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2014 Chevy Camaro Z/28 Hot Lap! - 2014 Best Driver's Car Contender

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  • čas přidán 22. 09. 2014
  • Pro driver Randy Pobst hot laps the 2014 Chevy Camaro Z/28 around Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca for Motor Trend's 2014 Best Driver's Car Powered by Mobil 1 ( / officialmobil1 .
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Komentáře • 868

  • @anotherone10
    @anotherone10 Před 10 lety +198

    1. Nissan Nismo GT-R - 1:35.51
    2. Porsche 911 Turbo S - 1:35.62
    3. Chevy Camaro Z/28 - 1:37.82
    4. BMW M4 - 1:39.69
    5. Jaguar F-Type R Coupé - 1:42.01
    6. Alfa Romeo 4C - 1:43.78
    7. BMW i8 - 1:44.29
    8. Subaru WRX STI - 1:47.16
    9. Volkswagen GTI - 1:50.11
    10. Ford Fiesta ST - 1:51.25
    Motortrend, put all the lap times at the end of the video or in the description!

  • @jracklye
    @jracklye Před 10 lety +26

    Randy Pobst has the best job in the world.

  • @weedmastersr
    @weedmastersr Před 10 lety +35

    A mighty impressive result! Considering that the Z28 has less HP, more weight, manual transmission and RWD, only two seconds slower than the Porsche ( and 2 faster than the BMW) is very impressive.

    • @arbiter1
      @arbiter1 Před 10 lety +1

      I think engine in porsche even being a smaller liter size i think weighs MORE then z28's engine. Also porsche needs dual turbo chargers to make most its HP.

    • @weedmastersr
      @weedmastersr Před 10 lety +3

      ***** Hahah, I like your comment, it contains some truth and it's funny. In the northern American states it's the same. People just like a lot of comfort and are lazy.

    • @weedmastersr
      @weedmastersr Před 10 lety +3

      ***** Oh please! The tire argument again.

    • @isaacnkrumah2798
      @isaacnkrumah2798 Před 10 lety +3

      Protector of the Republic I know right. That's the best argument they always come up with. Sticky tires this and sticky tires that. Its like the mustang guys complained that give the mustang IRS and... but are now complaining that te mustang gt weighs about as much as a regular camaro. If these guys get te same tires and performance suffers they will whine that the tires offset the inertia and balance, messing with the axle drive shafts and transmissions. That is what lets you know these are kids on the other side because kids always make excuses and dont accept reality like adults!

    • @weedmastersr
      @weedmastersr Před 10 lety +2

      Isaac Nkrumah I know, it's like arguing like six year olds. I didn't even want to stir an argument with my comment. I just wanted to say that it's an impressive result for the Camaro. So yeah, I couldn't agree more with what you said.

  • @VQSeries
    @VQSeries Před 10 lety +8

    Kudos to the camera crew - excellent variety of camera angles... Was also cool to watch Randy Pobsts shifting and foot work with upshifts and rev-matched downshifts ;-)

  • @denhouse1
    @denhouse1 Před 10 lety +2

    So many channels seem to think that music is the best filler for the parts where there is no one talking.....you guys are not doing that and I love it. Let us hear what the car is doing and the telemetry is all the better. Awesome!!! Can't wait for the winner and perhaps a 2015 Mustang GT!!

    • @HemiMike
      @HemiMike Před 10 lety

      The Mustang is not in this year competition...next year!

  • @abrahamgsolis
    @abrahamgsolis Před 10 lety +2

    I'm liking the foot-work shots. good job.

  • @EgoTheSavage
    @EgoTheSavage Před 10 lety +5

    Current Standing lap times in order of best time.
    2014 Porsche 911 Turbo 1:35.62
    2014 Chevy Camaro Z/28 1:37.82
    2015 BMW M4 1:39.69
    2015 Alfa Romeo 4C 1:43.78
    2015 Subaru WRX STI 1:47.16
    2015 Volkswagen GTI 1:50.11

  • @lotterynj
    @lotterynj Před 10 lety +27

    That's how you heel toe people!

    • @CadillaccJ
      @CadillaccJ Před 10 lety +1

      Germans wouldn't know anything about that!

    • @freibier
      @freibier Před 10 lety +13

      Jonathan Alerte Tell that to Walter Röhrl.

  • @Maxximtl
    @Maxximtl Před 10 lety +2

    Great editing on these videos. Those cuts to the heel/toe downshifts were great!

  • @jdeverett9509
    @jdeverett9509 Před 9 lety +5

    We are living in unprecedented times for automobiles. Enjoy and respect their unique capabilities instead of fighting it out on the internet. Z28 or GTR? If someone wants to park either one in my driveway and toss me the keys that'd be just fine by me. Also, layoff the country bashing. No need to add "Japanese" or "American" to every negative comment. If you wouldn't talk that way face to face, why do so from a keyboard? Relax. Life is way too short.

    • @DanielD165
      @DanielD165 Před 9 lety

      Preach it brother. Very well said.

  • @mbukukanyau
    @mbukukanyau Před 10 lety +7

    This car, is just a shot across the bow of other sports cars manufacturers. Its based on a Holden Chassis that is close now to 10 years old, the Alpha Cadillac's and the upcoming Camaro based on the ATS Chassis are at least 900 lbs lighter.
    Hopefully, GM makes another high revving hand built high displacement motor like this one. Man this Engine can sing.

    • @Flabernat
      @Flabernat Před 10 lety +4

      Agreed, the LS7 is by far my favorite V8, and one of my all time favorite motors!

  • @GT-gt4bf
    @GT-gt4bf Před 10 lety +8

    Z/28 baby!

  • @SIRICKO
    @SIRICKO Před 10 lety +53

    75k for this bahahahah lmfao give me A fucking brake.

    • @weedmastersr
      @weedmastersr Před 10 lety +98

      GTFO! The M4 is more expensive and 2 seconds slower.

    • @11jet1331
      @11jet1331 Před 10 lety +147

      Disc or drum? 6 piston or 4 piston? What size rotors? Brembo or EBC? And it's usually odd if someone wants to buy a single brake. Can I just confirm the order before we ship it?

    • @bradleyblackster
      @bradleyblackster Před 10 lety +6

      Protector of the Republic And atill a better DRIVER'S car lol

    • @SiddharthaTripathy2512
      @SiddharthaTripathy2512 Před 10 lety +43

      I have never liked Muscle Cars because of their track abilities. However, I am impressed with the Z28. And it gives that kind of a performance for a fraction of the price of a Porsche 911 Carrera S. I know that 2 seconds can mean a lot on the track, but seriously, how many of us are track drivers?

    • @gibbonenhancements
      @gibbonenhancements Před 10 lety +4

      Cantenkerous Tim gold

  • @jeebus2121
    @jeebus2121 Před 10 lety +1

    I drove a shuttle van in '99 during college; it had essentially the same radio display as in this 2014 Chevrolet. One would expect some advancement over 15 years.

  • @adrinamarae5400
    @adrinamarae5400 Před 10 lety +3

    0:51 Randy Pobst killing it as usual.

  • @cdonahuecd
    @cdonahuecd Před 10 lety

    Love the shot of the foot work on the down shifts. I wish mine were that consistent!

  • @tesqCA
    @tesqCA Před 10 lety +1

    That heel-toe shift action at 1:34 tho...

  • @Gluhorse
    @Gluhorse Před 10 lety

    Holy smokes I love the sound of that ls7. Kick ass heel-toe camera too, very cool to see a professional at work. Time to go practice

  • @nathanbarrett6692
    @nathanbarrett6692 Před 10 lety

    Get it Randy. Pretty fun seeing his heel toe action. Seemed like a lot of work.

  • @MistrMcGill
    @MistrMcGill Před 10 lety +1

    What badass driving! He really showed what the car was capable of, this Camaro might win it...we'll see!

  • @dekesone1
    @dekesone1 Před 10 lety +1

    I don't usually post comments, but as a gear-head I just can't understand why there's so much anger at a great car. It's a focused track machine with a phenomenal engine, a superb suspension tune, and exotic brakes. No one cares if you're neighbor's uncle has a faster BMthis or Porschthat, just appreciate a purpose built weapon.

  • @DaLeadBull
    @DaLeadBull Před 10 lety

    Clean clean lap Mr. Pobst!

  • @INFsleeper
    @INFsleeper Před 10 lety +11

    "7 litres to produce only 505HP", haha atleast this beast V8 won't break on you any time soon :) I work at a car shop and I can tell you chevy v8's are solid as fuck!

    • @jreyman
      @jreyman Před 10 lety +5

      Solidly reliable, indeed. Not to mention overlooking the forced-air induction vs naturally aspirated difference, where the HP is concerned.

    • @MrNicholg
      @MrNicholg Před 10 lety

      jreyman Solidly reliable has never been said in relation to anything Camaro or GM pushrod V8. Dreaming.

    • @berniecollins9009
      @berniecollins9009 Před 10 lety +1

      that american v8 torque is unmatched..

    • @arbiter1
      @arbiter1 Před 10 lety

      Yea that funny how that is all they got to say, when it doesn't need a super charger or turbo to make that hp where all the tiny engines in like bmw or gtr need turbo's to make the same power. If i remember right some those v6's and straight 6's even weigh MORE then this 7 liter figure that one out? LS motors are known to be very tough engines and can take a bit of power.

    • @HemiMike
      @HemiMike Před 10 lety +1

      MrNicholg You're off the wagon!. I Have/had 3x Pushrod GM motor this past 15 years. None of them broke down but everything else did. lol

  • @ligamentpull1
    @ligamentpull1 Před 10 lety +2

    I hear and read all this mocking about a $75,000 Z28. Give credit where credit is due. This is an iconic American Muscle car purposely built for the track. The engineering is brilliant along with an awesome engine sound. Professional drivers had nothing but great reviews on their driving experience. At less than half the price of the almighty 911 Turbo, the track numbers are extremely close. Great job Chevrolet!

  • @ScrewDrvr
    @ScrewDrvr Před 10 lety +2

    1 BILLION CAMERA ANGLES SWITCHED EVERY 2 SECONDS.

  • @HemiMike
    @HemiMike Před 10 lety +3

    Get this people: The 2014 Camaro Z/28 is The Fastest naturally aspirated rear-wheel drive 4 passenger Car at Laguna Seca.

    • @HemiMike
      @HemiMike Před 10 lety

      Mike Camaro AND THE 2014 MT Best Driver's car! kudos to TeamChevy

  • @senorgato70
    @senorgato70 Před 10 lety

    This thing is a friggin' beast.

  • @utubedano
    @utubedano Před 10 lety +1

    God this car is such a beauty!

  • @asb_447
    @asb_447 Před 10 lety +2

    Randy can probably lap that track blind folded by now :D

  • @AnontheGOAT
    @AnontheGOAT Před 10 lety

    Epic footwork Randy!

  • @thelonelydirector
    @thelonelydirector Před 10 lety

    Ok, that heel-toe action was flippin' sweet!

  • @nikb6528
    @nikb6528 Před 10 lety

    Some amazing footwork right there

  • @AnthonyLosurdo
    @AnthonyLosurdo Před 10 lety

    I like how the camera went to a view of him heel-toe downshifting every time he needed to downshift lol.

  • @SpyderRios
    @SpyderRios Před 9 lety

    Hey Motortrend when the GT350R comes out I would like to request a head to head between the GT350r and the Z28 please. Also trow a regular gt350 track pack in the mix as well.

  • @Spencer-ty4sl
    @Spencer-ty4sl Před 10 lety +7

    always thought that muscle cars are never good on the track

  • @otakujhp
    @otakujhp Před 10 lety

    Wonderful car.

  • @MrNicholg
    @MrNicholg Před 10 lety

    I wish this showed more of what Randy was doing at the wheel because I've never seen a Chevy look that smooth at the limit like that. This thing has to be a handful, if only by what the numbers indicate.

  • @MistrMcGill
    @MistrMcGill Před 10 lety +2

    Camaro ftw! (for the win). With the price, lap times, and basically a race car from the factory, it's already set up to run. Take care!

  • @talonfast25
    @talonfast25 Před 10 lety

    Test drive one and you will have a big smile in your face. The sound is amazing, the shifter is perfect, the throttle response is immediate, no lag like turbo cars.

  • @tat2titan
    @tat2titan Před 9 lety

    Randy is a Great Driver!!!

  • @Jfromes1
    @Jfromes1 Před 10 lety

    Love the footwork!

  • @tat2titan
    @tat2titan Před 9 lety

    Sounds MEAN!!!
    What are the 3 small round things in the center of the steering wheel, sensors???

  • @grantgrant7031
    @grantgrant7031 Před 10 lety

    That driver is good!! And go camaro go!!

  • @cesarchacon426
    @cesarchacon426 Před 10 lety

    That heel and toe... Awesome

  • @INFsleeper
    @INFsleeper Před 10 lety

    Full black, my dream car :)

  • @voilemontagne
    @voilemontagne Před 10 lety

    sooooo fast for this money! the sound is so much better than the porsche turbo or the nissan... this car has a real personality it's awesome truly!

  • @authenticmax6350
    @authenticmax6350 Před 9 lety

    All the cars I have driver till now have been manual transmission. I just wanted to know how the paddle shifters work, like what type of difference there is in feeling while upshifting and downshifting... Like is there any possibility of using half clutch , if there is a clutch ?

  • @talonfast25
    @talonfast25 Před 10 lety +1

    The Z28 is the best track car of the bunch. It's meant for the track, it can do laps all day unlike the others.

  • @stigmsr1
    @stigmsr1 Před 10 lety +7

    Porsche couldn't supply at GT3 maybe, I think they wanted to prove with stickier tires the Turbo S could be faster than the Z28

    • @lotterynj
      @lotterynj Před 10 lety

      Lol.....yupper. Porsche has been saying this for years now.

    • @MrKeyboardCommando
      @MrKeyboardCommando Před 10 lety +10

      Maybe all the GT3's were on fire ?

    • @IsiahHD
      @IsiahHD Před 10 lety +11

      The Porsche weights 300 pounds less and has more horsepower and torque. That's why it was faster.

    • @MrKeyboardCommando
      @MrKeyboardCommando Před 10 lety +5

      idh0530 Don't forget better handling and cornering.

    • @lotterynj
      @lotterynj Před 10 lety +4

      MrKeyboardCommando Lol...but no. Porsche recalled all that were made pulled the engines. Replaced all the wiring harnesses, tuned them and gave them back. There hard to come by. Go to a dealer you'll see.

  • @FavoriteScenes5999
    @FavoriteScenes5999 Před 10 lety

    amazing footwork

  • @SirCentex
    @SirCentex Před 10 lety

    This is the winner

  • @Flabernat
    @Flabernat Před 10 lety +2

    Hmmm, I honestly expected it to be quicker.
    It was only 1 second behind the Viper T/A at VIR, and faster than the Turbo S at both BarberMotorSports & VIR...
    But here it's only about a second quicker than the GT500... dissapointing

    • @jeffwill4923
      @jeffwill4923 Před 10 lety

      This is more of a HP track. Longer sweepers allow faster cars to stay in speed.
      Barbara has the most turns/corners of any track in the US it seems. Leguna has a very long strait unlike Barbara. 12+ turns/corners at Barbara will slow any car.
      Hell INDY cars are slowed down there.
      VIR is a little more technical like Barbara. Has to 2 long straits and about 3+ miles long. Barbara and Leguna are about the same distance at 2.3 miles long.
      At the end of day still a Camaro. People forget how bad the old Z06 was in it's time. Put these same mods on a old Z06 and new Cup2 tires. Would easily tie the Viper ACR time here.

  • @greenvy2000
    @greenvy2000 Před 10 lety

    the Camaro could peel the pavement off of the earth!

  • @mbizzle03
    @mbizzle03 Před 3 lety +1

    Mustang guy all the way but this car will be in my garage

  • @GrecoRoman123
    @GrecoRoman123 Před 10 lety +2

    So, the Porsche is like 2 seconds faster, but costs $108,695 more. LOL, WTF!

    • @HemiMike
      @HemiMike Před 10 lety +2

      Yeah and the F12 is $359k more and did not beat it. ;)

  • @pm512
    @pm512 Před 9 lety +1

    People coming up here comparing the Camaro to the Nismo CLEARLY don't have a mortgage, bills, insurance payments and definitely don't have a woman. In the FANTASY land of make believe you can afford another 50 THOUSAND dollars and buy a Nismo. But out here in the real world, you are just talking. Plus, anybody looking at a Z28 will not be looking at a Nismo and vice versa.

  • @sanduzmeu8891
    @sanduzmeu8891 Před 10 lety

    Cant believe this is even a contender, never mind that it won.

  • @electricfeel9501
    @electricfeel9501 Před 10 lety

    Wow that is camaro is fast on the track

  • @MM-ss9mp
    @MM-ss9mp Před 10 lety

    Hell yeah!

  • @waitingforacentury
    @waitingforacentury Před 10 lety

    I didn't expect this car to win from a M4. Chapeau

  • @realRickSanchez
    @realRickSanchez Před 10 lety

    Are they going to try the new Z06 for this year Best Driver's Car??? I would love to compare the time vs the 911 turbo s

    • @jeffwill4923
      @jeffwill4923 Před 10 lety

      Next yr. will have much better cars. Hopefully a NISMO with this N-Pack Track stuff is here. Maybe 650S,Huracan,918,GT3 and Z06 + new Viper TA 2.0 in this test.

  • @PROutdoors94
    @PROutdoors94 Před 10 lety

    Most of the video should just be on Randy's feet! That footwork looked intense!

  • @Nxthxnxel
    @Nxthxnxel Před 10 lety

    His rev matching gave me chills

  • @HK.Builds
    @HK.Builds Před 10 lety +3

    Wow.. Subaru wrx sti is 10 seconds slower. But was kind of expected, this is a $75k car. Plus u can always modify the subaru. Anyway im surprised at this, I actually really like this camaro. Well done murica

  • @GJM-
    @GJM- Před 10 lety

    A good driver + manual sport car = Glorious

  • @waclosh
    @waclosh Před 10 lety

    Randy didnt say a word. Cars dont get much cooler than that.

  • @pbfloyd13
    @pbfloyd13 Před 10 lety +1

    0:51 Head Shoulders Heel & Toe!

  • @mandangalo72
    @mandangalo72 Před 9 lety

    Im a Heavy Chevy Lover and im still impressed.They should put a twin turbo on it though!

  • @logueg
    @logueg Před 10 lety

    Great time. Already looking forward to next years hot laps....more specifically the Z06's lap. I'm guessing 1:31 - 1:32ish.

  • @jeffwill4923
    @jeffwill4923 Před 10 lety +1

    The test is called the best driver's car. Not the Fastest car test. Z28 and 911 Turbo S are the favorites. I another knew this last month. The tuned NISMO video is out but he says doesn't like the car in certain aspects.
    If they put these mods on old Z06 like GM should have, easily same time a Viper ACR.
    Z28 is still a Camaro at the end of the day.

  • @cmcmilan6535
    @cmcmilan6535 Před 10 lety

    My 3rd favorite car

  • @ShenalWelikala92
    @ShenalWelikala92 Před 10 lety

    Thnx to it's massive 7L V8 it has better timing.But timing is not the only Criterion.(I wish if there was a Z06)

  • @i8nm3gp
    @i8nm3gp Před 9 lety

    Yo randy! What's that fancy footwork I see there?

  • @jalloor
    @jalloor Před 10 lety

    Is there a reason that the 911 is so much faster? Something does not add up. In all other comparisons both the 911 and the z/28 are much closer than that. Does the Camaro have fresh tires or is that the track has some pretty good straights that favor the 911? looking at the G-meter looks like the Porsche is pulling some serious G's around the turns. It just doesn't make sense.

  • @marcelohuarachi2781
    @marcelohuarachi2781 Před 7 lety

    buenísimo

  • @adrinamarae5400
    @adrinamarae5400 Před 10 lety

    God I love this car so much. Looks like an absolute beast, Brutal assault on the senses from all sides. Everything else seems tame in comparison.

  • @a.alegria4533
    @a.alegria4533 Před 10 lety

    too impressed

  • @BeyondtheTrial
    @BeyondtheTrial Před 10 lety

    were the tires of the all the cars warmed up before the track testing?

    • @jeffwill4923
      @jeffwill4923 Před 10 lety

      Yes, he does quite few laps here. Z28 tires probably take the longest to get in heat. There is a gauge on dash to tell the temps.

  • @andrewt248
    @andrewt248 Před 9 lety

    Heel-Toe like a beast. Wow.

  • @WolverineNerd
    @WolverineNerd Před 9 lety

    Greatest Muscle Car Ever Built!
    Chevrolet 4 Lyfe!!!

  • @Goff968
    @Goff968 Před 10 lety +1

    Best Camaro ever made in my opinion...even better than the ones from the 60's

  • @Shenmoki
    @Shenmoki Před 9 lety

    Oof. That racing line tho. Randy is the master of Laguna.

  • @devandooling3266
    @devandooling3266 Před 10 lety

    can you do a head to head Ferrari 458 vs Lamborghini hurcan

  • @MrFoof82
    @MrFoof82 Před 10 lety +1

    Credit where credit is due. Considering its curb weight, that's a very respectable time.

  • @PupitoManuel
    @PupitoManuel Před 10 lety

    Camaro Z-28, BMW M-4, and Nissan GT-R,? If I had the money, I'd buy all three and drive'm all enjoying everything each one of them has to offer. I don't dig Mercedes, Ferrari, Porsche, Jaguar, etc. because I know my place and those are way too expensive for me and I am a realistic person. Anyways, good job guys, and keep the good work!

  • @marcelohuarachi2781
    @marcelohuarachi2781 Před 7 lety

    ameisin auto unas pocas modificaciones y listo escuchaste youtube y gmail

  • @OhNotJohnny
    @OhNotJohnny Před 10 lety

    Kinda of sad that the Porche 918, Mclaren P1 & LaFerrari weren't available to show the world what they are capable off! (: (

  • @blkz2001
    @blkz2001 Před 10 lety

    i would like to see the HENNESSEY CAMARO Z28 run on this track...

  • @FLOCKAIRpilots
    @FLOCKAIRpilots Před 10 lety

    I miss hearing randy's commentary on each vehicle

  • @Drzking9229
    @Drzking9229 Před 10 lety +1

    Thought the Z/28 would do better for what it's intended to do.

    • @jeffwill4923
      @jeffwill4923 Před 10 lety

      It's still a Camaro not the old Z06. Put these same mods,shocks, and new Cups tires on old Z06. It runs what the Viper ACR did sometime ago.
      GM left a lot of time on the table with that Corvette.
      The Z06 will and always better then this Z28.
      Next new Z06 will set a record if the 918 isn't here.

  • @1chris311
    @1chris311 Před 10 lety +1

    Holy crap that sounds good! C'Mon SRT build a T/A challenger!

    • @CadillaccJ
      @CadillaccJ Před 10 lety +1

      i'm afraid the Challenger is a little too big to be anything of a sports car, its more of a grand touring car for its size and weight standardly, we'll have to wait for them to build a totally different model that is smaller and more agile with wheel base, 1st gen like Barracuda maybe...

    • @1chris311
      @1chris311 Před 10 lety +2

      I agree with you 90%. The challenger is mainly so heavy because of all the sound insulation and comfort tech that it's got. I'd be willing to bet they can easily drop 500+lbs out of it. That then drop in their fire breathing hellcat motor, I think it be a competitor.

  • @patrickdow2167
    @patrickdow2167 Před 10 lety +1

    Even though this is "stripped out" it still weighs 3,800 pounds

  • @someusername121
    @someusername121 Před 10 lety

    A car with no air conditioning isn't a driver's car, it's a weekend toy.

  • @TheSTRedline
    @TheSTRedline Před 10 lety

    Daaaammmm!!! Thats one hell of a way to spend $75,000!

  • @rascals2041
    @rascals2041 Před 9 lety

    Camaro is the best car ever!!

  • @mratliffjr0001
    @mratliffjr0001 Před 10 lety

    It's funny that they talk about the Camaro being big and heavy, but the Nissan GTR actually weighs more than this Z28. Also, the GTR has 100 more horsepower, AWD, computer assistance, costs a significant amount more, and only got around the track 2 secs faster than the Camaro. I was sort of shocked.

  • @kongman27
    @kongman27 Před 10 lety +2

    not bad , not bad at all .........

  • @xXZHKXx
    @xXZHKXx Před 10 lety

    I think it is a bit unfair that they don't enter the lap at the same speed.. the alfa 4C for example began the lap with 100mph and the Z/28 with 108mph.. which is a pretty big difference imo

  • @willneverstop
    @willneverstop Před 8 lety +1

    how the hell did the new 1LE beat this thing

  • @Ramb1t0
    @Ramb1t0 Před 10 lety +1

    75k! That's crazy for a Camaro. You can get an SS and have 30k in upgrades! lol