far better job.
Was he there to fix the leak of clear up after? If it's been leaking the chances are it's been too wet to fill. Plumbers aren't necesarily tilers
What a fecking nightmare! Do you get toners like the ones you get for network cables for mains cabling so that you can use the sniffer probe to find random cables, that would save a load of time.
You can use the same one
Did Steve Wonder fit the skirtings in that bedroom?
Open carpet gripper rods and socks - Never a good combo :-)
How much is VAT ? We have GST goods and Service Tax here in New Zealand, basically the same sort of thing. Here it is 15% and if you are the end seller so to speak, you can apply for it to be returned in your annual tax return. But not the customer unless they are a business.
Just asking - if you’d drilled through the wall towards bathroom at an angle below first socket (just above skirting), wouldn’t you be in the same floor run void? This would have saved you going in the bathroom at all.
No was over a meter to the right
Good video, but it’s really stressing me out that you are working in just your socks.. 🤦♂️ Where’s your safety boots!! 😂
This video makes me feel sick domestic work is horrendous hope you had a good price in for that job I reali couldn’t have been bothered even taking that job on
My feelings too, people don't seem to understand this issue and don't like it if you charge them for moving their furniture. Even when I've made it clear at the quote stage they still "forget" to move stuff in time....
Nice one Chris 👍
Do all British houses have hollow wood floors with tons of cable in?! At least that seems all I get to see in the various UK Electrician channels I'm following. That's completely unknown here on the mainland, at least in houses post war.
18th regs suggest metal caping over wires, although you can get away with plastic (or nothing) with an RCD,.
What a headache. Great job
What’s general consensus on writing on cables to label. Doesn’t seem to happen very often. Is it time thing, or is there argument the ink will damage the sheathing?
Personally I label them for my own sanity..
You can absolutely label them, but after 10 or so years the tape will fall off unless you get the good stuff. I always label my work, but I do fiber optics - better to take 45 seconds to slap a label on vs 20+ minutes to trace and reterminate.
@@thelight3112 I work in audio industry and we label everything (at both ends) from smallest IEC lead, all the way up to 125A and everything in between.
If there’s a problem you want to be able to fix it in seconds (1000’s of people watching/waiting) and you don’t want to be wondering which cable it is.
did you not ask therm to remove the bed at least if i was my house i would cleared the room
Love this guy he’s such a pro
Hi. I am an electrical engineer and I did a lot of electrical work like this since 11 years ago.....last 5 years in UK only. I have a question only....who is so stupid to cut the electrical cables in the back of the sockets an 5-max 8 cmonly as we find daily in UK electrical instalattions?! Did anybody think about the future test/maintenance/changes who occur on that socket?! If the electrician cut the cable from beginning to 5-8 cm only.....when you want to change the socket or future actions on that socket you will have no cable/wire left for fitting new/different kind of socket/switch.
3 cables in an MCB isn’t necessarily suspicious; spur at the CU is permitted subject to same rules as any other spur on a ring final. But in that house everything is suspicious 🤣
Was that 25mm or 35mm boxes ?
Hiya just thinking shouldn't you pull floors so you can see that you are clear of joists 🥴
Great video. I'm wondering. I'm 36, about to start my L2 in September in college. Would you say a quick course is good or crap instead of 3/4 years in college. I want to be a domestic electrician.
The longer the better
And out on the tools is the best way to learn
I’ve never actually used a scutch chisel, are they much better than a normal SDS chisel ?
also, the heavy guage box lids are good for putting over cables that are notched into joists if you ever need to do it
Hi Chris i use a multi tool to cut the wall as far in as I can then chase it. It makes it neater. Why don't you use one ?
Didn't he use one in this video for cutting out a floorboard? I do the same, saves those raggy edges that you get with the drill
@@havoctrousers indeed brother 👍
Sorry Chris, only half agree with your comments at 19:38, you can suss that out after a 3 week course, obvs its nothing to do with the course, agree you do need something up there... I've come across this type of thing loads and have fixed just like you are, I'm pretty sure some of the mess I've seen was done by college trained sparkys who wanted to get in and out and make some £££s, its all about being conscientious. I reckon I have learned more from watching good sparks on CZcams than I would on a 4 year apprenticeship, I've met some lads from both full college courses and the 3 week courses who I would never let near a screwdriver, its the same in any job, keep up the good work, watching your channel should be part of the college curriculum, I recently met a lad at the end of his 2nd year of college, light was not working, took him 5 minutes to change the bulb and then told me he didn't know what to do after that, his mentor arrived, fixed the fault and did nothing to explain or train the lad on what had been done, felt sorry for the kid.
I’d have said to the customer full rewire. But there may be reason why the customer won’t go for a rewire. Maybe don’t want to re-decorate and the fuss of it.
that's a lot off work involves. I
i like James socks 😁
Love the socks
Is there never any waterproofing in english bathrooms?
Chris and James its not very heath and safety working just in socks , beater to keep your shoes on and put a over cover so you not walking in dirt from out side then if you do stand on something that is sharp then it want hurt
I hate joint boxes under the floors!
Must be so frustrating fault finding that when really you just want the client to move out for a week along with all his belongings and just rip it out and start again
Try this in the states we can't bury j boxes in floors or walls like you can they always have to be accessible
@@wizard3z868 Same in pretty much rest of the world, at least in most developed countries..
@@jenstornqvist4567 so the uk is like mexico have to do things a little shoty because they can lol
@@wizard3z868 junction boxes in the UK are required to be accessible, unless "maintenance free" ones are used (and often they are hidden away when they are supposed to be accessible)
Try using the miniature cable tongue, think another company make it for the socket drops
Could just use the one he has only need a short end
Ive just started using a multi tool to chase walls , it's changed my life ,
Totally agree I'm surprised in 2021 people still destroying walls like this guy 🤣🤣
Dicked
At least learn to spell your insults before calling random people on the internet , you fanny.
Morning I'll grant...
Good I'll argue!!!
There is NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD MORNING!!!
There really should be a Law against Mornings starting before 1:00 PM ...
A nice simple job can be royally shafted by multiple junction boxes to arse around with.