This Is A DISASTER! UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNTS OF FILLER - Shmee's Financial Disaster!!!
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- čas přidán 8. 04. 2024
- Shmee150's Porsche 914 really is a financial disaster! This classic car is hiding all sorts of bad repairs and lots and lots of filler! Unbelievable amounts of filler. We are on the road to restoring this abandoned project and didn't expect to see this!
We are at the stage now where the paint needs to go and we need to see what metal fabrication we need to do to straighten the car. Not only is it crash damaged, but it is also bent like a banana. This may have been why this classic was abandoned as a project, and this, along with the crazy amounts of filler is why this is a financial disaster. Nothing we can't sort though! - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Buy a 1970s car they said... it'll be fine they said... oops!
Did you keep the receipt?😅
Gt4 RS Engine Restomod would be epic 👌🏼
It's my childhood dream car. Should have hot tanked it. Worth every penny. You'll see.
Restoration they said, That will be easy we said! Now look at it 😂😂😂
I think we are finally going to see somebody have a breakdown on CZcams 😂😂
Last time I saw that much white powder it was the 1980s.
😂😂😂😂😂
LMAO!! Unbelieveable
Not even Tony Montana had that much white powder
hahahaha🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I can't believe you haven't got a dedicated sanding room (eg sided popup gazebo) with extraction for cars like that. Or get it dipped
That white powder would destroy this shop every time they sand a car like this.
The work involved on these strip downs surely justifies a sand blaster toom somewhere in the shop? But love the vids Ryan.
Was thinking something similar, though more of a sandblast room. Could see it saving a lot of money at the scale they're operating at, since it'll take less time to strip a car and prep it for filler/paint
You need to get an air feed face mask , a big overhead vacuum , think how much litter it will be when you have finished , love your adventures
They are such craftsmen don't understand whey they don't use it. I want to see them in 20 years still healthy
I can't believe that much airborn shit in a workplace isn't illegal.
The Safety Video I had to watch looonnng time ago was graphic but I remember it today. Don't wear safety glasses with a wire wheel...see picture of a guy with a piece of wire stuck in his eyeball. Don't wear seat belt on fork lift, see picture of guy with fork lift laying on him. How lovely a drill press looks with a long lock of hair wrapped in it. Etc. Etc. Even in my garage at home, I do my best to stay safe (so far...so good). Wear the Safety Gear!!!!
He's worn 1 in matt Armstrong videos
what I don't understand is the metal doesn't look terribly off - why the gallons of body filler? Like the patch attempts were horrible - but there weren't that many. (on the exterior. The interior is a nightmare.)
I think they are mainly focusing on the corrosion they are seeing, who ever did the body work and paint on it previously didn’t replace the door skins or the sheet metal they just put filler over the rust and painted over it.
Back in the 60's before most of you were born, a magazine called Car and Car Conversions i think, took a good looking Ford Consul circa1960, and stripped it. The result was the car folded in the centre, the entire structure having been made by filler. In those pre test days it was common practice....and the results were horrific. Ever since then, i always preffered to buy rot i could see, then repair it. This brings back the devious minds of some people with no scruples. Nice content though.
I was going to comment that it is a good thing they clamped the car to the jig before they started work! Because some of that filler might be structural.
Reminds me of my Uncle’s old crash repaired Mini, he was too skint to get it repaired properly so used tonnes of papier mache and hammerite. Never one to hang around he managed to hit a stray cow on a back road, he scarpered but days later the village bobby was heard to be perplexed at the crime scene involving the dead heiffer and 16 copies of The Sun
Back in the 50's pre MO?T days even concrete was used in the wings
That is a car that should be acid dipped to remove everything that isn't steel. Rust, bondo, paint, everything. Don't know if they have such a facility in the UK, but having owned a '61 and '63 Mini, they need one!! Good luck with the repairs. I've been watching Colin's BMW and it looks terrible...this is worse. Keep wearing the safety gear!!
Dipping them strips all the protection from seams.. causes mayhem as you can't fully protect the seams afterwards which rust starts bleeding from.. sandblasting is far better as long as the person doing it knows about sandblasting cars
@@scotty281976 I watched a few acid dip videos here on YT. Some folks want it delivered in bare steel. The rest go for an extra dip into some kind of a preservation fluid that obviously coats *everything*. That 914 needs an "everything"!!
If done properly, acid dipping, neutralising and passivation is the way forward. Dont focus on the one trick ponies that just offer acid dipping and a coat of primer to stop flash rust.....the time and labours hours saved are worth it...
@@scotty281976an old myth from the 1980s.
Best channel since braketry and Binky!
I reckon with all that excessive filler removed, the car will be so much lighter (& faster!) once it's fully restored.👍👍
Please take care of your health Ryan.....all that excessive dust that can be seen hanging in the air can't be good for your lungs, etc.
Keep up the great work, This is going to be a challenging project
I AM NEARLY 60 and for 30 years i repaired and restored cars .tbh! i have seen this so many times . my tip of the day to anyone buying an old car especialy one that looks good take a magnet with you if that magnet don't stick to the best looking bit's walk away . i once had a poor guy in my garage with a 1971 vw camper that he had just bought it looked ok ! from a distance [ nice and shiney ] he told me the seller just had a 4 k respray . THIS OLD VW BUS HAD plaster'es edge beading hammerd to a rough shape and i si""t you not cement / underbody seal for a main chassy and the body remined me of this day i had to tell the poor guy he had just bought the most expensive polished freaking lemon on earth .
. the saddest thing to be honest was the thing had a flooked engine [ it ran in 3 of the 4 cylinders but i never had the heart to tell him .
I JUST GAVE HIM A WRITTEN REPORT 3 A4 SHEATS LONG . and told him to take it back . 2 weeks later this guy returned to my garage and gave me a bottle of johnywalker black label .
Wow, Ryan, what an absolute death trap that thing was with all that rust in the sill beams and floor, nothing at all with any integrity holding it together.
Paint? The paint was holding it together?.... Maybe?
Transmission tunnel looks solid....
In Brazil we call it Lasanha, after the Italian meal Lasagna, meaning that it has a lot of mass, hahaha
Heaven forbid that the business that did this mess on this vehicle is not still operating 😮
Excellent video 👍🇦🇺
It costs a fortune filler and sanding, this screams diy. No serious bodyshop would do this.
Holy moly. Unbelievable, what a terrible state.
I feel for you Tim
gr8 to see the others in the vid too. loved the dancing lolz
This must be illegal! That car would have flexed so much on the road, completely unsafe. Terrifying 😳
Flex? That crap is thick as my stone countertop 😂
Please protect your eyes and lungs with proper sealing glasses and pressurized masks otherwise you will end up with lung problems.
Eeehh, lad give over! PPE? Nay! That's not how Yorkshire folk operate! There's a grand tradition of lung disease and psillicosis in t'region. From workin' in t'coal mines, tha knows.
Proud heritage, handed down from wheezin' father to gaspin' son. Aye. If tha can still breathe on tha 45th birthday, tha's a soft b*stard from t'South of England, not a proper Yorkshireman.
Jeremy Clarkson's from Yorkshire. Need I say more? Yorkshire folk are pig-headed and bloody proud of it! 🤭
I wrote a Yorkshire-themed response to your Comment (involving the region's proud coal-mining heritage), but CZcams deleted it.
Sadly, it doesn't 'get' or allow Yorkshire humour. 😞
That's a lot of filler 😂 the car will have a better power to weight ratio now.
Boring American health and safety comment 🥱🥱🥱
@@Mahalo_83It’s typical when someone just must be noticed but has no technical expertise to add. It’s gotten quite common in videos from lawn mowing to setting a mouse trap. I haven’t checked in this case but almost always they have no content at all -in fact they often have no skills but to beat on what’s obvious to those who do. The big giveaway is that the safety comments come whether the video shows the use of PPE or not. It’s trolling but they would say, “I’m just trying to help!”.
Kudos to the team. At first I thought this car didn’t look too bad but, boy, what a mess! I suspect a 914 in our family will need similar attention.
Get yourselves a local dust extractor, we had one at work we called dumbo because it had a big trunk to suck up the nasty
Just one of the million things we have to purchase unfortunately.
@@yorkshirecarrestoration
Worth it for your Health. Especially with jobs like this.
@@markwalton8644 so are the other million of things we have to purchase :) it will come :)
@@yorkshirecarrestoration Appreciate just a concerned follower👍
@@markwalton8644 thank you we do appreciate your concern :) 👍
Please get Richard a mask ( you a well). Great music as ever
Forget the name Patches should be called Phil. 😂
I admire skill in putting so much bog on a car and actually getting it looking ok.
It's so bizarre, I see no reason to have so much filler all over. The outer panels seem to be mostly "fine" (as in no massive dents and rust issues) outside of the ugly patch in the corner of that rear wing.
The person who put it on was a sculptor! 😮
Good update keep it up the good work 👍👍👍
I have never been so shocked! As one dear old comedian used to say! My Flabby gasted has never been so flabbered! That was so fascinatingly scary thank you all! I needed a few glasses of wine and I am just watching it!! 🤨😵💫🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣😉
Hello, I always thought that the worst thing was to apply and sand off the nail, but when I see how much work it takes to remove it, I have a lot of respect for you. Amazing video. Ivan
Lovely to see this car being properly fixed. Thanks for sharing.
Like a Tim Burton horror film….
Best comment! 😂
Wouldn't be surprised if Helen Bonham Carter made an appearance.
Loving this project …probably my favourite so far. I am sure the final project will be amazing when complete
Hey Ryan, yet another rusty rabbit hole that you are taking us down. I find it amazing that a car like that was roadworthied at all, how unsafe for the occupants. You guys do brilliant work, it’s a pleasure to see. Scheme needs some financial compensation from the seller. Your are not leaving much for tha sand blaster, I would be worried that it will blow apart, that would make a stunning video. I agree with others about the dust collection. I have a large vacuum dust collector for my woodwork hobby. Attached to that is a big mouth Shute so I imagine that you could have one mounted on a stand that you move nearby to suck the dust rather than putting the health of everyone at risk when the shop is to be cleaned, you’re handling the crap a few times now. What a journey, thanks for sharing.
At last - a resto showing the UK aircooled VW experience! :D
My current beetle only had 10mm of filler on the right rear quarter, and 6mm on the left front quarter - both covering crash damage. Oh, and loads more glopped into the rust holes in the bonnet edges.
Imagine how much time it took to sand that entire mass of filler ready for paint- it looked really good on camera. Great video, makes me feel exhausted just watching!
Good to see a proper job being done. I've been through this type of bodging too many times too. I've used a heat gun on the excess filler and it comes off with a scraper. Just need to be mindful of not heating the metal too much. Saves on getting an inch thick layer of dust on everything in the unit.
Keep up the great work 👍 👍
Would it have been better to have it chemical dipped or media blasted? I still think you should have it done to get it absolutely clean.
The underside is going to be media blasted as explained early on in the video.
They've explained before why they don't like dipping, as acid remains trapped in seams.
Reminds me of the Lancia from Harry's Garage. Bit late now but you could do what they did and use a chisel to remove the filler,a lot less dust that way.
I think what you said at the end of the 100k stream applies here.
"F**in' hell" 🤣
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Thanks for the video.
You guys are doing a great job!!! If I need a car restoration I know who to call!
What fun you are having sorting this out it’s only Fit for the bin never seen anything like it
Photo bombed by your dad. Love it. Keep up the good work.
Bad for Schmee but good for you. Makes for lots of fantastic videos.
Great episode that buddy bin waiting to see this one 😂
You need a seperate shed and an air fed mask for that, you've a heart like a lion taking it on
PATCHES looks great cut into the rear quarter, would be nice to see it recreated as a vinyl decal to go somewhere on the finished car as a nod to its past
Ever thought about rolling it outside to strip the paint and filler?? Given that it has been blowing a gale and raining off and on here in the UK that should help in the elimination of any dust.
Not sandblasting the outside to save getting warped panels was definitely worth it 😂
I knew as soon as he said it was originally a Canadian Car, Rust Rust Rust. Buy from California or Arizona or Texas. Deserts equal no rust trouble. Now about that filler WTH.
Bloody hell the whole workshop Homer covered in filler snow
*Your videos are really great, thx for that* 😍
I had a 914-6 for many years. It had a bit of rust; they all do, I ended up bending it when I used the jacking point to work on the brakes. I jacked the car up and crunch! A family of mice had made a home under the rocker! I ended up getting it bent back to shape on a jig and welded by one of two; ... that's right two people who could really do this in the US at the time; .. apparently. The shifting of these cars is so compromised it ruins the driving experience. I have no idea how they raced them. For me it was not worth restoring, although its modded OEM engine had 210hp and was pretty fun. I sold it, it went to Hong Kong and I DON'T miss it. I had a 930 and laterly a '71T .. both more enjoyable
Seeing you at around the 7:55 mark made me think of that scene in Ace Ventura 2, when he's dusting one of the huts for finger prints 😅
Very good idea with dry ice , I’ve never seen that done before
You should have got a stone mason in to get rid of that amount of filler.
He did use a lump hammer and chisel on one of their other projects.
Ohh dear...more patches than a patchwork quilt..! Still, it is interesting watching this resto come together..keep the vids coming as they are enthralling to watch..thanks...
Scary! I’d love to try the ice trick on one of my projects, looked very satisfying! I do wonder why people who have resprays like this don’t go and see the work being done and then when it’s finished why they don’t complain that the car is now slow, like it’s lost 50 bop ( because of 200kg of filler)!
Would have been interesting to weigh the shell before and after stripping to see roughly how much weight the filler added. Nightmare job removing it all ! Great video as usual 👍
I’m pleased to see you’re all mucking in. It’s otherwise a dispiriting job.
The guy that did that body filler goes by the name “Bondo James Bondo”😂 omg!
If Shmee knew what he was buying, he really is a CZcams genius.
This is why you always take a small magnet with you to test the panels for filler on an older car
That is the worst thing I have ever seen in my life 😮😮😮
Amazing, but oh too common. This is why so many have a negative view of filler, which when used properly is an excellent product
WOW!!
Nice job Ryan, now you and everything within 200 meters is now covered with old filler dust. Please get a dust extraction system for these jobs, less cleaning up and more importantly all the blokes in your shop wont be breathing this crap. If you dont have your health you dont have anything. Are you sure Steve didnt pick this thing out of a yard somewhere, its got all the hallmarks, rust, bog, bent etc. Keep up the good work.
Cheers mate.
From the appearances after using the DA, it looked fairly straight. Despite the awful rusty patch jobs the wings look decent. The outer skin is there the inner is awful. Underneath will be way worse.
😵💫Thank God, there is nothing particular dust, Everywhere in the shop😵😵💫
Wow that's crazy. Half that car is just filler.
I cant believe you dont sand in a more closed environment. That garage, and everything in it, must be covered in horrible fine dust!
Bloody hell this looked a half decent shell before you started stripping it back, that is some serious amounts of filler and crap repairs
Prior to the bodywork the 914/4 cylinder weighed 940 kg / 2,094 lbs. After the paint and body work it weighed 1133 kg, 2500 lbs. .LOL
You need a containment aria with extraction. The lads will be fuming when they see Elsa has been making snow every where.
At today's prices, most people simply couldn't afford that much filler on just one car. I'm also concerned at the condition of some of the metal surface under the filler, as it doesn't appear to have been appropriately treated beforehand. What a mess, not to mention lugging all that extra weight around. Looking forward to seeing this repaired properly, the way it should have been done the first time.
An arid/dessert origin car is always the best choice. Canada not so much. The amount of salt used to combat ice in the winter, just eats cars alive. Next time Tim will look in Arizona, Nevada, southern Cal., etc. An "actual" good choice would not have looked so pretty with the paint job and all, but it would've been essentially rust-free.
Too bad you don’t have a separate tear down area or bldg.to keep some of the dust,dirt,etc.off the other cars.great video as always,y’all definitely have your work cut out for you.curious,yo still have your full time day job,or just in the shop.do not understand what possessed people to do all that work instead of fixing it right.the time spent had to be unbelievable to do what they did.great job.just continue doing your thing.😎😎😎👍👍👍
holy cow rian !! this one is giving the disater datsun a run for it's money !!
A shop vac can be your best friend sometimes 😊
I'm far from a panel beater but even I would be ashamed to have done that work. No excuse at all for that much bog on the panels. This is a good example of why you need an electronic paint thickness gauge to inspect any car you intend to buy.
they call that a filler widebody
Gee whiz Ryan I never saw body filler used so thick as someone did. Looks like it has a lot of hidden rust from under the patch work 🤔. Well I know one thing buddy its in the best of hands ✋️ with captain yorkshire on the job site shmee doesn't have any thing to worry about i have full faith and confidence in you good buddy 👍 Ryan, captain yorkshire 👍. Awesome video 👍 buddy take care god bless 🙌.
Was the prior owner a sculptor? This looks like an art project.
I bet the other guys in the workshop love it when you're making it snow. At least the car will be a tad lighter after that has all gone.
It is a marzipan wedding cake,all the frosting.
(hindsight being a wonderful thing...) shame we don't have a before V after weight... Perhaps making a new Guinness World Record!
Never has a car been so aptly named !!🤣
Ahhh, you found maybe the one goodish panel
Yeh first makes a change ayup Ryan 👍🏻😉🇬🇧
In all the restorations I’ve watched I’ve never seen the camera lense cleaned so much!
How much dust? I’ve dust in my living room now. That’s how much dust.
As per other comments.. my god, get a vacuum system... yes, you have a mask on, but the other guys in the same space dont ... this is just horrific for lungs! Btw, absolutely love the channel! Just please look into proper dust management 🙏
Amazing.m8
Someone has been generous with bondo
Looks solid compared to Harry's Zagato :D
That is the type of bondo which is used a lot in the states, i had a Black 2.0 4 cylinders and the doors would not shut properly because the car due to rust, had lost its structural integrity and that was in 1992!, i also brought a BMW 3.0 CS COUPE, Just like the orange one they've got in the garage, that was even worse then the Porsche, of course both cars were built by Karmann and there were a lot of rumours at the time that KARMANN was using really cheap ungalvanised steel at the time, still i wish i kept the 914 as it was like a go - cart... endless fun
Skim Coat 😂
Best performance mod 👍 lightening the car 😝
I know your not big about dipping cars but this would have been a good candidate.
All that time and effort is sculpting that filler. Amazing really, shame they didn’t just do it properly!
If whoever did that repair had done it right the first time round, it would have been cheaper in the long run. Man hours working all that mud and the cost for the filler it would have had less time and labor cost. I've seen work like that done here in the states. It's been a while but I've seen whole wings made out of the stuff and very little metal.
Another car ready for the scrap, I think!
😮😮😮😮 what a state.
Really wanted acid dipping.....but it's so bad that even the dippers might turn it away if they'd taken the precaution of running a magnet over it.
.....Just to add....an unusual car in an unusual colour. It shouldn't be too hard to find out who did all this bodging and painted over it. Anyone....?
Acid dip. saves hours and removes filler in a shorter period of time. The bit that gets me is that someone down the line paid huge bucks for a 'high quality' restoration and paint and got totally turned over.
I bet that car will be a heck of a lot faster now with the tons of filler removed... Who does that type shoddy work so we know never ever to go to such a place.