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Komentáře • 94

  • @jeffgrumley8230
    @jeffgrumley8230 Před 5 lety +2

    All of you that are saying oh do this, oh do that... Its about knowing how to handle the blade safely to be able to craft the frame of the saw. Its also about being able to carry less stuff with you. As Mors Kohanski has said "the more you know the less you carry." I'm sure half of you were already typing your ideas before the video even ended, which means you didnt listen to much of what is being said. Just saying. Good info Dan!!

  • @_samuel_6951
    @_samuel_6951 Před 5 lety +21

    Use key rings at the end. Put a sturdy stick through each of the rings for "T" handles. You also don't need a 20+ inch blade all the time. They make shorter ones that won't flex as much.

    • @vivimu
      @vivimu Před 3 lety +1

      If you made a video of that it would be 100x more valuable than this vid..

  • @corwinchristensen260
    @corwinchristensen260 Před 5 lety +4

    I tend to put a sturdy toggle through one of the holes to allow me to pull the blade through the kerf. A finger or two on each side of the toggle gives enough purchase to effectively PULL the saw quite a distance with little to no chance of slipping. The other hand simply guides and regulates the pressure from the back side of the blade. Reset and PULL again. The key here is to firmly secure your work and ZERO slippage of flesh against blade. In this age of cheap stamped blades, even the back side can cut in the right circumstances.

  • @shanemccauley8354
    @shanemccauley8354 Před 5 lety +3

    Great video, I often take a blade in my belt always testing my ability. I often take a piece of scrap wood from the ground and cut a v-notch longways in it place the blade teeth toward the wood and cut a frame. Great teaching moment on your part thanks.

  • @halfcrazyoldchristianredne895

    I carry 12 in sawsall pruning blades, they are rigid and strong. And the plastic hand use adapter is small, light, and 10 dollars. And the metal blades are, of course, good for locks, hinges, bone, ect, and better for fine work like triggers on snares

    • @TheOtherBill
      @TheOtherBill Před 5 lety +1

      Great idea!

    • @jmorrow6913
      @jmorrow6913 Před 5 lety

      I also carry a sawsall blade, use 4 or 5 inch vise grips as a handle. Place the vise grips at 45 degrees or so down, then you can push down on the blade. If you need to field dress something large to pack out, use a metal cutting blade.

    • @michaellavery4899
      @michaellavery4899 Před 2 lety

      That one extra piece of equipment you carry is invaluable to doing many tasks properly and safely.
      The guy who made this video is making life hard for himself.

  • @philipvankampen3394
    @philipvankampen3394 Před 2 lety

    Throw a little butter and the tuna in that rice and we're good to go. I really like the minute rice idea. I'm stoked to get back out on the river this weekend with this in my pack.

  • @lookinfortime
    @lookinfortime Před 5 lety +17

    You didn't say "stay in the woods" and now here I am at home wtf?

    • @ScottWConvid19
      @ScottWConvid19 Před 5 lety +3

      Oh crap! Dan did something different! He's becoming one of those people that mix things up. 😳😱🤯😬

  • @TheScoundrel70
    @TheScoundrel70 Před 5 lety +12

    Grinding a few teeth off one end of the blade can give a safer hold too, and really doesn't detract from the cutting ability, particularly if you remove the teeth from what will become the handle side. However, a small saw like what you get on a multi-tool, Swiss Army knife, etc. is enough to make all the cuts necessary to make the saw frame, so you have a safe alternative method. It used to be fairly common when transporting tools to trapping shacks, remote work sites, seasonal cabins, etc. to remove the wood handles from chisels, slicks, saws, adz, etc to make them lighter, and more packable, then make new handles on site. Obviously not for short outings but long term projects or when moving from one camp to another. It wasn't a big deal to take your knife and whittle a simple, basic handle which completed a tool.

    • @michaellavery4899
      @michaellavery4899 Před 2 lety +1

      You're grinding tip is probably the best piece of advice on this site.
      The method advised in the video would probably lead to significant hand trauma.
      Your method got me thinking, if time was an issue, bashing the teeth back 180 degrees, with a rock or heavy piece of wood, then holding the blade with your hat, or similar if necessary.

  • @tenchraven
    @tenchraven Před 3 lety

    My grandfather used to carry a 21 or 24 inch blade in his cookpot. He didn't handle them without gloves, and what he'd do is coil it up outside of the pot. He'd then wrap jute between the teeth for a couple inched to hold it, tie it off, then repeat, just in case one piece of jute got cut up. And if he had to use it without a handle, ALL that jute got wraped around where he's be gripping with the glove. But he also cut a notch in the wood shaft of his e-tool and a notch to hold a bolt so he almost always hand a handle.
    Me, I'm a whimp. I folded a couple of PVC "clips" to hold longer blades coiled in a pot, but I cut a hard wood handle with a slit and a couple holes in it at home. Fits a 24" blade perfectly, along with several bolts and wing nuts and cord. A little reconfiguration gives me about 6 " of exposed blade to cut the first found piece. That lets me make a triangular saw. Then I cut another piece to make a buck saw. I have a whole heap of respect (and a little fear) of buck saw blades and a scar on my leg to back that up. :P

  • @dustinbesser4780
    @dustinbesser4780 Před 5 lety +3

    Good stuff, I'm interested in seeing you craft a frame in the field!

  • @mooseknuckle8334
    @mooseknuckle8334 Před 5 lety

    You my friend are a natural teacher.

  • @brandyhouston2105
    @brandyhouston2105 Před rokem

    I watched this video because, I was in a situation where I had to cut frozen meat and nothing but a bow saw blade. Now, consider the following. If your only making one cut and not in a total survival experience you will need to make a handle or bow. If pressed for time then protect both hands, ( saw are very sharp), go slow as he suggests in short strokes to get enough wood to build a fire. Then make a handle for more wood processing. You could also go ape shit while running around the forest to stay warm, collecting whatever will burn...lol..build big fire! 😃

  • @484848474
    @484848474 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for the tip Dan. First time I "saw" a blade used without a frame.

  • @AmierAzzeal
    @AmierAzzeal Před měsícem

    Like some other comments stated using key rings or something similar, espically with little sticks for better grip is much safer and easier and should be your first choice. Ideally have the key rings already attached to the saw blades on each end as it wont add much weight or take up much space. Saw another video have the saw blade in a cooking pot alongisde some other bushcraft tools e.g. rope / cordage.

  • @Rumblestrip
    @Rumblestrip Před 5 lety

    You can also use a couple pieces of all thread rod secured with a nut on each side to make a handle stop or give you something to grip. I've done that, it helps for the draw to keep it from sticking and cutting you. Also works great to pull from each side and let you use more of the blade.

  • @Thatsmisteroldguytou
    @Thatsmisteroldguytou Před 3 lety

    Good advice

  • @WayPointSurvival
    @WayPointSurvival Před 5 lety

    Good advice well given. Thanks for the video.

  • @LShapedAmbush
    @LShapedAmbush Před 6 měsíci

    Why don't people watch videos before commenting? I bet if Dan did a video about how to keep from getting wet and cold, 80% of the comments would recommend only going out in the woods on warm, dry days.

  • @grimreaper6557
    @grimreaper6557 Před 5 lety

    thank for the tip Dan as always great info

  • @thomasnugent7602
    @thomasnugent7602 Před 5 lety

    Very good ideas. Thank you very much

  • @edieboudreau9637
    @edieboudreau9637 Před 5 lety

    Good info. Thanks for refresher.

  • @linklesstennessee2078
    @linklesstennessee2078 Před 5 lety

    Good advice Dan

  • @cillaloves2fish688
    @cillaloves2fish688 Před 5 lety

    Thx Dan!

  • @hemansr3893
    @hemansr3893 Před 5 lety +1

    Hey Dan, if your not going to use a frame, why not cut it into 2 or 3 smaller pieces, it'll be easier to pack & less flimsy! :>)>

    • @coalcracker
      @coalcracker  Před 5 lety

      Because we are assuming we are going to make a frame. Watch tomorrow and Monday for videos on frame making! 🤙🏻

  • @jasonw.perkins3490
    @jasonw.perkins3490 Před 5 lety

    Looking forward to the saw frame video for a bucksaw. Thank you.

  • @douglasmaccullagh7865
    @douglasmaccullagh7865 Před 5 lety +3

    What about sliding a peg through one of the mounting holes, then holding the peg to pull the saw blade? Might take more than 1 peg, but the hand and fingers should be clear of the teeth.

    • @dirtydan179
      @dirtydan179 Před 5 lety

      The pegs would be too small to grip

    • @michaellavery4899
      @michaellavery4899 Před 2 lety

      @@dirtydan179 I would hope Douglas was talking about pegs generally, which cam be fashioned to any size, not clothes pegs.

  • @brentweigelt5365
    @brentweigelt5365 Před 5 lety +1

    I guess; if you want to carry a saw blade without a frame in your kit: grind off the teeth ahead of time where you want your hand? Maybe even drill a hole at the upside of your hand grip position and then you could use a stick or ferro rod to add some extra force/gripping at that point???

    • @michaellavery4899
      @michaellavery4899 Před 2 lety

      Sounds like common sense if you knew you were going to face this situation.

  • @2manysigns
    @2manysigns Před 5 lety

    Good

  • @douglasreeves9938
    @douglasreeves9938 Před 5 lety

    I saw that you got tagged for the Show Us Your Steak challenge to bring more awareness about mental health issues. I look forward to seeing your steak and hope you will tag SurvivalLilly and Canadian Prepper. Keep the videos coming.

  • @THESUPREMESUPERGOD
    @THESUPREMESUPERGOD Před 5 lety

    Brilliant👍🏼

  • @crash5868
    @crash5868 Před 5 lety

    Bushcraft meets common sense. As it tends to do.

  • @user-ft4fe9my8m
    @user-ft4fe9my8m Před rokem

    What is your favorite way to carry a bow saw blade?

  • @marcoscorona7125
    @marcoscorona7125 Před 5 lety

    Can you make a video comparing your Soviet and axe and your gransfors bruks?

  • @harshdeshmukh9244
    @harshdeshmukh9244 Před 2 lety

    Were i can buy the Blade please tell

  • @mikegilbert5851
    @mikegilbert5851 Před 5 lety +4

    I would like to thank the creator for this great content . But men and the few lady’s that watch this video please just pack the weight or be creative and find a handle make a frame out of the lightest material you can find it’s not worth risking injury while your playing/ practicing the craft take the weight and be safe

  • @johnfuller6338
    @johnfuller6338 Před 5 lety

    Next option, an old piece of garden hose, split, an tape around end of blade, saves flesh.

    • @mushercdn
      @mushercdn Před 5 lety

      Bingo! You saved me from writing the same thing.

  • @simonwinwood
    @simonwinwood Před rokem

  • @davidvavra9113
    @davidvavra9113 Před 5 lety

    Thanks
    Seems burying the teeth in a groove cut in a stick would work too.
    Me I like the Harbor Freight Japanese style saw. Usually 10 bucks. Remove one screw and it's collapsible.

  • @ambertracks
    @ambertracks Před 5 lety +1

    i'd make a U shaped wood frame for blade to rest in

    • @coalcracker
      @coalcracker  Před 5 lety +3

      Mike Albert this video is not about making saw frames. Did you listen to the content?

    • @ambertracks
      @ambertracks Před 5 lety

      yes, quite clearly i listen to AND actually understood every very important detail and i thank you very much for such an informative and wise video, , ,it is quite often that what many would consider common scense that gets over looked and accidents happen. I was simply offering another alternative that may enhance what you already said, did not mean to offend, feel free to delete my comment.

    • @ambertracks
      @ambertracks Před 5 lety

      @Becca tough crowd ha ? haha, ,it's all good , at least he is watching the comments , not letting lunatics run the asylum haha,

  • @billg7101
    @billg7101 Před rokem

    👍

  • @paulsaul2487
    @paulsaul2487 Před 5 lety

    Making frames will be interesting

    • @coalcracker
      @coalcracker  Před 5 lety

      Paul Saul coming in the next few days

  • @clarkeroderick8647
    @clarkeroderick8647 Před 5 lety

    Another tool in the tool box

  • @JimRodgers
    @JimRodgers Před 5 lety

    It's important to only use the first four inches...

  • @torchofkck4989
    @torchofkck4989 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for sharing
    But, I'm sorry.
    Though this is done very well...
    The only thing that I agree with,
    Is wrapping the blade.
    In my opinion, your technique is wrong.
    My preferred way is;
    Say you're right handed...
    (For sake of argument)
    * On the end of the blade using for a handle, insert nail, bolt, or whatever you're intending to use for anchoring to Imp' saw frame.
    * Glove up your right hand.
    * wrap your left glove palm side OUT, around the blade for handle.
    * grab a stick the size of your middle finger.
    * use stick to balance blade as you use (only) a pulling stroke to cut.
    Note: you may want or need to natch stick so as not slip away.
    This will increase your productivity cutting & is in my opinion much more safer.
    Still enjoy watching your videos.
    But, I'll call it as I see it.

  • @FishTheJim
    @FishTheJim Před 5 lety

    I would take my belt knife and cut a section of greenwood to fit a handle and split into it without going all the way through and then tie the wood to the blade.

  • @juliebaker6969
    @juliebaker6969 Před 5 lety

    If all you are going to use is about 4" why not add a handle, like would be on a knife and cut the blade off at about 4" long? That makes the tool safer, lighter weight, more compact, and easier to use. It doesn't take much to add a handle. A little wood, a drill, a couple of pieces of malleable metal for rivets, a hammer to set the rivets, and a knife to shape the handle.

  • @TonyTooTuff
    @TonyTooTuff Před 3 lety

    Do this before you smoke a bowl.

  • @outdoordauber
    @outdoordauber Před 5 lety

    Jerry Mooka tried to use a saw blade without a frame once....

  • @edwardvergara8321
    @edwardvergara8321 Před 5 lety

    Can you coil all buck or bow saw blades? Which brands do you recomend?

    • @blackhatbushcraft
      @blackhatbushcraft Před 5 lety +1

      You can coil them. Bahco brand blades are king! The dry wood blade is excellent for bushcraft/woodcraft work.

    • @edwardvergara8321
      @edwardvergara8321 Před 5 lety

      @@blackhatbushcraft Thanks

  • @michaellavery4899
    @michaellavery4899 Před 2 lety

    Think I would just bring the complete tool. Much more efficient.
    The above situation would only arise by poor preparation or bad luck.

    • @jakeeasterwood3204
      @jakeeasterwood3204 Před 2 lety +1

      You can only use the first 4 to 6 inches with the blade only and this would only be good if you are sawing small diameter limbs. If it’s size that is an is an issue it makes more sense to carry a folding hand saw.

    • @michaellavery4899
      @michaellavery4899 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jakeeasterwood3204 I tried this with a brushed leather glove, which offered good adhesion, and it was still an accident waiting to happen.
      As you said, it is only suitable for narrow branches, and even at that I use the word 'suitable' loosely.

    • @jakeeasterwood3204
      @jakeeasterwood3204 Před 2 lety +1

      @@michaellavery4899 Yes. So if you are going to use a bow saw blade in this manner be sure to take extra bandaids and antiseptic with you… you might need them.

  • @tylerjohnson6992
    @tylerjohnson6992 Před 5 lety

    I'll stick with my silky if it's all the same 😉

  • @DAAraiz
    @DAAraiz Před 5 lety

    I feel like this is not a great idea if you have any other option...

  • @user-zu3zz9th9q
    @user-zu3zz9th9q Před 9 měsíci

    👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽✌️✌️✌️

  • @garyminick1050
    @garyminick1050 Před 5 lety

    I love your channel and it is full of great advice for all levels of experience. With that being said I think this video to a novice is bad ju ju. Saws are dangerous enough when used appropriately. This is bad advice in my opinion weight taken away from a backpack should be found elsewhere !

    • @coalcracker
      @coalcracker  Před 5 lety

      Gary Minick so giving no advice on this topic would be better?

    • @sofakinggood5829
      @sofakinggood5829 Před 5 lety

      I have to say that in a survival situation, knowing and practicing how to use a saw blade is valuable no matter what. I plan to take Dan's basic survival course next.

    • @garyminick1050
      @garyminick1050 Před 5 lety

      @@coalcracker maybe

    • @garyminick1050
      @garyminick1050 Před 5 lety

      @@coalcracker I just think a Silky saw would just be better for work and safety with minimal amount of weight gain. No offense intended

  • @Robert31352
    @Robert31352 Před 5 lety

    Since we are speaking if "intentional" use, how about using the damn thing properly? If using four inches of the blade is safest, why not just carry a multitool with a four inch saw blade and leave the incomplete and very potential "accident ready to happen" blade at home? I understand your tutorial; however, my thinking is that some things are best just saying right front, like DO NOT DO THIS STUPID. With all of the arm chair bushcraft, never stepped into the woods, basement dwelling bushcrafters out there, this is will be a painful lesson learned for many.

    • @coalcracker
      @coalcracker  Před 5 lety

      Robert31352 leaving comments like this strengthens the basement bushcraft expert theory.

  • @jamescurry9164
    @jamescurry9164 Před 5 lety +1

    Look for information from Mors Kochanski (who I believe originated the blade only carry idea decades ago) for how to do this correctly. This video is not up to the standards of your others.

    • @coalcracker
      @coalcracker  Před 5 lety

      James Curry how is this not done correctly?

  • @magicdaveable
    @magicdaveable Před 5 lety +7

    Use it as a Pull Saw. Using it as a Push Saw is a European concept of inefficiency. Japanese saws are superior to western saws. Just wrap one end and using it as a pull saw.

    • @TheOtherBill
      @TheOtherBill Před 5 lety

      Todd Brill, Silky saws are pull saws and go through green wood like crazy. I routinely cut up to 6 or 8 inch green wood with a 14" blade, you just need the proper blade no matter which direction you're going.
      I agree with you on the efficiency of western vs Japanese saws, a good sharp saw cuts well whether it is push or pull. Where Japanese saws have a marked advantage is when you need a really thin kerf.

  • @dandetande288
    @dandetande288 Před 3 lety

    Stupid Gillette commercial!

  • @vivimu
    @vivimu Před 3 lety

    Excuse me but all of this was common sense and nothing revolutionary of using a bare blade...

  • @bsgaming71official43
    @bsgaming71official43 Před 5 lety

    👍