History of The Red Lotus (Legend of Korra)

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  • čas přidán 13. 09. 2021
  • Here’s a video of the origin of the Red lotus and why we think this is the most dominate villain group in the avatarverse. We can all relate that when harmonic convergence hit in book 3 of TLOK, nobody anticipated that we would get an entirely new villain group and also new Airbenders! Tell us your opinion on the Red Lotus in the comments below. Also don’t forget to share our video it helps the channel grow :)
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  • @RedRaikou
    @RedRaikou Před 2 lety +1677

    Zaheer was my favorite character because although a villain he made great points, he was skilled, achieved what no one else did since Lahima (to fly would be a dream come true for me btw) and then he even helped Korra not only enter the Spirit World but also get over of what he himself did to her and he doesn't even hold a grudge over losing.
    PS: Ghazan was also pretty cool

    • @Prince-Shogun
      @Prince-Shogun Před 2 lety +12

      Same!

    • @Blejzak
      @Blejzak Před 2 lety +136

      Not to mention he dated a hot girl, that was taller than him.

    • @nexusshark
      @nexusshark Před 2 lety +99

      @@Blejzak Speaking of which, both Combusion Benders we've seen so far are pretty tall

    • @bigpapagorge9667
      @bigpapagorge9667 Před 2 lety +15

      did you not see how much suffering his childish anarchistic ideals caused

    • @RedRaikou
      @RedRaikou Před 2 lety +77

      @@bigpapagorge9667 Oh I'm sorry did the VILLAIN do something bad? I didn't think he would...

  • @benjaminbierley2074
    @benjaminbierley2074 Před 2 lety +3175

    Something that strikes me about the "villains" in LoK is that with the exception of Unalaq her villains have more and more of a valid point over the supposed "good guys". Amon while wildly misguided in his approach did have a fair point about the imbalance between benders and non-benders, Zaheer while an anarchist had even more of a fair argument that the Earth Kingdom queen was corrupt and needed to be taken out, and finally, Kuvira had so much of a point in what she was doing that the writers had to MAKE her go full Hitler in order justify her being the villain at all...despite her actions being in response to the world government brazenly trying to install a puppet monarch over the nation she had spent years fighting to pull back from the brink, only to see them try to take it BACK into a monarchy which got them into the mess in the first place...and lets not even get started on her mentor abdicating responsibility in helping rebuild the nation, putting Kuvira in a moral position in which she felt she had to do SOMETHING

    • @ironcz6679
      @ironcz6679 Před 2 lety +199

      Unalaq too had some good points regarding imbalance between spirits and humans and regarding all mistakes of Wan, including closing the spirit portals, though he didn't necessarily need to team up with Vaatu to become Dark Avatar and throw world into 10k years of hell. He prove to be a good teacher to Korra by teaching her a technique of making evil spirit go away in peace, which she as an Avatar definitely had to know. I don't really know why is the 2nd season of LoK so much spat on, it kind of felt to me as more continuation than unexplained increase in numbers of airbenders that was used as establishing point for season 3 + 4 (like, Korra had to learn at some point to do stuff with spirits, as Aang was in contrast to her one of the more spiritual Avatars). Even though I agree that Zaheer and Kuvira kind of had some points as well (not speaking of Amon, because I think we can agree on S1 being good way to immediately continue the story with new Avatar that has to learn airbending)

    • @goldlight1322
      @goldlight1322 Před 2 lety +314

      Agreed. Korra’s villains are easily one the show’s strongpoints; they’re extremists and need to be stopped, but still force the heroes to stop and reevaluate their own world views.

    • @benjaminbierley2074
      @benjaminbierley2074 Před 2 lety +140

      @@goldlight1322 It really makes me wish the writing team didn't end up getting jerked around by the studio, it was clear they had solid ideas and stories, that ended up getting blunted by the studio constantly changing how many seasons they had...first, it was short, then they wanted more, then they wanted less back and forth which jacked up the stories all to hell cause it wasn't even a case of knowing if they would get renewed or not and more they didn't know if the rug would be pulled out from under them again with the studio moving the goal post.

    • @nscrclan5110
      @nscrclan5110 Před rokem +29

      @@benjaminbierley2074 for me the real reason Lok floped was cause Arron ehasz did not return to the Lok to write it

    • @carlocumino824
      @carlocumino824 Před rokem +34

      @@ironcz6679 Wan sealed beacause an opening portal could mean another battle against Vaatu. It was not a mistake from this point of view, especially beacuse spirits are not native of the human world

  • @ElCactus7567
    @ElCactus7567 Před 2 lety +2662

    Anyone else here want to see a mini series about the Red Lotus Gang? It would be a good way to flesh them out more and would be cool to see more of them in general.

    • @cosmicvoidtree
      @cosmicvoidtree Před 2 lety +68

      Was thinking the same thing. The thumbnail made me think of the idea. The four should get each get an episode of their own.

    • @Allie882
      @Allie882 Před 2 lety +37

      No really. I really want to see what would happen if kora was raised by the red lotus but then joins the white lotus

    • @broomhilder
      @broomhilder Před 2 lety +5

      Yes, yes, and more importantly, yes

    • @Haikal-fn5wb
      @Haikal-fn5wb Před 2 lety

      no

    • @TommiHonkonen
      @TommiHonkonen Před 2 lety +2

      Have you ever seen a spin off of spin off be good? Neither have I.

  • @---rg3jh
    @---rg3jh Před rokem +984

    That fight between Tenzin and The Red Lotus will always be always one of the best fights in the Avatar universe

    • @waffles8639
      @waffles8639 Před rokem +75

      tenzin rly is a strong airbender

    • @simonmarcu01
      @simonmarcu01 Před rokem +42

      I want a battle between Toph and Red Lotus. Toph is one of the most broken and op characters.

    • @lesiuiuur123
      @lesiuiuur123 Před 9 měsíci +17

      ​@@simonmarcu01ghazan kinda has levarage over toph, she can't really see lava and sand but again toph is stupidly powerful

    • @JimHarbaugh-eh1dj
      @JimHarbaugh-eh1dj Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@simonmarcu01 Zaheer with flight will beat every character in the original show except Aang in the avatar state. He'd have to poison Aang to beat him

    • @EmmaFriday02
      @EmmaFriday02 Před 4 měsíci +11

      If Tenzin alone can outmatch Zaheer how much more would Aang. Aang don't need the Avatar state to defeat all of them. P'LI however could be tough but he will still get the job done

  • @smittywerben1849
    @smittywerben1849 Před 2 lety +534

    Amon was the best villain in LoK. He introduced a different kind of fear in the series and was the perfect boogeyman for Korra since she values her bending ability a lot. Only reason Zahir was the one that gave her PTSD is that he was the closest to killing her.

    • @evgeniblanchard675
      @evgeniblanchard675 Před rokem +14

      Also the whole "i dominate you" vader style.

    • @Awesomesus._.
      @Awesomesus._. Před rokem +4

      Boogey man zombie Amon

    • @MomoAfterDark
      @MomoAfterDark Před rokem +23

      Lol no. Amon had no personality and is barely memorable.
      The mystery aspect gave it its power not the character itself.
      Zaheer is literally one of the best written characters in all of Avatar

    • @edsonururu5592
      @edsonururu5592 Před rokem +6

      I was also afraid of Amon

    • @Moccalocca100
      @Moccalocca100 Před rokem +6

      I think amon would win against zaheer. But zaheer was pretty cool too

  • @zane2540
    @zane2540 Před 2 lety +829

    This isn’t like history more like a recap of what happened
    I was hoping to like get actual history on the red lotus history such as their past how they came to be how they met how they how they discovered their unique bending how the girl lost her arms y’know lore

    • @tombstone4908
      @tombstone4908 Před 2 lety +41

      same for me

    • @Valiregirl82
      @Valiregirl82 Před 2 lety +129

      Well the thumbnail was super misleading

    • @ExelArts
      @ExelArts Před 2 lety +21

      Ya same the photo in the videos thumbnail made me think that.

    • @jonathan13co
      @jonathan13co Před 2 lety +2

      Idk if the title was changed, but currently it's "history of the red lotus" and I can't really understand how you inferred from this the contents will include the life stories of 4 specific members of the order and not, as literally described in the title, the origin and purpose of the order itself.
      Also, there's no detailed information of their private lives, especially not to such detail such as how ming hua lost her arms. They probably met through the organization and were among the high-raking members. (similarly to the white lotus).

    • @hinatashoyo1748
      @hinatashoyo1748 Před 2 lety +51

      The creators actually revealed that Ming-Hua was born without arms which is why she’s so good at using water as arms. Ming-Hua using waterbending as arms is like us picking up a pencil and writing.

  • @Snyphen356
    @Snyphen356 Před 2 lety +63

    Zaheer's attachment to P'Li Was his last earthly tether.

  • @xtentasticx
    @xtentasticx Před rokem +86

    If LOK had more time to write, the Red Lotus secret organization would have been an awesome overarching plot of the seasons. Would have been awesome seeing all the connections and foreshadows, each villain being a member of the red lotus until it came down to the final four who had only survived because they were imprisoned the entire time.

  • @goom3103
    @goom3103 Před rokem +423

    Imagine if korra was trained by the red lotus, strongest avatar ever I'd say

    • @hertzy2004
      @hertzy2004 Před rokem +65

      Actually someone wrote a fanfiction about it and its damn great!
      It's called 'The Original Nature of the Heart'. Too bad its discontinued...

    • @BigMoneyChao
      @BigMoneyChao Před rokem +29

      doubt it Avatar Kyoshi still stepping on shit

    • @wingandwang5634
      @wingandwang5634 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@hertzy2004where was the fanfic uploaded

    • @AmarZion
      @AmarZion Před 6 měsíci +2

      She already is

    • @AmarZion
      @AmarZion Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@BigMoneyChaono she isn’t she’s overrrated

  • @tofu_golem
    @tofu_golem Před 2 lety +441

    Zaheer is the greatest villain in the entire franchise, and one of the best villains in science fiction/fantasy. His ideology was wrong, but he really believed in it, and did not violate his own code just for plot convenience.

  • @dunderthunder9858
    @dunderthunder9858 Před rokem +141

    The idea of an evil airbender is already pretty cool and then it's made even cooler that he's still reverent enough to learn sacred rites

  • @skipr5811
    @skipr5811 Před 10 měsíci +35

    If they didn't have different beliefs, the Red Lotus would have been great friends and teachers for Korra. I think if they did manage to kidnap and raise her, they'd genuinely care for her like a daughter or little sister instead of just using her.

  • @CharlieBrown20XD6
    @CharlieBrown20XD6 Před rokem +38

    I heard a rumor that originally these guys were responsible for killing Sooka. Which means he died protecting Korra

    • @AvatarDiscussions
      @AvatarDiscussions  Před rokem +3

      Il have a video dropping this week on it

    • @mranima748
      @mranima748 Před 3 měsíci +1

      There is literally no evidence for that but ok.

    • @kittygirl0872
      @kittygirl0872 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@mranima748 it's a cool theory tho

  • @Nightengale90
    @Nightengale90 Před 2 lety +67

    The Red Lotus are my favorite Villains! I could watch or read a whole series about them! Ghazan is my second favorite Avatar character! Ming Hua was my second favorite of the group. Ghazan, Ming Hua, Zaheer and P'li were all so unique! I'd love to know WAY more about their lives before capture! The bits of info we got fascinated me and left me begging for more! I liked the hints of romance between Ghazan and Ming Hua. The love P'li and Zaheer shared was very interesting too!

    • @user-hi7rn1mn4y
      @user-hi7rn1mn4y Před měsícem

      I love how all the red lotus members were different benders. zaheer is an airbender, ghazan is an earthbender, ming-hua is a waterbender, and p’li is a firebender.

  • @CrazyDudeCopper
    @CrazyDudeCopper Před 2 lety +183

    Why did they look so cute when they were children ;-;

    • @Kanamo4781
      @Kanamo4781 Před 2 lety +29

      it's like looking at young german generations just before ww2 , they became nazi and killed a lot of people but where such cute children back in time, just too bad they had to grow with such influences...

    • @shinobustan6290
      @shinobustan6290 Před 2 lety +21

      Fr, ming hua is the cutest

    • @shinobustan6290
      @shinobustan6290 Před 2 lety

      @@ixya.3724 LOL

    • @GRIMLOCK07
      @GRIMLOCK07 Před 2 lety +10

      Alot of different species will look "So Cute" when they're kids.
      Heck, even a Baby Crocodile will look "So Cute".
      Still Doesn't mean it won't Kill & Eat You. Same Goes for Alot of Humans.
      Some of the Worst People in History were probably "So Cute" as kids.

  • @zekeshreffler8016
    @zekeshreffler8016 Před rokem +223

    I like how all of the villains are more interesting than the main character

    • @AvatarDiscussions
      @AvatarDiscussions  Před rokem +36

      In TLOK definitely!

    • @edtgv5884
      @edtgv5884 Před rokem +43

      Avatar The last Airbender main characters peak. Avatar legend of Korra villains peak

    • @shumanbeans
      @shumanbeans Před 10 měsíci +18

      Nah Korra was great too. The new "team avatar" however...

    • @briuiwnw7229nurjwnqoaakne
      @briuiwnw7229nurjwnqoaakne Před 10 měsíci +11

      @@shumanbeansngl those 3 felt like they were only in the show because the creators thought they needed side protaganists

    • @raeldri5867
      @raeldri5867 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I feel they had more liberty to do what they wanted with them, while the heroes they had to make them similar to the OG

  • @NaatClark
    @NaatClark Před rokem +48

    Amon and Zaheer were both right when you think about it. In a world with benders and non-benders there will always be a class difference. The Avatar knows how to bend energy to grant or remove bending from people but won't share the knowledge in the modern age leading to people either being born in the cool benders club or no and being stuck that way for life. Then you find out the spirit world being split from the material world and people(aside from the Avatar) losing the power to bend energy and having to be born benders was the choice of the first Avatar. Ending the cycle is the only course that allows the rest of humanity to move forward

    • @TheCreoleSon89
      @TheCreoleSon89 Před 11 měsíci +12

      To be fair, there were rich non-benders and poor benders. Seems most kings/rulers in the earth kingdom were non benders. Not so much in the fire nation lol 😂

    • @coolchrisable
      @coolchrisable Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@TheCreoleSon89 add on that non benders did have ways of dealing with benders like chi blocking and being alot more into training their bodies and being specialists like mai and tia lee

  • @NimsHell
    @NimsHell Před 10 měsíci +14

    I love the lok villians, but my favourite has gotta be ming hua mainly based on her design, the idea of her being a very powerful waterbender despite not having arms is very badass, its one of the reasons toph was my favourite in the last airbender, she was super powerful despite being blind and she turned what most would consider a weakness into an advantage, cool as fuck

  • @E4Pants92
    @E4Pants92 Před rokem +28

    Would actually love to see the fight with Zuko, Sokka, Tonraq, and Tenzin vs the Red Lotus gang!

    • @Hash_kw
      @Hash_kw Před 3 měsíci

      Sokka died in that fight

    • @mranima748
      @mranima748 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Hash_kw No he didnt

  • @akiwiidiot6821
    @akiwiidiot6821 Před 2 lety +264

    Ok but if zaheer could enter the spirit world why didn’t he consult iroh? I mean iroh was just as much a diplomat between spirits and humans as the avatar if not more.

    • @JacrepidYT
      @JacrepidYT Před 2 lety +29

      What good would seeing iroh someone he's against do though

    • @kittycatkyla2344
      @kittycatkyla2344 Před 2 lety +121

      Because Iroh was a white lotus and the whole point of the red lotus is that they were disgusted that the WL came out of hiding and became the Avatar's bodyguard. Consulting Iroh, although a good idea, would go against what the RL stood for.

    • @churrgee3675
      @churrgee3675 Před 2 lety

      Damn son , you really are an idiot 😂

    • @KaiserReb
      @KaiserReb Před 2 lety +14

      diplomat more than the avatar? where yall get this head canon from. He's not even above the most average air nomad in the spirits

    • @Rjlamar-yr3pt
      @Rjlamar-yr3pt Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@kittycatkyla2344 the red lotus has nothing in common with the white lotus and doesn't like the white lotus

  • @anotherdimension9116
    @anotherdimension9116 Před 2 lety +44

    I would have loved to see a what if of if the red lotus was successful in the kidnapping of little Korra. Just think of how different the world we know would be

  • @VisuallyMediocre
    @VisuallyMediocre Před rokem +25

    Fun part for Zaheer. You can quote him saying 'the red lotus would be your elemental masters'. Zaheer was going to be her master of Air. He didnt ass pull all the powers. He knew them from the start he just didnt have air bending just the forms and spirit powers. Korra had many faults but people who said this was an ass pull just didnt pay atention.

  • @astroman0500
    @astroman0500 Před 7 měsíci +8

    PArt of the reason why Zaheer was so perfectly done in the series was because od Henry Rollins' wonderful job as a voice actor. If I'm not mistaken, he's an anarchist in real life, and through his views and political activism he really did understood the character of Zaheer and managed to put all of his intensity and passion into the character. I'm so glad they chose Henry for that roll and that we got to experience such and amazing season in Korra.

  • @zuroku4159
    @zuroku4159 Před rokem +33

    Pov: you thought he was gonna tell us the past of Zaheer, P'li, Ghazan and Ming-yua.

  • @ashhabimran239
    @ashhabimran239 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Toph and Ming Hua, now that's 2 characters whose disability doesn't stop them from being complete badasses

  • @devontedamoi
    @devontedamoi Před 5 měsíci +4

    The thumbnail reawakens some emotions seeing the red lotus so young I remember my dayz watching this so much season 3 is my favorite

  • @brothaNblue
    @brothaNblue Před 2 lety +28

    Man I thought we were gonna get new information about the Red Lotus, not a recap of Season 3.

  • @rkbelmont1138
    @rkbelmont1138 Před 2 lety +85

    Korra series has many flaws. But the villains specially Amon and Red Lotus were awesome.

  • @TheArtInterviews
    @TheArtInterviews Před rokem +55

    To me, the Red Lotus is the coolest thing to ever happen in the Avatar world

  • @AnuUatu
    @AnuUatu Před 2 lety +22

    The order of the red lotus could actually be a way of introducing a subplot into Both ATLA and LOK that would be in my opinion immensely intriguing. I however heavily dislike the origins of the group simply bc it lacks depth, and it starts with Xia Bau. Ok so he’s a defect from the OWL but that’s it? Yet Zaheer had an obsession with Guru Lahima…but Xia Bau has a grove dedicated to him in the spirit world…hmmm here’s my theory and while it may be a little far fetched hear me out: Xia Bau isnt the true originator of the red lotus. Guru Lahima is. When wan visited the air nomads on the back of their flying turtle, they asked rava why she was without vatuu, something the air benders knew as they are in contact with the spirits more than any other nation. It could very well be possible that the air nomads didn’t totally agree with wan becoming the avatar and what’s more closing the spirit portals. This could have caused a splintering in the teachings of the air nation over time, while you have the air nation that established their loyalty to the avatar you can also have those in the air nation that would have seen it as hypocritical to their teaching to attach their loyalty, and it could have been that loyalty that caused them to FORGET how to fly…until LAHIMA, whose views and teachings weren’t widely accepted by the air nation bc of the anarchy it would intimately cause…in the air nation FIRST. Too many avatars and too many invents proceeding the 100 year war that give the Red lotus to form right under the nose of the white lotus. It’s just my honest opinion that the red lotus forming AFTER gives it little to feed off and completely contradicts itself when the leader of the group is the student of an airbending anarchist who existed AGES before this group was even formed. I truly hope that Guru Lahima gets his own story…but what would be crazy is if he somehow gets mention in the new Yang Chen novel.

  • @wankawanka3053
    @wankawanka3053 Před rokem +10

    These guys deserved two seasons

  • @mrsteamedbun9467
    @mrsteamedbun9467 Před 2 lety +97

    The air bending zaheer used on the earth queen should be called breathbending

    • @kkdias9924
      @kkdias9924 Před 2 lety +10

      i dont think so because its just one specific move not even a style, eg. Under water we have ice bending which can be used in different ways to make ice spears, ice shields, ice typhoons, blizzards, etc. Ice bending is a sub style under water bending, whereas in this situation all you can do is asphyxiate a person. There is an imbalance with air as it is potrayed as the weakest of the 4 without any real offensive abilities or even sub bending. Air has only flying and astral projection which is flying as a ghost. and fartbending, which is kind of a joke. I hope air in the future is shown with a little more power as so far its shown that air ios only used in defensive or evasive maneuvers aka to run away, which is kinda pathetic.

    • @zonastarwars4397
      @zonastarwars4397 Před 2 lety

      I mean, that was more air bending than anything else. All the other air benders just bend wind.

    • @tylermech66
      @tylermech66 Před 2 lety +5

      @@kkdias9924 It sort of speaks to how the air nomads developed, due to their lack of easily lethal moves by single people.
      while yes, air can be an incredibly devastating element, as is shown with literally any form of storm, the power needed to create such devastation is usually too much for a single person to be reasonably expected to do, bar the avatar.
      So it is either adopt a more pacifistic society to evade rather than attack, or really double down on group tactics to work together in creating massive storms.
      there is a reason they chose air for the pacifistic monk civilization.

    • @kkdias9924
      @kkdias9924 Před 2 lety +1

      @@tylermech66 I agree that kinda sucks, even as you mention a storm of wind would still not be as lethal as say a storm of fire, sharp ice crystals, water typhoon, lightning storms, or sand storms, would be nice if they air had some other type of bending added to it like light/shadow bending, or kinetic bending- kinda like telekinesis to control all objects themselves rather than controlling an element eg.air, earth to move an object from one point in space to another, or Dimension bending, creating portals by sending part or your whole body to other dimension which can be used to defend yourself against any attack essentially kinda like obito from naruto, etc. would be kinda cool.

    • @justt1984
      @justt1984 Před rokem

      That’s lame asl bruh

  • @xrather7735
    @xrather7735 Před 2 lety +49

    Zehir is my favorite caracter of all the "bad guys". I think he could be a really good/helpfull person and i really understand his motivations! Its only really unfortunately he made a bad choise by trying to kill all te leaders...

    • @icesoul17z
      @icesoul17z Před 2 lety +7

      Yeah I think the original goal of raising the avatar and reversing the actions on Won would have been a better plan. Hell, even trying to contact and convince/teach Korra could have gone more in their favor.

    • @ErutaniaRose
      @ErutaniaRose Před 2 lety +5

      Ya. Basically, great ideas ideologically and the want to help the general population--but the ways in which he went about doing that were...not great.

    • @bluecoil8356
      @bluecoil8356 Před rokem

      Dude, Zehir is a homm 5 protagonist, this one is called Zaheer :)

  • @bjorn19
    @bjorn19 Před 9 měsíci +24

    I think the reason why the Red Lotus didn't kill Tenzin when they had him surrounded was because Zaheer genuinely respected him.

    • @isaiahdean424
      @isaiahdean424 Před 6 měsíci +8

      that and Zaheer had a genuine love for the airbenders and wouldn't want to off a master

    • @JimHarbaugh-eh1dj
      @JimHarbaugh-eh1dj Před 6 měsíci +9

      No, it was because he could use him as leverage to get Korra to sacrifice herself

  • @bigj1905
    @bigj1905 Před rokem +12

    I personally never understood why they decided to kill The Avatar completely.
    Doing so wouldn’t cause chaos, instead, it probably would’ve united the world against them and their ideals.
    I think it would’ve simply been better if they stuck to their original and plan and just killed Korra, then kidnapped the next reincarnation of the Avatar.

    • @NorthForkFisherman
      @NorthForkFisherman Před rokem +7

      The whole point was to drive out Raava so it could re-unite with Vaatu, thereby re-establishing the actual balance that existed before Wan interfered with creation. To do that, they had to kill her in the Avatar state.

  • @iamabread9614
    @iamabread9614 Před 2 lety +7

    Man Zaheer was already ahead of the tall queens gang. Gotta respect him for that.

  • @chidosan2639
    @chidosan2639 Před 2 lety +13

    I feel like zaheer was the best villain in the series because the series respected his character, he had his point of view, beliefs, skills and never seemed to be out of character, even if he's a villain, it's never really treated like the kind of villain that you MUST despise or love, it manages to make him, somehow, respectable
    and with respectable I dont mean he shouldn't be in prison, I mean that you cant really critique that much his beliefs

  • @gregjones9901
    @gregjones9901 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Zaheer had an amazing design when he was locked up with the rags and long hair. I'm thinking the real reason they penned in the shaving was so they didn't have to animate all that hair in those fights haha

  • @royalobasi1938
    @royalobasi1938 Před rokem +21

    Korra was at her best in S3,
    from what we've seen in S1 she learned how to airbend, ok,
    S2 she was a giant spiritual battle suit, okay,
    S4 she was getting her ass kicked by kuvira but it worked out in the end, okay,
    Although she almost got finished by zaheer, she made real difficult and it was a close fight, she lost her edge cuz she lost her cool giving zaheer an opening to almost get the job done.
    S3 Korra was so scary, even Korra was traumatized, Damn

  • @Jack-dn2xm
    @Jack-dn2xm Před 2 lety +6

    I love heart this entire video is just information we already know from the show and that he didn’t add any new information from comics and stuff

    • @AvatarDiscussions
      @AvatarDiscussions  Před 2 lety +1

      I’ll make a part 2. It’s still informational for people who haven’t watched the show or didn’t fully understand it after watching

    • @Jack-dn2xm
      @Jack-dn2xm Před 2 lety +2

      @@AvatarDiscussions hey no I didn’t say that I’m just saying for people who did watch it it’s not very useful might be useful if you didn’t understand it but if you didn’t watch it why would you watch this video and get spoilers

  • @rischio7678
    @rischio7678 Před 3 měsíci +3

    The red lotus deserve its own series.

  • @janvidilmika3155
    @janvidilmika3155 Před 28 dny

    The thumbnail of this video is so adorable
    Especially ming hua ,she looks so precious

  • @laurenbonner2393
    @laurenbonner2393 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Honestly, I think the Red Lotus were the best LoK villains because they were enjoyable in the same way Ozai's Angels were in the original series: they felt human at some points.

  • @zinc8002
    @zinc8002 Před 2 lety +130

    they weren’t such awful ideas they just took it too far. anarchy doesn’t mean complete and absolute every-person-for-themselves and you can free the spirit world without freeing vaatu.

    • @dairebeare7839
      @dairebeare7839 Před 2 lety +8

      They had to partially retcon s2, it’s definitely the weakest aspect of the Red lotus story, it’s hard to imagine anyone having freedom with vaatu on the loose.

    • @DamienTheGoat
      @DamienTheGoat Před 2 lety +9

      @@dairebeare7839 well I think they saw it as more of true balance. Killing korra would probably have raava form from vaatu eventually, even if it would take a long time. Although we see from how jinora helps raava reform faster, they could have done the same, having both spirits exist again.
      Then unalauq fucked up that plan, and both him and vaatu died. If they killed korra, both spirits would both be gone and couldn't form from each other, which either means 2 things.
      1. Both spirits could reform immediately after, with equal power
      Or
      2. Neither of them reform, which is still balance.

    • @jonathan13co
      @jonathan13co Před 2 lety +2

      Zaheer never preached for "every-person-for-themeslves". He preached for anarchy, meaning the abolishment of all and any governing authorities. And they wanted to free Vaatu in order to restore the balance which was broken by Wan. By locking vaatu for eternity, he tipped the scales in favour for raava, which is good for the physical world, but nonetheless breaks the scale.

    • @Chorismos
      @Chorismos Před rokem

      Aren't the airbenders Anarchists?

    • @Chorismos
      @Chorismos Před rokem +1

      ​@@jonathan13co God I hate Vaatu. I wish it focused on the more Yin and Yang concept rather than Good and Evil.

  • @myaps1859
    @myaps1859 Před 2 lety +6

    Amon still my fav antagonist in TLoK

  • @yonipoabaty7456
    @yonipoabaty7456 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Best season of the show.😍 those characters were so cool. 🤩Funny thing is the combustion bending which is at the same time so powerful and so weak😅

  • @kagekun1198
    @kagekun1198 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Wow that thumbnail... I never thought I'd be blessed to see a cute Ming-Hua, but here we are!

  • @ethanchapman969
    @ethanchapman969 Před 3 měsíci

    The pan away during Tenzin’s beat down conveyed more brutality than any actual animation could have ever done. So well done by the story board

  • @hachi666roku
    @hachi666roku Před 3 měsíci +1

    I’m down to see the “pre lotus kids” prequel to LOK - they all have a rough time, find each other, be there for each other and after a tragic loss of the 5th friend to an unjust ruler, Zaheer changes. After the mourning of their friend, become the Red Lotus.
    Because as radical as the Red Lotus, no one showed cowardice, they died facing their foes, there was no real terrorism or lying. Also that Thumbnail is very wholesome and got my interest

  • @nicholaslawrence6926
    @nicholaslawrence6926 Před 2 lety +10

    Where did you get the thumbnail picture of the Red Lotus masters as teenagers?

  • @jessemeyer8036
    @jessemeyer8036 Před 2 lety +7

    Good video, lots of info, but I was hoping for more than a recap of korra season 3

  • @mojyoqueen350
    @mojyoqueen350 Před měsícem

    If it wasn't for the conflict, Ghazan and Bolin would be absolute besties! They are an underrated duo and I'd love to see more of their interactions.

  • @ronjaravenbell9663
    @ronjaravenbell9663 Před 2 lety +7

    Red lotus will always be my favorite villans in legend of korra. All members are strong and Zaheers point of view wasent completly wrong. Zaheer is a godd airbender and very spiritual he helpt korra in season 4. Ming hua is a very intressting waterbender she dont let her disability get in the way and she is very creative with her waterarms. Gazhan is a poverfull lavabender who gave uss a intressting presentation on how lavabending can be used. Pli is a comboster women who have a very intressting backstory and a very intresting love story with zaheer.

  • @jfsimmonsiii
    @jfsimmonsiii Před 6 měsíci +1

    Zaheer was the best avatar villain in the entire universe. He was like the Thanos of the avatar universe in that we wasn’t just trying to be more powerful or to rule everything, but just to make the tough choice to do what he sees as the right thing, even if the right thing is horrible.
    Plus he’s a highly skilled, intelligent, well educated, well spoken strategist.. a joy to watch on screen.

  • @Danosauruscrecks
    @Danosauruscrecks Před 2 lety +29

    The red lotus were the best written villains in the series.

    • @maurymalkovich8117
      @maurymalkovich8117 Před 2 lety +4

      Book 3 of Korra is worth getting through book 2 of Korra and that’s saying... a looooot

  • @liamgreen2659
    @liamgreen2659 Před 2 lety +10

    Season 3 is the only season of LOK I enjoyed

  • @samsaflik
    @samsaflik Před rokem +2

    This is good. The pace of speech by Narator is perfect. Voice is good. Unlike most pathetic CZcamsrs with bad voice and intonation. Editing is also very good. Keep up the amazing work.

  • @kaonemosaditeisho
    @kaonemosaditeisho Před 2 lety +13

    I thought when you said the history I thought you would’ve been speaking about them before the events of Korra

  • @thecasul1524
    @thecasul1524 Před rokem +1

    That thumbnail felt like watching kid Ozai in that picture all over again.

  • @robertschmidt4239
    @robertschmidt4239 Před 2 měsíci

    I loved Su this season because up to this point the good guys never really fought to kill. But then we met Su and literally fought to kill in every battle she was in, she killed like 5 people that season.

  • @sophiaclarke2325
    @sophiaclarke2325 Před 2 lety +16

    I never knew Pali Menghua and Gazan died but after watching this it makes sense.

    • @matejamicic3037
      @matejamicic3037 Před 2 lety +3

      its p'li ming hua and ghazan

    • @gooneygoogoo6316
      @gooneygoogoo6316 Před 2 lety +5

      Did you not watch Book III: Change??
      Because if you did, how did you not come to that realization of their deaths??

    • @sophiaclarke2325
      @sophiaclarke2325 Před 2 lety

      @@gooneygoogoo6316 I did..but sometimes my brain is not working properly but It truly makes sense after i watched it. Every puzzle in my brain connected.

    • @mag-narwhal
      @mag-narwhal Před 2 lety

      @@gooneygoogoo6316 ikr p'li blew her head off

  • @cozmicrahop9415
    @cozmicrahop9415 Před rokem +5

    Someone please give zaheer his air bender tattoos please....what a master !!

  • @chrisshorten4406
    @chrisshorten4406 Před 2 lety +4

    Where'd that picture in the thumbnail come from? It's really good!

  • @masaisassi3730
    @masaisassi3730 Před rokem +5

    The Legend of Korra villains are awesome. Don’t understand why use them all for 1 avatar. Amon, and Zaheer could easily have at-least 3 seasons for their own. I think they could’ve lasted more.

  • @CDPW
    @CDPW Před 2 měsíci +1

    No arms lady was terrifying.

  • @immagical7036
    @immagical7036 Před 3 měsíci

    I’d love to see some sort of spin off comic or something about the Red Lotus main villain’s adventures and backstories when they were younger!!

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Před 2 lety +6

    The Red Lotus I think are the most intriguing opponents the Avatar ever faced. But not quite my favorite. No. That honor belongs to Fire Lord Ozai. Mark Hamill voiced him to perfection.

  • @revotempo2082
    @revotempo2082 Před 2 lety +29

    No lie they look so chill in the thumbnail. Even if they did pass away, I wanted to know if the had any successors like siblings or junior students. I remember when Bolin was a joking around with the 2 red lotus members and 1 of his guesses was that the lava dude was raised by his sister. It'd be interesting if he was and that she was a member too. I'd love to see more lava bending and how it has advanced with time. Maybe there is a PYROCLASTIC FLOW bender, that would be so OP. It would literally take multiple skilled metal benders just to take out one. Cause the other elements can't actually combat it...well at least not individually.

    • @-rockmusiclover-
      @-rockmusiclover- Před rokem +1

      I would like to see an earth bender bend wood and plants

    • @revotempo2082
      @revotempo2082 Před rokem +2

      @@-rockmusiclover- swamp benders exists bro they bend plants by manipulating the water in them. It's like blood bending for plants. Though to be a full on wood bender you'd need to have water and earth bending lineage. Like how all lava benders have fire and earth bending parents like Bolin. Even in Naruto you need to have both chakra natures in order to do wood style.

    • @-rockmusiclover-
      @-rockmusiclover- Před rokem +1

      @@revotempo2082 I meant like earthbenders being swampbenders as plants come from the ground so I thought about if they could bend plants, same thing with wood as it comes from trees which also come from the ground.

    • @elleicarjayramilo
      @elleicarjayramilo Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@-rockmusiclover-Comes from the ground ≠ Earth

    • @-rockmusiclover-
      @-rockmusiclover- Před 7 měsíci

      @@elleicarjayramilo Bro, nine months later, lmao, you're a bit late to the party

  • @lieutenantkhaos
    @lieutenantkhaos Před 9 měsíci +2

    I had a cool theory, imagine if Zaheer returned in the Earth avatar series, but in the Spirit world, and he taught the avatar his knowledge of airbending. Maybe the avatar would travel to Laghimas Peak and meditate into the spirit world in order to contact him.

  • @bernardberari4250
    @bernardberari4250 Před rokem +12

    I really wish they fleshed out the anarchist ideology more fairly. With all villains, it kind of seemed like they became caricatures of their original ideologies, just so the viewer is blatantly aware that they are the bad guy.

  • @khudryash
    @khudryash Před rokem +2

    But fr. As for me, I would really want to see series about avatar raised by Red lotus. Just imagine. Not avatar saving the world, but the world tries to save avatar as a concept

  • @Tirnadi
    @Tirnadi Před 2 lety +11

    And another underrated channel

  • @cyberdevil657
    @cyberdevil657 Před rokem

    Thanks for explaining basically the last season...
    I expected way more...

  • @wyvern723
    @wyvern723 Před 2 lety +1

    The fight between Zahir and Korra and the air benders is pretty sweet.

  • @Jake-ox2rd
    @Jake-ox2rd Před 5 měsíci +1

    I liked the red lotus and would love to see them come back. I also really liked the Dai Li.

  • @hohrhamikaiolaf464
    @hohrhamikaiolaf464 Před 2 lety +6

    These guys where the anti team avatar, and did the job better than the actual anti avatar.

  • @HellishSpoon
    @HellishSpoon Před 3 měsíci

    Wow, what a cute thumbnail. i hope the guys on it don't end up dying horribly :)

  • @davidcase8635
    @davidcase8635 Před rokem +1

    "Everyone thinks they're the Hero of their own story."
    - Handsome Jack from Borderlands 2.

  • @Rain2G
    @Rain2G Před rokem +10

    "After failing to capture 5 year old Korra."
    Sounds like such a powerful team.

    • @-rockmusiclover-
      @-rockmusiclover- Před rokem +4

      well 4 very powerful warriors had to come to stop them so it's not like Korra defeated them when she was 5

    • @danizi4527
      @danizi4527 Před rokem +2

      Btw brother zahir without air bending yet

  • @Murza_X
    @Murza_X Před rokem

    Nah man, that thumbnail is too too wholesome😂😂

  • @rag1242
    @rag1242 Před rokem +1

    Ming hua is adorable in the thumbnail

  • @joelhawcroft-standell6738
    @joelhawcroft-standell6738 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Imagine if red lotus trianed korra... imagine a combustion bending avatar...imagine combustion bending while in avatar state

  • @BETMARKonTube
    @BETMARKonTube Před 5 měsíci +2

    Yes... never been a fan of the convenient plot where someone who spent 13 years in a small cage, randomly wins the _Airbending Lottery_ and instantly become so skilled to outmatch people who trained their Bending for years.

    • @mranima748
      @mranima748 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Kai got Airbending and was very skilled at it, Bumi got Airbending and had an airbender father, who gets Airbending isn’t random. Zaheer is the closest you can get to an airbender without being one

  • @bestmonkefren
    @bestmonkefren Před rokem +3

    “Tonrack” 💀

  • @DamienTheGoat
    @DamienTheGoat Před rokem +1

    Pretty impressive that Ming Hua can drive

  • @grovercleavland2698
    @grovercleavland2698 Před 2 měsíci

    I would love to see a spinoff series with the red lotus as the protagonists.

  • @ezharlawson
    @ezharlawson Před 9 měsíci +1

    If kora opened the bridge for spirits to come back to the world so what else does the red lotus want to happen?

  • @simonflores1047
    @simonflores1047 Před 6 měsíci +1

    What value did Zaheer bring to the red lotus prior to getting air bending…? I know he saved P’li, but first of all *HOW* and second of all, what else could he have done without any special abilities???

  • @magnusthevaliant
    @magnusthevaliant Před rokem +1

    When you need someone to fix your sink you call a plumber, when you need your electricity you call an electrician
    AND WHEN YOU NEED TO OVERTHROW A BRUTAL TYRANT YOU CALL AN ANARCHIST!!!

  • @wi2673
    @wi2673 Před 2 lety +1

    ghazan: ''guess he doesnt need a ride"

  • @MsBasiic
    @MsBasiic Před rokem

    Beautiful story!

  • @user-hj6ux6fp5f
    @user-hj6ux6fp5f Před rokem +2

    I wish to see the red lotus in the next series

  • @theshadowsurferyt
    @theshadowsurferyt Před měsícem

    1:32 the perfect dap up 🔥 🔥

  • @graciousmkanjumwa958
    @graciousmkanjumwa958 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I would like to see zaheer vs ghazan and pli 's mingua

  • @rachidnieva8527
    @rachidnieva8527 Před 2 lety +4

    Zaheer and fire lord ozai are the best antagonist

  • @guiltyspark7308
    @guiltyspark7308 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The Red Lotus are like the Akatsuki in Naruto, they’re both terrorist group that hunt for the Avatar (for the Akatsuki it’s Jinchuriki or tailed beast), they both believe in peace in a different way, and they both have terrifying powers (though I think the Red Lotus are less terrifying then let’s say Hidan and Kakuzu who are part of the Akatsuki)

  • @dellebelphine-moralez3510

    I just realized that these guys are basically counterparts to Team Avatar

  • @RandomMimikyu
    @RandomMimikyu Před 6 měsíci

    i hope we find out more about the red lotus in the earth avatar show

  • @sirvincerd9346
    @sirvincerd9346 Před 3 měsíci

    Bro...the thumbnail really wants me to see a young red lotus spinoff or something.

  • @markjasondavid2547
    @markjasondavid2547 Před 2 lety +2

    Imagine them as the avatar gang thejr team so strong and interesting