ASSASSIN CAITLYN (Lethality Build)
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- Maybe we need another Durability update?
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I am happy to see Darkkmane's self-defense build is coming back for action on the rift
Thats what i was thinking about when watching this video
that azir was getting the preemptive self defense
Don't forget AD Le blanc
ah, man of culture
That build need 1st strike, so ur now AN UGLY FROG
Gp complaining about 1,7k dmg xD
Yeah if only there was a champion that could do this, but AOE. Oh wait...
that was the funniest thing ive seen in a while LMAO
yeah but at least GP takes a lot more skill to play
Yeah GP has to kite as much as Caitlyn, he doesn't have a cleanse + heal on the same spell to escape punishment when he makes a mistake, he also doesn't get movement speed and has ignite with double it's damage on auto attacks and a huge undodgeable ultimate that slows enemies, making it hard or outright impossible to chase him and sidestep his barrels.
GP Barrel Combos are harder, the champ in general is not.
@@liam5254 ????????? what skill? having three fingers to put the barrels fast enough and shot it isnt skill playing cait requieres more skill because u need to survive to do dmg while gp can tank and deal 3k dmg with only a barrel
0:43 poor briar screaming in terror
Now people have an excuse to not take the cait ult for someone.
imagine being full health trying to block it for your low health ally and you just get deleted 💀
@@Xephyranth Shits gone wrong with every Rito meta feature 😂
well judging from the clips, rakan took it for his teammate while cait was full build and survived
@@randokaratajev2617 rakan is also a tank and "its not a LITERAL one shot" shouldnt ever have to be an argument
Unless You're Braum
"Have no fear, the Champion Durability Update is here!
This patch is a doozy, y'all. We've been working on a sweeping set of changes to increase champion durability across the board. So, unlike other patches that typically focus on balance via individual tweaks, 12.10 is all about evenly increasing durability overall (and nerfing related systems accordingly, like heals, shields, and sustain). You can expect to see longer fights throughout the game, more effort required to burst down your foes, and bigger windows of opportunity for skill expression."
We are also going to increase the offensive stats on all items by an avg of above 3% over the next 10 patches to get back to square one! This is what you wanted, right?
And buff every champion that has a hard time killing someone in 3 seconds
LMAO
And I loved how they tried to justify the constant damage buffs by saying "it's what would make the players of that champion happy", by using, and I'm not kidding, Taliyah as an example.
You know, the mid ranged zone controlling roaming mage, who is most known for her giant wall ultimate, and is specifically designed to be a caster that sacrifices some damage, to be able to do a bunch of other useful stuff. There are so many other things that Riot can buff about her, which her mains would also enjoy... they just couldn't find any of them, apparently.
And if they unironically see damage as Taliyah's main selling point, then this basically means that at least 80% (but likely even more) of the roster has damage as their main selling point too, which would explain quite a lot. And the fact that items boost offense/damage better than ever is certainly not helping, especially since the pure offense builds are usually the most viable ones, even on champs where that didn't always use to be the case.
The big numbers and fast kills are still quite funny, but they get old really fast, especially as more and more champs are getting the ability to pull them off.
I mean, every clips shows what this build does while it’s ahead, which you have to be in order for it to be relevant. Would also like to see clips of what this build does from behind instead of ahead, but that’s not as clickbait-y.
honestly this is the only way you play ADC
it's safer
Cool, its not the first time it happened too. I remember a lot of Cailtlyn's abusing lethality when it first arrived.
dude lethality miss fortune was the bane of my existance
Lethality was so busted on release, EVERY adc abused it like no tomorrow
You dont play ARAM so much, else you would have noticed how OP Lethality is in this mode. Every Fighter, Assassin or ADC builds Duskblade, Eclipse or similiar Lethality items.
It really needs a nerf, in ARAM atleast.
@@MattHatter360 i remember playing ezreal with duskblade and doing OHK most mages with E+AA
Thats because i don't hink you remember MF + Dark Harvest + Draktarr first release lmao.
1 Q on minion = 70% hp damage.
From a Hextech powered Sniper Rifle, to a straight up Barrett M82. Quite the upgrade.
always satisfying to click on someone to kill them, bot fun when you get one tapped yourself tho
This is probably enhanced by the fact that briar is seeing so much play. Briar is quite literally a free kill if she ever presses any of her buttons (W makes her move in a line, E makes her stationary, R is a combination of both)
i'm literally being begging people to not draft her on arams for that. she's not bad 1 v1 , but in teamfight it's just awful, at best she can trade 1 for 1, nothing more.
@@tommyfanzfloppydisk you care about what people pick in aram? really>
@@arigatameiwaku i dont care which mode is or if its win or loss. I Just want to have fun 20 mins.if someone in game is just inting/running It down It isnt so fun. My Arams have really high mmr and usually everyone Is around that level (props to riot for that),so everyone Is gonna punish you hard. To add context :my friends dont want to play with my main Aram account(i use others) because the game is "too stressing,too punishing,way harder than my rankeds". So yea i dont want ppl to pick her, i light complain on no Frontline comps, full ad/ap or similars,cuz that results in "draft diff" or loss to sheer shop math. The most fun i have its a Fair game ending with both open nexuses and Who cares Who win.
2:13 I didn't know they made darius R global 😃
Its great to see the broken ARAM strats come to SR.
sp ashe, then AP kaisa, now this
Great? Maybe because now riot will pay attention and make them non viable 🙏
I've always said that caitlyn doesn't need attack speed if you play her well. Trap headshot E headshot kills just about anyone instantly if you build lethality and you also get obscene ult damage on top
Can't kite tanks as well without AS
@@omri9325 don't need to press e and they get slowed and there's nothing they can do to catch up.
@@reaper8264 Her E is single target. If you need to kite in a team fight you're gonna need either Stormrazor or Phantom dancer.
More attack speed means more passive headshots though.
True, but it wasn't like that for always, though. Lethality only became this powerful ever since headshot damage was no longer dependent on crit. Previously, you had to buy crit which only comes in pack with attack speed, if you wanted to improve headshot dmg. Now all you need is sheer atk dmg.
"Maybe we need another Durability update?" I was thinking about the same thing, beacause as a main assasin, in my case kata, i really like durabilities patch
first time seeing a kata main loving the durability patch, i think it was dogshit cause it made the best playstyle (ap) terrible
@@reikahime Kata can build anything and still be useful. Especially divine + bork conq katarina. Ap wasn't her best playstyle it was the most fun and balanced one.
I've been building this in ARAM and the build is super fun. I think this build is a consequence of lethality items having tons of haste compared to the standard adc build.
not only the haste, but the overall stats are just amazing. Movement speed, high ad, and lethality + ldr is just amazing and for a fraction of the cost of the crit items (youmuus costs 300 gold less than galeforce) which means you can hit your powerspike waay earlier..
Thats like one of the reason alot of adc players (myself included) stopped playing the game (unbalance between roles and dmg)
@@ampes844feel like you need to have some kind of mental illness to keep playing adc in season 13 😂 I quit myself
For someone whos been doing these since season 5, I am so proud of you guys. This is a dream come true.
Been trying to tell my friends that this is legitimately better than typical crit. Why wait until minute 25 to 30 while also doing really well to do damage, when you can get cheaper assassin items to do even more damage for less work?
I try to go lethality on most of my ADC champions. Crit takes 10 years to feel relevant (would still die to random 1/8 Camille at that point)
Lethal adc builds thriving currently due to shit state of adc items. Lethal build good, but against 3 armor frontlines maybe not. Draft dependent like always. Cait excess at lane sieging so
This was even more broken in Arena since the Aximon Arc there gives your ult like 20% bonus dmg
Glad it's so over 😂
eh but champions do get more base hp and armor
But try to ult against 800 ms bonus perk veigar karma vlad or just tanks in general
Phreak: We are not focused on balancing the game, we are focused on increasing fun. Rock-Paper-Scissors is balanced, but not fun.
A real thing Phreak has said in his recent Pro Play video (though not exactly 100% word for word)
And killing Azir from full HP shows it.
Ranged champions need 50% effectiveness from lethality, and this is coming from a Senna main.
I disagree with that. ADCs just need to shift towards more Crit scaling like how Sivir did
@@biastrafig Some do, but not all of them. Otherwise every ADC is the exact same and that would be boring.
But they should not be allowed to get a quadra kill from 1/4th HP like I watched a Samira do in a clip. 3 of the 4 enemies were full HP and immediately died to her.
@@Shuyin128MK4 they wouldn't be the exact same though. Tristana and sivir both have crit scaling. They still play completely different. The issue is high base AD scaling making ability focused ADCs too strong with assassin items stats. If you make the damage a lower AD ratio multiplied by Crit they still keep what makes them different but it keeps them on the ADC archetype instead of ranged assassin
I've noticed in the last few weeks that most adcs have not just done better off with full lethality builds, but they also just outright feel better to play and use.
The only exceptions being Kog/Vayne/Kaisa due to their mechanics.
Even q max vayne is better than attack speed vayne.
I mean also Kalista, sivir since her rework, Tristana, Jinx, aphelios, Ashe, and Lucian are also really dependent on ADC items
1 month later adc lethality is still a problem
Dark harvest/First Strike Cait has been the most fun thing I’ve been playing for the past 5 months but lethality needs some serious nerfs with the mythic removal
It's not cool if a champ is so overpowered. I also played her and was successful, and it only made me pitiful of the enemy team because my insane dmg had nothing to do with my actual skill.
The game has to be fun for everyone
1:07 ok, but like... can we talk about that briar healing
Just riot’s bullshit all around.
Corporate Mundo in his car animation getting headshot by Caitlyn....
*Enemy buys a cloth armor*
Cait: Where is my dmg now lol?
armor is useless against lethality. thats the whole concept of it
Armor stacking directly counters lethality...@@D4RKBRU73
@D4RKBRU73 Reduced physical damage = armor value divided by (armor value + 100).
Lethality was designed for assasins- Flat penetration to put enemy carries armor to near 0. The moment enemies buy enough armor, lethality's value depletes. Percentage armor pen value goes up. Eclipse becomes better than Youmuus because mythic passive, last whisper legendary items gain more value than serrated dirk legendary items.
Into enemies with a lot of armor and when you are full build, IE is definitely the best mythic, built alongside crit & percentage armor pen items.
@@jeiku-cool4406tbh it depends of the game, of course you wont prioritize lethality over armor pen% vs malphite. In some games, lethality cait is better, ive tested it a lot
@@jeiku-cool4406 ah cool, thank you!
Regardless of whether it's balanced or not, the Lethality playstyle does kinda make sense for a sniper.
yes indeed, now that you say it. whatever they decide to do with cait in the future...putting more emphasis on hard hitting rather slow attacks would make way more sense rather then putting her in the same direction as other crit+atk speed based champs
@@1235bmu Yes, I agree! After removing every bit of skill expression from Caitlyn in the VGU, then buffing her into pro as pick/ban and nerfing her core gameplay as a response to that, we really need braindead point-and-click oneshot Caitlyn. Who cares about kiting on ADC anyway? God I hope Riot stops this shit.
@@user-rm1cj1en7s not every adc should be the 10 attacks per second machine gun.
@@PaladineAvenger1 You simply never played the champ when it had a unique identity. Lethality Caitlyn is the equivalent of comet MF. Sure it might work but its a no-hands playstyle coming from a formerly super mechanical champion.
@@user-rm1cj1en7s Let's say we go into the "skill expression ADC" side. What would be the key components and feature of this version of Caitlyn and why would I play this champ over the other "Tryhard Skill" ADCs? Just because Caitlyn is hard or easy doesn't make her bad or better. Champions exist in their own little niche and playstyle and need to be accomodated into that role, otherwise, we run into a problem of homogenization and redundancy.
Wait wait wait I saw this in my feed and clicked on it thinking it was a Pianta video. Dear lord
Azir be standing there like a fried chicken accepting his doom with every cait ult🐓
Somehow I feel this isn't too terribly different from normal Cait damage
thank god people are finally realizing caits potential
the axiom arc sound hits hard
ok are we just not gonna talk about how braum had a galeforce and titanic hydra
CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER 🎶
I mean a full build Caitlyn vs a 2 1/2 item azir.. would expect the Caitlyn to absolutely demolish
Well done 47. Make your way to the extraction point.
seeing this build makes me remember XFSN Saber again
cool, every single lethality caitlyn on my team inted so far just to see a big funny number, cant wait to see more
Tbh I've seen normal caits int as well. If they suck with lethality, they would suck with normal Cait as well. Cait is a champ, that really relies on using her range to perfection. To position safely. If you get caught, youre dead. She has shit base hp and E - Net is a really bad self peeling tool. If you suck on traps, they dont helpt you either. So ure literally a punching bag.
@@stoyc well obviously people can int regardless of builds, the problem of lethality build is barely any attack speed which means that the only thing you can do is a big funny number and you cant do that against tanks or lategame bruisers because lethality sucks fat ass when fighting enemies with high def and dark harvest/first strike is garbage compared to lethal thempo, so who's supposed to beat them? Assassin? Enchanter? Mage? Tank? If you dont have a good bruiser on your team that can deal with them instead of you then you're just straight up trolling by going with that build, there's 0 upside to going that build over classic crit atk speed build, you still nearly oneshot squishy champs and can deal with tanky enemies no problems unlike with lethality build
This feels like old sivir, ahh good old oneshot q times
1:43 god damn vandiril showing off
Gankplank got taste of his own medicine.
Classic, now I remember range if not global ults was one of the fave characteristics on champs, next was AOE ults for wombo combo like back in Dota 1. Nowadays people just pull up tier lists.
circa S1~s3
this build existed for a while
more of this pls
Now that is how Cait meant to be played.
Yes that's what I build whenever i get autofilled as adc because i don't know how to adc properly
saber has been doing that for a while
i've seen this a lot in arams lately, i've seen a couple streamers have it in their games
i found another bug, if malz uses e the very last second, the minion will "drown" with the E spell and not spread it and it is on cd
I've been playing this in aram for years, it's so fun
Has been enjoying this for months already :D. Always get pinged and said noob. But silenced when they see the ult 1 shoted the enemy
Saber been preaching this for months
I think navori is better. Since it boosts your abilities damage based on your critical rate and her ultimate was also changed to deal more damage based on your critical rate too.
I have hit ultimates close to 2.5k.
Lethality and ability haste + passive.
At the end, Azir just accepted
lore accurate caitlyn
the true self defence master is finally meta
ok but can we stop for a sec and just look at those plays like holly fuck
Reminds me of the time lethality was realesed and it made Jihn Bonkers.
"HUHHHH?
1700 damage headshot
:DDD"
-JFK 1963
1:07
when you uno reverse 200 years of game design
i played that build every Aram, 20 or 25s ulty CD
When the gun becomes lore accurate
no azirs was harmed in the making of this video
she is been like that since the ad buff like 1 year ago i think
I’m glad im not the only one thinking cait has alot of damage recently
Vandiril casually flexing his Caitlyn
saber would be happy to see this
Lethality is the stat that allows for any champion to do this btw. You can't replicate this with any other role in the game.
Lethality Veigar time
Its not only lethality , but also armor penetration , both combined are alot stronger than focusing on only one
Oh and dont forget , ad ratios
@@oicmorez4129 shit might as well since it immediately turns any champion into an assassin 🤷🏽♂️
@@oicmorez4129who knows if the game goes for a mere 2 hours u could be a 500ad 1000ap hybrid veigar assassin
@@GorecattoWhy do both of them have the same icon tho?
tbh, he says we might need another durability update as a joke but tbh it might have to be a regular thing at this point. Just making sure things are in line at regular times at the end of the season or somethin
Love this build so much
"Letalidade é balanceada"
Riot gomes
I've been doing this for years, but the moment the enemy builds hp or armor, you become a pea shooter
yo Vandiril kinda cracked at caitlyn
Wow, finally they poop hit the fan with that champion
THE GALE FORCE BRAUM 💀💀
0:32 what is the second projectile that hits after the ult? from an item?
i love seeing gangplanks getting one shot
Oh, that’s a gun gun.
Vandiril is gaming
nobody talking about the Darius ult range
Could ult damage be more with Navori, Collector, LDR/Mortal reminder... more crit lethality items?
Cait's ult has crit scaling.
most likely not, you're already going collector LDR so 40% crit already exists, and with navori, it caps at 20% ability dmg at 5 crit items, 4% ability dmg per crit item, you're sacrificing 3 AD items with lethality for potentially 12% or 8% ability dmg bonus. I say 8% if you hit 6 items like what vandiril did when he was showcasing on azir bc BT gives the most AD in the game, which pushes ur ability dmg bonus to 12% out of 20%.
On top of this, you're giving up very valuable items for lethality like edge of night and axiom arc, edge of night being an insanely good lethality defensive option, while axiom arc just helps lethality cait a ton get more ults off in general.
And your mythic being duskblade/youmuus versus navori, you actually get a lot more defensive utility with the lethality options, duskblade can make you untargettable in fights which could save ur life, and youmuus movementspeed on active is insane for running or chasing people down, while giving an insane amount of lethality, potentially up to 30 lethality at lvl 18.
With all the upsides of the lethality items, I don't think that 8% dmg bonus on ult damage is worth it, especially since it heavily weakens ur headshots which seem to be a big chunk of dmg.
Ill go check right now
Edit: Ok so having checked both builds, yea crit does more damage at any armor level. Tested it at 0 armor, 50 armor, 80 armor, 100, armor, 130 armor and lastly 200 armor. The damage was extremely close around the 100 armor mark with crit doing only 30 more damage. But the more you deviated from 100 armor crit started outshining it more and more. Especially at lower armor levels, at 0 Crit did 750 more damage. and at 200 crit did 100 more damage.
Crit > Lethality for pure R damage
If you wanna know which builds i used for crit vs lethality. Both builds used Bloodthirster, LDR, Collector and Axiom Arc. The crit build had Navori and Essence Reaver for its final 2 items and Lethality had Youmuu's and Edge Of Night. Both with no potions.
it'd be better to use duskblade instead of navori ngl
Wait a sniper rifle working like a sniper rifle and not machine gun. This is finally accurate.
I still like the lethality mythic, then full crit build in some cases. It really depends on how tanky the enemy team is
kaisa lethality is a thing now too
This is what we staN LDR for
Idk if it was a bug or not but you got sight of Azir even when he hid in the bush; 1:45
ADC(aster) Caitlyn is real. It's actually stronger with Navori but takes longer to scale. BT, Collector, Navori with either CDR boots or Zerkers so you can help with objectives and you got yourself a party. Swap Collector for LDR if you're against tanks/bruisers.
When i play aram, i always build lethality but i choose dark harvest. This rune seems good too but i think i'll stick to dark harvest.
finally
accurate Cait gameplay
Saber’s legacy to League
When i saw her win rate i couldn't believe it
Damm Vandiril kinda nasty with the mechanics 😂
Accurate sniper lore
Finally !
Atlest Cait if Jhin is forever weak
I got this 2 times in my rank game, they definitely wasn’t part of the 56.35% WR gang
Can we get much higherrrr
I mean. Welcome to Aram Cait!
Well, i was playing in Aram days ago and i figured that cait is just a BIT too strong with Crit-letalithy
I went IE+StormRazor+Lord Dominik+Collector, Serrated Dirk and dark harvest rune, i have a video of it hidden because some people didn't want to believe.
Riot will probably nerf her "letalithy stats"
INB4 Teemo was level 17 and he had 2200 HP, he died after stepping in a trap and i just auto him.
Since this isn't changed in patch 13.19, you think we'll see it in worlds?
Gp complaning about one shot LOL.
1:16 come on fam, you have 5 stacks on W, there's a big circle where he's in about the same time one is charged
Has _zero_ survival instincts as an ADC but still survives WHILE oneshotting that Pantheon. Adc players will think that’s normal and how it should be anyway.
ADC mains think that this is still not strong enough
Experienced this first hand
that one quincy from bleach
its funny that gangplank is the one complaining about bveing one shot by one ability