How Techno was born: From Detroit to Berlin and back
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- As Berlin gears up for the Love Parade successor, Rave The Planet this weekend, we take a look at the beginnings of techno. Techno is the unofficial soundtrack of Berlin, intertwining with its vibrant and relentless party culture, but where did it all start? The real backstory of techno begins early 1980s in Detroit, a city struggling with industrial decline and social challenges. In this episode of Arts Unveiled, we take a look back at the birth of techno as a response to these hardships, as visionary artists like Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson fuse funk, electro, and synth-pop with futuristic visions from science fiction.
The influence of European electronic music, particularly the iconic Kraftwerk, on the Detroit pioneers, who crafted a unique sound would revolutionize the music scene. Black and queer communities played a pivotal role in the genesis of techno, with their contributions building the genre and culture as we know it.
We will take you to Berlin, where techno found its second home after the fall of the Wall in 1989 and to the electrifying atmosphere of dark basement clubs and run-down buildings where the hard and fast beats of techno first captivated audiences. From the Love Parade, a legendary music festival that took techno to the streets, drawing millions of ravers from around the world, to the legendary clubs of Berlin, such as Tresor and Berghain, where techno thrives with no curfew.
Join us as we unearth forgotten history and hear from techno legends, including interviews with DJs from Detroit and Berlin and learn how every genre of music has its roots in something different and embrace the story behind techno's rise to global dominance.
Get ready to dive into the captivating origins of techno and its incredible journey to become a socially acceptable genre, even finding its place in esteemed concert halls like the Berlin Philharmonic. Don't miss this immersive exploration of the genre that changed the world.
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00:00 Introduction
01:41 How Techno Came to Berlin
04:17 Detroit: Birthplace of Techno
08:23 From Underground to Mainstream
13:19 What Exactly is Techno?
17:06 From Clubs to Concert Halls
Techno is everything. I'm 72 and dance on it ever Saturday and Sunday from midnight till 5 in the morning, but without alcohol or any drugs, totally sober. I drink only water.
I got you. A good real techno set. You don’t need nothing. Just water. 👏🏼👏🏼
47 & the main reason I keep in shape & flexible is so I can keep dancing.
Massv respekt!
That's OK. I still love you man.
Yes. I know we came out of the water too. Good to keep it handy. @@jeonlyxoxo
This is gonna be me. Even if I'm 90, my nursing home companions are gonna hate me blasting my techno
As a Berliner, it's weird to me, that the city still continues to get praise for it's clubs and the music being played there. We are weeell past the glory days and everything has been long commercialized and washed down by way too many and too generic DJs. And the city does it's best to actually kill off the parts of the scene, that still have a DIY element to it and where people are actually about creativity and not about "I've played in *insert famous club*", by shutting down venues and criminalizing raves. I'd love to see this music grow somewhere else, where the grass is still wet.
yeah you absolutely right , but its still on a another level in comparison to other citys... where you have maybe 2 Techno Clubs. And a bad Techno Club in Berlin, is a very good Techno Club in most of the Citys in the World. There are other Party Citys, but come on Ibiza or what? :D
You have a privileged perspective! But sadly to much Yuppies in Berlin
I started going to techno parties in Berlin in early 91.
I moved to Berlin shortly afterwards.
I am now 51 and still enjoy going to clubs here.
While indeed some things were different in the 90s, the spirit is still alive in some places, and we still have a bunch of great clubs and a ton of great folks here.
And the past is the past - we can’t go back.
Compared to other cities, Berlin still has the best clubs/scene, and I am grateful for that
Yeah, the rave scene in the US died in the 90s really. The RAVE Act, of 2001 sponsored by Joe Biden of all things, was the final nail in the coffin. If some of these amazing old school DJs like Jeff Mills, etc. can make good money playing these festivals, then great for them!
Thanks for sharing your opinion! A lot has definitely changed in the last few decades.
come to the southeast UNITED STATES. its alive and well
It's a bit unfortunate that there is no mention of what happened before Detroit. In particular Kraftwerk, EBM, New Beat from Belgium, the New Wave and Italo disco scene were hugely important in shaping that Detroit techno sound. It's also safe to say that it is not just Berlin that has been important over the years. Warp records were doing techno way before Berlin, we had Djax up Beats in The Netherlands, hugely underrated is the scene from The Hague Netherlands (Bunker Records, I-F, Unit Moebius, Legowelt, etc) who have been largely responsible for the electro revival. Berlin is cool, but a wee bit hyped and way past the early days of Basic Channel and Hardwax.
Right. And let’s not forget Industrial or sometimes called Electro - Front 242, Skinny Puppy, Nitzer Ebb, Ministry
Hear hear!
@@0x0abb exactly, first techno from Germany is from the mid 80s
This has an agenda and telling the truth would go against it
Might I recommend the "welcome to the eighties" series from Arte?
The rave is one of the most important spaces in society, influencing the zeitgeist, fashion, music & culture of society. In today's society it's one of the few spaces that brings together people from all backgrounds in presence, in a low state of ego, for extended periods. A medium & a melting pot for self expression & the opening of the mind. A microcosm of possibility. Techno's true power is it's ability to act like a decentralised, communal, global glue, helping us to realise how we are all connected through the universal language of sound.
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wow, thanks for sharing this words man ❤
that's actually very nicely put.
Facts
I've been lucky to live around the world & attend so many different music events spending the last 4 in London. My appreciation for techno grew when I travelled to Leipzig & Berlin for a month to see if I want to move there. While I was dancing on stage at Sisyphos, I looked down & it was one of those surreal moments where you think where I am, what world is this, this is surreal. I saw so many faces, stories, energies, forms of expression all dancing together as one & I thought this is how the world can be! As someone who tends to overthink & philosophise a lot a rave helps me get out of my head & also move my body in ways I didn't think possible. I always meet so many interesting ppl!
I am German, 1984, Techno is something that reaches me on a very deep level. Amazing emotions and I love to dance to it. I never took ecstasy because this amazing feeling comes naturally, just through the music. I can not explain why I love Techno so much more than other music genres.Sometimes when I listen and dance to a good DJ it feels like tribal music, a trance that I naturally love to move to. It feels like it actives stored emotions/instincs from the past. It also helps me imminently to let go of stress and anxiety because of the positive emotions I get from it. I cannot explain it differently, sorry.
I think that my experience has been similar to yours. I naturally enjoy techno without the need to take any drugs. People notice that I'm having a lot of fun and approach me asking for drugs. It's sad when you see a lot of young people becoming dependant on drugs in order to have a good time.
I think you explained it beautifully. Thanks for sharing!
Yes! Same here! A natural, spiritual high 😌🕺🏻🔊
@@fellahamine7068this happens to me ALL the time. People always ask me if I'm rolling and I get so sad when they ask me this. The music is enough 🖤
@@fellahamine7068 your experience being asked for drugs matches mine. Frequently people notice how I am having a great time and think „I must be on something good“. Once somebody even got aggressive because he would not believe that I am not on something and that I have nothing. He thought I was ditching/lying to him and he wanted to kick my ass! 😝. Also good to hear that are people out there that feel the same.
Interesting that Kraftwerk was left out of this
they are not Techno.. is about techno and is coming from Detroit
You are both right 😅
Kraftwerk is not techno, but basically all the Detroit grandmasters name Kraftwerk as one of their big influences…(though not in this video)
And Parliament and other funk bands too.
Kraft is not Techno, it is what it is.
@@neptunevibeIt's all electric music that influences each other. It's complete nonsense that techno hasn't been influenced by other styles of music. It is wrong to say that techno was invented out of thin air exclusively by African-Americans. For example, music by Kraftwerk had a lot in common with techno. It was merely slower.
Moreover, the Japanese manufacturer of these formative instruments by Roland should not be disregarded here. And music was produced with synthesizers long before that.
But the contribution of the African Americans from Detroit was certainly groundbreaking and extremely important for the genre, I do not want to minimize that. But I find this narrow-minded view of the origin of Techno very problematic.
@@e.d.8215 the video is documenting the origins of a single genre, not the entire history of electronic music, which goes far beyond Kraftwerk. The presentation is not disingenuous, just limited in scope.
As a Detroiter in my mid 50s, its always a pleasure to see our once underground culture now globalized and making the world dance.
people used to tell me "it is not going to last"
Your? The sound of Juan Atkins , "father" of early Detroit Techno its definitely not the sound of modern techno with his early tracks like "Alleys Of Your Mind" / "Audio Tech", also techno its a pretty broad term developed throughout the years but its modern sound is heavily inspired and developed by eu rave scene and way different from early Detroit, all credit for what people call techno definitely dosen't go just to Detroit.
@@fgjr96way and those same ppl shelling out Hundreds if not THOUSANDS to watch some washed up HAS been Hair metal sell outs to this DAY. SMDH LOL
@@stizan9185 those responsible for the modern sound and EU rave scene you mention credit the Detroit scene as their main influence.
Kraftwerk and Detroit are the core of Techno music.
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Tracklist: How Techno was Born
0:15 - 0:25 Reality - Ellen Allien (BPitch Control)
0:35 - 0:42 Clear - Cybotron (Fantasy)
0:50 - 1:05 Autobahn - Barrie Gledden et al (Audio Network)
1:10 - 1:30 Berlin Minimal - George Giorgia (Audio Network)
1:45 - 2:15 Cyber Trolls - Igor Dvorkin et al (Audio Network)
3:05 - 3:25 Sound vom loop Tresor Archivmaterial (ohne Angabe)
3:35 - 3:50 Session 1 - Juan Atkins (Tresor Records)
3:50 - 4:05 Blake Baxter @ Loveparade 1996 Tresor Archivmaterial (ohne Angabe)
4:25 - 4:35 Alleys of your Mind - Cybotron (Deep Space)
4:50 - 5:05 Alleys of your Mind - Cybotron (Deep Space)
6:07 - 6:26 Detroitism (Generator) -DJ T-1000
8:45 - 8:58 Detroitism (Generator) -DJ T-1000
6:33 - 6:44 Memoir (Symbolism) - ANNE
7:17 - 7:27 Cutting In - Patrick DSP (Interruption Records)
8:30 - 8:45 Blake Baxter @ Loveparade 1996 Tresor Archivmaterial (ohne Angabe)
9:10 - 9:22 Unclean Spirit - Blush Response (Sonic Groove)
9:35 - 9:50 Blake Baxter @ Loveparade 1996 Tresor Archivmaterial (ohne Angabe)
10:10 - 10:20 For An Angel - Paul van Dyk
10: 37 - 10:50 Paul van Dyk @ Loveparade 1996 Tresor Archivmaterial (ohne Angabe)
11:33 - 11:43 Ellen Allien @ Loveparade 1996 Tresor Archivmaterial (ohne Angabe)
11:43 - 12:10 KCKC - Ellen Allien (BPitch Control)
13:25 - 13:45 Jupiter Beach - Alexis Smith & Joe Henson et al (Audio Network)
14:35 - 14:45 Cyber Trolls - Igor Dvorkin et al (Audio Network)
15:40 - 15:50 LOVE - Ellen Allien (BPitch Control)
16:20 - 16:40 LOVE - Ellen Allien (BPitch Control)
17:10 - 17:50 Thought Process - Infiniti (Tresor)
17:55 - 18:30 The Berlin Session 1- Juan Atkins (Tresor Records)
18:40 - 18:45 The Berlin Session 1- Juan Atkins (Tresor Records)
19:30 - 19:45 Dystopia (Original Mix) - Rebūke (Drumcode)
Thank You 🙏🏿 so much for the Playlist x for this awesome documentary ♥️
Ahghh, the one I'm after is just a loop. Thanks for the list tho!
The Blake Baxter loop is sick. If anyone knows what it is 🙏🏼
For me for the dj, club & rave subculture to survive it must reject mainstream influences and get back intouch with its underground roots in order to find its rhythm, energy, vibe, crowd and audience that understood its meaning, art and message its trying to convey.
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Everything is constantly changing and it is unstoppable. I also miss the sounds of the 90s and the good old heavy Detroit tecno and house music (which is now sold as house ... puke) - but that's the way it is. A new generation demands their own music.
@@VJKaiC Yes, But i also want them to know where it stems from and how it sounded. Especially Trance, House & Techno you name it.
Music/techno/dance etc will never die, that's absurd.
There will be a mainstream 'business techno' economy and a true underground scene run by smaller 'purist' groups who are not driven by profit and social media engagement but by musical experience, a sense of freedom and expression.
@@IsaacSMILEou are right. In the second half of the 90s we had the first phase of „techno going mainstream“ (in a very ugly way) and back then I was scared that the commercial wave would kill the underground…
The opposite happened, the mainstream commercial techno died out quickly back then, and the underground strived.
We since then had the same development a few times, but in the end „the underground never dies“
I think everybody forgets that Frankfurt is actually the city that brought Techno to Germany and made it big. Nowadays Berlin just screams Techno all the time but became kind of mainstream in many ways.
not everybody. "gude laune"...💥
This video is talking about the genre techno.Your thinking of techno as in the name for EDM.
The origins of Techno/ Trance is in fact from Frankfurt, by @Talla 2XLC
The year was 1981, he was inspired by Kraftwerk, and he named the term of the music style as techno, see the video
In 1984 he started TechnoClub in Frankfurt
Later was Front 242, later again Techno came to the US (Detroit)
But the origins came from Germany
Talla 2XLC interview, 30 Years of Technoclub, Frankfurt, 2014.
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Frankfurt+Nürnberg=Berlin Techno 1989....No discussion cuz i saw It all happening back then..,and yes, before "Techno" there was "Electro"....and the Transition from one Thing To the other happened via Juan Atkins...from "Cybotron" To "Model 500" ..basically the three First cities To have Venues (and Wharehouseparties😂) playing 4/4 Electronic Dancemusic under the moniker "Techno" were Frankfurt and Nürnberg. When the wall came down, "Berlin" was basically built by locals and Lots of people rushing there from F. and N. to basically start It all Up, Like WE all know It today...
Frankfurt Terrorist aka Marc Acardipane aka Marshall Masters aka Inferno Brothers.
I like it loud.
Slaves to the rave.
6 million ways to die.
Juan is giving me an Obi Wan vibe with his earthy outfit. Im loving it. Thanks for the great music.
Moved in Berlin 2 years ago. After adapting to the City, I fell in love with the Techno. Having visited other major European cities, nobody can argue that Berlin still has one of the best scenes out there.
I really love watching these videos, learning about the roots of this genre and how it developed to be what it is today.
I was unlucky not to live those glorious days. Currently what really bothers me is that the scene got greatly commercialized, big events are about profit and the smartphones along with the great visual effects during those events seem to be taking off many things that Techno had to offer during its emergence.
But still in Berlin there are places for people to listen to Techno, dance and forget about the outer world while being there, where as much as possible cameras are turned off.
I get why the older ones feel that the scene has changed and it surely has, but that goes with everything in life. So I think we should embrace these changes while not forgetting what the scene is meant to represent.
as said in the report: "the main job is, to keep the dancefloor in action and the audience smiling" .... the older ones should stop complaining about changes in life and do what they did when they were young: enjoy music, be happy, make people around you happy. Berlin has changed only for the old ones. For the young ones visiting Berlin, especially those from normal sized towns, the city and the club culture here is still amazing... but of course in context of today and their life, not that of young people from 35 years ago :-).
p.s.: greetings from another berlinian. an average older one :D
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I've been lcubbing in berlin half a dozen times and in all places they made me cover the phone camera and there was little to no visual. Isn't that common there?
@@losfogo7149 it's really common indeed. Only at techno events you won't have your camera covered. Maybe also at some more touristic clubs but have not gone to one of those to speak.
Yes, techno gets me moving. ❤
As a Berliner I must say that the huge difference between the glorious 80s/90s/2000s techno era and today's techno in Berlin is, that we lived it underground back then, it was a special cosmos we could escape during the weekends...Friday evening in, Monday morning out...then back to our work and repeat it next weekend...no one out there knew...it's very different now but still proud that Berlin is the capital of Techno!
it really isn't. Techno has so many capitals. Berlin is only one cog in the wheel.
i always giggle at such nostalgic commentaries, the newer generation is always worse and blabla, nonsense, Techno scene is bigger, more diverse and accessible, there is something for everyone out there
@@felipepetersberchielli1651 Perhaps if you had experienced the days of past you wouldn't be making this comment. The mobile phone - aware that they can be recorded - crowd is a far cry from those jacking in the late 80's, early 90's. Kids these days really need to learn how to party.
@@felipepetersberchielli1651 lol not more diverse at all. This era is a massive imitation era.
@@felipepetersberchielli1651 That is the opposite of diverse. There is so much rehash.
And the rehashers are the nostalgic ones.
VVhich makes your Comment hilarious
Thankfully Blake Baxter made an appearance in this. Early Detroit pioneer whose name is not nearly as known as the belleville 3, but deserves respect for shaping the sound in the earliest days of techno
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Yeah been an EDM lover for decades and always thought its roots where here in Europe but just recently learned its roots actually where from America specifically African Amercan culture. But it seems like Americans didn't take a liking too it too the same level as Europeans.
well, he's the prince of techno afterall
100%
We definitely need a tracklist. There are so many good songs. Especially in Alan Oldham’s part.
I Repeat! we definitley need a track list!! there are so many fucking good songs!!!
Any luck ?
3:57
yes please!!! we need it
min 17:13 is very nice TRACK , I LOVE THIS SOUND ... does anyone know what the name is? Greetings from Allgäu Bavaria :)
@@andervole5311 Infiniti - Thought Process. Hooked me too :)
Never like Techno previously. But during my blackest period few years back, gave it a chance. And yes, Techno, particularly CDW, saved me during those times. Now this is the only dance music I listened to, plus Nora En Pure.
I live in the Metro Detroit Area. I’m “new” to the REAL scene. Last two years I’ve TRULY started digging into what House and Techno is. Movement Featival (Once DEMF) really opened my eyes to the talent that has come to Detroit.
Small clubs in Detroit on any given night can have the names of some of the best: Eddie Fowlkes, Juan Atkins, Kevin Saunderson, Daniel Bell, Stacey Pullen, Carl Craig, Norm Talley, Delano Smith, Mike (Agent X) Clark, the list goes on and on.
AUX88 playing at Spotlite 8/18/2023🙌🏼
Detroit's techno pioneers received very little local support aside from family and close friends. Public acknowledgement of Detroit's musical legacy, historic relevance in dance music is relatively recent. Paxahau nearly white-washed Detroit by taking away Movement Festival time slots from local heroes to showcase RA Top 40 favourites for over a decade until a couple of years ago. Charivari Detroit is mostly local, with a friends-and-family atmosphere (true to the spirit of the city) - and yet largely overlooked by the "Detroit Pioneer loving' Movement crowd. There is no thriving local club scene in Detroit today either and neither of the cities greats can fill a dance floor larger than a dive bar on the 361 days when Movement isn't happening. Most of the love, support and big $ bookings are coming from NYC, LA, Europe and the rest of the world.
@@Beaneumann Agree, they do not get local support a DEMF will come around Memorial Day weekend ,put on a show, and then its over zip, not a word or a care, I stopped going downtown cause it is not the same. Motor Detroit, Zoo in Windsor, Clutch Cargos and Industry in Pontiac those were great times. even blasting the radio of "may day mixing" on WJLB in the neighborhood was fun. That IS WHY IN OTHER COUNTRIES IT IS respected more than here, most people don't like music without words
This must have been the most incomplete documentary on the 'origin' of techno I have ever seen.
This doc gives the impression some guys in Detroid tinkerd with some electronics and voila: you have techno!
Techno came from afrobeat, disco, house and new beat!
Greetings from Belgium 🇧🇪 !
no mention of Kraftwerk or Micheal Alig
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Yes I agree. This was waaaay too short. Was hoping to see and hear more about Detroit... the connections between Detroit and Berlin, more art... Drexciya... Robert Hood.. there's so much more ground to cover. DW don't let us down!
@@adj789 Alig is more house than techno. I also fail to see why a glorified promotor should be mentioned.
There was a saying in the 90s: Techno is music sounding like machines, and Trance is machines sounding like music.
Yes
Chicago gets no credit? Detroit did not start making techno, they were producing House music. Techno began with acid house and Ron Hardy was the first dj in the world to strip vocals & speed up the BPMs at the Music Box. Detroit cats were producing for labels in Chicago, even the first unofficial Techno track was written by Thomas Barnett called Nude Photo was distributed by Gherkin Records from Chicago on Derrick Mays Transmat label. Also forgotten is the long lost Techno scene in LA, which gave way to Gangster Rap & Hip Hop. Detroit transplant Andre Manuel aka Unknown DJ moved to LA around 1981 and produced electro & Hip Hop, he was the first to coin the term Techno on his Techno Hop label in 1984. Techno Hop label birthed modern West Coast Hip Hop with Ice T's 6 in da Morning. Also Juan Atkins never really produced in Cybotron, it was Rik Davis who needs to be credited, he is the one who pioneered Detroit electro/techno production and djs Delano Smith & Ken Collier (RIP) pioneered Detroit House./Techno Dj scene. Somebody needs to make a real documentary about the real roots of the movement, not the white washed UK version of the story of Techno & House
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us and our community. In this video from our "Arts Unveiled" series, we focused on Detroit and Berlin. However, it's true that Techno is also home to other cities like Chicago or Frankfurt. Thank you for watching.
Detroit was doing electro and disco before techno. House music was Chicago's thing, inspired heavily by the New York disco scene. Detroit started branching out into 4/4 music stripped of vocals after some friendly back-and-forths with Chicago once House started blowing up. Chronologically speaking the genre of Techno is younger than House music by a few years.
Techno is NOT acid house--I wish people would stop making this silly mistake. By that logic, you'd be contradicting yourself when you say "Nude Photo" was the first "unofficial" techno track given that Phuture's Acid Trax was the first acid house track.
I’m born in Detroit. Raised in LA. I was in Detroit in the summer of 1981. That summer “Alley Of Your Mind” , “Sharivari” and Was Not Was “Out acomes The Freaks” along with Kraftwerk’s “Number”. That summer the term that was used for this new music in 1981 Detroit was “Techno Beat”. When I came back to LA for school that fall my aunt introduced me to her friend since I came back from Detroit into dee jaying. Her friend moved back to Chicago. He was Ronnie to me. He is known to the world as Ron Hardy. My point is there were no Chicago records yet! I will say that when Chicago started to make records it was amazing!
@@HouseMusicDefined Ron Hardy's Sensation on Trax was an awesome track!
@@HouseMusicDefined A lot was happening back then. I grew up in Detroit and in 1981, we were just coming out of "New Wave". That's when the storm of Cybotron, Shari Vari and Kraftwerk hit. Many influences and maybe it is a continuity thing. But to tune in to this documentary and see people say that Detroit just "adopted" sounds and then called it Techno, is like saying that Chicago just "adopted" music and created House. There's a reason why we have both House and Techno. Thanks for the reference to Ron Hardy. With his "pitched up" mixes, he influenced the Detroit cats who went to his parties to do something. They couldn't call it House in Detroit, so they called it "Techno, the new Detroit Sound". Of course we grew up with Kraftwerk, Italo Disco, and the B52's, just like Chicago grew up with Disco and the Philly Sound. It's the innovation that eventually created something new in 1985 and 1986.
Thanks for spending doing the time to create and share this content
Electronic music heals just like every other genre of music. I believe in music. I love techno!
The earliest proto-forms of techno are found in the work of German bands like Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream. Kraftwerk were using 4-to-the-floor beats exactly like found in techno tracks as early as 1973 and some of these tracks could actually be played in a modern set. Not the music, but the rave scene around it emerged in the US. Techno itself stems from electro, which started off in the German rock scene when synthesizers and drum machines took the place of guitars and drum kits.
Then there's the melodic side of electronic music, e.g. trance, which is based on 1970s space rock bands like Space and of course the composer Jean-Michel Jarre. The US was the birthplace of house though, which emerged when producers started sampling funk and disco records over a drum machine beat, making both house as a genre as well as its precursors native to the US.
Thanks for sharing your insights!
Yes.
But Even house was influenced by the German electronic music.
House music morphed out of Electro music. Electro was a combination of German/ UK electronic influence and funk/ black dance music
Sometimes I dont care where it started but when you work together you make beautiful sounds of music, long live Disco and Techno Music
techno for me is still will be underground and always be underground
It has been mainstream since the nineties
it was mass mainstream in the nineties
VVhat Generation are you ?
Fidget house dj here. Nashville. 2008-13. Great times. Thank you all originals
Whether Berlin or Detroit were the first, one forgets that techno was already being played in Frankfurt am Main in 1982 at the Dorian Gray. In 1984, DJ Talla founded the techno club there. The club was also unique in the world at the time, as there was no curfew at Frankfurt Airport and you could party around the clock! A(O)MEN
exactly this, first techno releases from Germany date back to the mid 80s, as per Discogs
1981 in Detroit........ Detroit invented it stop trying to steal that
@@memmem77 In the past, there was always this battle between Frankfurt and Berlin, which is the techno capital. However, techno definitely existed earlier in Frankfurt than in Berlin. In Berlin it was also more trancy, whereas in Frankfurt the beats were harder. But we must also highlight the Belgian productions, before with New Beat and from 1990 with Techhouse. Techno music from Belgium made techno really popular. Labels such as R&S, Bonzai, Music Man, Diki etc..
@@franz9573 agreed, fully. Frankfurt started their own experiments under Tallah, Bigod20, No UFO, Robotiko etc. Berlin adopted the style from Frankfurt and Detroit,
don't forget kraftwerke and Tangerine dream in the 70's
For anyone looking for the track that plays between 3:50-4:03 and again at 9:34-9:50, is _Love Has Taken Over · Ground 96_
It's sped up a bit. but after searching from Blake Baxter's live shows from Tresor, I found it.
Edit #1: It's also Garage House, not Techno. Which means that House and Techno are much alike than how its stated in this documentary. Tech House is an oxymoron.
Thanks mate 😁
Thank you! I've been looking for it for a few days now.
Soon as I heard that kick and sound I needed to know the name ha . Nice one !
Anyone knows name of this track
9:10 -9:22 ? Thank you
Long Live Techno💘💖
Kraftwerk is not Techno, it's the same as saying that James Brown did Hip Hop.
This documentary is great, it gave credit to the originators of Techno.
@@petraliebkind9309
Facts are facts, there's no need to get personal over known musical recorded history, Kraftwerk is not Techno, Parliament is not Techno.
Wiley invented Grime, it doesn't matter who he listened to, each genre of music has its originators, get your facts right.
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It cured my ptsd.Great doc keep them coming.
Kraftwerk is the DNA. Period.
George Clinton fans would disagree
Techno made in Detroit influenced by German electronic music using Japanese gear. Techno is a global genre,
The lack of lyrics makes techno universal. It's a primal feeling.
don't forget that they were making techno in the mid 80s in Frankfurt already
By that logic, every music genre is a global genre.
Yes very true. thank you for your comment ... and not to forget the influence of other European electronic music
.... and mostly forgotten: pioneering musicians like Don Lewis who helped a lot to develop not only Japanese gear. A good read is: articles.roland.com/tadao-kikumoto-exclusive-conversation/
P.L.U.R.
Thanks for document! Amazing!! ❤
Thanks so much for posting
I've been to Tresor and Detroit. I was at Movement festival in May. Love this music I love this scene.
Thank you very much for sharing your personal experience with us. Sending you all the best
I discovered techno during the love parade Era. I didn’t need explanation. It just felt so right, the hypnotic BPM, the community feel. Detroit techno is certainly the best. But Berlin techno scene rules. Great doc!
Germany made it better
Oh! And a special thank you to Juan Atkins! Thank you!
I enjoyed this documentary!! I love techno music
Absolutely Love House music made from the Outstanding Roland 909 machine back in Detroit and Chicago.
Evolving into Techno...and currently Deep House.
Long live this 🎶 genre 🎉
Good job DW shedding light on Techno 🎇
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I remember watching a video years ago by some Detroit DJs that stated Kraftwerk and Depeche Mode-specifically Alan Wilder’s production on “Get The Balance Right” had a massive impact on Detroit house!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences.
One my fav photo is with Dave Gahan and Derrick May in late 80's
Sad Yellow Magic Orchestra doesn’t get the recognition they deserve 😔
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@@DWHistoryandCulture They don't get the recognition because they are Yellow and not Black.
They're weren't founders of techno. If you even listen to their 1981 album Technodelic, it's not techno because there was no techno 1981. It's not even electro It's post punk, new wave, synth pop and maybe italo. And to say they aren't recognized is an absolutely ridiculous statement. Anyone who really knows great music and dance culture knows they put out some great stuff.
❤ this.love hearing the originals again
Nice to see the Music videos Ive created For Ellen Allien getting featured here :-)
very nice visuals mate, keep them up!!
Techno came from Kraftwerk and Tokyo's Yellow Magic Orchestra. The latter appeared on Soul Train.
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@@DWHistoryandCulture So techno has White and Yellow roots as well.
Yes.. Yellow Magic Orchestra a classic group that should have their day
@@Du-Moulin The modern sound of techno is pretty much the most heavily inspired by wt, the sound of Juan Atkins , "father" of early Detroit Techno its definitely not the sound of modern techno with his early tracks like "Alleys Of Your Mind", also techno its a pretty broad term developed throughout the years but its modern sound is heavily inspired and developed by eu rave scene and way different from early Detroit, all credit for what people call techno definitely dosen't go just to Detroit to say that's where it comes from, not even gonna mention the actual roots of elec dance music go bck to Kraftwerk Man made machine/Computerwelt albums
@@Du-Moulin calling asian people yellow isn't OK. Techno has inclusive roots, so maybe work on not being racist?
For me Techno is a progression of what acts like Kraftwerk were doing in the 70's. What sets Techno apart from other genre's is it's machine like rhythm & unashamedly robotic/ synthetic flavour.
Agreed and there's video evidence of kraftwerk from 1970 playing techno at the rockpalast and available on CZcams, glad someone has said this other than myself 👍
Came to say the same thing. It started with Kraftwerk, not Detroit. When Kraftwerk came to Detroit, every Detroit hip hop/ techno artist came to pay tribute.
of course you are right, the media is just blatantly lying to us
Kraftwerk made electro or synth pop.... not techno....... Detroit took alot of what Chicago was doing with House................................. anyone with a brain knows the difference.
@@robthatcher1817totally agree. I dj and I would not play those 1970 Kraftwerk songs in a set. That would make everyone go drink
Techno gets me moving from 90's
The term 'techno' - in regard to a specific musical genre - certainly was coined in Detroit by the Belleville Three (Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson), after Alvin Toffler's concept of "techno-rebels" explored in his book Future Shock. Sonically, the roots of techno of course go way longer and deeper (eg. Luigi Russolo, Pierre Schaeffer, Delia Derbyshire, Kraftwerk, Afrika Bambaataa...), all converging on that new underground sound in Detroit. But it's quite reductive to present Berlin as the place where it all started in Europe when acid house parties and then techno raves had started happening around (Western and Northern) Europe more or less around the same time in the late 1980s. And I believe in Germany, Frankfurt was way ahead of Berlin, with DJs there using the term 'techno' already in the early 80s to describe "technologically created dance music". Berlin was one of the pioneers of techno CLUB culture, but as a birthplace of techno movement, it was just one among the many in Europe (albeit an important one, naturally).
Thanks for sharing your insights!
None of the B3 clowns ever read Alvin Toffler.
you 100% right my man.
@@kimkadish6232 Juan Atkins did. Why do you refer to them as clowns?
The current generation is so lazy when it comes to research
Techno originated in EUROPE. It originated from GERMAN and UK electronic groups and acid house
Techno surfaced in North America around 1993, after it became a part of the rave scene with Acid house in the UK in the late 80's and very early 90's.
House Music originated in the U.S from Electro music
The music made in Detroit in the 80's was a take on the Electro genre, a type of music that was extremely popular in the U.S and Canada around 1982 - 1984.
House music came from the mixing of the ELECTRO genre with black dance music.
People in Detroit in the 90's mixed the incoming Techno music from the Raves in the UK with house music.
Enough of the laziness.
And everyone keeps buying into the same laziness that is put out
The techno scene has an pretty interesting following and atmosphere here in South Africa. Devoted ravers, well thought out environments and incredible music. Really dope to learn about the history in greater detail!
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I will be moving to South Africa soon. Any suggestions on where to experience the scene? Which cities? What media streams to follow? Would really appreciate the info!
Its wild not to mention Frankfurt
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I always had an interest in electronic music from the earliest days making mixed tapes.
Kraftwerk??? I mean come on even the original detroit DJs recognise them as hugely influential in the orgins of dance music
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I was born in Berlin and watched techno grow
As a native Detroiter, I’m proud to say I am one of the original members of the music Institute or the MI as we used to call it or the toot…
Best years of my teenage life thank you Derek, George Alton, Kevin, Juan, and Chez for amazing memories
AGREE but no mention of the Scene or New Dance Show we were having good times and thanks to WJLB,WGPR,POWER 96 AND 88.7 KEEPING THE MUSIC GOING
@@fgjr96way weren't those some of the things Jeff Mills was playing on TV and radio in the 80s? And the MI as you know was a club, so I don't think the original commenter necessarily meant those things didn't exist, but was rather talking about where he was spending his young adult nights on the dancefloor.
at first when i listened to techno i didnt really understand it, but i agree with ellen alien. once i learnt to dance to it i fell in love with it. i also think that techno is best at camping festivals, despite the commercial nature i am addicted to feeling the bass in my body. there's less rules about noise restriction unlike most events in the city.
Die beste Zeit 1990 - 1994 in Berlin, aber ich bin auch oft in Detroit - I LOVE DETROIT 😍
I did not like techno until I had made some visuals that would fit great to techno music. I wanted to produce the track for the visuals myself so I had to study techno first. When I was "stuck" listning to a loop I had made, I suddenly got the appeal of techno.
All I can say is that....I ❤Techno!!
Really good snapshot documentary of a specific culture & scene, relevant to two cities!
The digital electronic age is finally starting to mature, and find itself. The techno sound is perfect for the emerging age.
Cybotron, Kevin Saunderson, Derrick May, Kraftwerk of course.. let's not forget Moroder, Yellow Magic Orchestra..... and Japanese technological innovation.. Technics, Roland etc that made the gear that was repurposed by creative minds to get these new sounds and music forms "the street finds its own uses for things"
All yeses!!
Agreed.....when the TR-909 and TB-303 came out in the early nineties (amidst a which of "affordable" polyphonic synth), they were commercial failures to be dug up in the late eighties out of thrift stores and combined with the SL1202 that hiphop had already discovered. But I don't see Techno and/or House (wasn't that term coined in Chicago, at the Warehouse club) as strictly Berlinaise. For instance, a lot of raves were causing "problems" in the UK as well as in my country (just to te left of you) for instance in the form of Miss Djax (DJ and label owner) from 040 and DJ Isis from 020 (though not a native) (and Gabber, but lets not go into that, so not my thing, from 010). But electronic dance music is strong in Germany without a shadow of a doubt. But we AFAIK were the first country to commercialize DJ music into a stadium extravaganza (unfortunately). with ID&T being one of the driving forces behind it.
Why is there no early film footage of techno supposedly originating in Detroit, while there are recordings of Kraftwerk from 1970 playing something very similar to techno in front of an audience? Nice try Deutsche Welle!
Thanks for asking. As we mentioned in the video, US DJs were flown in from Detroit to play at Berlin clubs such as Tresor. There is actual footage of that at min 8:30. The fact that we could only use very limited archival material from Detroit also has to do with copyright. Thanks for understanding.
Thanks for this ❤
Following Magic Juan Atkins' definition: Kraftwerk = techno
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Homage to KRAFTWERK.
electronic music existed well before Kraftwerk
Dancing to Kraftwerk kinda hard tbh. Thank goodness kids made it better
lmfao Kraftwerk?
Homage to JUAN ATKINS!
Kraftwerk aint shit 😂
@@BlamBar-qj8yh yeah, those kraftwerk kids weren't even born when atkins dropped the techno beat.... XD LMFAO.
techno is the only thing that makes sense, it's a state of mind, a way to perceive the world and live, Techno saved me.
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Juan Atkins' mixes were sick good. the ones from way back - early 90s)
Studying techno... What a cool job.
DW you need to make part 2 or 3 asap of this because you missed a lot of other pioneers
Frankfurt might have something to say about Berlin being the birthplace!
Birthplace of what?
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@@DWHistoryandCulture Yes its True Im from Frankfurt from the Beginning of that Movement,Talla open the Techno Club Sundays @ the Club "No Name" in 1984 than later went to Dorian Gray i Think Fridays Downstairs the Third Floor 😉
It definitely my favourite kind of music
i discovered rominimal a few years back and i am absolutely hooked. Some amazing music coming out of romania
Bro please share name of some tracks so i can go discover. Im super intrigued
@@LedgerLiner these 2 sets are good place to start
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Enjoy
@@ANGE__LICA big up !
@@LedgerLiner Bryz - Senin 2
Electricano - Baba Yaga
Cojoc & Moldovan - Pleasure
Nelly Furtado - Give it to me (Lukea edit)
Traumer - Classroom
Marcu Rares - Minute
Even though I don't like techno, I think it was a very interesting documentary. Thank you
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Kraftwerk was ahead of their time, and that was the sparkle
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great piece thanks for telling it like it is.
Very good. I remember being introduced to techno in high school. I can also remember my first rave in the early 90s in Toledo ohio and not far from Detroit and Richie hawtin as the attraction. I believe he was part +8 and minus. Good times, but now house is more my speed. Thankful for all the content creators.
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As a frankfurter, i don't completely agree, of course. the Omen opened in 1988, the Dorian Gray in 1978. at the Dorian Gray, there was a club called Technoclub. Techno was already well established in Frankfurt in 1990, which you can not say about Berlin this started only in 1991. Berlin had Westbam, but Frankfurt had 16 Bit, Sven Väth, Thorsten Fenslau, who produced techno music before 1990. Detroit techno, however, has strongly influenced the techno scene in Germany and worldwide and also made it more danceable. German techno until 1989 was less danceable.
Thank you for adding these valuable insights!
There was no Techno at the Omen in 1988. When you read Groove charts of Sven Väth from 1990 you see that he still played stuff like Rozalla and other commercial stuff next to early "Techno" tracks in early 1990.
Techno in Frankfurt for a long time meant Front 242 and Nitzer EBB as this was what Talla played in the Technoclub. The program changed slightly in 1990 when the first 3h where purely Techno House before Talla took over and played EBM again.
In the beginning everyone said Techno House not only Techno
@@maltrapikilo3720 sven väth played techno at the omen in the early days beginning at 3-4 o'clock in the morning, from the end of 1990 also earlier. From 1991 almost only techno, acid etc. Before that he played charts, but also hip house, house and RnB. Dr. Alban (Hello Africa) and live Rozalla (Everybody is free) also performed at the Omen. The audience at the Omen was rather snobby until mid-1990, after which it changed radically. The average age was also much older. I was 16 in 1988 and was also rejected. Had to put on a shirt and jacket. Mahmut the bouncer I could attract with cigarillos and I came in then. From 1991, the average age was 21. 24-25 before that. Most of the older audience moved to the Club Plastik (The White House) near the courthouse in Frankfurt.
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@@maltrapikilo3720 In addition, there was even the Music Hall in Frankfurt (Halle), but then closed in the early 90s. There were acid parties in 1988. Acid parties were around Frankfurt a lot in 1988, even in the dancing school Weiss in Offenbach or a disco in Offenbach where mainly migrants frequented (Name of the Club Agree).
@@franz9573 that's what Iam saying, so Frankfurt wasn't super early and Sven Väth not the first one who played only Techno.
I wrote an entire paper on this subject❤
Very entertaining and informative video. Interesting also reading the commenters on different experiences, angles, and opinions on how many first identified techno and/or its origins. From the video and discussions I have learned alot.
As a junior high school student in the mid 80s I thought records by Transmat and Metroplex were straight up European products (hearing the tracks, but not seeing the labels). Into my high school and college years I came to discover that many of these compositions were from Detroit. These records along with the dark and moody European Imports, The New York Sound, local house, and a touch of bboy/electro/freestyle were the signature sound of Chicago mix radio, streets, and clubs throughout the 80s and much of the 90s. And that's not shading hip-hop/rap in the city which also had its loyalists in those years -dj collectives, MCs, writers.
Thanks so much. Always loved Techno. Great to see the photo of Richie Hawtin from 1990. He still is absolutely incredible to me.
DJ Ritchie Rich when I first heard him
Hawtin is like the Bad Boy Bill of Detroit, just not as skilled as a turntablist. True legend.
Although Detroit techno started in the late 70's I remember going to the underground raves in Detroit as a teenager in the 90's and it was the funnest time of my life. The scene the venues the people the real MDMA the fort dodge ketaset and nitrous John's tanks that filled the after parties.
Interested in hearing some Detroit Techno from the late 70s. My earliest records are from around 1983. Please send some recommends ?
@@SirAlexis1 He don't know what he's talking about. Maybe he's confusing electro with techno. Techno didn't come around until a few years after 83 - 86/87
Great video! 🎵 This comprehensive overview of the birth and evolution of techno and electro music from Detroit to Berlin and back is incredibly informative. The influence of pioneers like Cybotron and Model 500 from Detroit, along with the innovative work of Kraftwerk, added a unique dimension to electronic music.
Cybotron's album "Techno City," released in 1984, is often credited with coining the term "techno," and it was a pivotal moment in the genre's history.
Kraftwerk deserves recognition for their groundbreaking electronic music contributions. Their album "Computer World" from 1981, featuring tracks like "Numbers," "Computer World 2," and "It's More Fun to Compute," significantly contributed to the development of techno and electro music. "Trans-Europe Express" from 1977 also played a pivotal role and was later sampled by Afrika Bambaataa. Additionally, Kraftwerk's influence extended to A Number of Names, who sampled their music in the track "Sharevari" in 1981. These connections highlight Kraftwerk's enduring impact on the electronic music landscape.
Ryuichi Sakamoto's "Riot in Lagos" from 1980 deserves special mention for its innovative fusion of electronic and traditional Japanese elements, showcasing how global influences played a role in shaping electronic music.
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Intresting thank you
Wait I needed like 90 more minutes of this.
I think DW don’t know, German techno was first in Frankfurt and not Berlin. Talla 2XLC and Sven Väth with their clubs Technoclub and Omen were largely responsible for the emergence of techno and trance in Germany. The rest is history.
The first techno DJ is Juan Atkins. The music artists you mentioned came much later.
@@europeanpatriot21 Juan Atkins is co-founder of Detroit Techno and not German Techno. I’ve been never a fan of Detroit Techno. It was too funky for me. German Techno emerged from ‘Sound of Frankfurt’ was much harder and rawer.
Techno is very special. To me, it has withstood and transcends all other genres of electronic music. The point of it is to be repetitive through the powerful driving beat, but it also tells a story through the progression of chords and sounds that are layered in top of the beat. The best is to hear that story unfold as the DJ weaves many tracks together in a long set, each track tells its own story but also contributes to the wider story of the whole set, the way individual scenes make up a whole movie. You can listen to different tracks and know they would go well when mixed together, usually bringing one up while the other is coming to a close. I love listening to the interpretation of what tracks the DJ thinks goes well together, to tell his or her story through the whole set. Techno then becomes, as a whole, greater than the sum of its parts. I know of no other genre of music that can so well be used to play off of and inform individual songs with others. Its power especially comes when you can do that succesfully, keeping the same vibe, between two songs which were made decades apart, or songs that are different subgenres and you are taking your listener on a musical journey.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences.
Nice thank you so much for this video
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Techno is the biggest music szene and the Loveparade comes back last year 🎉
The first time I ever heard techno was Jeff Mills DJing in Space Ibiza
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Great documentary, any chance of a tracklist?
Yes techno gets me moving!
Techno forever!!❤😊
This is just to add to the polarization everywhere. It skips over so much to lay worship at your particular groups golden child
Sorry, we may not be following along yet. Could you please elaborate on your point?
Does anybody know the track at 9:45?
A good read into some of the history is Laurent Garnier's Electrochoc.
Great insights and backgrounds on people, clubs, cities and connections you would not have dreamed of.
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Düsseldorf to Detroit to Berlin to ...
No Kraftwerk > No Detroit Techno
Thanks for your comment. Yes, the influence of electronic music from Europe was big. Especially through eclectic local radio hosts like Electrifying Mojo.
Well, this documentary is not well researched. No words about Frankfurt and their scene rivalry with Berlin. How about Swen Väth and his club Omen in Frankfurt. He even played at Elon Musk Gigafacrory opening. Talla 2XLC was basically a pionier for commercialization of techno. The music from Detroit was different and came also later to Germany.
It's definetly right that Frankfurt played a huge roll in developing techno music and club culture. But in this video we wanted to focus on the DJs that created and mixed the sound that has impacted todays techno the most. Here is an interview segment of Talla 2XLC where he describes the sound of the earlier days in his club: "I still remember the early days of Technoclub when our crowd partied to the sounds of Kraftwerk, Depeche Mode, The Cure, Human League, and Front 242. Nowadays there are mostly no bands behind the tunes anymore, the 90s and the present is the age of DJs and computer freaks as producers." You are right that the music from Detroit came later, but as Talla 2XLC says himself it's what held on to the present.
Great documentary, thank you ! And yes I move with techno, and do it every day, I even started my own label together with a friend !
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Didn't Talla 2XLC from Frankfurt first invented term Techno even before 1990? Or is that just a myth...😅
He was one of the first in Germany.
At 5.00 in the article ‘FUTURE SHOCK’ written by Stewart Cosgrove- coins the word techno for the first time. He visits Derek May Juan Atkins and Kevin Saunderson in the late 80s and he’s going through they’re records at the house in Bellvue. He’s expecting to find all sorts of mo town stuff from just down the street and he’s like ‘what is this- the Thompson twins?!? 😂’ they go to a party together and as Stewart is about to leave the visit he says to Derek ‘well I need a name for the genre’ Dereks like ‘eh I don’t know, new jack house or something’ Stewart says ‘well it’s all electronic instruments that are technology- can we go with techno lads?’ They agree and the rest is history. I’ve met the pair of them and they agreed this with me in conversation. Stuart is from Scotland. Yaaas