LSX Turbo 2500 Truck - Pulling a 15K trailer!!!
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- čas přidán 3. 03. 2021
- Our buddy Matt stops by with his custom built 2500 work truck that Scram Speed built specifically for WORKING. Under the hood it packs a 408 LS with AFR heads, forged bottom end, Bullseye TCT 80-87 turbo, and a Jakes 4L80E transmission. Whole turbo kit was hand built by Scram Speed, using a stock Duramax radiator and intercooler.
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That is really cool guys, as it comes at you it appears to be a duramax with a loud turbo then as it passes, you notice it’s gas!
Dream truck. I've been wanting to do this for years
Awesome, I'd put airbags in the rear so the truck suspension can keep up with the engine upgrade while towing heavy. Nice
Now this is a build I can get behind. Don’t wanna spend 50k on a diesel? Slap a turbo on a 15k gasser and it works all the same for 20k. Awesome
You can buy a diesel for 10k. Just leave the truck stock so it stays reliable. That’s why you buy gas anyway, not for power.
Don’t get it mixed up
@@sugmaball5383 you buy a diesel for 10k and it’s gonna be a rotted shit wagon. Clearly you aren’t in the market enough to be knowledgeable about pricing these days. Everyone thinks it’s worth it’s weight in gold. Vehicles with bad trans or engines are pulling 7-8k. Not a shot in hell your getting a good diesel for 10k. Don’t get it mixed up.
@@MintMonte87ACSS312incorrect
@@fritznonya459proof?
Great set up. I love it.
Duuude. That turbo looks massive.
Damn that ran like a dream!
But does it stop?
Wow! That's bad ass for a gas engine. I got a '05 sierra 6.0 4x4 2500hd makes me wanna upgrade and tune my ride now lol..
That's a sweet ass truck you need some coil over shocks on the back with some air bags and she will never squat. Awesome truck
Awesome. Very cool video
We need to see more of this truck please.
I'll see if we can get him to come back for another video.
@@Scramspeed any update on when you can shoot another video? I’m doing a similar build and would love some reference.
@@sagemata5756 We are working on it, we're kind of at the mercy of the truck's owner, and he uses the truck daily. ;-)
@@Scramspeed we need to get this man back on the channel it’s been two years😢
Year 2 of me asking to bring this truck back to the channel
We're doing out best. The problem is, we did it right the first time, so he hasn't needed anything or had need or want of any upgrades! We're trying, thanks for hanging in there.
What a beauty!!
The area looks really familiar, I am building a 93 gmc, 6.0L 7875 turbo. Didn't know people around my area had anything like this!
Hello: You can find us at www.scramspeed.com or call us at (217)590-0128. thanks!
Really wish the music was off during that uphill pull
Who says you need a diesel to pull heavy trailers. Just a turbo! And everything that goes with adding a turbo. Huge difference between Matt's truck and my stock 02HD with 6.0L and 4L80E. Mine is working pretty hard with about 12,000lbs behind it.
Except he’s getting 5 mpg to a diesels 15-20
@@loweredyote8416 stock diesels now days don’t get 15-20 without a load lol
@@Slablabfishing2023 bullshit they dont
@@Slablabfishing2023 Exactly I get 10 towing 10k with duramax l5p
@@loweredyote8416 No he ain’t got a 2020 l5p and get around 10mpg at $5 a gallon
Thing is badass man
Very nice truck, really like the blue color. The sound is nothing but bad. Wondering it the turbo helped MPG on the truck. I have a 6.0 in a 1999 Chevy 2500 Excab 4x4 tow package 3.73 rear gears. Great engines the 6.0. Bought it with 110,000miles now it got 214,000 still going strong. I have two other Chevys a 2001 2500HD Excab 4x4 Duramax LB7 94,000 miles; and a 2004 3500 Crewcab 4x4 8.1 (496ci) 4.10 rear gears. All three are good pulling trucks. Would like to see and know more about the Blue Chevy 6,0 turbo.
It's a bird! It's an airplane! No it's a big turbo Chevy😂
Id love to know if you saw any improvements in Gas Miles while towing?
No dislikes on this video, legendary
How are trans Temps and what stall speed? I have a bone stock 6.0 4l80e tow pig I would definitely love to do this
Get a truck with 6l90
Hit some hills then see how works. I'm very curious to know.
Curious to know what kind of MPG you were getting at that weight
Do you have a link to the crank case vent box y’all used? Correct me if I’m wrong but that’s what that was sitting behind the overflow tank? I need something similar to vent mine. Looks real good!
It was supplied by our customer. I am unsure of the brand.
Yes. It's a catch can/over flow tank from snail fab on FB.
What would that thing make with the Boost turned up I mean s*** of 408 with a big ass turbo like that should be making a thousand horsepower easily
It will easily crack past 1200 with that turbo. I have been there tuned that on a lesser of a motor
Seems to be perfect where it's at for a reliable workhorse!
You need some air bags on the rear
I wish the background music wasn’t in the riding test part of video
What are the ring gaps set at?
Nice.. big inches ls motor and a camshaft spec for low rpm torque. Or even go bigger with gen7 gasser Big block with turbo. I know you can't beat low low rpm diesel. But try as much a possible for low rpm and low boost torque on a gasser. Don't even think about hp. I like to see any body would try that. For towing high rpm not good. Only for fun and short distance its ok, or showing off ur truck.
I have a 2011 Silverado 2500HD 4x4 with the iron block 6.0, I'm researching putting a cam / long tube headers / twin screw supercharger to achieve this type of power to tow my 12k RV. Thoughts?
I'm also curious as to what mpg this turbo gasser is getting towing this load?
It's just hard to justify supercharger money when you can literally turbo a truck for half the cost. Even less than half if you fab up your own merge using the stock exhaust manifolds etc. Heat management with a screw blower is another issue. I can imagine IAT's towing with one would be pretty spicy. Those sandwich type intercoolers work well. But they're expensive as hell and make the SC sit really high up. As for fuel mileage I can imagine it's not great. I'd be surprised if it's getting 10 mpg once it gets into boost.
Agreed with the other guy, turbo setup is cheaper and imo better optimized for heavy loads. S/c is rpm dependent but turbo is load dependent. Both will make major torque but the turbo is kind of more fluid and wont be as inefficient at low load/light cruising.
@@FastPaull , something to ponder.
@@FastPaull hell, I'd be happy with 10 MPG with my stock 2004 2500 6.0L silverado.
I’m thinking about boosting my 2500hd and trying to figure out what turbo to go with. I’ll pull at most 8500lbs maybe 10 times a year. It’s my daily and might drive 15 miles a day.
We are Bullseye turbo dealers and would be more then happy to go over your options. Give us a call, email, or message us on facebook!
Stage 2 summit cam and a S475. Keep the stock stall. Stock 862 heads from a 4.8 if you want cheap factory power.
@@Scramspeed where are you guys located?
why did you say keep stock stall?
@@zackariacherif1078 helps keep Temps down on the transmission
I have been wondering, did this make 650whp on the _stock_ converter w/ setrab cooler, or did you buy a converter as well?
It's a custom billet triple disc from jakes performance
@@shwab8what converter is it? 310mm or 265 and what stall speed?
@@jacobwortman916 i can't remember. I called them and told them what my goals were and they built it to suit.
Exhaust video please.
Jesus that would be so damn sick. I tow 6-12k+ daily in my 04 2500hd 6.0 and I'm dying for more power. I see the Duramax radiator and intercooler, but how does it run with those e-fans?
How well does it do pulling more than its factory rates for at 12k? Mine is an 07 classic regular cab 2wd 6.0/4l80e with a 4.10 gear. Only rated at 10k. The 2wd reg cab has the highest towing capacity out of all the body styles. More the truck weighs, just subtracts from gvw. 16k gvw for these trucks.
@@dickbrugh5562 That's just the factory rating. I've pulled 12k with a 03 extra cab 2wd 4.8L/4L60E, 3.73 gear. Just had brake controller, 10 ply load e tires, air shocks in the rear and hitch with anti sway control bar. That's about 3 or 4k more than the factory rating with the small LS and weak transmission, small brakes and small rear axle. Didn't go down mountains but did several 800 mile round trips along the I-10 and changed the trans fluid more often.
I have a 2006, 6.0 Silverado basically stock besides a cold air intake and a tuner. I want to do this to my truck but still be able to use it for truck stuff like towing a heavy trailer or run through a mud hole. Would I still be able to do these things if I souped it up like this?
Chose a setup that makes power down low.
Stick to a truck cam, i think texas speed's stage 2 truck cam is the most you can go before it sacrafices low down torque and still makes more power up top when youre not pulling something. Pair it with a smaller turbo, something that spools quick down low but dosent choke out when youre really reving it out.
Youre not going to make as much power as someone who went balls to the wall but itll make useable power down low and still be a lot faster than it used to be.
BTR truck Norris with whatever turbo. I just know that cam will be awesome with an application like this
Id love too know how you came up with the truck weight mentioned in the video.
Truck is right around 6k. It had about 800-1000lbs of salt in the bed. Truck was 6940lbs, trailer 5660lbs, skid 9900lbs. Truck+trailer=12,000lbs
Trailer+skid=15,560lbs
Truck+trailer+skid=22,500lbs
The real question how much did that cost
Nice. I wonder what cam did he go with?
Custom BTR cam for the setup.
Hopefully you can answer my question... I'm getting ready to drop a lq9 into my 94 chevy ext cab... what trans do you have in it and did you do any cam n head work to the motor? And where did you get your radiator?
Yes, it has aftermarket cam and heads. I don't recall on the radiator, I will look int it!
4l80 more than likely. I have a procharger on my 2500. Pass everything by the gas station
Sorry for sleeping on this, it has a built 4L80 transmission.
I have a question. Where does the exhaust coming from the turbo get routed to. It looks really tight on the passenger side. I’m doing the same kind of setup with my suburban 2500 and the engine bay fills up fast.
Where the factory manifold would connect to exhaust.
Some one needs to make a detailed version of how to install a turbo
It’s been done a million times
this thing would love a fifth wheel
Yep, but I think he needs the bed free for snowplow duty.
What kind of mileage is he pulling down like that🤔...maybe you could ask the owner for all interested!
I don't have enough money for cars and trucks and ATV,etc...but I can do a truck motor.😁
What stall
Speed ?
Time to change the plugs running that fat 😂
I’m either doing this or a supercharger for my 2010 suburban 2500. Which would be better for towing, and why?
Supercharger would likely be cheaper and easier, and give good low end power. You'd be paying for it in gas mileage though. I'd personally go turbo
The residual draw is not worth it
I'd like to see a video of that thing empty
That's ridiculous. Did Matt beef the trans aswell?
Yes it currently has a Jakes 4L80E that has been treating him very well. Only hickup we had was trans temps due to the converter. Had to install a massive setrab cooler and it seemed to do the trick.
He doesn't best on it but it definitely is a work horse....
@@Scramspeed Do you know what cooler he went with?
How much converter does he have here?
Where did you get 6940 for the truck? Single cab 2500 6.0 should be closer to 5300-5400 full fluids maybe 5600 with added weight of turbo setup and gooseneck
The owner of the truck detailed all the weights of the truck, trailer and cargo in a previous question.
"Truck is right around 6k. It had about 800-1000lbs of salt in the bed. Truck was 6940lbs, trailer 5660lbs, skid 9900lbs. Truck+trailer=12,000lbs
Trailer+skid=15,560lbs
Truck+trailer+skid=22,500lbs"
@@Scramspeed Well scale was weigh off or he had something else going on because nearly 7k lbs for a single cab 2500 is way off. Even a 2500 Suburban is going to weigh maybe 6k.
A 1500 will weigh about 4500 lbs and the main differences between a 1500 and 2500 is the rear axle (about 200 lbs heavier), more leaf springs (no more than 60 lbs) the driveshaft (15 lbs), a 4L85E trans (85 lbs heavier) and front end about another 100-200 lbs, radiator and HD cooling maybe another 25 lbs.
"It had about 800-1000lbs of salt in the bed" Boom
When u say pump gas do u mean 93 or 87 I think it means 93 but just curious
93
What is the fuel economy like with that setup? Does it suck down a lot of gas?
Well, I know fuel economy is largely dependent on driving habits. Lets just say mileage probably isn't as good as it could be.
Nice parts probably make 1000 if u wanted to
Its tuned for the winter plow season. When the weather turns for good we will see what it makes on E85 and more booooost.
How difficult was it to tune for towing ?
Not any more difficult or time consuming than typical swap stuff. It had a few teething problems like every serious custom build does, but nothing major.
Hey I’d like to know somewhere I can contact you I’m looking into doing a build just like this
Message or call Scram Speed
Being its a truck used to tow im interested in the torque on this setup. Anyone have any idea???
If I had to throw a number at it I'd say somewhere around 700 to the wheels.
It made right around 650rwtq on 12psi. The heavier the load the more load the turbo has. In this video it drives a lot like a diesel. About quarter throttle and its at psi pulling that much weight. Once up to speed it's back in vacuum driving like stock.
Cool build but he is probably getting 6mpg on a good day and gonna have no longevity
You have no idea what you're talking about. The setup is built specifically for what it has.
Forged internals, etc.
People with clean, well put together combos, like this, know what they're doing and know who to reach out to to further back what they're doing.
You could tell what kind of build it was when he opened that hood and again when he did that pull to 70. @lucaparrillo6474
What afr heads were they?
afr 225 mongoose heads
Seems like it would be better for towing with a stock truck or TBSS intake manifold.
Customer did not want too much torque down low. When it has the plow on the front and salt spreader on the back he had concerns about just spinning immediately when trying to push snow. Decided to keep a higher RPM intake to keep the torque soft in the lower RPM area.
Little late but is he spraying water/meth? How do you keep it cool enough pulling that much weight?
No meth on this truck. He has an intercooler from a duramax truck to keep the IATs cool.
@@Scramspeed would you say that intercooler is a reliable route for someone turboing a 3/4 ton 6.0 truck that does haul?
@@jaxonrickman5097 Well, he has been driving this truck for quote some time. Pulling and plowing with it, with no issues. In this case I would say definitely yes.
@@Scramspeed thank you for responding so quickly!
What is the exhaust on this truck
This is a custom 4" stainless setup we did for him.
do you have a full mods list, i’m looking at running a very similar set up in my truck
408, afr 225s, 10.5cr, holley Hiram, jakes stage 4 80e/ billet triple disc, 450 pumps, ID1050x injectors, Bullseye turbo, scram speed custom turbo kit, Efans, duramax intercooler/radiator, duramax 5" exaust.
@@shwab8 , is that a 408 stroker built motor?
@@timphilmon8573 yes, started as a stock 6.0. Now has forged rods, pistons, and crank with AFR cnc ported heads. Engine is 10.5 to 1 compression ratio
@shwab8 , I'm looking at dropping a 408 in my 2011 Silverado. But, with a Whipple supercharger. Have you checked your overall mpg when towing?
@@timphilmon8573 I don't really keep track of it. I'd say 6-8 in stop and go pulling a trailer. Obviously how much weight your pulling is going to change it also. I've got a heavy foot so that doesn't help either. Once you get up to speed and the convertor locks it drives pretty normal!
You would be much better off using the stock intake manifold if you're towing with that setup. Probably losing 80-100 ftlbs in the mid range with that short runner stuff. It's been proven time and time again those manifolds don't produce hardly any gains until 6k+. Now if it's just for looks, then whatever. LS3 intake manifold or a FAST manifold is by far the best choice for 90% of people.
He didn't want to much torque down low. He wanted more up top.
@@allanb3222 More torque up top? He isn't towing at 5500 RPM. When you're towing, you're lugging the engine, you're nowhere near the efficiency range of that short runner intake manifold. I doubt the camshaft is even correct for that style of intake manifold.
@@FastPaull He wanted more Hp up top like he stated. Not torque.
Runner length doesn't matter much when boost is involved.
@@travishanson166 lmao yes it does. Go watch any Richard holdener video
What kind of gas mileage?
The owner said "Depends how you drive it". Not many. We did not build this truck for mpg.
What transmission is he running?
4L80e
Where are you guys located
Mahomet Illinois
What cam does it have?
Custom BTR cam
we all know this stuff exists.....we need prices
I’m shocked you were getting 6940 for truck weight. My 2005 crew cab short bed diesel SRW weighs about 7100 with a 50 gallons of fuel and me in it.
truck had 1k lbs of salt in the bed. 2 passengers plus 1k salt, truck probably sits around 56-5700. pretty close to stock.
The truck weighs right at 6k with me in it. It had around 800-1k of salt in the back during the video.
There was gear in the bed, that added additional weight to the truck.
@@shwab8
6k for a 2500hd single cab short bed? Find a new scale.
@8SecSleeper they don't make a regular cab short bed 2500hd just FYI. Toolbox full of stuff is couple hundred pounds. Plow bracket is a 100lbs. The turbo itself is probably 50+lbs. Has a big intercooler.... this isn't a stock truck at stock weight. It's also 4x4 if you happen to miss that too.
Badass man is it a built 4L80E or turbo 400
Looks like you have a methanol set up to that's badass man
Don't trust Efans 5:49 but if you got the right setup it would wo r k
It's a 4L80e. Its a great build.
What gear you have
4.10
T4 turbo with the 408 stroker?
Yes
@@shwab8 how quickly does it spool?
Depends on how much weight it has behind it. If it's just the truck it has some lag. With the weight of the trailer in the video, it's basically instant.
4x4 or 2WD?
4x4
The high ram seems like a bad choice and just extra unnecessary money the factory would probably be better everywhere below like 5 grand for no money extra but at those power numbers the stroker was unnecessary its not like its going to make it any more reliable and its not like its going to make much of a difference with the turbo if its not way to big which if its making 650 i assume its not
The customer specifically wanted the high ram to knock some torque out of the bottom end. Half the year this truck has a snow plow and salt spreader attached. He claims it is nicer to push snow with something that doesn't make instant torque to just spin the tires. Plus it looks way cooler.
@Scramspeed it's his money
What the mpg daily driving?
Keep your foot out of it 12mpg. Like the sound of the turbo... 8mpg
Mpg lol
I just need to know the cost
Cost the same as a buying brand new regular cab 4x4 2500 gas truck.
@@shwab8 An engine build like this is not more than a 40k truck. 😆
@@allanb3222 I was referring to duplicating the truck. Didn't realize he was talking about just the engine.
That skidsteer weighs 9990 lbs
Yeah and the trailer is probably close to 3k
I have a gooseneck 24ft it weighs 5,600lbs
Time to get rid of the diesel.
Yeah who say gas can't pull
No doubt!!
I’m doing just that! Lol I have an lbz duramax, but I just bought a 6.0 truck to turbocharge that’ll replace the lbz. Diesels are just to expensive to maintain in my opinion.
Hell no....that thing will never outlast or out pull a diesel, especially doing it efficiently. Diesels are way more robust and provide that torque you want way down low, but to each their own.👍
@@2015_Rubicnn 120k mile one owner truck, one month after I bought it from the original owner it needed a full set of injectors that cost me over $5k. I can build a complete 6.0 lq4 for that price. Lol
2:32 music was annoying but at least it wasn’t obnoxiously annoying
Every time i see a dodge or ford the squat factor is alot more 🤣
OMG CUT THE MUSIC WHEN IT'S DOING PULLS 😡
You can build them gas engines in them trucks to handle them loads who says you have to have a diesel to do everything and especially when diesel engines are more expensive to work on pickup class not 🚛🚫
That trailer don’t weigh 12,000 lbs lol
Truck is right around 6k. It had about 800-1000lbs of salt in the bed. Truck was 6940lbs, trailer 5660lbs, skid 9900lbs. Truck+trailer=12,000lbs
Trailer+skid=15,560lbs
Truck+trailer+skid=22,500lbs
Won’t last long 😂
No I won't say that you have to also understand they were using Big blocks back in the day for buses and dump trucks and duallys back then a lot of them had gas 396 or 454 Big blocks in they were pretty rugged and last a long time in can take a beating. for instance my uncle had a Chevy Silverado 96 with a big block in it that thing pulled a three car hauler like it wasn't nothing the engine was rebuilt but it was pretty strong. The only thing a diesel may have advantage is torque in gas consumption you take that turbo off of it it's just like a gas motor. Turbo gas big block like a 454 or 502 it's a different ball game when it comes to the pickup truck class
@@williegohard1368 none were boosted either, like I said won’t last long not to mention I pull that with an f150 lol
@@freedomisntfree_44 yeah but if he was pulling a heavy load with it all the time of course it won't last long but just lollygagging with it like a daily driver pulling heavy here and there I don't think it would bother it at all if he's not hard on it
Not to mention it could be stock internal so imagine that he was to build the bottom end to handle that it would last even longer
I think you a diesel fan
I hold trailers for fema After katrina, , After gas expenses, I made three dollars and fifty cents an hour. The guy's driving diesel trucks slept at a hotel. I slept after I ran out of gas money.
Hey I dont know if you will see this comment, your ignition is shorting out on your power gate , you can see it arcing in video on the Allen head bolt
Went back and looked and yep at 1:33 of video....that's gonna light someone up who ever touches that
Thanks, we will pass this along to the owner.
@@Scramspeed no problem
A diesel doesn’t stand a chance against a turbo LS period. They will absolutely stroll loaded or top end