The Bizarre Interceptor That Accidentally Broke the Sound Barrier
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- In the peaceful solitude of the early hours of July 5th, 1955, a prototype of Britain’s latest interceptor, the Gloster Javelin, soared through the starry skies over southern England. The aircraft had been specially designed to fly at night and in all weather conditions, but it was a Javelin in name alone: not only did it travel at underwhelming speeds, but it was much bulkier than its contemporaries, with a large, rounded fuselage, an enormous T-tail, and a broad, triangular Delta-wing configuration, earning this odd-looking beast the nickname of the “flying flat-iron.” It certainly cut a strange figure as Wing Commander R.F. “Dicky” Martin guided it through the darkness at high altitude on a routine test flight.
Calmly cruising just south of London, suddenly, panic struck. As he struggled for breath, a cold sweat broke out across the pilot’s forehead as he realized that his oxygen tube was stuck in his parachute harness. He desperately fought to untangle it. Then, out of nowhere, an earth-shattering boom shattered the tranquility of the lonely night sky, waking households for miles around. Somehow, in the midst of his frantic attempt to free his oxygen tube, without even meaning to, Martin and his unwieldy Javelin had done the seemingly impossible: they had broken the sound barrier.
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I grew up with this aircraft; my father was the only aircrew to get 2000 hours on the type. I still have vivid memories of 60 Sqn's disbandment at Tengah in April 1968.
My Dad was crew chief to the squadron commander's F-100 Super Sabre (77th F.B. Squadron) stationer at RAF Wethersfield, Essex in 1956-58.
In 1957, a Gloster Javelin arrived as part of Wethersfield's airshow. It looked HUGE compared to the svelte F-100s parked nearby. The Javelin's camouflaged livery looked intimidating compared the F-100s' shiny aluminum skin.
It wasn't long before this 10-year-old had bought a beautiful cast metal Dinky toy of the Javelin complete with that nifty paint scheme. It wasn't long before I was putting together a FROG plastic model Javeline as well. Our USAF Suoer Sabres were truly supersonic in level flight but the slower Javelins were AWESOME. JJS
I had one of those toys too!
The commentary is so irritating I never finish his post.
@@derekhutton9855
Sorry that my recollections of the Gloster Javelin triggered you and irritated you so much. Perhaps you should've finished my reading my comment. JJS
The Javelin had twice the wing area, half the wing loading & 5 ton higher max takeoff weight compared to the Super Sabre. One of the Javelin design requirements was using short runways.
That mention of the pilot's leg length.... During my USAF days as an Avionics Instrument Sysyems Tech, I worked on the Lockheed T-33A among others. Being a tall guy with long legs, I realised when sitting in the cockpit, if I was a pilot and had to eject, I'd lose my lower legs to the instrument panel lower edge! 😮
Not necessarily, all modern ejection seats have leg restraints that automatically pull the Pilot/Nav/EWO etc etc legs back as part of the ejection seat sequence, but, you could be correct in your case as leg restraints might not have been introduced at that stage in seat systems, I know that they were introduced fairly early on in the development advancement process as it was realised that unrestrained legs were going to be flailing around causing considerable injuries to occur to the seat occupant.
@@allandavis8201
You cannot physically take a limb that is longer than a certain length...
and crush it back to the "correct" length with a pyrotechnic "tensioner"....
It just won't work.
If you tried that with a leg from knee to pelvis you would shatter the pelvis or the knee...and/or take the kneecap off on the dashboard during the ejection.....
Ball gunners on B17s had to be of small stature...
Early jet fighter pilots had to be less than 5ft 9 inches tall otherwise they couldn't fit under the dome of the cocpit with their bone domes (helmets).......
When designers rethough their designs taller pilots and longer legged WSOs were able to fit in a "
larger" cockpit.
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk , I’m unsure what you are trying to say, I have only ever known ejection seats that employed a leg restraint system that pulled the pilots legs back to the seat to stop them flailing around and causing massive injuries to the legs, they were not controlled by pyrotechnics they were a mechanical device that activated as the seat traveled up its rails, even in that tiny window of time the pilots legs were pulled back to stop them hitting anything in the cockpit and the effect of flailing.
@@allandavis8201
This is an early jet.
No leg restraints.
No physical space for the longer leg to get past the dashboard.
So short legged backseaters were needed.
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk According to the Martin Baker website the Mk 3js ejector seat fitted to the Javelin DID have leg restraints, no arm restraints but, and you can see the leg restraint lanyards in their photographs, definitely did.
I like the Look of this airplane, its design seems very modern for a 2nd generation jet fighter.
Great video, javelin was superseded by a behemoth of a fighter,the incredible English electric lightning 👌👍
Went to school in the Farnborough Circuit had to put up with the Wonderful noise of a Javelin.
Farst forward ten years a girlfriend father ejected from a Javelin in the Singapore region.
The Javelin came out just a couple of years too early. With a thinner wing & blended wing roots, a more contoured leading edge, area rule, more efficient stronger engines, small wing tip tanks & close coupled canards (while keeping the T tail) it would have been great & IMAO better than the Lightning.
So a completely new aircraft ??
Never understood why the UK didn't adopt area rule in the airframe, earlier.
The idea of starting an engine with what amounted to a shotgun cartridge was also used at this time with tractors.
Flight of the phoenix😊
Field Marshall tractors...YT vids available.
It is a mixture that needs to be hand loaded today
smokeless and black powder/black powder substitute....
just a gas generator...
the high volume drives the piston down and the flywheel takes over to keep the rotation going....
Its also how the British designed B-57 / Canberra started it engines.
@@robertarnold9815 The B57 used the same engines as the Javelin only licence built in USA.
Back by the Commonwealth forces of Britain, Australia and New Zealand these Gloster Javelin fighter jets flew across my village in Sarawak Borneo intercepting Indonesian Hercules at the border during the Confrantation War between Indonesian and Malaysia in the 1960s. The villagers were shocked by the thunderous sound of these fighter jets. It's their first time seeing these aircrafts.
If the F-15 Eagle is ''The Flying Tennis Court", then the Javelin was the "Flying Housing Estate".
I just love the aircraft of the fifties and sixtys ... they had character and interest that modern aircraft just dont have ..... a bit like me really !
Easy to understand the Brit's sensitivity to sonic booms, so soon after the end of WW II. Thanks for another great story.
The V2 arrived and exploded, a little later the sound of its terminal descent arrived. The V1 had its characteristic pulse engine sound, the really scary bit was when the bastxxd went silent as it was now tumbling out of the sky and the Argus pulse jet had stopped. Around one ton of boosted HE on its way to any (un)grateful recipients. So yes there would have been a certain sensitivity to sounds from the sky.
Britain struggled to build supersonic aircraft... only one ever entered production.
Not clear where the struggle bit comes in, perhaps you would explain further. The UK produced a number of supersonic technology demonstrators throughout the 1950/60s including the Fairey Delta FD2 and the Bristol 188. Take a hard look at both, they might remind you of a couple of aircraft that did enter mass production elsewhere. Earlier Miles had an aircraft in preparation intended to be the first anywhere (intentionally) through the sound barrier, it included the first all flying tail plane, technology that turned up in another aircraft that was mass produced. The money ran out and the technology was subsequently gifted to the US. The UK certainly had the technology and aeronautical science to develop advanced aircraft. However, what the UK did do was design aircraft and build the ones needed to meet its specific defence needs. What the RAF wanted was a quick reaction fighter with a sufficient speed, rate of climb and ceiling to meet with incoming threats before they were in range to do any serious mischief. Enter the English Electric Lightning P1 based on a number of technology demonstrators built by Shorts of Belfast. If you have built what is needed to more than meet your spec why build more? The exception to this was they did build four types of strategic nuclear bombers by four different manufacturers, namely the Sperrin, the Valiant, the Vulcan and the Victor. Each represented a sequential advance in technology and associated risk, look on it as rolling insurance policies against failure and taking no chances with delivering nuclear weapons. Again, where does the struggle bit come in?
@TheArgieH Please spare us the British revisionist propaganda drivel...
Britain lagged a decade behind Germany and America in supersonic aerospace technology.
Never in history has there been so much discussion regarding a fictional aircraft that never existed.
When the M.52 scandal broke, Ministry auditors raided Miles Aircraft and found nothing more than incomplete drawings and a partially constructed wooden mock-up of the cockpit section.
No evidence of the two prototype aircraft were ever found, nor the money paid to build them.
Miles Aircraft was charged by the Crown Court with 24 counts of fraud and embezzlement.
Frank Whittle was arrested and discharged from the RAF amid allegations of extorsion, embezzlement, and derliction of duty.
He was removed from his own company the same week the M.52 program was canceled and was exiled to a drug rehab in America to spare the new Labour government any further embarrassment.
Britain attempted several research aircraft that were notable failures like the Fairey Delta and the Bristol 188, but no follow on production aircraft would emerge until the English Electric "Aluminium Death Tube"
The Messerschmitt Me-262 is the first jet aircraft with a fly-by-wire Horizontal Stabilator system to counteract the effects of compressability and Mach tuck at high transsonic speeds and the first aircraft to go supersonic in a dive (and not crash)
The UK no longer manufactures its own jet aircraft, it buys them from foreign aircraft manufacturers or builds foreign designs under license.
The world's first jet aircraft to exceed 1000 mph was in fact the Fairey Delta 2 breaking the record by 300 mph & holding the record for nearly a year.
I was a Radar Tech at RAF Henlow 1956/57 We were refurbishing ROTOR radar convoys, returned from RAF Germany. When Finished we set up on the air field and they were used for the testing and training of Axillary RAF fighter controllers and aircraft plotters. During one test period there was a war game. RAF Germany with Canberra's verses UK air defence. We were not actively involved but had Directing staff sitting in and observing things. It was obvious that the Canberra's were long gone by the time the Javelins got to the Height where they had been. The Canberra's were told to slow down to give the Javelin's a chance. Later 1970 in Malaya (Penang) the same situation New Zealand Canberra's and defending Australian Mirage III but this time at very low level. The Ausies claimed the Kiwis were hiding in the rubber plantations.
Side note IN Penang Malaysia We operated a Computer assisted intercept system and when setting up an intercept we would get a go no go indication On some runs with Mirage III against Canberra's and Vulcans we would get GO NO Return
My dad did the same with the Vulcan. It wasn't designed to go through the sound barrier - but he was the first to show it could be done.
*Due to a fatal design flaw, the Vulcan would pitch down violently into a death dive if it reached Mach 1, a Mach limiter device was installed on all Vulcans to stop them from crashing.*
@@sandervanderkammen9230
It wasn't a fatal design flaw that caused a limiter requirement, the Vulcan wasn't designed to exceed Mach 1.
@petemaly8950 *The Vulcan is the world's only plane with a supersonic Delta wing that cannot fly supersonic.*
@@sandervanderkammen9230
The Vulcan did not have a supersonic delta wing. There was no attempt at the time to produce a supersonic bomber when designing the Vulcan..
@@petemaly8950 *So you didn't know that the Vulcan has a supersonic thrust to drag ratio???*
*Every Vulcan was equipped with a Mach limiter device.*
I vividly recall the sonic bang and its good to have the exact date . Years later I met a Javelin pilot whose call sign was Black Jack . He had been involved in a huge war game when American bombers had simulated a massed raid . He copied the German WW2 tactics of a head on attack… the Americans found it an effective manoeuvre!
Love the (hyper-reductive) description of the pyrotechnic start process! 😂 I recommend Richard Bach's reminisces of starting engines on the Republic F-84
Sorry, I lost that part of the video
Would you mind, please, to describe it better for us? :)
I live in the same county where Robins Air Logistics Center is located. Robins got the contact to do depot level maintenance on F-15s in the 1970s and a corridor across the center of the state was created so that the F-15s could break the sound barrier when they flew functional check flights. Over the years us locals have gotten so used to sonic booms that we hardly notice them. One day I went to our nearby Wal-Mart for something, that store happens to be right next to I-75, as I was leaving there was a family just getting out of their car and a very loud sonic boom went off. The family was from up north and and were extremely frightening by the noise. But they were confused because no one else seemed to have heard it, I explained about the F-15s and they sheepishly went about their business. It made wonder how many travelers had heard sonic booms like that but didn't have someone to explain it...
In August 1952 I was aged 10 and in the Isle of Wight and heard my first sonic boom. I thought from the glimpse that I got of the aircraft that it was a Javelin, but this suggests it couldn’t have been. What else was possible at that time? Hunters only went supersonic in a shallow dive and this aircraft appeared level at a considerable height.
True with early Hunters, very much so, but the later ones were rather quick! The last mark broke mach 1 plus another 230mph! But, yes, your early memories are almost certainly right for the time.
just 7 mins after launch and like no 46 nice vid
You only have to look at a Javelin in the Duxford Museum to know that it was never going to be fast, I am surprised that they got more than 550knots out of it.
Amazing. I have a small old metal no wheels toy of a javelin. 😊
There used to be a gate guardian Javelin at RAF Worcester. No idea what happened to it
Maybe that's the one at nearby
Gloucester's Jet Age Museum?
XH767 is at the Yorkshire Air Museum at Elvington.
I wondered, when you were talking about Martin unwittingly breaking the sound barrier that I used to hear that a few times a year but haven’t heard that sound in decades. I grew up near an USAir Force base and now live between Camp Pendleton and Miramar Naval Air Station-or whatever their newer name is. I used to hear that sound all the time near the AFB but not anymore. Am I just in the wrong places at the wrong times or do planes only do that in unpopulated areas now. Can anyone clarify for me?
In the UK generally all overland supersonic flight is prohibited if there's not something like a rapid real intruder aircraft intercept going on.
@@Paul-Nicer58 That makes sense! I’m retired for 10 years so my entire life until 1990 was the Cold War and way before a lot of things like noise pollution and noise regulation came into law. So the US probably has something like that here. Especially where I live it’s not the big Pacific Ocean so they can just fly out to sea if they want to go BOOM! Thanks for replying!
I still think it’s a beauty
This supersonic flight was not a one-off and was regularly achieved in service as the speed limit was mach 1.08 above 35000 ft. From the pilot's notes..."This aircraft will go supersonic in a 40 degree dive at full throttle. Also the Javelin was as fast as was required under it's specification and equal to the Hunter and Swift. You've also repeated a popular mistake about 29 Sqn Javelins flying over Egypt and upsetting Col Nasser. As it is about 2,500 miles from Cyprus to Nairobi, this was impossible without inflight Refuelling. They flew nowhere near Egypt but via Turkey, Iran, Masirah and Aden including two night stops to get to Kenya.
The Lightning was the only true supersonic military aircraft..
Known by RAF pilots as the "Alumimium death tube"
@@sandervanderkammen9230
The lightening was not referred to as the aluminium death tube by RAF pilots.
@petemaly8950 *Only by HALF of RAF pilots called it that... the Other Half were killed by the **_"Aluminium Death Tube"_*
@@sandervanderkammen9230
*Krappenz & co - they should note well with great deference, infinite revererance & extreme awestruckness.*
*_The English Electric Lightening was not referred to as the aluminium death tube by any RAF pilots, anywhere at anytime._*
_Accident losses for the ENGLISH Electric Lightening were lower than many other commercial & military aircraft._
*C H E E R S*
&
*_Toodle_* *-PIP-* *Old* _Chap_
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@@petemaly8950 *58% loss rate is the worst jet aircraft in history.*
Read The Quick and the Dead by Bill Waterton, the Javelin test pilot.
thats a serious amount of gun... I think the ADEN shell is similar to the ones shot by the AH64
Front fuselage looks a lot like that of the Panavia Tornado.
Excellent. Keep mining that rich vein of British Cold War aircraft please. Have you done the Gannet yet? The aeroplane equivalent of a pug, ugly but adorable.
No notice again.
It's certainly graceful to watch in flight, but I can't put the persistent thought out of my mind that the angles of the wings are all wrong. Especially on the tail section. Especially in the vertical part.
I had to look up Sabrina. Her tanks were bigger.
Yes, but they couldn't hold 250 gallons each.
Javelin almost looks like a mini Vulcan, If only it had half the investment that the Vulcan, Could have been a multi Record Breaker Fighter. On the funny side it looks like the result of a drunken night between a Buccaneer & a Vulcan ;-)
It Looked fast.
Cartons of Tiger beer fit well in the ammo bays - nicely chilled after a 20min flight at alt.! edit: "Sabrina's" was a carry over from the Hunter's ammo-link collectors.
At 1:27 as you say the Brits are reacting to jet powered bombers you show a prop- engine bomber
Yeah, accidental. ‘Sorry sir, I looked down for a moment and suddenly I was sending it’
A very fair progression from the Meteor. Not bad performance for a non reheat engined craft. I bet high altitude manoeuvrability was good.
Especially considering the Gloster Meatbox was the worst jet fighter in history... mediocre at best, typical british jet.
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke
Compared with what other jets? As one of the first examples of this technology it was primitive obviously. All the early models were.
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke
Compared with what other jets? As one of the first examples of this technology it was primitive obviously. All the early models were.
@@robinwells8879 Britain lagged years behind in aircraft technology, its jets were outdated, unreliable and had staggering loss rates.
British jets were so bad that operators refused to buy them anymore and the UK aircraft industry collapsed.
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke perhaps in the universe that you inhabit!😉. Remind me, what was the TBO for an early BMW turbo jet engine as fitted to the 262? 10 hours was it? Fantastic engine geometry and aerodynamics but a severely underdeveloped engine. These were early days and all manufacturers had teething problems. Russian Migs were only able to fly because of reverse engineered RR engines sold to them. The USA only had the technology that they stole from the defeated Luftwaffe and the engines that they were given by the UK. Nascent technology.
What was Bizarre about it ???
Nothing bizarre about it at all, the video author couldn't come up with something reasonably interesting, informative & factual.
@@petemaly8950 LOL :)
The titty tanks lol
Looks up 'Pin Up Girl Sabrina'.. OH.. OK .
The Gloster Meteor was the first & only, Allied jet aircraft used operationally in WWII, not just the first British jet.
An Important point to remember that I think..
Before World War II ended. Two American pre-production Lockheed YP-80A Shooting Star fighter jets saw limited service in Italy with the USAAF on reconnaissance, and possibly interception in February and March 1945.
The Gloster Meatbox only served in the ground attack role and only killed British pilots during WW2.
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerkeAnother constructive comment I see. What's your problem?
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke so how did it manage to shoot down 14 V1 flying bombs ? . The reason it was used for ground attack towards to end of the war was probably because there weren't alot of German aircraft left to to shooting down😅 its biggest threat was from friendly ground fire who thought it wasza 262. . Please do more research before making silly comments. . . If it was so bad how come the RAF used it until the 1980s ? .
@@tompiper9276 Just the facts here lad.
What's your problem son? Are you one of those woke little snowflakes that can't handle hearing the truth?
Is it just me or does the Javelin look like an early variation of the Tornado?
the Tornado is a German aircraft
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke They were/are multinational. The Germans ain't getting all the credit for the lovely Tonka🇬🇧🇮🇹🇩🇪😊
I think you need a trip to Soecsavers.
@@richardsawyer5428 _Panavia Aircraft GmbH._ (Formerly known as Messerschmitt) is a German aircraft manufacturer headquartered in Munich Germany... the Tornado is not a British aircraft.
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke it was a joint effort, but yes, it was primarily produced there.
Sabrina 😅
We 'Muricans would likely call them "Mae Wests"! 😅
She had some tanks.
The Gloucester Meteor was the only allied operational fighter of WWII, the USAAF aircraft that was sent to Italy does not count because they were prototypes and never saw combat.
Before World War II ended, however, two American pre-production Lockheed YP-80A Shooting Star fighter jets saw limited service in Italy with the USAAF on reconnaissance, and possibly interecption in February and March 1945. Who cares if the were protoypes? Anal much? YP-80 was a P-80 was it not? It wasn't something else.
The Gloster Meatbox was a disappointing failure as a fighter and only saw RAF service in the ground attack, reconnaissance and training roles during WW2.
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@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerkeIt intercepted V1 over South East England. Variants were used as night fighters too. The RAAF used them in the Korean War, but as you say, they weren't great against MiG15s but technically they were fighters.
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke Don’t forget the interception mission to bring down the V1 “Wunder Waffen” it was one of the few RAF aircraft that could catch up with them a destroy them before they got to their target 🎯, and don’t forget that the “Meatbox” was the first of the jet fighter era aircraft, engines that only just had more power than some of the very late piston engine fighters, obviously being a very new concept it was difficult to have any other designs to compare it to, really the only aircraft was the ME-262, but I don’t think we got our hands on one of those until the very end of the war, personally I also think it was a bit of a disappointment to the RAF and the Pilots, but the development of new aircraft and engines moved that quickly and anything new would almost certainly be far better than the Meteor ☄️ not just in speed but aerodynamics, equipment and reliability, but it was still an aircraft that Great Britain 🇬🇧 could and should be proud of, it meant that we were ahead of everyone, except the Germans, in the jet powered aircraft industry, and if that isn’t a reason for pride then I don’t know what is.
Thanks for taking the time to respond to my comment, much appreciated. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴🇺🇦
@@UkrainianPaulie I’m sorry if I offended you regarding my comment, but to be an “operational” aircraft it can’t be a “prototype” or even a “pre production” aircraft, in fact I don’t know what
“Pre production” really means, what does it mean?, if you think being patriotic and proud of my country, Great Britain 🇬🇧, then yes I am “Anal” in my opinion, would you accept someone changing the history of your country? (America I presume) the history of WWII and the contribution your country made in defeating the Axis Powers? and any other historical FACTS that were relegated in importance or whitewashed out altogether?, I don’t think you would be a happy bunny if that was done, on a consistent basis, to your country, or would you lie and say you didn’t care?.
Aiden cannons
TIL. Wankie is south east of Victoria Falls. 14:15
Baby-Vulcan
Would a prototype designated WD 40 have worked better?
As much as I liked this story, I really don't think the Turkish airforce had F 16's at that time... Mainly because they didn't exist then...
Clickbait title.
Was Chuck Yeager the first? They didn't have the wind tunnel technology. Let's face the Germans had better engineers. the me-262 was amazing
You're telling me it's bizarre. Like the Hustler, looks so wrong and ready to be superceded by a better design. It's so bad it's scary. Poor RAF pilots risking and often losing their lives for a piece of crap. Good video. 🚽🧻
Not for,but because of a piece of crap.
in 1960 there were 14 Javelin squadrons in service plue a huge OCU and only one Javelin crew were killed when the aircraft flew through cloud into a hill. The Javelin had a superb safety record in service with the fatalities mainly down to pilot error, including a USA pilot who attempted a prohibited loop on his farewell aerobatics.
স্কিন এ লেখা দ্যাখানোর জন্য ভিডিও ভালো করে দ্যাখা যাচ্ছে না।
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He totally did that on purpose
It was considered a response to Waterton's claim, after he left the company, that the Javelin could not go supersonic. It was impossible to "accidentally" exceed the speed of sound as it required a 40 degree dive at full power.
The Brits are the kings at making the strangest aircraft in the world
Cough cough all countries have produced planes that only their mothers could love……
*Thankfully Britain no longer makes its own jet planes...*
@@sandervanderkammen9230
*_Muncherz Krappenz DiktorBummer KARZEESTAN Jurkzxoffenzstadt & co - they should all note with much awestruckness and great wonderment obviously._*
*****
*Indeed - How come they can't answer simple questions - why is that?*
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*_DID SOMEBODY ACTUALLY SAY SOMEWHERE THAT THERE'S AIRLINER ASSEMBLY LINES OR SIMILAR IN THE UK OR IRELAND OR THAT Airbus or BOW-WING is actually British? (B-47 wings on many occasions folded up in flight or dropped off while parked)._*
Of course Brazil makes very good airliners & Brazil is 100th down list along with Indonesia for wealth per capita.
*Norway Holland Denmark Ireland Belgium - Top 20 wealth per capita - Don't make airliners - its as simple as that.*
BAe Systems & RR combined now do more Airbus work than Germany on an absolute basis & significantly more work than that on a per capita basis.
Per capita for the home nation BAe Systems is the world's largest defence contractor.
_BAe systems announced the recent £4 Billion takeover of Colorado based US based Ball Aerospace._
*BAE systems now does a significantly higher value of work for Airbus than it did when it was a major Airbus shareholder before 2005.*
*_RR now owns US Engine maker Allison for example which does classified Aerospace work for the US Govt._*
The UK has more important stuff to do these days.
_Routine simple passenger aircraft airframe assembly is becoming more of a 3rd world / trailer park area thing._
EG -
*_The DH Comet - world's first high altitude capable pressurised passenger cabin jet airliner in regular service, world's first jet airliner aircraft to cross the Atlantic, worlds first jet airliner aircraft to complete a global circumnavigation flight series._*
*They might try to sensibly answer this question - why do they believe that BAE Systems & RR (aero engines etc) & other companies, for example should be doing anything other than what they currently do & where do they get the idea from that the DH Comet had any affect at all on the progression UK aerospace sector.*
*Anybody currently flying on a widebody airliner stands a good chance of being on an aircraft powered by RR gas turbine aero engines built in England.*
📯📯📯📯
*The New RR Trent Ultrafan*
*Built In England*
*_World's Largest (see T&Cs)_*
*_Gas Turbine Aero Engine_*
📯📯📯📯
👍Manufactured by the people on a small island with less than 1% of the world's population.👍
*_A typical but small glimpse of what goes on in the very internationally orientated British aerospace sector._* -
Boeing Apache Attack Helicopter.
AH-64: *75 UK suppliers,* 7% UK content, global fleet of 1280+ aircraft.
*F35B more than 130 UK Suppliers, more than 30% UK content.*
*_F35A & F35C more than 130 UK Suppliers, more than 15% UK content._*
They might like to answer these questions.
*Which airline has just ordered*
*60 RR England Trent XWB Engines*
*& What aircraft are the engines for?*
_Bonus question for 10 extra points._
Which country has the
*World's Highest Combined Per Capita*
*Nuclear / Defence / Aerospace Sector Activity?*
👍 & 🙂 & of course 😎 indeed.
Cheers.
_Toodle_ -PIP- *Old* *_Chap._*
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@@sandervanderkammen9230 Hello Sandyboy, as you know the British still make their own jets such as the Typhoon built at Warton by BAE Systems who are Europe's biggest defence contractor and a significant part of Britain's aero-space industry which is the world's second largest after the United State's. The Typhoon's engines are as you know developed from Rolls Royce's XG-40 programme and are also built in the UK at Bristol.