Why The Largest Submarine In The World Wasn’t Big Enough
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2023
- Typhoon-class submarines were the biggest submarines to ever patrol the oceans. But they were not this big by choice. The Soviets had no option but to make these monstrous subs just so that they could compete with their rival, the United States ... but the reason, is #NotWhatYouThink #NWYT #longs
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So ... is *your* submarine big enough?
yes
yes
nein meine ist zu klein
Oh boy don't get me started on *my* submarine
yes
I always love the Soviet approach of solving problems with a design by just making it bigger.
So luxurious that they have a swimming pool* with broken and missing tiles!
Oh, and a sauna with mildew!
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*Swimming pool about the size of three standard American bathtubs.
@@MonkeyJedi99 actually, i think it was not sauna, it was wet russian banya. And it was rather cold tub, not pool, to use after banya.
@@sergeykuchkov2887 I am relying only on the English translations of the documentaries I've seen about the sub(s?).
Also, I am not fully versed in Russian/Soviet culture, and only a little bit conversant with Finnish culture, thanks to the paternal side of my family.
The typhoon wasn't much bigger than the Ohio class. It was 5 meters longer and 10 meters wider but both carried the same number, 20, of SLBM(Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles). It was bigger due to the double pressure hull design that allowed it to go twice as deep as an Ohio class, at least on paper.
What is it that you love, the fact that both the Soviets and the Americans has the same way of solving problems?
my submarine is very small. It can only bring 5 people to the bottom of the ocean using Logitech controller
You should check the titanic wreck with that thing
Them: you killed the- you: NU UH
Cool! Your company is GateOcean, right?
Can it bring them back?
That's not a submarine; it's a submersible.
It’s insane that the operating life of the submarine is only as long as the life of the first munitions load
I imagine if you fire all 20 missiles the port you'd return to wouldn't be there anymore
It's not insane and it's not true.
@@skunkjobbThey're talking about the operating life of a submarine SHOULD a nuclear war occur
@@vistakay They could have operated the sub itself longer, but there wasn't any point wasting money on it, since post-Soviet Russia had lost the ability to manufacture new missiles for it by the time the first set installed reached the end of their shelf life (mainly because of the solid fuel starting to go bad).
To be fair, if you're launching 20 nuclear missiles its unlikely you'll need to reload again.
I didnt knew a typhon was still in active service until the begin of this year, wow
well, not anymore.
@@cookiqman Not any more but still "until the beginning of this year"
@@andreybushev3020nerd
"in service" was a very loosely used term for this boat for about the last 10 years.
With no missiles to fire I assume it was just officially on a list of active service ships but not doing much. At least it'd give crew working experience in taking care of a sub.
At least one _Typhoon_ should become a museum.
I think, though I'm not sure, that you can see at least some of the interior of this gigantic machine either in or near Murmansk. I want to say I've seen people tour once recently, but I can't remember for sure.
It's just sad to see an engineering miracle such as this go. This, the TU-95, and the Ekranoplan were wonderful things to look at
Russia loved big.. world's biggest nuke, world's biggest sub, world's biggest helicopter, world's biggest hovercraft, world's biggest rocket (the N4 was larger than the Saturn V but was never successfully launched), basically they could never keep up with the west in achievements so they went all out on building prestige vehicles so they could say "Look what we built!" to their citizens.
Tu-95 is still there...
After WW3, only thing left in the world will be cochroaches, Tu-95s and B-52s.
Looks like a movie prop with how big they are. Still can't believe they are actually real. Sad to see em go.
Agreed. I'd sell my soul to be able to visit and explore one of these for myself
As an American, I'm almost _obligated_ to sneer at some Soviet designs, but as an engineering fanboy, I too am sad to see some of these phenomenal machines go by the wayside. The crazy war machines perhaps just a bit less so, mostly due to the potential for mutual annihilation that they represented, but vehicles like the Kharkovchanka were always absolutely fascinating to me.
Sure, the Soviets had a history of half-assing some of their designs (funding being the primary problem, especially after their war with Afghanistan), but like the aforementioned Kharkovchanka, there were some legitimate miracles of engineering too that definitely deserve the respect of nut-and-bolt enthusiasts everywhere.
The submarine videos are always the best! Sad that they only come up so rarely
So to speak!
We "SEA" what u did there 😂😂😂😂
Very interesting machines
Looking for some more sub-par responses.😁
Thats why i sub on every channel posting content like that!
this has consistently been one of the best military informational channels since covid. every video is a treat to watch
Glad to hear it!
There is always something vague about Submarines that intrigues me, something eerily unsettling. Thats why I love submarines.
Agree. All I wanted for my 7th birthday was to have a birthday party on a submarine. I'm still waiting..
Is it... the nuclear weapons?
Can we take a minute to appreciate the amount of research it took to make this video! so much engaging military history!
the russian sailor giving water for his pet turtle was the best part of this video. 🐢
As an American I'm quite sad he didn't measure the sub in terms of football field
In Spain it’s also the standard unit of measurement. In our case the soccer field.
А у вас талоны на гугл закончились или в школе геометрию не учили?
The I-400-class submarine I-401. The Sentoku type (潜特型, Special type submarine) (I-400-class) displaced 5,223 tons surfaced and measured 400 ft 3 in (122.00 m) overall. They had a figure-eight hull shape for additional strength to handle the on-deck hangar for housing the three Seiran aircraft.
Biggest submarine of pre-nuclear era. Was designed to bomb a Panama channel from Atlantic side!
Imagine if us didnt detonated that and make them cruise missile sub at the start of cold wahr
Tatainium too.
When Russia scrapped its first titanium sub, the price of titanium on the world market not only plummeted, it made this amazing metal more easily availble.... and thus, titanium bicycles.
I've a friend who perfected welding titanium. He now has a business dedicated to doing just that... all because of Russian subs.
In this vid, I was most impressed by... a smoking lounge...
Now you can say thanks to the newly proclaimed warlords who separated the country of people therefore made the people to donate for your wellbeing, poor representative of Western civilization.
Gulag labour... glad Your happy and prefer cheap titanium but I personally prefer human happiness but that's just me. 😐
@@kentonbenoit9629 another witness how lesser than 1.5. Per cent of population cam revolutionise the life of 100.
Genius
@@kentonbenoit9629 yes, now go drive your self combusting tesla while scrolling reddit on your iphone 12 both of which have batteries made from cobalt mined by child slaves in kongo.
Great video! I appreciate your keeping it clean. It's something I can watch with the family listening.
Dmitry Donskoy was the first Russian Duke (of Moscow) to win a battle against Mongols in 1380. It weakened the Golden Horde enough for the Grand Duchy of Moscow to become an independent state and unite Russia by 1480.
The first win was in 1378. In 1380, this huge defeat actually strengthened Golden Horde, because very dangerous rival of true Khan of Golden Horde was removed from the scene, and it took only 2 years for Tokhtamysh to consolidate the power and, in partucular, to completely burn Moscow.
*Moscovy, not Russian, don't Generalize. Moreover, only southern, central, Kievan Rus' were affected, but the nothern russia was free until moscow conqured it in 16th century.
@@ElonMuskTheOne You don't know what you are talking about. First of all Dmitry Donkoy was indeed Russian Grand Duke of Vladimir and in theory (very much in theory though) he had a claim to all of Medieval Russia (not to confuse with modern Russia) especially since head of all Russian Orthodox church from Lvov to Novgorod was permanent resident of Moscow by this point. Something like situation in 13th century France and counts of Ile De France. Now he really had power mostly in North Eastern Russia which was not "Muscovy". "Muscovy" in turn was rather short lived Western term for Russia (already modern version of it instead of Medieval) and for a state, not a region. And then at last Moscow consolidated its rule over Novgorod, Pskov and northern Russia by the end of 15th century.
@@alexeyserov5709 before accusing others, please learn history on your own first. Novgorod, which was a separate state, was not taken over until 1570. And please don't call massacre "consolidation."
Hope to see the day when that country has no more nukes and no more subs...rabbi bear needs to be put to sleep for good of the whole world.
"The safety of the personnel was a top priority" is not something I thought I'd ever hear about Soviet tech 😅 Soviet subs are so much cooler looking than US ones, even if the tech was always a bit behind.
They are evil but not stupid. Submarine personnel is very expensive in terms of training and gaining experience so can't be as carelessly expended as regular soldiers
@@DajesOfficialt's not like I care about you, but I need my man torres back on harbor."
Because it isn't true. Two of the five deadliest submarine disasters are Russian with 119 souls at #1. Newly elected Putin refused help and his pride cost all the submerged their lives. The safety and welfare of Russian soldiers was and is the lowest priority.
@@DajesOfficial They are neither evil nor stupid. If we want to watch at hard data, there's one country that takes the first place in sheer evilness today and it's not them. Not even close.
@@olisk-jy9rz yeah sure not even close
20 missiles each capable of carrying at least 10 nuclear warheads that could independently target different cities in USA and Europe.
its insane that in 2023 there are people living in this planet according to movies, games and in general the 50+ years old cold war propaganda from the us. the bad russians that want to conquer america. its like they prefer to ignore history and facts and stay in the movie scenarios.
Thank you for listing the music you used in the description! Hugely appreciated 😁
I once read a good fiction about a rich guy who purchased a retired Typhoon and refit it to be a deep sea science vessel. Out with all the missile tubes and in with a helicopter and mini sub. Just as the book was getting a bit dull, having talked a lot about the refit, the zombie apocalypse happened.
Source?
But the missile tubes are not sealed. Sea water gets in there to equalize the pressure. Helicopter will have hard time in there.
Reading comprehension isn't your forte is it.
On a sub would be a good place to spend the apocalypse.
World War Z?
They should put at least one of the remaining Typhoon class submarines in a museum.
yeah ,,to show the soviets capability during the COLD WAR with the United states
SSBNs are just beyond terrifying, what amazing weapons. The Typhoon class is fantastic.
A giant tube under the sea with the power to say, “fuck you and the continent you rode in on.”
Love your videos man. Great content.
Glad to hear!
For a certain generation, the Typhoon class will always be synonymous with the Red October.
Engage the silent drive!
I've been obsessed with Submarines this week and your videos are awesome!
Russia (as well as the former USSR) routinely dump nuclear reactors (many still fully fueled) in shallow water in a designated area off of the Kola peninsula. The two most spectacular ones are the original reactor from the K-19, the other was when they used high explosives to cut the entire reactor compartment out of one of their ice breakers, although in that case it appears that the reactor wasn't the issue, it's was some form of lack of training of the crew that lead to the compartment being so irradiated that they couldn't decontaminate it. So they dropped it out of the bottom of the ship and built a new one for it.
nice content man! keep the good work up
Someone needs to buy that beast and add it to the US museum fleet. Be a shame if such an awesome piece of history was lost.
I was thinking the same. Should be a museum ship.
As a citizen of the Russian Federation, this is one of the saddest and most truthful comments I have ever seen here.
When I was on a business trip in St. Petersburg, during a tour of Krondshtat, the guide showed us empty gun rooms, where massive coastal guns once stood. And he gently hinted to us where they had gone... Maybe we are too stupid, or too poor, but when you see the same thing everywhere - that people are looting their past, it is very sad.
@@POJOK_B_IIuPOJOK I have been fascinated by the Typhoon ever since I read about it in "Teknikens Värld" (World of technology) as a boy some time back in the 80s. I thought about driving to the Great Belt when Dmitrij Donskoy passed there a couple of years ago but I didn't do it so I never got the chance to see a Typhoon. Maybe if it's preserved as a museum and Russia starts behaving as a good neighbor, I could go and see it sometime in the future.
I'm amazed this was engineered and built decades back 😊
@@POJOK_B_IIuPOJOKTruly sad to hear. I hope that whatever the future brings for Russia, a fight against corruption and a push for preserving the nation’s history should be among them.
Russia should totally turn the last Akula class into a museum.
Amazing engineering.
You do amazing work. Please keep it up.
Bro "not what you think" 3:32 💀
Wanted to see the biggest Submarine. Stayed and watched the whole video because it was VERY good. Thank you for sharing.
It’s amazing how accurate the mock up sub was in “Hunt For Red October”!
I burst out laughing when they called it a "Floating Hilton" while showing those guys all cramped up in a shoebox-sized lounge area
I saw these submarines. Best regards from Severodvinsk, where they were built :)
Yes, I'm russian.
3:26 man of culture even underwater 😏
What?
Very professional. Very informative.
Anyone know what the little bags were on the jump suits at the start of the video?
That was an interesting segment. I’ve watched other channels focus on this class of submarine, but this episode introduced a bunch of information that was new to me. Well done, as always.
The US didn't operate a SINGLE P-8 Poseidon when the Typhoon was developed.
Correct. We clarified that in an earlier comment. It was meant to say the P-8s are currently in use, not back then.
@@NotWhatYouThink would have been better to just talk about the P-3 Orion in the video. avoid any confusion.
I love the P-8 though. Just wasn't the right aircraft for this topic.
I've been obsessed with Submarines this week and your videos are awesome!. So ... is your submarine big enough?.
Interesting video, I never thought I'd be able to see video of Soviet submarine missile launches.
Would love to see one of these technological wonders in a museum
reminds me of hunt for red october. that was a typhoon, wasn't it?
Thanks for metric overlay. ❤
Russians building big things is a bit of a theme. It reminds me of a (very) old Sony commercial, where their new Video 8 system (I told you it was old) is presented to the UN General Assembly as the new world standard, because it's much smaller. The Russians protest: "Nyet! Russian video big!" and they have this truly enormous VCR with them. But they entire assembly gets up and applauds Sony's new system, while the Russians walk off, cursing.
That sub is more of a hotel than a deadly submarine
The soviets cared about crew morale and living. Plus it's not WW2 anymore, the only thing it'll be doing is surveillance and land attacks.
Thanks for doing this video. My father was Commander of TK-17 for quite a while. The space in between the hulls were part of the ballast system, which meant the missile space was wet. This was good if there was ever a situation where the missiles caught fire. The bright side of the decommissioning is that one of the Akulas will most likely become a museum ship!
I spent a good portion of my formative years watching these subs and other SSBNs go in and out of Polyarny. My mother and I were allowed on board TK-17 while she was in port a few times, these boats are very well equipped. It's funny you mention Kursk, I was 14 when that happened and my father was partaking in that exercise in the Barents. I don't talk to him much anymore, but he never spoke of the incident.
I don't miss Murmansk though, fuck that place.
I love your submarine videos brother! Well i love all of your videos of the submarine ones just stick out for some reason is what i meant to say
I hope at least one of the submarines will be a museum
4 out of 5 that escaped died of hypothermia. So what happened to the sole survivor? It has always been said that the whole crew of the Kursk died. He could have explained what happened.
The Red Oktober itself, so comfy
where can i get footages like this for my videos?????????? answer pls..
The bigger the submarine, the more spare logitech controllers we can fit in
😂
Big submarines could carry a lot of long range missiles, but they were too expensive to maintain and easily detectable.
Size is not the issue.
Referring to 7:16 - 8:25
Did you watch the video or just randomly commented anything to gain likes?
You clearly didnt watch the video
@@duquepp2078Nah he fs just watched 4 seconds and typed some information he read on Wikipedia
You didn't watch the video, and your comment is not true.
The submarine videos are better then the casual videos!
I would love to go exploring in this thing.
Aww, that’s sad, the Typhoon/Akula is such an iconic design! Would have been nice to keep it in service along with the Iowa Class battleships.
Love your channel for a long time. Always happy when you drop a new one. So professionally mastered and I love your humor. It matches mine perfectly. Thanks for all your work. Just found out you live in Canada. I live just a couple hours south of BC but I lived in Southbank BC for a couple years with my grandma so my grandpa could go dredge for gold in AK. No power. No running water. Outhouse we had to tunnel to every winter because snow was even with the peak of the house. Best time of my life. If you didn’t catch it, kill it, trap it, or grow it, you weren’t eating.
Thanks very much. We are based out of Ontario and PEI.
BC is beautiful, I have travelled a few times, but not to such remote areas!
What are you guys constantly compensating for? Like the Moscva , looks scary but really just a large target
good video
That is so cool, what I wouldn't do to be able to tour one of those subs, hell even just them amenities sections, a sub with a pool and sauna and all that? That is just too cool. It sounds like something I would want to put in my own subs. Wish some billionaire oligarch would buy one of these and turn it into a luxury submarine that would be cool.
Isn't k329 Belgorod is the biggest currently operated? Like 11 meter longer if I'm not wrong
An underwater, even under-ice cosmodrome with 20 launch pads. The Soviet Union did not deny itself anything. These are great times for explorers.
I don't understand how the missile tubes are connected to the two main pressure hulls. Are they inside the pressure hulls or between them? If so, are they subjected to external water pressure?
Do Russians have museum ships? They need to preserve at least one Typhoon submarine for that.
We don't have much of a sea to put them, that's the first.
And secondly we hate old things. Old buildings, old towns, old everything-we hatethem.
We don't need any history beyond the one written in school books.
At least so it seems when you live here.
all of them are ^^
@@SroedingerCat Watched or read something on the softening viewpoint of Stalin as the brutal dictator that he was. Could this moving the date russian history starts as you say be the key?
@@SroedingerCat You hate "old things" because they remind you of a time Russia wasn't a shithole , but then Gorbachov happened =)
@@KekusMagnusliberti 'nc fridom.
I've always had the thought to turn at least one of those Typhoon Class subs into a night club. Swords into pruning shears.
Typhoon an engineering marvel.
However, the most epic and deadly is the Seawolf.
how do you find this information?
The name of the Akula class is pronounced a-KU-la, not A-ku-la. In Russian it's spelled акула. And Belgorod is pronounced Bel-go-rod, not bel-Go-rod.
maybe russians should learn the American alphabet communist!
And Russian Йй is JJ not Yet, we aren't romance.
I know it's kind of laughable how big this monster was and that it was built that way specifically due to ballistic missile oversize issues, but still... I can't help but be impressed by this stupidly huge submarine
These things were NOISY. Ultimately the goal of an SSBN is to leave port and disappear for months. Remain completely undetected. Invisible. Impossible to find and destroy, assuring that mutually assured destruction as part of a second strike will always happen. But they were so huge and so noisy they could be tracked far easier than a smaller SSBN.
I love how you got Soviet footage featuring a guy hanging dong in a sauna lmao
Why u didnt mention the magnetohydrodynamic propulsion system?
It was some sort of caterpillar drive which made the submarine super silent.
I once saw a documentary about how the americans where able to capture one of those subs. I think that documentary was called "Hunt for Red October" or so.
😜🤪😜
They are, "going to need a bigger boat."
Iconic Submarine :D
I LOVE submarines
Interesting! The Typhoon's are certainly impressive in the size. Its a shame they seem to have only been actively deployed in/under the Artic, as that would seem to make it much harder for the US Navy Poseidon's to get a good handle on them regardless of their apparently louder acoustic signature, (under the ice or not) especially as these aircraft have only been on active duty since around April 2019 and perhaps only until recently been attached to the 6th Fleet, which operates out of the Mediterranean Sea. Most of all though, all but one of the Typhoon class were scrapped well before 2019. Has there been good, honest information presented in this YT doc'?
P-3 Orion does the same thing, albeit a little lower tech, since 1962. So... same role, different aircraft. Doesn't matter much.
You a communist!?! 😠
What's long and hard and full of seamen?
Um........an aircraft carrier ?
it's all fun until the sub is sinking
the way that guy steps up that closing door at 3.12 this guy is mentaly so connected to this submarine hahah
4:07 so, 5 sailors managed to get to the surface from the kursk? 🤔
No that was from the other incident he mentioned on the Komsomolets
no, kursk crew didnt manage to get to the pods because the area they were in got destroyed during a torpedo detonation. Komsomolets managed to evacuate 5 in one of the pods but water got in when they opened it on the surface.
7:12 double checked Wikipedia. The Typhoon submarines started in 1976. The P-8 Poseidon was started in 2009.
You probably meant the P-3 Orion.
Yeah the footage seemed new.
just to clarify, the time continuum was thrown a bit out of whack, as we removed some sentences from when we talk about tracking submarines. That section of the video was explaining how submarines are tracked "currently". We did make the mistake of saying "operated" instead of "operates", which added to the confusion. Hope this clears the confusion! Thanks for pointing this out!
40 sailors go down, 20 couples come up!
My friend i I have One question in spanish to see and correct?
Si USA tiene un telescopio en el espacio llamado James webb para ver las galaxias entonces con este telescope usted puedes ver este submarino por su tamaño tan grande ?.
Akula is pronounced "A-koo-la" with an accent on the middle syllable...
sucks that they didnt build a museum for it to preserve history, that wouldve been awesome
The use of the "not what you think" logo has never been this good before. 😂😂🤣
not only the largest and deadliest submarine ever but also the most beautiful one
I love the soviet engineering, crazy moonshot ideas
IT IS AVERAGE SIZE CYLINDER!
stop complaining
It still can be useful, modernized it could carry 400 Zircon missiles, basically it could sail up to the US and salvo launch them
0:09 Ah yes the fabled "Water carrier!" LMAO. My friend its exactly what I think. But I do enjoy the effort and detail in your videos.
Lol, they had all the space they needed and still made the missiles bigger than the Dam sub. The Soviets have it good enough down pat because that's all their stuff turns out to be good enough lol.
6:30 - That's no joke. I did service at sea from 1992-1996. We had maps showing the location of every Russian, Chinese, and other foreign navy's ships and submarines updated every day. During transit to Australia, they posted them to show the Belleau Wood's location every day and it included a lot of other named ships and submarines.
You never knew the location of British subs, our pump jets made them next to silent, so much so that the USN licensed the tech to install on their own subs.
@@krashd Actually, we did. We also had contact reports for the Los Angeles class. I think much of the data came from underwater listening devices and geosynchronous satellites, because we certainly didn't have that capability as a stand-alone on the two ships that I served aboard.
So does the Russians. You are not the only major powers in this world.
@@X-jn87ybt That's entirely possible.
That pool looks inviting 😳
1:27 You may think you're cool but you'll never be as cool as a Russian soldier holding an assault rifle on the deck of a Typhoon class submarine.
That's pretty freaking cool.
He’s technically a sailor, not a soldier
@@2005batmanmorâk. He's morâk. Staršij or jíst ordinary matros
Russia just has this urge to make giant things