March 1998. Cockpit footage from flight CU424, Havana to Denmark. Many thanks to the friendly Cuban crew! Digitally restored in 2008, Hi8mm video tape.
I'm the granddaughter of the Captain Moises. He was a real good man!!! I and my family are very thankful for this video. Specially for me was a joy to see my grandpa as he was, but specially being appreciated for his work. Thank you very much! 🌻
Wow, that is amazing, I remember seeing this video many years ago and went looking for it a while back.I really took an instant liking to the captain, very nice to the cockpit visitor in the good old days when we were allowed to say hello . I often wonder if he is still alive.
@@Dawgator I don't have the exact date or even year. I was still a child when my grandpa retired, but it must have been between 2002 and 2006. He died in 2009
Damn, this captain seems so relaxed and professional at the same time. Mark how he communicates with ATC, just casually saying some word sets with a bit of giggling. He's making the communication look easy and has everything under control.
The captain talking all the flight, kkkk. This aircraft has a big cockpit. Absolutlly without LCD, tablet or iPhone aparent . Totally analogic main panel. Amazing!
This long range airplane il62M with proper mentenance and good service becomes a very safe machine, the only weak point is big consumption. my father flew this type for 23 years. Tarom- Romanian Airlines. thx
Creo también volé con éste Capitán del IL 62 M ,muchos viajes por varios países, conocí muchos Capitánes de Cubana de Aviación, Silvio Sosa ,Pedro del Risco,Ovidio,El Panameño, Alexis,mi respeto para todos ellos, les habla un Piloto también pero del Motocross profesional
Missing one guy there. The Thelegraphist.. it was renoved when the GPS was installed and the comunications become easier.. but originaly it was five crew on the cokpit
Anyone who claims this plane is unsafe needs to do a serious course in statistics or learn to do basic maths. It's hull loss rate is half that of the B 707 (and almost half that of the DC8). It is the same rate as the VC-10 but has been in operation for 43 years compared to just 16 years for the VC-10. A major ICAO study listed the IL-62 overall as safer than the 707 and similar to the DC8, but the IL-62M version was twice as safe again. That is why it is still in operation today.
wow! That control yoke is huge. This is not a complaint. Just an observation. Thanks for the video. I hope to visit my relatives in Cuba of the Carbonell family some day.
This airplane has mechanical connection with metal wires between the yoke and the control surface. For such a big airplane, you need a big yoke to be able to move it easily, without using a lot of force.
@xxman7 This plane is very safe. It was operated by 30 countries and had no fatalities between 1989-2009. You can easily check stats on ASN and ICAO and Wikipedia refs which shows it to be by far the safest plane of its class/era. The Polish govt just this year released confidential archives that show it told LOT to ignore overhaul intervals during the Solidarity era to cut costs during the labour unrest. LOT was unable to service or test engines of this size until 1987.
@xxman7 Over 30 airlines operated IL-62s and they all had good safety records except with LOT. There were reasons for this, primarily because LOT didn't get equipment for checking turbines until 1987, but they also cut back on what little maintenance they did during the 1980s. It was important to check turbines especially on rear-engined planes because of the close proximity of the engines to each other (as with the VC-10). The IL-62 accident rate is very low compared to other planes.
Cubana had IL-62 with uncontrolled engine explosion too. Luckily the plane made a safe emergency landing. The HUGE problem with IL-62 was the crappy engines even by the standard of the day. If the plane had western engines it would be safe to fly.
el navegante creo que es nety vivia en regla lo conoci personalmente esos eran los tiempos en que cubana era una gran aerolinea y los pilotos eran muy famosos porque tenian muchos conocimientos
@superfestiva One of the fastest. The Tu-154M tri-jet seems to be the fastest commercial airliner now in service (since the Concorde was retired). It has the same powerplants as the IL-62M but possibly a somewhat better power to weight ratio. It is unable to land in western Europe due to recent noise restrictions and is probably too expensive to hush kit. Nonetheless there are still 200 or so in service (out of 1015 originally built)
thanx so much for posting this video. i would love to go to cuba. but the money involved in going would be too much. i do have one question though? what is the song playing in it?
@xxman7 This plane had a very good safety record in 30 countries. It can't have a good safety record and be unsafe at the same time. By their own admission LOT did no checking of DK-30 engines before 1987 (IL-62 or Tu-154) so I'm not sure exactly what point you are trying to make. The IL-62 hull loss rate is only about 1/2 that of similar planes (B-707, VC-10, DC-8). Also the 2008 Cubans incident was a routine landing following 1 engine failiure (and it was later flown back to Cuba)
I heard that ever since Comet disasters more than 50 years ago they make windows and doors rounded on planes. How come in a cockpit they are still more or less square?
@av21031 That's interesting. Solidarity was formed in August 1980, that is more than 5 months after SP-LAA crashed and in 1985 Polish government made a decision that LOT would expand its fleet- they ordered brand new Tu-154M's in Soviet Union and deliveries started in 1986. Those planes were equipped with almost exactly the same engine as Il-62M and entire order was much more expensive than cost of overhauls. If they had been forced to cut costs they wouldn't have bought Tu-154's.
@rrynek Yes but the SPLA turbine was already damaged before it was fitted so that is not really relevant. The cost claim comes from Polish govt archival documents so I assume they are correct. Operating a 62 is more technically demanding than a 154 (it requires developed airport facilities as opposed to the 154 - or VC-10 for that matter - and having paired engines required more thorough turbine checks than the 154).
this is a superb restored 8mm! you must have begun with a good film initially. Mine done in Turkey 1958 were really poor. Any suggestions? thanx for this great vid. I'd like to visit Habana some day :)
@av21031 Nope! Turbine was not damaged, the shaft just wasn't made properly. The documents refer to investigation carried out by Polish secret police SB after first crash in 1980 and SB wanted to find out whether government was anyhow responsible for that accident but government itself didn't leave any relevant documents.
@av21031 SB documents refer to period before first crash i.e. 1976-1980 and there was no information about second one because the case was closed 7 years before SP-LBG crashed. Poland had a different government in 1987 and this particular government made a decision to expand LOT's fleet so any claims about cost cutting are just ridiculous because new planes were much more expensive than engine maintenance for small number of Il-62's
SELCAL, selective calling system. Each aircraft has a 4-letter code assigned. It alerts the crew that a ground station is trying to reach them via High Frequency or Very High Frequency, so the crew can call in. In this case, New York Oceanic Radio was sending them a SELCAL test.
@xxman7 Design error? Russian planes are often more safe than european/american counterparts. Don't blame Ilyushin or Tupolev. Blame the underpaid maintenance crew. There is NOTHING wrong with the 62 or the 154.
@superfestiva I guess it was ground speed and they had very strong tailwind. It's not unusual for planes flying from America to Europe. Tu-154 is a faster plane
+carleton morris is a radio beacon that the plane receive in is fly.....so that mean that in ground control are following the travel of the plane....every several miles all planes travel thru several beacons or radars ....for example if u travel in a plane from england to russia...entering france u have a beacon warning u that u are no along,
Se supone que son pilotos cubanos fieles a la revolución.pero el lenguaje de la aviación civil es el ingles y les guste o no tienen que hablarlo aunque con ese marcado acento de la isla caribeña gobernada por el comunismo
I'm the granddaughter of the Captain Moises. He was a real good man!!! I and my family are very thankful for this video. Specially for me was a joy to see my grandpa as he was, but specially being appreciated for his work. Thank you very much! 🌻
Did you ever get to fly with him?
Wow, that is amazing, I remember seeing this video many years ago and went looking for it a while back.I really took an instant liking to the captain, very nice to the cockpit visitor in the good old days when we were allowed to say hello . I often wonder if he is still alive.
Onore!
Oh wow, what a treat! I instantly liked him when I saw this video years ago. When did he retire from flying?
¡Viva Cuba!
@@Dawgator I don't have the exact date or even year. I was still a child when my grandpa retired, but it must have been between 2002 and 2006. He died in 2009
Damn, this captain seems so relaxed and professional at the same time. Mark how he communicates with ATC, just casually saying some word sets with a bit of giggling. He's making the communication look easy and has everything under control.
The captain talking all the flight, kkkk. This aircraft has a big cockpit. Absolutlly without LCD, tablet or iPhone aparent . Totally analogic main panel. Amazing!
This long range airplane il62M with proper mentenance and good service becomes a very safe machine, the only weak point is big consumption. my father flew this type for 23 years. Tarom- Romanian Airlines. thx
The captain looks a real character.
Non-corporatized might be a good term. Haha!
Bet that flight crew would find a modern airliner boring to fly.
Elias Moisés, fue amigo fiel y tremenda persona !!!
Love this. The crew seems so chill yet professional. Love it.
Very welcoming crew they where
One of my all time favorite videos! Thanks for preserving this piece of history, Simon!
Thanks Mackz1337, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
TRULY - I still watch it from time to time! Thanks for leaving it up! 💪
Creo también volé con éste Capitán del IL 62 M ,muchos viajes por varios países, conocí muchos Capitánes de Cubana de Aviación, Silvio Sosa ,Pedro del Risco,Ovidio,El Panameño, Alexis,mi respeto para todos ellos, les habla un Piloto también pero del Motocross profesional
The Cubans are a great people!!
4 crew. Navigator, Engineer and 2 pilots. Thanks for watching!
Missing one guy there. The Thelegraphist.. it was renoved when the GPS was installed and the comunications become easier.. but originaly it was five crew on the cokpit
very cool and friendly captain
What wouldn't I give to get on a flight from Havana to Copenhagen on IL-62M! Those were the real planes!
El mejor y más lindo video que ví en youtube
Anyone who claims this plane is unsafe needs to do a serious course in statistics or learn to do basic maths. It's hull loss rate is half that of the B 707 (and almost half that of the DC8). It is the same rate as the VC-10 but has been in operation for 43 years compared to just 16 years for the VC-10. A major ICAO study listed the IL-62 overall as safer than the 707 and similar to the DC8, but the IL-62M version was twice as safe again. That is why it is still in operation today.
Great Video Simon! I flight with him in `89 to Havanna from Berlin
"Dale al americano!" Good old captain couldn't tell his guest in the cockpit was British.
Us cubans refer anyone from a different country other than cuba as gringos or americanos if your white and speak english as your primary language.
Haha, I really enjoyed that thank you Simon!. The Captain was quite eccentric. :)
that captain is so funny HAHAHAHAAH
Thanks x-man. The pictures on the DR1 forum look scary, reminds me of the Sioux City DC-10 incident.
Soy chile tuve la suerte de viajar en este avion y tb estar en la cabina .. todos muy amables ..
Brilliant footage
Thank you!
wow! That control yoke is huge. This is not a complaint. Just an observation. Thanks for the video. I hope to visit my relatives in Cuba of the Carbonell family some day.
This airplane has mechanical connection with metal wires between the yoke and the control surface. For such a big airplane, you need a big yoke to be able to move it easily, without using a lot of force.
ok, mine was done in 1958 on 8mm kodak film and yours in 1998 - big difference. thanx!
Great video. Thatks for share.
@xxman7 This plane is very safe. It was operated by 30 countries and had no fatalities between 1989-2009. You can easily check stats on ASN and ICAO and Wikipedia refs which shows it to be by far the safest plane of its class/era. The Polish govt just this year released confidential archives that show it told LOT to ignore overhaul intervals during the Solidarity era to cut costs during the labour unrest. LOT was unable to service or test engines of this size until 1987.
4:19 pure professionalism
March 1998. Thanks!
@xxman7 Over 30 airlines operated IL-62s and they all had good safety records except with LOT. There were reasons for this, primarily because LOT didn't get equipment for checking turbines until 1987, but they also cut back on what little maintenance they did during the 1980s. It was important to check turbines especially on rear-engined planes because of the close proximity of the engines to each other (as with the VC-10). The IL-62 accident rate is very low compared to other planes.
Cubana had IL-62 with uncontrolled engine explosion too. Luckily the plane made a safe emergency landing. The HUGE problem with IL-62 was the crappy engines even by the standard of the day. If the plane had western engines it would be safe to fly.
Ha the control stick looks awesome!
el navegante creo que es nety vivia en regla lo conoci personalmente esos eran los tiempos en que cubana era una gran aerolinea y los pilotos eran muy famosos porque tenian muchos conocimientos
@superfestiva One of the fastest. The Tu-154M tri-jet seems to be the fastest commercial airliner now in service (since the Concorde was retired). It has the same powerplants as the IL-62M but possibly a somewhat better power to weight ratio. It is unable to land in western Europe due to recent noise restrictions and is probably too expensive to hush kit. Nonetheless there are still 200 or so in service (out of 1015 originally built)
Very Nice Video!Does anyone know why Cubana stopped flying from/to Denmark?Not profitable route?
nice vid. the captain is hilarious :D
Thanks granskare! Actually I shot it on the Hi 8mm analog tape format.
Great video Simon. How many crew members? looks like the cockpit was full?
Epic!
thanx so much for posting this video. i would love to go to cuba. but the money involved in going would be too much. i do have one question though? what is the song playing in it?
@xxman7 This plane had a very good safety record in 30 countries. It can't have a good safety record and be unsafe at the same time. By their own admission LOT did no checking of DK-30 engines before 1987 (IL-62 or Tu-154) so I'm not sure exactly what point you are trying to make. The IL-62 hull loss rate is only about 1/2 that of similar planes (B-707, VC-10, DC-8). Also the 2008 Cubans incident was a routine landing following 1 engine failiure (and it was later flown back to Cuba)
Song is by Benny More. Sorry I dont remember the title.
"Elige tù que canto yo" it was the title..You choose that I sing!!
I heard that ever since Comet disasters more than 50 years ago they make windows and doors rounded on planes. How come in a cockpit they are still more or less square?
@av21031 That's interesting. Solidarity was formed in August 1980, that is more than 5 months after SP-LAA crashed and in 1985 Polish government made a decision that LOT would expand its fleet- they ordered brand new Tu-154M's in Soviet Union and deliveries started in 1986. Those planes were equipped with almost exactly the same engine as Il-62M and entire order was much more expensive than cost of overhauls. If they had been forced to cut costs they wouldn't have bought Tu-154's.
"My mojito in the Bodeguita del Medio and my daiquiri in the Floridita"
@rrynek Yes but the SPLA turbine was already damaged before it was fitted so that is not really relevant. The cost claim comes from Polish govt archival documents so I assume they are correct. Operating a 62 is more technically demanding than a 154 (it requires developed airport facilities as opposed to the 154 - or VC-10 for that matter - and having paired engines required more thorough turbine checks than the 154).
Que pifia aquellos tiempo.
Yes hahah the cuban are good people maybe one of the best .
Does the aircraft have GPWS?
whats 'H.F.' ?
Duration of the Flight?
this is a superb restored 8mm! you must have begun with a good film initially. Mine done in Turkey 1958 were really poor. Any suggestions?
thanx for this great vid. I'd like to visit Habana some day :)
High Frequency, radio frequencies are between 3 and 30 MHz. The captain said: no HF, VHF. which meansVery High Frequency.
is crashed?
@av21031 Nope! Turbine was not damaged, the shaft just wasn't made properly. The documents refer to investigation carried out by Polish secret police SB after first crash in 1980 and SB wanted to find out whether government was anyhow responsible for that accident but government itself didn't leave any relevant documents.
Me encantan estos aviones sovieticos.
@av21031 SB documents refer to period before first crash i.e. 1976-1980 and there was no information about second one because the case was closed 7 years before SP-LBG crashed. Poland had a different government in 1987 and this particular government made a decision to expand LOT's fleet so any claims about cost cutting are just ridiculous because new planes were much more expensive than engine maintenance for small number of Il-62's
the cockpit is beautiful..😍😍😍
1:20 navigator position, lighter and an opened h.upmann cigarettes pack.
H. Upmans are my favorite Cuban cigarettes and I smoke them whenever I'm on the Island!
didnt this flight stop in shannon??
No. This flight was Havana - Denmark - Manchester
What is this sound in the minute 4:35 ?
SELCAL, selective calling system. Each aircraft has a 4-letter code assigned. It alerts the crew that a ground station is trying to reach them via High Frequency or Very High Frequency, so the crew can call in. In this case, New York Oceanic Radio was sending them a SELCAL test.
@@tomcat561 oh thx, wow, I love the il62, and I want to be a pilot of this plane, I love it
Bermuda!
Maybe, I don't know!
no tank u...radio check..4.10
She is in mint condition!
SELCAL!
@xxman7
Design error?
Russian planes are often more safe than european/american counterparts. Don't blame Ilyushin or Tupolev. Blame the underpaid maintenance crew. There is NOTHING wrong with the 62 or the 154.
justo. Árabe buena persona y exelente captn.
@superfestiva I guess it was ground speed and they had very strong tailwind. It's not unusual for planes flying from America to Europe. Tu-154 is a faster plane
Es para q miren q los cubanos amamos a los estadounidenses
FIDEL Y RAUL NO LOS QUIEREN MUCHO.
how many Ruskies does it take to change a light bulb
so what was that whole thing about calling NY and then the captain laughs???
what the hell is "salcol"?? or sal call?????
+carleton morris is a radio beacon that the plane receive in is fly.....so that mean that in ground control are following the travel of the plane....every several miles all planes travel thru several beacons or radars ....for example if u travel in a plane from england to russia...entering france u have a beacon warning u that u are no along,
What an ancient plane even in 1998. Horrible to fly such long distance
Se supone que son pilotos cubanos fieles a la revolución.pero el lenguaje de la aviación civil es el ingles y les guste o no tienen que hablarlo aunque con ese marcado acento de la isla caribeña gobernada por el comunismo
Un inglés pesimo
Como tu educación.
PÉSIMO... COMO TU SO CA BRON.
Yeah sure, same engines as used on Il-76 AND Tu-154M. Those didn't have engine problems, so your fubar!
Scary airline, wakala!
Ok so pen de JO wakala tu y tu familia.
Nawer flight tchis plane kils more peaple in Poland 2 crash.
bad cockpit , boeing and airbus is better , the steering is like truck hahahaha
i would prefer flying this plane than a boeing or airbus, its a true classic
You know sh it about aviation.