renjun, out of nowhere with a very strong chinese accent all of a sudden: i'm a foreigner. korean is hard for me. you should help me because i'm a foreigner
!! so Renjun is from one of China’s 56 ethnic groups called Chaoxianzu (people whose ancestors were Koreans that migrated to china a long time ago; the history chaoxianzu is a bit complicated to explain but it goes all the way back to the Qing dynasty era). He attended a dual language school learning both kr and Chinese. The Korean language that Chaoxiaozu uses has become unique to itself through time so It has many many differences to the standard kr language spoken in sk today (e.g pronunciations, English loanwords etc). Thus, he had to relearn a lot of those things which was very difficult and he talked about it on his radio show. Hopefully, this explains why he’s familiar with many of the old school korean tv shows and songs :)
renjun: *did the tongue twister* haechan: *”dude you’re wrong!”* me: *”lmao haechan really thought he was right-“* the staff: *”yeah haechan was right”* me and everyone watching: 👁👄👁 wHat iF hAecHan iS cHinEsE?! *inserts clown sounds*
I love all the stories about his grandmother and how he was watching korean dramas with her when he was younger. That's one of the reason why he knows so many old Korean (considering his age) stuffs (songs or dramas), thanks to his grandmother. It's so cute! He certainly knows more things than all his Korean members in Dream. Chenle is also doing such a great job too. At this point both of them are Korean!
@@_ThuNgan_B renjun actually lived in jilin, china which is near with korea.. so people that live there usually can speak korean and chinese if i’m wrong, anyone please correct me cuz i’m also not sure with this information
off topic but i love how close renjun is with his grandmother. just imagine, a small renjun sitting besides his grandmother watching old korean dramas. _i'm soft_
Idk a lot about his history with Korean but it’s super impressive that he is able to speak Korean to his fluency if his only connection to the language prior to going to Korea was his grandmother. I’ve seen a lot of kids who have been basically singlehandedly raised by their grandparents that don’t speak English (dominant language in the US), but still are unable to express themselves past a beginner level in their grandmother’s tongue. They’ll understand, for example, Spanish but would be unable to actually speak it since they would just respond in English. It’s really interesting that he clearly spoke to his grandmother in Korean even though his surroundings didn’t prioritize Korean, which is something most kids aren’t encouraged to do and end up falling back on whats “easy.”
@@chaeyoungsbestie414 it definitely helped that he was into kpop and hallyu I'm Korean-American and I wouldn't speak Korean at such fluency without having consistently listened to korean songs and videos
@@yenny_s that’s definitely true! I wish media from my parent’s country was as robust and varied as Korean media tbh, I think I’d speak my mother tongue more fluently than I do now if that were the case.
@@chaeyoungsbestie414 Tips if Renjun still at school , he will test 3 languages ( Chinese - National language , Korean - Native tongue and English - Foreign language) in College Entrance Examination of China.
3:59 No, but when CZcams compilers do this thing where Renjun's flag flickers from Chinese to Korean when he's explaining something or struggling is so hilarious, tho; you can see how he grew up bilingual and more or less bicultural
nobody in the comments has mentioned this so far, so i will: renjun is part of an ethnic minority in China: Chaoxianzu. These are the descendants of ethnic Koreans who migrated into China anywhere from 645 CE to now. renjun grew up bilingual in a Chinese province just North of North Korea (which is why there were speculations he was north korean around his debut bc his korean accent aligned more with north korea than south korea) and he went to a school for Chaoxianzu children (hence the pictures of little renjun in a hanbok). there is a bit of a tricky history with south korea and the chaoxianzu people labelling themselves as korean, as they aren’t really korean: they’re a chinese minority with korean blood, they celebrate both korean and chinese parts of culture. I would be careful about calling him more “korean” than other members because of this. his chaoxianzu heritage is very beautiful and a part of him, and we should respect that he would know different korean media and knowledge than his south korean members and Chenle (who is literally from one of the largest chinese cities).
I’m not sure what you mean by their ‘accent’ aligns more with NK. The Korean language that Chaoxiaozu uses has become unique to itself through time. It is influenced by both the standard language of South Korea and NK, and has Chinese characteristics at the same time. Also that rumour was spread with malicious intent so I wouldn’t say that’s the reason because it’s not :/
Ooh so he’s Chinese but with Korean blood? So like his ancestors came from Korea but as they lived in China where they had kids with full Chinese people so that would be why he’s Chinese and not Korean? He’s a Chinese person but with some Korean blood? That’s cool I think I can kinda understand because my step dad is Mexican (so am I) but he’s a different type of Mexican because he has some asian blood in him but he’s Mexican it’s just his type of Mexican is a descendant of asians (not sure which ones) but he’s Mexican
So basically lots of people immigrated to China from Korea during Japanese occupation to avoid persecution so the history is not that long (It depends but normally early 1900). On top of that, their accent is apparently more related to North Korean accent rather than South due to geographical reason. I don’t know if he is fully JoseonJok(Korean Chinese) but that’s why he is way more familiar with Korean language and culture. He is just in minority group in China so his nationality is China.
@@user-fl7el5nf9t noo the history of Chaoxianzu goes way back to the Qing Dynasty era or even before. Yes, many Koreans did immigrate to China during the Japanese occupation but that’s not the origin of Chaoxianzu.
haha so Renjun is actually from one of China’s 56 ethnic groups called Chaoxianzu (people whose ancestors were Koreans that migrated to china a long time ago; the history chaoxianzu is a bit complicated to explain but it goes all the way back to the Qing dynasty era). He attended a dual language school learning both kr and Chinese. The Korean language that Chaoxiaozu uses has become unique to itself through time so It has many many differences to the standard kr language spoken in sk today (e.g pronunciations, English loanwords etc). Thus, he had to relearn a lot of those things which was very difficult and he talked about it on his radio show. Hopefully, this explains why he’s familiar with many of the old school korean tv shows and songs :)
RenJun speaks Korean and knows the korean language and korean culture even before he moved to South Korea and even before SM recruited him... His from Jilin province of China which is where the majority of Chaoxianzu resides, their a Korean ethic group or Chinese minority group from Korean descent that's been living there in Jilin province of China for a couple hundred years, their considered Chinese nationals or Chinese citizens but with Korean ancestry or roots and because of this they were able to preserve their Korean culture and korean language even though they've been residing in China for hundreds of years.. Hence the explanation of RenJun saying that he grew up with his grandmother that's why he speaks old Korean, which is kind of similar to the North Korean dialect but not the same... Thats why out of the foreign members of NCT, RenJun was the most fluent in Hangul/korean language even during debut years..
renjun really is so fluent with korean and its culture (except for spelling probably bc of how many times the members corrected him lmao) and im so amazed how smooth he transitions between two languages whenever he have to. his english seems to be improving everyday too. chenle is also a fast learner.
same. he seems to know many things. and remember it well, despite korean isnt his mother language. from ost, trot, movie, drama, etc. even I cant slightly remember any movie or drama that I watched when I was a kid. lmao.
@@lizgu8474 No, there literally is a rule that the 4th tone turns into something similar to the 2nd tone when there's another 4th tone afterwards. So it's pronounced more like "sì shí sì" just like Renjun said correctly, not "sì shì sì" like Haechan said, even though the word alone is pronounced "shì". At least that's what I learned in Chinese linguistic class, so I guess Renjun learned the same🤷♀️
Actually, Renjun was right with the explanation of the Chinese tongue twister and the staff (and Haechan) were wrong. Two 4th tones after one another turns the first into a 2nd tone, just like Renjun did. So Haechan, I'm sorry, you can't claim your Chinese citizenship just yet ;)
The bit about renjun reading chinese wrong, there is a rule that if there are two consecutive fourth tone then the first one become second tone. He is right. Seems like that situation was just confusion
as a person who speaks mandarin, renjun is right though. when a word with a fourth tone is followed by another fourth tone, the tone of the first word will change to the second one. great example of this the word ‘goodbye’ or ‘zài jiàn’ in pinyin. when you spell it they are both in fourth tone but when you say the word it becomes ‘zái jiàn’ plus it makes it look weird saying both syllables in fourth tone sequentially as they are both pronounced forcefully down(?)
thats what i thought! lol, i dont speak it fluently at all but i used to take lessons and i remember learning tone change rules or something. omg, poor renjun XD i felt bad for him. did they think it was wrong because its what natives do to sound more natural and more an "optional" thing to do? i know there are some tone changes that you HAVE to do, and others its up to you if you want to but even if you dont its still understandable? is the way haechan said it just completely incomprhensionable or does it just sound a little awkward to you?. anyway, rip renjun XD at least we know XD
@@dianabanana7394 I'm a chinese and I only change tone when its both in the third tone hahaha I've nvr heard of change to 2nd tone if it's both in 4th tone as well XD
I too use random accents in my daily life, and made my friends confused on why do I switch to different accents in one day. I can change them according to my mood.
Renjun learn korean in such a young age..he said he learn korean when his grandmother watch kdramas right? That's mean he must be around 5~6 years, that is the age where kid can remember anything they learnt. Thats why renjun can easily mastered korean, and even knew old kpop songs. Meanwhile, Chenle learnt korean when he entered SM so he is a bit slow but look at him now so SAVAGE 😂😂😂😂
Growing up with his grandma really strengthen his knowledge in korean pop culture and it esp shows when he's with the other korean members who sometimes doesnt get some of his old references lol
He's also from a part of china, jilin that borders north korea and has a decent sized korean population. So thats prolly why his grandma would watch kdramas on tv and why he was immersed in korean culture even before coming to korea.
I know this is not the topic of this video but I am always amazed by how amazing renjun's voice is. I repeated all the parts where he sang because his vocals are just so amazing
i just need you to know how much i LOVE your videos !! like ever since ive found them ive been trying to find any other kpop channel that brings me as much joy but i just can’t find one, yours are just the best !!!
still cant move on where renjun explains a korean slang at a pure korean huhu and when he speaks dialects and where he went to an amusement park, even thou his korean member haven't yet gotten inside that park lol and many more :>
i think it's one of the reasons i can relate to renjun so much because even if i'm not chinese korean like him, i'm korean american so even if i'm fluent and know a lot of stuff my spelling and grammar will be incorrect at times and korean ppl are shocked at how fluent i am LOL.... anyways renjun ily you are amazing
It's really possible and cnetz also think so. His past school was Korean Ethnicity School in Jilin and since it most likely ethnicity-based school, he probably indeed have korean blood at least from one of his parents. His name also translated flawlessly to korean name : Huang Renjun 》Hwang Injoon and i read somewhere that's because his parents knows what they did when naming him 😅😂
I am Chinese. Renjun’s grandma also is CHINESE. Renjun’s clan is Korean nation. And China has 56 nations. Renjun is Chinese but he is Korean nation. Do you understand？
In China, there is a nation called "Chaoxian nation (Korean/Joseon nation)". In the Ming Dynasty, some Joseon people lived in China. Because Korea was a subsidiary state of China in ancient times, Joseon people existed in Northeast China in Ming Dynasty and Qing Dynasty. During the war at the beginning of last century, many North and South Koreans fled to China for refuge. At the end of last century, there was famine in North Korea, and many people fled to China.
There are 56 ethnic groups in China. But our national identity is very strong. Even in Inner Mongolia, Inner Mongolian don't think they belong to Mongolia（country）. They will only think that they are "Mongol Chinese", just like "Han Chinese". It's just that there are two mother tongues.
@@SEBASTIAN-lw6ib Okay thank you elaborating!! But I have a question does that mean a lot of people from his clan speak both mandarin and korean? I believe the Ming dynasty ended in 1912 which could be a possibility of them speaking korean? And sorry didn't want to offend anyone
WAIT THAT'S MARRY YOU AS THE ENDING CARD SONG ;; BLESS YOU Renjun bouncing between being super competent in Korean and messing up in Korean is bilingual culture tbh. Honestly, the fact that he knows all of these old songs is kind of amazing, and I didn't know that Renjun sung Love Battery before. ;; Hong Jinyoung is my favourite trot artist, and I got so happy when I heard Jeno sing "Thumbs Up" before, so I'm glad to be receiving these crumbs.
Can we just mention how I a middle schooler who is Asian American (not Korean) knows the songs and the lyrics to the songs he sang at his radio (My grammar sucks)
The reason why he is good at Korean and knows about Korean culture is because he is Joseon-jok. Joseon-jok is a Chinese with Korean blood They are Chinese, but they speak Korean
isn't Renjun like ethnically Korean too? I heard way back pre-debut that the area he lives in has a lot of ethnically Korean people (usually from North Korea over the border) and could explain why his grandma's Korean is old/dialectical
so Renjun is from one of China’s 56 ethnic groups called Chaoxianzu (people whose ancestors were Koreans that migrated to china a long time ago; the history chaoxianzu is a bit complicated to explain but it goes all the way back to the Qing dynasty era). He attended a dual language school learning both kr and Chinese. The Korean language that Chaoxiaozu uses has become unique to itself through time so It has many many differences to the standard kr language spoken in sk today (e.g pronunciations, English loanwords etc). Thus, he had to relearn a lot of those things which was very difficult and he talked about it on his radio show. Hopefully, this explains why he’s familiar with many of the old school korean tv shows and songs :)
(I’ve accidentally added the clip at 4:13 in twice, so ignore when it repeats itself at 5:21 as well :)
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I thought you mean the group twice I was waiting for it lmao
Thank you so much
Also Renjun, in perfect Korean: Korean is difficult, I'm a foreigner
Sometimes he'll even purposely put on an accent that definitely wasn't there before
* with heavy accent* 난 한국어로 못하잖아-
Hey if I could play that card, I would!
renjun, out of nowhere with a very strong chinese accent all of a sudden: i'm a foreigner. korean is hard for me. you should help me because i'm a foreigner
the conclusion is : renjun is a korean and haechan is a chinnese
renjun is actually chaoxianzu which is an ethnic minority in china descended from korean migrants.
!! so Renjun is from one of China’s 56 ethnic groups called Chaoxianzu (people whose ancestors were Koreans that migrated to china a long time ago; the history chaoxianzu is a bit complicated to explain but it goes all the way back to the Qing dynasty era). He attended a dual language school learning both kr and Chinese. The Korean language that Chaoxiaozu uses has become unique to itself through time so It has many many differences to the standard kr language spoken in sk today (e.g pronunciations, English loanwords etc). Thus, he had to relearn a lot of those things which was very difficult and he talked about it on his radio show. Hopefully, this explains why he’s familiar with many of the old school korean tv shows and songs :)
Since Renjun was actually right and Haechan was wrong about the Chinese tongue twister, Renjun gets to keep his Chinese citizenship ;)
@@haechansabeoji I thought they lived there for thousands of years and not Korean immigrants but ethnic Koreans who live in china.
@@cocaineminor4420 Yes, that's true, but the majority of Koreans in China today are relatively recent immigrants.
This is the same renjun that says he's a foreign member to avoid answering questions in interviews.
That's so fucking smart
id do the same thing, sometimes these interview questions are awkward
renjun: speaks fluent korean
*minor inconvenience happened*
renjun: idk what is korean anymore
haechan:
speaks chineese
wearing usa flag
hair looks like japan’s flag
is korean
It's Haechan there is nothing that can be done about it
Our man's global
@@yourspritzels PERIODT.
literally mr worldwide
i love how this is an on-going series but also a lot of moments before are unfolded
renjun: *did the tongue twister*
haechan: *”dude you’re wrong!”*
me: *”lmao haechan really thought he was right-“*
the staff: *”yeah haechan was right”*
me and everyone watching: 👁👄👁
wHat iF hAecHan iS cHinEsE?! *inserts clown sounds*
That would make a lot of sense though
Haechan is just hella smart 😌
@@suzycloud a genius indeed 🙃
@@suzycloud ikr I'm always taken aback
@@suzycloud true words
renjun: almost like a Korean citizen
also renjun: using the "i'm a foreigner" card on daily basis 😂
I love all the stories about his grandmother and how he was watching korean dramas with her when he was younger. That's one of the reason why he knows so many old Korean (considering his age) stuffs (songs or dramas), thanks to his grandmother. It's so cute!
He certainly knows more things than all his Korean members in Dream.
Chenle is also doing such a great job too. At this point both of them are Korean!
i stan renjun’s grandma🥺
@@markleeinthehouseyo yes🥺
wait his grandma is korean ? But hes chinnese ???
@@_ThuNgan_B renjun actually lived in jilin, china which is near with korea.. so people that live there usually can speak korean and chinese
if i’m wrong, anyone please correct me cuz i’m also not sure with this information
@@xzzkat ouhhh *nOw i KnOw~ nOw i kNoW~* ✨ thanks for the explaination!!
off topic but i love how close renjun is with his grandmother. just imagine, a small renjun sitting besides his grandmother watching old korean dramas. _i'm soft_
Idk a lot about his history with Korean but it’s super impressive that he is able to speak Korean to his fluency if his only connection to the language prior to going to Korea was his grandmother. I’ve seen a lot of kids who have been basically singlehandedly raised by their grandparents that don’t speak English (dominant language in the US), but still are unable to express themselves past a beginner level in their grandmother’s tongue. They’ll understand, for example, Spanish but would be unable to actually speak it since they would just respond in English.
It’s really interesting that he clearly spoke to his grandmother in Korean even though his surroundings didn’t prioritize Korean, which is something most kids aren’t encouraged to do and end up falling back on whats “easy.”
@@chaeyoungsbestie414 it definitely helped that he was into kpop and hallyu
I'm Korean-American and I wouldn't speak Korean at such fluency without having consistently listened to korean songs and videos
@@yenny_s that’s definitely true! I wish media from my parent’s country was as robust and varied as Korean media tbh, I think I’d speak my mother tongue more fluently than I do now if that were the case.
@@chaeyoungsbestie414 Tips if Renjun still at school , he will test 3 languages ( Chinese - National language , Korean - Native tongue and English - Foreign language) in College Entrance Examination of China.
🤗🤗omg I'm imaging it
Legend says Chenle is still asking Renjun what song he's singing
Lol
at this point he and chenle are the korean members and the others are foreigners
alternative title:
✨ *welcome to another episode of renjun=korean while dreamies=foreigners* ✨
We all know that renjun only becomes a chinese when someone asks him to do something against his will 😌
So truueee😂😂
_i'm A f0reigNer, korEan iS hArd for mE_
3:59 No, but when CZcams compilers do this thing where Renjun's flag flickers from Chinese to Korean when he's explaining something or struggling is so hilarious, tho; you can see how he grew up bilingual and more or less bicultural
nobody in the comments has mentioned this so far, so i will:
renjun is part of an ethnic minority in China: Chaoxianzu. These are the descendants of ethnic Koreans who migrated into China anywhere from 645 CE to now. renjun grew up bilingual in a Chinese province just North of North Korea (which is why there were speculations he was north korean around his debut bc his korean accent aligned more with north korea than south korea) and he went to a school for Chaoxianzu children (hence the pictures of little renjun in a hanbok). there is a bit of a tricky history with south korea and the chaoxianzu people labelling themselves as korean, as they aren’t really korean: they’re a chinese minority with korean blood, they celebrate both korean and chinese parts of culture.
I would be careful about calling him more “korean” than other members because of this. his chaoxianzu heritage is very beautiful and a part of him, and we should respect that he would know different korean media and knowledge than his south korean members and Chenle (who is literally from one of the largest chinese cities).
I’m not sure what you mean by their ‘accent’ aligns more with NK. The Korean language that Chaoxiaozu uses has become unique to itself through time. It is influenced by both the standard language of South Korea and NK, and has Chinese characteristics at the same time. Also that rumour was spread with malicious intent so I wouldn’t say that’s the reason because it’s not :/
Also just fyi, Korean immigrants who move from Korea to China now are not considered a part of Chaoxianzu, they’re just immigrants 😭
Ooh so he’s Chinese but with Korean blood? So like his ancestors came from Korea but as they lived in China where they had kids with full Chinese people so that would be why he’s Chinese and not Korean? He’s a Chinese person but with some Korean blood? That’s cool I think I can kinda understand because my step dad is Mexican (so am I) but he’s a different type of Mexican because he has some asian blood in him but he’s Mexican it’s just his type of Mexican is a descendant of asians (not sure which ones) but he’s Mexican
So basically lots of people immigrated to China from Korea during Japanese occupation to avoid persecution so the history is not that long (It depends but normally early 1900). On top of that, their accent is apparently more related to North Korean accent rather than South due to geographical reason. I don’t know if he is fully JoseonJok(Korean Chinese) but that’s why he is way more familiar with Korean language and culture.
He is just in minority group in China so his nationality is China.
@@user-fl7el5nf9t noo the history of Chaoxianzu goes way back to the Qing Dynasty era or even before. Yes, many Koreans did immigrate to China during the Japanese occupation but that’s not the origin of Chaoxianzu.
renjun is korean by heart he just doesn't know it
haha so Renjun is actually from one of China’s 56 ethnic groups called Chaoxianzu (people whose ancestors were Koreans that migrated to china a long time ago; the history chaoxianzu is a bit complicated to explain but it goes all the way back to the Qing dynasty era). He attended a dual language school learning both kr and Chinese. The Korean language that Chaoxiaozu uses has become unique to itself through time so It has many many differences to the standard kr language spoken in sk today (e.g pronunciations, English loanwords etc). Thus, he had to relearn a lot of those things which was very difficult and he talked about it on his radio show. Hopefully, this explains why he’s familiar with many of the old school korean tv shows and songs :)
He truly is Korean (ethically speaking
RenJun speaks Korean and knows the korean language and korean culture even before he moved to South Korea and even before SM recruited him... His from Jilin province of China which is where the majority of Chaoxianzu resides, their a Korean ethic group or Chinese minority group from Korean descent that's been living there in Jilin province of China for a couple hundred years, their considered Chinese nationals or Chinese citizens but with Korean ancestry or roots and because of this they were able to preserve their Korean culture and korean language even though they've been residing in China for hundreds of years.. Hence the explanation of RenJun saying that he grew up with his grandmother that's why he speaks old Korean, which is kind of similar to the North Korean dialect but not the same... Thats why out of the foreign members of NCT, RenJun was the most fluent in Hangul/korean language even during debut years..
I was gonna say this but I'm glad you beat me to it
Renjun is a Korean who is good at speaking Chinese
renjun really is so fluent with korean and its culture (except for spelling probably bc of how many times the members corrected him lmao) and im so amazed how smooth he transitions between two languages whenever he have to. his english seems to be improving everyday too. chenle is also a fast learner.
i'm just wondering how many dramas and movies renjun has watched at this point
same.
he seems to know many things. and remember it well, despite korean isnt his mother language. from ost, trot, movie, drama, etc.
even I cant slightly remember any movie or drama that I watched when I was a kid. lmao.
the tongue twister part irks me bc renjun was right, two 4th tones in a row become one 2nd and one 4th
Really? I thought that was only if it's the same word. But I'm Chinese American so I might just not know this.
isn't it two 3th tone XDDDD
coincidence. renjun is actually korean and haechan is actually chinese.
*SOUL. MATES.*
Haechan knows everything...
Lol. But in all seriousness, Renjun was actually correct in the explanation of the tongue twister and Haechan was wrong.
@@mieberggaard NO, actually , Renjun mixed up the pronunciation rules, but didn't matter a lot. lol
@@lizgu8474 No, there literally is a rule that the 4th tone turns into something similar to the 2nd tone when there's another 4th tone afterwards. So it's pronounced more like "sì shí sì" just like Renjun said correctly, not "sì shì sì" like Haechan said, even though the word alone is pronounced "shì". At least that's what I learned in Chinese linguistic class, so I guess Renjun learned the same🤷♀️
@@mieberggaard I learned that it was the third tone though 😭?
6:03 when haechan, a korean, explained the chinese tongue twister to the chinese boy😭😭
istg the amount of times ive seen this man pull the “i’m a foreigner” card
I mean at this point we can confirm Renjun Korean and the dreamies to be foreigners
Renjun like a bachelor doing time machine from the past😭😭
His language, his points of view, his values.. really old but gold
Actually, Renjun was right with the explanation of the Chinese tongue twister and the staff (and Haechan) were wrong. Two 4th tones after one another turns the first into a 2nd tone, just like Renjun did. So Haechan, I'm sorry, you can't claim your Chinese citizenship just yet ;)
The bit about renjun reading chinese wrong, there is a rule that if there are two consecutive fourth tone then the first one become second tone. He is right. Seems like that situation was just confusion
Yep it’s a little similar to the French language so I understood what he was trying to say
The fact that he uses the "I'm a foreigner" card everytime to get away from doing things help-
as a person who speaks mandarin, renjun is right though. when a word with a fourth tone is followed by another fourth tone, the tone of the first word will change to the second one. great example of this the word ‘goodbye’ or ‘zài jiàn’ in pinyin. when you spell it they are both in fourth tone but when you say the word it becomes ‘zái jiàn’
plus it makes it look weird saying both syllables in fourth tone sequentially as they are both pronounced forcefully down(?)
thats what i thought! lol, i dont speak it fluently at all but i used to take lessons and i remember learning tone change rules or something. omg, poor renjun XD i felt bad for him. did they think it was wrong because its what natives do to sound more natural and more an "optional" thing to do? i know there are some tone changes that you HAVE to do, and others its up to you if you want to but even if you dont its still understandable? is the way haechan said it just completely incomprhensionable or does it just sound a little awkward to you?. anyway, rip renjun XD at least we know XD
@@sfssfsfsf7522 i think they did it so that haechan will be given a chance to say the tongue twister
@@louiegoksss11 yeah probably XD
I think that's the rule for 3rd tone + 3rd tone pairs. I don't think I've ever heard goodbye pronounced as "zái jiàn"?
@@dianabanana7394 I'm a chinese and I only change tone when its both in the third tone hahaha I've nvr heard of change to 2nd tone if it's both in 4th tone as well XD
I too use random accents in my daily life, and made my friends confused on why do I switch to different accents in one day. I can change them according to my mood.
i love how jeno is always shocked by it lmao
Renjun learn korean in such a young age..he said he learn korean when his grandmother watch kdramas right? That's mean he must be around 5~6 years, that is the age where kid can remember anything they learnt. Thats why renjun can easily mastered korean, and even knew old kpop songs. Meanwhile, Chenle learnt korean when he entered SM so he is a bit slow but look at him now so SAVAGE 😂😂😂😂
im amazed by his bilingual skill
Growing up with his grandma really strengthen his knowledge in korean pop culture and it esp shows when he's with the other korean members who sometimes doesnt get some of his old references lol
He's also from a part of china, jilin that borders north korea and has a decent sized korean population. So thats prolly why his grandma would watch kdramas on tv and why he was immersed in korean culture even before coming to korea.
I know this is not the topic of this video but I am always amazed by how amazing renjun's voice is. I repeated all the parts where he sang because his vocals are just so amazing
That one dislike is from Haechan not being able to accept the fact that Renjun knows more Korean than him. Lmao
chenle is seriously becoming a honorary citizen. recently he even said that he dreamed in korean 😅
i just need you to know how much i LOVE your videos !! like ever since ive found them ive been trying to find any other kpop channel that brings me as much joy but i just can’t find one, yours are just the best !!!
yeah! and also very educational about korean culture like she did for this video 😳
still cant move on where renjun explains a korean slang at a pure korean huhu and when he speaks dialects and where he went to an amusement park, even thou his korean member haven't yet gotten inside that park lol and many more :>
*an old man is living inside renjun..*
i love these sorts of videos and im always impressed by the research/knowledge that goes into catching all of his references like these!!
Also, Renjun in variety shows: Korean is hard. I'm a foreigner.
Renjun when it comes to games: oh Korean easy peasy
And him in the interviews: what is korean I'm a foreigner bro
Renjun ... we must protect this ray of sunlight pls
he's like a time machine to korean popular culture of the 2010s lol
renjun singing first love is so angelic i need a full cover
Not at Sungchan pointing at Renjun to explain to Shotaro on 3:58 and the China flag on Renjun flickers to Korea, your editing is everything!
It makes sense cuz he’s ethnically Korean lol
i think it's one of the reasons i can relate to renjun so much because even if i'm not chinese korean like him, i'm korean american so even if i'm fluent and know a lot of stuff my spelling and grammar will be incorrect at times and korean ppl are shocked at how fluent i am LOL.... anyways renjun ily you are amazing
the way my brain goes to loona's cover when the renjun clip of love battery started-
Yes! I needed a part two! Thank you!
Thank you for this!!!! Always looking forward to your videos!!
renjun makes me wonder if he really really born half korean sometimes like his korean speaking wow me sometimes
It's really possible and cnetz also think so. His past school was Korean Ethnicity School in Jilin and since it most likely ethnicity-based school, he probably indeed have korean blood at least from one of his parents. His name also translated flawlessly to korean name : Huang Renjun 》Hwang Injoon and i read somewhere that's because his parents knows what they did when naming him 😅😂
Renjun and Yuta knowing more about korea than some of their korean members.
This series is what made me subscribe to your channel. Thank you for this!
yooo im early 😭 kinda proud man
Thankiuuu for making renjun content !!!!
Our injunie is an old-soul x KRN😊
wow i have been rewatching your videos . while i've been thinking about renjun content & you upload this. Thank you
Now this is what you call 'a good quality video', It's very informative and provides proper translations and credits. Thank you 👍
god ive been waiting for this my whole life
Jisung is definitely a foreigner..lol😂😂😂
in another 5 years there will be like 5 more part of these things lol
This is the earliest I have been for your video
3:41 is no one gonna talk about how good the acoustics are here and how they compliment his voice? 🥺
Like renjun have spent most of his ages living in south korea😂
props to haeman here for compiling all of this
nice content as usual
oh my god i always love all your contents haeman here-nim😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️
omg i love this series so much it's just really funny but i'm also so impressed with how good his Korean is
I love your editing! It's so neat and the subs didn't go too fast like other clownctzen did for their content! Keep up the good work! 😁✨
03:26 Legend has it Chenle's still wondering what song Renjun was singing LOL
nct dream just having a whole identity crisis ㅋ
i love your videos!!+
your video such a mood maker for me, thank you xiexie gamsahamnida
haechan correcting renjun tongue twister will always be funny
I immediately searched for the intro :D thanks for the new song ~
I love you used Marry you at the end💕
Only renjun can turn the old trot song to ballad song
happy bday Renjun!!!!
WAIT RENJUN GRANDMA CAN SPEAK KOREAN??? I know renjun and her use to watch Kdrama!! But I never knew she spoke the language 😱😱😱
I am Chinese. Renjun’s grandma also is CHINESE. Renjun’s clan is Korean nation. And China has 56 nations. Renjun is Chinese but he is Korean nation. Do you understand？
In China, there is a nation called "Chaoxian nation (Korean/Joseon nation)". In the Ming Dynasty, some Joseon people lived in China. Because Korea was a subsidiary state of China in ancient times, Joseon people existed in Northeast China in Ming Dynasty and Qing Dynasty. During the war at the beginning of last century, many North and South Koreans fled to China for refuge. At the end of last century, there was famine in North Korea, and many people fled to China.
There are 56 ethnic groups in China. But our national identity is very strong. Even in Inner Mongolia, Inner Mongolian don't think they belong to Mongolia（country）. They will only think that they are "Mongol Chinese", just like "Han Chinese". It's just that there are two mother tongues.
JBJ’s Jin Longguo（Kim Yongguk） also is “Joseon Chinese”
@@SEBASTIAN-lw6ib Okay thank you elaborating!! But I have a question does that mean a lot of people from his clan speak both mandarin and korean? I believe the Ming dynasty ended in 1912 which could be a possibility of them speaking korean? And sorry didn't want to offend anyone
he's so smart its sexy
3:25
Please can someone tell him to cover the whole song? The tiny bit he sang was just purely angelic and I wanna listen to it all the time 😭
Ya i just come here to check out more on huang renjun!!!! Omg he legit knows so many Korean old song 😂😂😂😂😂 I AM STANNING A LEGENDARY MAN!!!!!
WAIT THAT'S MARRY YOU AS THE ENDING CARD SONG ;; BLESS YOU
Renjun bouncing between being super competent in Korean and messing up in Korean is bilingual culture tbh. Honestly, the fact that he knows all of these old songs is kind of amazing, and I didn't know that Renjun sung Love Battery before. ;; Hong Jinyoung is my favourite trot artist, and I got so happy when I heard Jeno sing "Thumbs Up" before, so I'm glad to be receiving these crumbs.
let's just pretend we dont know that he is korean!!!!!!!!
EVEN MEMBER DREAM THOUGH RENJUN IS KOREAN COZ HE KNOW EVERTHING THAN THEMSELF.😂😂😂
Can we just mention how I a middle schooler who is Asian American (not Korean) knows the songs and the lyrics to the songs he sang at his radio
(My grammar sucks)
The reason why he is good at Korean and knows about Korean culture is because he is Joseon-jok. Joseon-jok is a Chinese with Korean blood They are Chinese, but they speak Korean
I'm pretty sure Renjun was right about the tongue twister
You must have done a lot of research for this video, thank you for your work!
I love it when you edit the Chinese flag, blinking into Korean flag, when Renjun turns on his Korean mode 🤣
Let’s talk about Chenle tho- he has only lived in Korea for 5-year but speaks Korean so well!
isn't Renjun like ethnically Korean too? I heard way back pre-debut that the area he lives in has a lot of ethnically Korean people (usually from North Korea over the border) and could explain why his grandma's Korean is old/dialectical
yes he is；）
so Renjun is from one of China’s 56 ethnic groups called Chaoxianzu (people whose ancestors were Koreans that migrated to china a long time ago; the history chaoxianzu is a bit complicated to explain but it goes all the way back to the Qing dynasty era). He attended a dual language school learning both kr and Chinese. The Korean language that Chaoxiaozu uses has become unique to itself through time so It has many many differences to the standard kr language spoken in sk today (e.g pronunciations, English loanwords etc). Thus, he had to relearn a lot of those things which was very difficult and he talked about it on his radio show. Hopefully, this explains why he’s familiar with many of the old school korean tv shows and songs :)
@@xzzkat ooh that's so interesting! Thank you for sharing :)
This is my favorite series
He should get his IQ checked. I bet its really high