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I'm a full blooded Navajo deathling here! Indigenous pride here!🙂
cladspoon me Too! Yay!!
Yo sick! Chiricahua Apache here. How’s it going?
NEAT! make videos about it, ill wach!
cladspoon 6 Nations here :)
I’m Tohono O’odham (Papago)
I am Lakota. The reason we prefer certain names, at least the reason WE prefer Lakota over Sioux, is that Lakota is OUR name, Sioux is the name the whites gave us when the federal government started logging all
the different tribes. The government just decided to rename the tribes for some reason. Hence the reason Lakota prefer Lakota and not the name the US government gave us: Sioux.
amy pease from what I understand (at least in some places in Canada) the tribes were given names according to what others (often traditional enemies) called them, rather than the names they themselves used.
KM E true. Some of the names were even just because the government liked the sound of them better, and some were just a description of the area they lived. Can you imagine the government renaming you against your will "dumb ass" if that was what am enemy called you or "icy and cold" cuz you lived somewhere cold!
Wow, thank you for sharing that. I didn't know that! =c(
Agreed. I am Sac and Fox (Oklahoma) but our true name is Sauk.
I learned from the CZcams channel singelesktube that the name Sioux comes from the French. When the French asked their Algonquin guides what the Lakota people were called they were given an Algonquin name meaning “people across the snake-like river”. The French had difficulty pronouncing that name, so they shortened it to Sī (the last syllable of the aforementioned Algonquin word). Later they pluralized the word into Sioux. So while it was very rude of United States government to just stick with this very poor French interpretation, they didn’t just pluck it from thin air. I’ll link you the video if I can find it. It’s a lecture by a very kind, quiet Lakota elder. Not Sandra Black Bear or her brother, but some other teacher at the Rosebud university
Navajo is a title the Spaniards bestowed upon the Diné. It has a murky etymology but it is generally accepted to mean cultivated fields. The term first appeared in 1603 as los Apaches de Navajo. Diné means man but has the accepted meaning of The People.
I find it so interesting that our names for us was always some variation of "people" . It was the setters that gave us "names" for ourselves. But to us... We're people. (I'm keetoowah- Oklahoma band) every time I watch my favorite genre of movie (horror) I think... Watch it be us... Watch it be us.... Yup it's us. We're burried there so it's haunted. 😒 Lol
@Steve Silvas that is navaja, not the same.
Ok, just a thought here but I have always been taught that the "Navajo" and the "Apache" were two different groups and that it was the "Apache" who referred to themselves as the "Diné"...anyone care to shed some light?
Ellen Rice so the languages are both in the same “group” of languages (Athabaskan) in addition to being geographically close. Words and sounds are similar in certain cases. But both refer to themselves as Dinee/Dene/Diné. I did a bit of research when I found out about my mother’s bio dad growing up on a reservation. He was Apache.
@@FraxinusDipetala thank you...I was aware of the language group but not the vocabulary specific to each language.
Coming from a Diné woman, you said Diné really good!
Also, thank you for mentioning that not all Diné people like to be called Navajo.
Loved the shade you giving with the cherokee thing. LOL
"Barbecued horse wall" has been added to my growing list of "things I heard on Caitlin's channel and will never, EVER hear again".
treetoppy I'm singing "barbecued horse wall" to the tune of "Bentham's head".
EverEmily good im not the only one
Caitlin's so funny! Haha i love her!
treetoppy best comment ever lol
treetoppy that’s a long list
"BBQ'd Horse Wall", yet another death metal band name.
Sounds more like a deathcore band name. Maybe even a grindcore band name.
Yessss! I was shocked she had only found 2 named "Coffin Birth"
Officer Greg? that you?
How about a death metal country band? Even if you play it backwards, you ain't getting that horse back.
I appreciate your “I am 1/19th Cherokee and my spirit animal is a unicorn.” I am full Navajo and fellow deathling, I enjoy your videos so much!
Selling bones as souvenirs.
I almost flipped my table.
Moment of silence for the BBQ’d horse wall 😭
Tori Green my thoughts exactly
Tori Green , I love horses. I hated this story!
probably not the first time a wall of dead horses was set on fire :( life is crazy
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Tori Green o
im full Navajo and a deathling! Navajo Death Culture is completely shut out of our communities on the rez. (yee-yah!) So I go out of my way to learn more (read, ask) even though my family is extremely against it. (I was told id be disowned if I became a mortician. My family is very very traditional on one side and Christian on the other. I grew up traditionally but im more open minded.) As far as i know theres 1 Navajo mortician and hes in Shiprock, NM. I may be wrong but thats what I know! The fear was that what I may do (touching the dead, looking at them, etc) would effect my family in negative ways such as sickness or death for the people I love the most or myself. I find it all to be fascinating and although im pursuing other things I still openly try to discuss death topics w/ my family even tho they dont want to hear it. Im genuinely curious. It made me happy to see a video done by you, about our neighbors and fellow Athabascans, the Apache Nation. Awesome! Nizhoni! Also ive read both of your books! It was insightful and hard to put down, well written and a breeze to read!
Hyraeth Lansing You look white.
Do the People still enact the Blessing Way?
Nah i'm a paramedic in Arizona and my former EMT partner who is full navajo recently became a mortician. Idk if she was traditional or not but shes great :)
I lived in AZ a couple of years and was the only white person my Navajo coworker would talk too. (I am from the east coast so therefore not a dick to Indians.) I wish society were more like the Navajo except for that death hangup. :) Though to say Navajo society is complicated is an understatement. This friend became a chemist because she realized that no one in her community was a chemist and they needed one. If only everyone worked this way in society.If I wasn't disabled, I would run for office to get Native Americans more protection and rights. I think each tribe should have a representative in Congress.
@@Nylon_riot Out of genuine curiosity, how does being disabled stop you?
Thank you for pointing out the absurdity of "Indian burial ground" myths. At work several years ago, a housekeeper blamed a few curious incidents on the building being haunted in part by an Indian burial ground beneath it. I nearly strained my eyes from rolling them so hard.
This Miller dude sounds like an old timey Joe exotic
Yes! I was thinking this too!!
Native American's treat the dead with honor and respect. If you dishonour the dead, then they will dishonour you. This is why a lot of tribes offer prayers and songs to help the dead cross over for the safety of all. Btw WMAT member here.
Sweet, I’m Chiricahua.
San Carlos Apache here 👌🏻
Uriah Kessay
My 97 year old grandmother passed on Mother's Day. The next day as the sun rose, I prayed and cut my waist length natural Spral curly hair to right under my chin. I feel good and worthy of life now. I'm ok, I was ok when I heard she passed and I'm ok now. Cause I know she's with our elders that have passed before. No tears cause I will see her again.
Idk about that, tons of tribes would desecrate the remains of their enemies, and cannibalism (the non-consensual kind, not the honor-thy-ancestors kind) was common throughout the plains. I'm sure they had some respect for the dead, but probably not more than any other culture.
White mountain apache here as well 👋
I must say I discovers your channel recently. I am addicted and absolutely love your content.
Same!
Ikrrrr
Me too found it a week ago and I e watched most of the videos
@@christinatyree2280 QUE SAME
Damn, I said the exact same thing.
Okay... I fell down an "Ask a Mortician" hole for the last week... I. Can't. Stop. I ain't mad about it though. :P Great stuff!
Mhya Does A Thing! me rn
What town?
same! Caitlyn has very quickly became one of my favourite youtubers! or, i guess, deathtuber ahaha
It's been a few months for me. You made this comment a year ago. Have you found your way out yet? Where does the hole end? Am I getting close to the mantle?
@@insolubletoaster8133 I think that after a month of falling at presumably terminal velocity, we can guess metaphorically, if not literally, where the fall ends. Enjoy the plummet in the meantime; it's all you've verifiably got! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
LMAO!!! You gotta sell a poster of that Caitlincorn. I'll totally buy one!
Thanks for this video! Another sensitive subject but could you do a video on the mass burial grounds of slaves in Maryland and Virginia?
R Oki I love in Maryland and had no idea about this. This is horrible but I want to know about it and not be ignorant about it.
I live here in Maryland and I first read about it in an article in the Frederick post. (Most smaller news papers carry the best stories!) I became interested since I know that Maryland was know for the tobacco plantations. Maryland was a tricky state since it was known as the Free State but there was slavery here just on a restricted basis. Virginia and Maryland had 100+ plantations (Many of them now owned by the National Park Service so I know there has to be some rich history with it as well as some burial grounds and rituals that may be interesting!
R Oki good idea!!
I’m in Frederick, myself! Yes, our town and state has a dense history dating before the revolutionary war. Maryland also is home to one of the few green burial sites in the US. It is permissible to bury your dead in Frederick City. The permit is $30.
CAITLIN PLEASE DO THIS
The kids at my daycare got me sick as hell but if I'm gonna be sick, a pint of ice cream and new ask a mortician is probably the best way it could have gone
Fell better soon!
Take care of yourself and enjoy that ice cream!!!!
Thanks! Rsv is one of hazards of the job working with kids, I'm actually pretty surprised I didn't catch it sooner. Large sums of ice cream definitely help tho lol
Take care and enjoy the ice cream.
Has there ever been a dead person that actually broke you? I understand its your job and youre immune to it. But has there been that one that grabbed your heart and it bothered you? What was it? How do you handle it?
I worked in a hospital on the cancer wing for 13 years. The family is what got me! Seeing, hearing almost feeling the heaviness of their grief! It would overwhelm me sometimes and I was just the secretary. I would go into my office and cry. Especially when kids lost their Moms/ Dads.
Now maybe I was drawn to the living because I believe in heaven and these cancer patients suffered so much pain that I believe they were going to a better place and they were ok to go! But their families were stuck here with nothing but grief, so the living were the ones who broke my heart ❤️!
I also lived it. I fought cancer myself and won! Thank you Jesus! But I lost my beautiful mother in law to cancer too! To me it’s the living left behind. 💔
I don’t think Caitlyn is immune to suffering dead, she just confronts it in an upfront way despite how hard it can be. In her book “Smoke gets in your eyes” she mentions the corpses and situations that break her heart and how she also needed a break from dead. There’s also a TedTalk in which she mentions the corpses that changed her life.
Hi Caitlin, I love your work! I recently moved into a home near a cemetery, and a topic I would love to see you explore is the "longevity" of the business of cemeteries. What happens when they reach capacity or go out of business, who is responsible for the cemetery's upkeep and care in perpetuity? There was a NY Times article recently that explored all the creative ways that cemeteries in the NYC area are fitting more remains into finite space, but it didn't go into what ultimately happens when a cemetery has reached capacity. Do the owners just pack up and leave? Must they set aside funds for the continued care of the grounds, maybe like how insurance companies must keep enough money on the books to ensure they can pay out claims? Given the insane property values in our area and elsewhere, is it difficult to "start" new cemeteries? How does a business go about securing land to operate a cemetery?
Always found it really upsetting how "Graveyards and cemeteries" always get seen as sacred, understurbable places, whereas "burial grounds" seemed to end up being a couple archeologists frantically trying to save things as the bulldozer goes through developing, if there are any archeologists at all, you know? Like here in New York, a resort/casino was built called the Del Lago... With an island of undeveloped land in the parking lot holding a very old cemetery. But I've never heard even that about native resting places
Actually, a cool video would be the subject of death and land development
Hey! So I'm in the archaeological field and I just wanna say that many construction jobs have an archaeologist monitoring the site while they dig around. In certain places they also need to consult the local native community before starting projects. If they get the okay to build, and bones or any other types of remains/artifacts are found in construction sites, correspeonding experts such as the police and a coroner are called in to determine if it is a recent grave or if it is an old burial.
If the remains are recent they compare them with missing persons records and try to find out who it was. If it is older, they contact the local native community and hand over the remains to be properly buried.
Most archaeologists I know bring sage and other things they deem necessary to be respectful/nonprofane while working with indigenous burial sites. Like it was said above, it's not a perfect system, but it's starting to help prevent further destruction of indigenous graves.
And act called NAGPRA (native american graves protection and repatriation act) was passed in the 1990s that requires archaeologists that find any old remains determined to be native american to consult with local tribes. The tribe the bones belong to desides what is done. If they say the archaeologists have to pack up and put the remains back to not disturb the dead, then that's what the archaeologists have to do.
"Burial Grounds" to me, seems a much less respected name than "cemetery" at least as far as most white people seem to think?
It's sort of telling that people tend to tack "Indian" or "Slave" in front of the word graveyard for places where POC are buried, but we can generally call the European descent's places of burial "graveyard" without needing any qualifying descriptor. Or the description is Protestant, or Green Meadows, something nice sounding or more specific than an entire race or category of people.
old video but it is inevitable to not build upon top of former graveyards and cemeteries. People will continue to live and reproduce, thus adding more and more dead people. We just can't simply bury all the dead until there is no space on Earth.
Hi, I’m a new subscriber. I’d just like to say thanks for explaining things about death so clearly and with a sense of humour. Your videos are really helping me deal with my fear of death and what happens when you die. My Dad’s death ten years ago, really messed me up, and somehow your videos are helping me finally deal with it. Thank you ❤️
Amina Jane Ishaq welcome to the community. :D💚
Foot Lettuce thank you 😊
I'm so glad you're learning to cope. My condolences, and welcome to one of the best communities on CZcams! Much love, a fellow deathling ❤
ScarletNovember thank you for the lovely welcome fellow deathling 😁
I have to say, I can somewhat relate to you. I grew up living with my grandmother and grandfather. When I was 11 years old, my grandfather was shot dead. Bullet entered from the front of his face, and exited behind his head, nearly blowing away his whole skull at the back. I always wondered how they managed to make him so pretty when I saw his corpse. He was so peaceful looking. Literally quite beautiful. I also always wondered what happened to him after death, and what it was like dying. I just love how Cailtin describes death. If I would ever get the opportunity, I would love to be able to be a mortician.
As someone who has lived in Flagstaff for almost ten years now, I always thought two guns was just a road whenever I would pass by on the way to Winslow. I never thought twice about it. I had no idea that there was such a dark and interesting history behind it. In other news, I'm new to this channel and have been binge watching all of her videos for the last 3 days and I cant stop, pls send help.
Hi Caitlin. I just want to tell you that I am NOT a deathling. I happened to come across one of your vids in a "rabbit hole" and while the actual subject matter is not something I would have sought out, I have to say, i keep watching because I think you, Caitlin, are a wonderful speaker, presenter, and person. You are funny, kind, passionate,, and just really professional. Great job!
WHOA THIS IS MEGA COOL. *Is Chiricahua Apache*
Edit: I feel like I must disclose that it’s cool that the two things I’m most proud of(being both Indigenous and death positive) are coming together under one video by a person I like.
Conquistadorable Yes! Same!
I'm so glad! Discussing indigenous issues can veer into the tone deaf and offensive, so we really tried do our research and not wade in unless there was something to say.
Ask A Mortician I’d say good job.
Saaaame! 1/4 apache over here 👋
Conquistadorable love your name
Here is part of a speech given by Chief Seattle that may have caused *some* of the superstition surrounding Native American burial grounds.
"At night, when the streets of your cities and villages shall be silent and you think them deserted, they will throng with the returning hosts that once filled and still love this beautiful land. The white man will never be alone. Let him be just and deal kindly with my people, for the dead are not altogether powerless."
I should add that there has been some dispute about the authenticity of this speech. Some say the multiple translations and white people omitting and adding things over the years butchered the original words.
Parker Kenney there was a Chief Seattle? I wonder what the word means?
Charlotte Rhubottom from what I have read his name was Si'ahl and Seattle is the Anglicization of that name. I believe Si'ahl is a Luhshootsheed word but I don't know the translation.
Parker Kenney thank you! Another interesting thing for me to google and read up on.
What's this about white people in this context? It wasn't whitey who killed the apache in those caves.
Hate that kind of shit. Is it because that one guy sold bones as souvenirs? Well that's shitty but the actual death and decay was done by Indians.
I've just realized that I haven't actually 'liked' all the videos of yours I've watched (which is all of them, several times), even though I legitimately Like them so much I love them! So I'm now going an Ask A Mortician binge and liking all the videos I didn't think to before. You deserve both the extra thumbs up AND the extra views, Caitlin!
Diné and Oglala 💓 loved this video and the respect you have for it
Speaking of tourist traps surrounding "Indian Ruins", never spend money going to the Manitou, Colorado, "Manitou Cliff Dwellings." Fakety fakes faked for the tourists. Plenty of cool stuff to do in this part of the country without paying for fakes. Just a random tip from a local.
I mean they used to be a settlement before a person disassembled the structures and moved them and made it an attraction. I grew up around it and it's fascinating but not something I'd support financially now! Mesa Verde is well worth the drive. (Just my opinion as an archaeologist who works with indigenous people in the region.)
there is a dwelling in Mesa Verde, co that's legit.
darzey yes it's a national park actually, many sites from many fascinating time periods
Samar Nadra The archaeological sites in Arizona are from a different group but there are some wonderful sites to visit. Casa Grande ruin is particularly famous and worth visiting. Also if you can get to mid-NM, the Acoma have an amazing tour of their traditional village at the top of a mesa and their museum, which the community itself runs.
So it's as realistic as Casa Bonita?
“i feel like i can say this, I’m 1/16 Cherokee” *Knowing smile.*
Daniel Appleton my point being is that a lot of people claim Cherokee lineage when they’re not at all. The point was to bond over the ire of hearing this too many times, not to discount or invalidate mixed Native people.
Same here haha
Unless you have a B.I.D. then most likely not Native Im just sayin.
I am full blooded Din`e the " white Colonizers" made this law not us. So its an lil insult to hear how some claim they have "indigenous blood". Navajo have our tradition with death as taboo so this story was very interesting.
Rachel m I don’t think anyone means any disrespect when they say that, I know I don’t and I have been told by my grandparents,and great-grandparents that I was part Cherokee and curiously had some Choctaw blood. Whether it’s true or not I will never know but I have been told that and I’m sure the people that claim it have been told it as the truth.
Oh god 😂 yep literally everyone claims that
You’re brave. Stopped there on a road trip with Dad. It is a very dangerous place. Aside from the climb down into the canyon, imagined a rattler could dispatch either of us and we could become new editions to said cave. Waked back to car and drove to Meteor Crater. These ‘ruins’ are the epitome of American roadside tourist trap kitsch. Sketchy commune living at the abandoned gas station too. Love your Channel. Thanks.
"Barbecued horse wall" I feel bad I laughed lol
I love how amusing your videos are while being so educational! I've learned so much binging all your videos. It's definitely opened my eyes to a lot of things.
I'm half Salinian (from Salinas, CA). We have amazing caves and stone carvings that are still well protected to this day. I'd love to see you do more about the American Indian death heritage. 💚
I lived Prunedale for a couple of years when I was a kid. We'd drive by some of the cave sites but I never got to really see them, but I'm happy that there's effort to preserve Salinas valley artifacts.
I'm a proud full Apache deathling! I've been told that the cave is a cursed burial ground and not to go near it.
Homicidal Puppet In that case, CAITLIN’S IN DEEP DOO DOO👻⚰️💀😱!!!!!!!!
Thats so cool full Apache. Want a oen pal in Australia? Send me a pm. Thanks.
You can. Curses and the supernatural don't actually exist. It would be fine.
It depends on what YOU believe in.
If you have respect for your ancestors for example then don't go.
More out of respect/history than any curse.
I'm taking a folklife class with a focus on ghost stories. This video kinda resonates with the things we talk about. We discuss the reason why certain folklore stories are emphasized in certain places, including in order to capitalize on cultural stereotypes like this one. Yeah, most folklore in America stems from racism.
Hello Caitlyn. I happened upon an old mental hospital cemetery in Sparks, NV. It has a 9ft tall stone obelisk accounting for about a quarter of the former patients accounted for, the rest have been lost to time. A few of the original hospital buildings are still standing and a couple are still in use. What makes the hospital cemetery such a morbid but interesting find, at one point it was a park where families used to picnic and bring their kids to play. It wasn't until a few bodies were dug up during the construction of 22nd street that the grounds were cleaned up and the Obelisk was put in along with the unearthed corpses rebuiried around it in 2002.
in Hollywood forever visiting my grandparents watching this with them now.
Death Cave sounds like an excellent metlic rock band name 🎸😂
Katrina Umana see also: Barbecued Horse Wall
I find the relationship between the indigenous Americans and the whites compared to the comparable situation here in Australia fascinating. This video has definitely caused me to rethink my interpretation of some of the mythology in Americana, but also to rethink my understanding of the situation at home. A fascinating, thought-provoking video. Thank you
I think it's a Christian cultural thing where non-Christian people's places of death and burial becomes the imaginary home of wandering spirits and 'devils'.
You frequently see the same thing occur in Europe when dealing with pagan sites. It was pretty common during the Christianization of various regions during the medieval period for old religious sites and sometimes even settlements to be either abandoned or require a "cleansing" that necessitated building a chapel or church.
From the comments here from Natives, it appears that, although beliefs are varied, there is a reverence of the dead among them, and due respect is required lest bad things happen.
It's be pretty cool to see a video on the 'lost' Roanoke Colony :)
“Careful bangs. Careful bangs!” Hilariously cute! ❤️♥️❤️♥️❤️♥️❤️♥️❤️♥️Am I right?!
Ridogg81 they weren't friends. Many native American tribes fought wars and even committed small tribal genocides. Not to be mistaken as native were just savages bla bla, but it's just a constant in any largely tribal land expance. The south American natives also had wars genocides and even canabalism. Early European tribes, African tribes and even early asian tribes did the same. War, genocide, murder, rape and "where you from" based racism have been rampent throughout history. Sucks but makes a very interesting research topic.
Cedar Queen I think you replied to the wrong comment!
psychotophatcat no they editted it and completely changed it
psychotophatcat you can see it was editted.. the original said. The native Americans killed each other too, I must have failed history!
There are shitty people regardless of race, religion, gender, nationality and time period. And people of all these same groups who have to deal with their shit.
Also editing comments after someone has responded to say something completely different tends to put one in the former group instead of the latter.
Id love if you'd go to the city of Pompeii! Always wanted to go myself,I'm fascinated by it.
You never cease to amazing me with how well you articulate your points and tell stories. You are so able to handle really tricky and sensitive subjects really gracefully and still manage to inform so well. Kudos to another amazing video, you rock!
Are you ever going to make a video on the stories of the infamous Irish immigrant gravediggers Burke and Hare? There was a film made abt them with simon pegg, it was a cameo heavy comedy but was still pretty good and historically accurate in tge right places. Greetings from Scotland (Dundee)
Peter Cushing's Excrement Nightmare I’m dying 😵 to know the story behind your screen name!
Charlotte Rhubottom it was Christopher Lee pee dream but I changed it for April fools 2 years ago and it stuck.
Weren't Burke and Hare grave robbers, aka resurrectionists, rather than grave diggers?
Sounds fun!!! I would have liked to see more of your trip and more onsite footage. Thank you
Good one! Here's a possible topic for Caitlin: The "sinking" cemeteries of the Louisiana coast. A number of cemeteries, including several associated with Native American communities, are being lost/have been lost in south Louisiana due to coastal erosion. A handful of people have tried a variety of methods to somehow rescue or recognize these vanishing, yet memorable locations. I'd think Caitlin could do that topic the justice it deserves. BTW-my 4-greats grandfather was a "Red Stick" Creek Indian who fought against Andrew Jackson in the Creek War of 1813. Jackson learned to respect the ferocity and bravery of the Red Sticks, and later asked them to fight for the Americans (which they did) at the Battle of New Orleans against the British in 1815.
Happy to start catching you again.. I came across someone who was being given a lot of grief about her upcoming death and funeral choices. I told her to check your videos out. I hope she finds you really helpful..
Cauvel’s in Titusville, PA has a bleeding witches grave. The tombstone perpetually bleeds from the skull on it.
How does it do that?
@@cedartheyeah.justyeah.3967 minerals supposedly. but the engraving on the grave isn’t actually a skull. it’s just two crossed roses that have eroded over the century
@@vandilore Hmmmmm
I know Virginia is pretty far, but downtown we have The Old City Cemetery. It is the oldest Cemetery in Virginia and is full of rich history. It is also a Museum and crematory. They do Docent tours and have pretty cool landmarks and old buildings like a pest house and many more places. You should try to visit!!
It truly is! You will enjoy it there! I actually used to volunteer as a gardener and weeded the medicinal garden they have there! You will be coming at the right time as the trees will be blooming. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do!
Love how you give the history of the “spooky” death places then also some moral history too! So interesting and shows it’s more than a “tourist destination”
I grew up in Flagstaff and have driven past Two Guns dozens of times but I just thought that it was one of the many abandoned places surrounding Flag. Thanks for enlightening me, I will think about this video every time I drive past!
Another great video from our death mother!
Gila monster is pronounced like hela monster
Spanish words - G has an H sound.
"heela" not "hella"
Just happened to stumble across your channel and am glad I did. I find your videos informing and love your ability to mix in a decent sense of humor.
We recently met a lady mortician, around 40 years old. When I showed your video to my wife I asked who it reminded her of and we both thought of Sarah immediately. The sense of humor and ability to talk lightly about something most would prefer to ignore is great. Thank you.
Hi Caitlin! I’ve been a subscriber and super fan (your videos helped be get through the California State Bar, actually) and I am halfway done with “Smoke Gets your eyes“ and have “From Here To Eternity “ waiting for me on my shelf. I am so happy to have found you and that I get to learn so much from you!
Sorry I didn’t finish my sentence! I’ve been a subscriber and super fan since July… Then read the rest lol
I always get so excited when I get a notification for your videos! Your humor is so well timed and just the right amount of cheesy. :)
For the most part, Navajo and Apache come from the same language group (Athabasken). We both call ourselves "The People." Different spellings and pronunciations though! 😊 also depending on which Apache band it is Too!
Starr Salcido My Grandmother was Iroquois. Which called themselves The People. Aren't all Indigenous groups considered The People? It is the reason the Founders (what did they found? Nothing was lost!) used "We, The People" in the Preamble of the Constitution.
tribal groups referring to themselves as "the people" is pretty common throughout the americas. i'm from an isolate linguistic group (northern pomo -- pomoan language family), and pomo also basically means "people"
@@tawnya0627 omg your lack of American History is showing, they founded the country [not in a literal sense, not that I should have to clarify that] and created a government here. They didn't "found" [as you literally said] it physically although the Spanish and Portuguese did discover it for the European countries as they would have no knowledge of something they've never seen.
@@flext-rex8284 Catch up, Kraken. Clearly you have no sense of humor. I can't say I'm shocked. You missed all of the humor of my statement. The person with whom I was communicating did not. An ounce of pretention is worth a pound of manure! You must have a wonderful garden! Lol
@@tawnya0627 that wasn't a joke, you just sounded stupid and idiotic and HIGHLY uneducated. Don't make excuses for your lack of knowledge in the subject by playing it off as a joke and "hUmoUr" when that's obviously not what your first comment was about at all. Maybe you should go back to 9th grade American History class, English/Comm arts class and while you're at it, you might want to through in a comedy class because right now anybody with half a brain would fail you; i.e you're not funny. Nice excuse though but try again.
I appreciate that the adds on all the videos are only in the beginning and end of the videos, that way I can get uninterrupted watch time. Thank you Caitlin
❤ You have such fun and informative content! I'm obsessed!
Thank you for the history lesson on that location. I've driven by there many times, and have been curious about it as I passed by.
They say the west was built on legends.
The thing about legends, is sometimes, theyre true.
Is that a line from a movie?
Ghost Rider
Bahahaha a Ghostrider quote 😂
Thank you I enjoyed this story I am Navajo full blooded this story was very interesting and Ive heard of the town Two Guns, but never visited even when I lived in Arizona.
I've been to Two Guns several times (my grandparents lived in Winslow, AZ). Thanks for sharing details about the area i never knew before!
As a Native (Maliseet 1st nation) I really like the fact that you made this video! You really put down this stereo typical/racist myth about natives. Thank you!!
you are a canadian?
Received your book for valentines day and I finished reading it yesterday! It was amazing and I've been recommending it and your channel to everyone! #deathpositivity
Mountain Meadow Massacre in Utah. This place is gorgeous, but the history behind it is horrible. It's a really interesting story.
Sjondel same with the Sand Creek massacre here in Colorado... An appalling tragedy.
My family, who are devout Mormons on both sides, has told me about the massacre many times. Anytime we would go to Veyo, Utah, we would drive past the road that would lead to the location of the massacre. I haven't been to the actual memorial, but the valley is very beautiful; you wouldn't have think that an unspeakable act of cruelty would happen there.
absolutely love this video. I have been following for awhile and have appreciated your stance on many hot topics. This is by far the best deconstruction I have seen around these legends. The "grandmother was a Cherokee princess" riff was hilarious - so sad this is an actual thing! Thank you and keep up this good work!
Love this! I’ve been there many times and took many photos, but never went into the caves. Awesome retelling of the story!
The Dickson Mounds. I read about them in a book I read in my undergrad called 'Grave Matters'. Fascinating, and infuriating. Love to hear your take on it.
TheGingerblueberry dickson mounds is kinda cool its a lot better now that they have recovered the mounds. My mom is still scarred from seeing a womans skeleton holding a baby when she was young.
I was also going to suggest Dickson mounds, I live near it. They've since closed the burial area many many years ago (thankfully. People were being stupid and digging the bones up) but I love going there 💖
TheGingerblueberry I have visited Serpent Mound in Ohio years ago. Really interesting.
Daniel Appleton my visit was over 40 yrs ago, mid 1970’s. There were picnic areas there back then but how terrible they built a golf course through it! That’s progress for you. 😏
Daniel Appleton I didn’t know or maybe can’t remember about the meteor in the head. That’s so interesting. I’m going to google it refresh my memory. Should be interesting reading.
Would love for you too go to the Winchester house and do the small tour.
i grew up going to the winchester house regularly as a kid and honestly there's not a lot of death-related content there.
extinct inks Dang it lol 😔
More people have died at Disneyland, and frankly, if anyone is ticked they were killed by a gun, these days they would definitely be haunting the NRA.
Talamasca007 that is true
@@Talamasca007 the NRA doesn't make guns, it also advocates responsible gun ownership and training. I honestly don't believe that most of the people that HATE the NRA, don't know why the hate the NRA, they just were told to, so they do. Now that's the way to be prove you aren't a sheep. Just hate who your told to and swallow the lies your fed.
Sahweet! It’s a rainy Saturday and Colin’s book was available to download from my local library. I know what I’m doing today. Love your videos. So entertaining yet education. 👍🏼
Just wanted to say how much I love your outlook and take on these subjects. The content is very interesting and your bits of humor are great!
Next do one on our obsession with haunted cemataries. Why do people these days tend to fear cemataries instead of having picnics in them like back in the olden days?
Most folks avoid cemeteries for the same reason they avoid every other aspect of death. It's part of our mortality-phobic culture.
Where we live a lot of the cemeteries, especially older ones are actually off limits to the public. Sadly you would get chased off by the police and maybe ticketed for trespassing if you tried. But I wish it was more welcoming to the families of the deceased and those who are there respectfully
It would be nice for you to do a video on talking to kids about death.
Raven Poe I’m thinking of more for adults to learn how to talk to kids about death. I try to answer my three year olds questions as honestly as I can but it would be nice to see her side of ways I could talk to my kids better.
She has made that video.
Courtof2 czcams.com/video/0gUOP9IvZew/video.html
Last time I had to explain death to a child, I pulled out this gem:
"Sometimes doggies go to sleep and don't wake up anymore."
"But where is he?"
"He's gone."
"But where IS he?"
"He's...gone."
"But WHERE?"
..
..
"He's not here anymore."
True story.
Yep she had!
So glad I found your channel, it’s so nice to find something educational AND awesome! ❤️❤️
Mortician: Your series is very entertaining and at the same time very informative. I hope you continue many years into the future.
Next time you are out east, I'd like to see your cover Mount Moriah Cemetery in Philly. Maybe with thoughts about the abandonment of monument.
I honestly like looking at rocks
My 12 yr old thinks your videos are informative and fun to watch. We just found you, and really enjoy your humor. Some of your content covers what he's learning in history. He wishes his teachers made learning more like this. Thank you for giving him another job interest for when he's older.
You are my favorite CZcamsr
"I can say this stuff because I'm 1/19 cherokee" lmao we hear that waaaay too often
In Santa Fake, she could channel a 5000 year old Indian Warrior, and charge stupid white people to talk to him.
My wife's funeral home picked up prisoners who had died in Louisiana's Electric Chair; they had to WAIT for the Body to COOL; as their temperature got up over 175F; they were literally Cooked alive.
That's cool
I just purchased both of your books!!! I’m so excited to start reading them❤️
Caitlin - you’re the perfect host for this channel: intelligent, sensitive, engaging and respectful. Thank you
How about a trip to Waverly Hills in Louisville Ky?
‼️🛑‼️🛑 ADVICE NEEDED PLEASE🛑‼️🛑My neighbor who I share a wall with and is my landlords daughter died last night unexpectedly. She was in her 40’s. Ambulance and fire trucks were here. They were doing CPR for about 30 minutes until they pronounced her gone. Her 11 year old daughter saw it too. I want to do something to help and be supportive but I don’t know what to do and do t want to impose. Any suggestions??? Thank you
Ridogg81 bringing dinner is a common thing here. That way they don't have to worry about it
Ridogg81 yes, bringing food, offering to help clean, etc. You know, just any of life's daily activities that people in mourning aren't able to do/shouldn't have to worry about doing. You'd be surprised at how grateful people will be for that. Those little activities are just so burdensome when you are going through a death.
Ridogg81 also letting them know that you are there for them however they may need. Whether they might need to talk one day or just have a shoulder to cry on the next.
I agree with everyone else here. You are definitely not imposing. It's always the little things that mean the most that get overlooked in this time. Cooking, cleaning, offering to help with grocery shopping.. just let them know that you are there for what they need.. try to put yourself in their shoes and think what you would need at 11 years old having witnessed that.. the deathling community will always be here to help you through this
Ridogg81 offer to housesit while they are out taking care of the business of funerals and the funeral itself. Some people read obituaries to find out when the house will be empty so they can break-in. I’ve heard of this happening so many times. It’s a real thing.
This was such an interesting video! I mean, all of your videos are, but I happen to live nearer this vid's focus than others and I guess that made me even more enthralled haha. Love subscribing to your content!!
I absolutely love your channel the sensitivity to everyone’s background. Thank you for touching subjects of the indigenous while remaining completely respectful, hoping one day an indigenous owner acquires this land and brings back its people. There is so much prayers and healing through the practices of the indigenous, this misconception of curses is what turned the view of our people into violent perceptions ❤️
"Mauled by Gila Monster" would be great on a tombstone!
I've been curious on how would a video with you and simply nailogical would be.
Man I want to see that so badly.😀
So your videos have been coming up in my suggested feed for a few days now. This morning i decided why not and watched one, now.....I....CANT......STOP! Ive been binge watching you for HOURS. Lol. Youve got a new subscriber!
Wow I really like your video's Caitlin. I have been thinking very much about my own mortality now that I am in my 50's and the things that you have to say have been eye opening and appreciated. I also saw your Ted Talk and you brought me to my knees when you mentioned your mom.... my mom passed away 21 years ago and I did something on that day that still feels my heart with joy. Once everyone left her hospital room I closed the door and laid in bed with her I rested my head on her chest and listened to the stillness of her heart.... looking back I am so happy that I did that. I learned that death wasn't a 'scary' thing but it was natural. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.
... they tried to put out a fire with their horse's blood.... wtf
Shelby Tucker Crusaders would drink their horse’s blood when they ran out of water
NeonViking thanks for being part of my fun fact Friday lol
I had that same reaction lol
Shelby Tucker teal evolved people huh? 😏
Charlotte Rhubottom
Use what you got. That sounds like hope injecting itself into a desperate situation. It can keep your mind off of the inevitable end and possibly hold the terror at bay long enough for you to die.
Caitlyn! I just heard you on the Savage Lovecast, and it made my day!! My two favorite Internet personalities (if I may call that) from two vastly different communities/topics, getting together! It was such a great (even if a little too short) participation, I hope you get to participate again! I just had to laugh to myself when Dan said to you that he wants the full packed when his time comes, including being embalmed, lol.
AWESOME vid! You tell these things so amazing. I’m binge watching you today! 😆 I want to get one of your books. I’ll have to look for a link. And the horse wall....I totally laughed out loud and woke up my little dog, lol.
I think it would be fascinating if you visited Shiloh, especially the Bloody Pond. The whole death-and-dying thing with the Civil War is very interesting, and I wonder if legends about hauntings at the battlefields and hospitals of the period were ways for people to deal with the incredible loss of life.
How many death caves they got over there? And those sunnies are effing adorable and so are you! And Your bangs be like: pop pop boing!
I live in Flagstaff! If you ever want a tour of all of our “haunted” places and dark history let me know!
I swear I could listen to you talk all day....your voice is so nice
Soo interesting , like all of your vids. Thank you so much for keeping your content informative as well as interesting!