How did the 2021 GasGas Hold Up to 350h of Abuse? ◆ Trailbound Tested
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- I rode and raced the 2021 EC300 Gas Gas for a little over a year. This is my final review of the bike and how it held up. I filmed a number of reviews throughout the year but never found the time to upload them but hope you find this video helpful. #Trailboundtested
2021 GasGas EC300 from from Let's Ride Powersports in Idaho
www.letsridepowersports.com
Build Part 1: 10 Upgrades
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMRM2...
Build Part 2: Important TPI Mods and Protection
• Important TPI Mods and...
BUILD PARTS BELOW
bit.ly/3rfR1OH
◆ F R O N T E N D ◆
Suspension: Xplorer forks stock, clicked way down (probably like to go softer)
STR fork bleeders: bit.ly/35SjQGf
Upper fork shrink protection bit.ly/2URO9Xx
Trailbound rubber guard protection bit.ly/3fqMOAB
Full wrap stanchion fork guards bit.ly/3nIrr0C
Front disc guard bit.ly/3mcqj5b
Fork Lug/Foot protector bit.ly/370ZL0i
Trailbound leather hub cleaner: custom
Front bib Michelin M16 90/100x21 bit.ly/38X6Tg4
Tusk Recon Front Rire bit.ly/2XQgWgX
Tugger front triple clamp leather (chainsaw edition) bit.ly/2J277bA
Trailbound HD sticker bit.ly/3kY7T6K
Accerbis Front number plate/triple clamp cover bit.ly/2LB6RC4
◆ H A N D L E B A R S & C O N T R O L S ◆
Acerbis x-factor hand guard bar bit.ly/35Y6wAI
Hand guard plastic Trailbound custom
Hand guard threaded inserts bit.ly/3pUm4x4
Trailbound pad pack medium single pocket bag bit.ly/2HtSdu5
Trailbound Tugger bronco: custom
TB bar pad cover leather bit.ly/3pWHNEz
One way Vent hose bit.ly/2J5nmoh
Trailbound Trailcutters Chainsaw rack TPI regular bit.ly/33d6Cm1
Brembo OEM KTM clutch lever as front brake (braketech hack)
ARC folding clutch lever: bit.ly/35SixqP
Acerbis master cylinder cover bit.ly/3sDA27W
◆ M O T O R ◆
TSP Head: bit.ly/3use3DZ
TSP Head Insert: high compression but I have medium and the very high insert to swap between bit.ly/3KtS5WX
TSP ECU flash from SB Moto Performance: bit.ly/3use3DZ
Radiator guards bit.ly/3fq4Tih
Brush bungees bit.ly/3pTJYc8
fan bit.ly/3mbv5Q0
Exhaust flange supportbit.ly/2J3bFyD
FMF Fatty bit.ly/3bUE31V
Accerbis engine guards: bit.ly/2Y4X8Xj
Trail jammer stator/clutch guard need to see if they fit bit.ly/336QylV
FMF Turubinecore 2.0 bit.ly/374Rb0f
Thermostat delete: replace with XC radiator hose: double elbow and radiator to radiator hose
Engine Ice Radiator Fluid: bit.ly/2M2RzG0
Fuel tap (replaces plastic): bit.ly/3qALMGn
Female metal quick connect (replaces plastic) bit.ly/3iwkVsn
Zip Tie fuel filter (goes into male quick connect above): bit.ly/2LIDmOA
TPI Idle thumb screw bit.ly/3bP7HWe
Capacitor (so you can bump start it): bit.ly/3DDKtND
◆ F O O T C O N T R O L S ◆
TRS Folding Foot pedal bit.ly/3fvewwe
Hammerhead Shifter bit.ly/2UTRvJJ
◆ S E A T & P L A S T I C S ◆
Seat foam bit.ly/3m06L3M
Seat Trailbound custom leather gripper: email for quote trailboundco@gmail.com
Trailbound Ram sticker bit.ly/3fq8Nrk
Trailbound Tugger rear XL Leather bit.ly/3nPzf0v
AXP Skid plate: bit.ly/3nVxG0L
◆ R E A R E N D ◆
Rear BIB SRT mousse 140 (to hard for the XT 140 tire, drilled and flattened) bit.ly/2URMtNZ
First Rear tire: Mitas EH-07 double green completion gummy for wet woods/rocks: bit.ly/3qy6sz2
Second rear tire: Mitas XT-454 double green for desert/all around riding bit.ly/39mXv6r
Second 2.15” rim lock bit.ly/3qbwiZj
Rear bearing mud guards bit.ly/3qxMcxy
Trailbound leather hub cleaner: custom
Rear disc guard bit.ly/2UWxVfP
Rear caliper guard bit.ly/378Ay4a
◆ D R I V E T R A I N ◆
DDC rear sprocket 51t + RK Chain bit.ly/2V7FQY5
TM chain guide bit.ly/35VVETG
Swing arm tab protector bit.ly/3mcr6TH
Plastic swing arm guards bit.ly/3kUabU9
◆ T I R E S & B I B S ◆
Front bib Michelin M16 90/100x21 bit.ly/38X6Tg4
Tusk Recon Front Rire bit.ly/2XQgWgX
Rear BIB SRT mousse 140 (to hard for the XT 140 tire, drilled and flattened) bit.ly/2URMtNZ
Bib Bit Mousse hole driller: bit.ly/2OnLzsT
First Rear tire: Mitas EH-07 double green completion gummy for wet woods/rocks: bit.ly/3qy6sz2
Second rear tire: Mitas XT-454 double green for desert/all around riding bit.ly/39mXv6r
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I rode and raced the 2021 EC300 Gas Gas for a little over a year. This is my final review of the bike and how it held up. Full parts list on the Trailbound blog: bit.ly/3rfR1OH
@4:00 on the tip?
Great review. I received my handlebar bag about a week ago and I have to say, wow what a quality built bag. You really thought of every way possible to make these bags ready for anything. Very nice work.
For anyone who doesn't have one. Order one asap because you will love it.
I sent some pics to you of the bag mounted on my yz250
Bike looks like it’s been dragged behind a truck for 10 miles: doesn’t like the look of the silver rims 😂
😂🤝🏼😂😂😂
Fr man has his priorities
Damn that new Gasgas looks like it’s ten years old! You do some hard riding, love your videos!
haha thanks man it gets some patina for sure
@@TrailBoundco - Haha! I owned an ATV back in my teen years about 25 years back. It was a birthday gift from my father and I am pretty sure the tires were worn out in 6-months. I bet I was on that thing at least 5 hours a day, 7 days a week, if not more! I rode it hard for at least a year before moving to my mother's cross country and leaving it behind. My father rode it for two more years before he sold it.
Dang that bike is flogged.
Man I think you've ridden that more in a year than I have in my 28 year life.
Clean, one owner, GREAT CONDITION!
Runs and rides like new!
No issues except a few scratches.
Well maintained, never abused.
Brand new tires.
NO LOWBALL OFFERS, I know what I have!
Courteously of the new SXSBlog T-Shirt... Fits well here too... LOL!!!
Gotta love it when a bike is 2021 but looks like it has been ridden since 1991
The condition of your 2021 is hilarious! The most hours I've ever put on in a year is 230 so was really interested to see a review on a bike that has been seriously ridden.
I love that you actually used it hard. To me thats what these things should be doing. Nice video.
Nice review unbiased and pretty thorough you covered a lot of things other people over look or think there not so important but it's a lot of little things that annoy you on every ride until you sell the bike or you start to personalise and modify it to awesome cheers
350 hours in one year!! Damn that's a lot of riding, so yealous!!
@Quirin M. Genius
@Quirin M. I do the same lol. It’s great.
Good video. Seems like it's held up to the abuse. Shame on the fuel pump problem. Dust getting sucked into the engine will destroy just about any engine. I've had a few bikes where the air filter seal is difficult to get right.
Yeah I think it did well, there’s pro elena that come up with every bike with enough time. I’ve heard about the sealing issues with some of the ktm filters so I always try to check the back part with my fingers now since you can’t see if it’s sealed from the front
Thank you for the video and your advice really enjoying your videos
Thank you glad to hear you’re enjoying them. Would be stoked if you shared it with a friend or posted a screen shot of the video on your ig story or something thanks!
Bro, love where you live!!! Love the patina on the bike!!! Sweet vid, you are great voice
hey thanks! appreciate the kind words
Chris is a real badass… awesome vids, awesome riding, awesome mods, awesome editing! I installed all the “High-Flow” stuff on my 250 TPI. pump, filters, hoses.. etc. can’t really tell a difference. I absolutely love my 250xcw tho.. I just love the suspension.. I had a 300xc for awhile and just couldn’t get the suspension right… even changed out the aer forks and still hated it… something about that pds.. don’t knock it til u try it. Superior for hard-ish enduro imo. Lighter, softer, no snagging on shit, less maintenance, simple.
thanks! whats the high flow stuff like the radiator hoses? yeah I think the 2022 or maybe 21 pds is finally dialed in !
Awesome video. Great review.
thank you!
Thanks for the review. I have a 2022 KTM XC with 32 hours. It runs amazing but you hear negativity about them on the internet with the TPI. Good to know that these bikes can run for several hundred hours without problem.
Great riding and thanks for including the bloopers, too. LOL
thanks buddy!
The accumulated wear and tear from hard enduros is amazing. I used to enter 8-11events a year. Local timekeeping enduros and a couple of cross country events. I would swap dirt bikes every couple of years and not do anything to them when it was time to sell. They would show major signs of wear on the plastics and minor wear on the frame, forks, wheels or seat. Hope you share what the Gas Gas like when you are ready to sell it.
riding that much, you living the life. I just sold my 2020 ktm xc 300. wanted to cry but I can't afford 2 bikes and I live in south florida. run mostly mx. Hopefully one day to live somewhere I can ride a 300 daily! or maybe a 250 sx and make it for woods. I only rpde the 300 for 3 harescrambles. I didn't like the powerband but I never really got used to it. But being there's not really many hills here in FL I don't think the 300 was in its best terrain. subscribed
Thanks for pointing out that exhaust my rm has allot of kinks in the first part of the pipe
So true about revs required for lofting the front in hard enduro. The gasgas/tpi needs to run in higher rev for most things
hey 👋 Chris John neel is watching thanks for the content. much appreciated.
damn... looks from 90's. must be a hardcore endurance you been
i think only time and years will show it holds up to abuse! nice videos btw
look at the sxs skidplate. you should try an injector relocate, gets back some of that initial snap you mention, and you can ditch the OI if you want (i did)
Great Video, I thought when I first saw the bike you must have been doing a million mile review on it. Who's looking for a 1 owner GasGas always garage kept? Maybe that thing will Buff out! 😄🤣
For sale: Gas gas 300. 350hrs on the clock but all gentle riding with no abuse. First to see will buy.
you can get a radiator cap with a temp gauge built in, I know WPS sells one under their firepower brand, and I'm pretty sure trail tech sells the same one in a different color, you can probably find it from other brands too if you look hard enough.
Looks like my partner on Mondays after ive been riding her all weekend 🤙🏻🇦🇺
I'm impressed! Thats an hour every day for a year.. wow
What is that rear strap? Thanks - and great review.
All due respect, just an FYI in case it ever comes up again. Air intake charge goes from the reeds into the bottom end and is then pushed up into the top end via the transfer ports when the piston goes down. Common misconception that it goes into the top end first. You may have known that I and I just heard you incorrectly. Just wanted to share that little bit of info I learned over the years, I have learned a ton from your videos and I wanted to give back a little.
Thanks for sharing. I was thinking it went from the bottom of the cylinder then up but guess it does make sense it goes through the bottom end
Really a shit ton of info here guys thanks for sharing. 👊🏽
Neat shit bro.currently In humid ass fl. Be looking into KTM/ GASGAS once relocate to Tennessee after a stint in northeast U. S. Likely after the TBI kinks are all squeezed out. 🤘🏽
Serious question, how do you sell your bikes when your done with them? Even though the damage is mainly cosmetic, i imagine it would be impossible to sell. Do you just keep them forever?
I sell them every year at 300h. this one I kept a few months extra. I pretty much put all new parts on them, repack all the bearings clean everything up real good make sure its dialed
I think that was a nice way of saying he rides his bike onto the mixed metal scale at the scrap yard
I like that bike sir.. ❤️👍🏻
I just picked up an EC300. My first KTM brand bike. Came from a Beta. Overall this chassis feels so much better to me.
You’ll love it. The ethos are so much better. All the ratios just work. I’ve got a 21 EC 300 and love the thing. Been on all sorts of KTM bikes over the years and this feels the best by far. Rode the Beta when upgrading last year and gave it back after 5 mins. Just felt totally wrong for me. Big tip though. Depending on your weight you will have to do springs front and rear. I’m 115kg loaded and the bike felt like rubbish. On the KTM with pds rear I’ve always gotten away with it but not on this bike with the linkage rear.
Was meant to say Ergos not ethos
and that turning radius its probably way nicer
@@TrailBoundco Yep a bunch better. I like to filter between the trees on “not a trail” doing bushwhacking and it’s nice not to get all caught up and stuck because it can’t turn enough.
@@gonyg5316 I have one ride on it so far. Took the suspension off to have my guy respring and all that. But even being too big for stock it felt decent. I have high hopes for when I get my suspension back. Really liking the “fit” of the bike too.
I wanna know about these seat covers. I’d buy one for my ‘01 300 EXC right now. Love the leather
My first thought was “dude wtf did you do to that thing?!” The next clip I’m like ahhh got it lol
Hello
May I ask how reliable the oil injection unit has been on the gas gas
Thanks
I once bought a YZ 250 that was scared up like that but it was all fixed up , an ready to go , it was fast af
that thing hes seen some intense riding lmao, love it
Does that thing have a ktm rear fender? Maybe not I just thought it looked different than stock and was wondering if there interchangeable
350 hours on a 2021! Congratulations! My 2021 KTM has 106 hours and I ride a decent amount.
nice man!
I live in upstate New York only couple months to ride, I picked up a 2020 ktm last march, in late October I just hit 400 hrs, and my bike looks like it’s 15yrs old.
You really put that bike through the ringer lol. that clutch lever looks sweet, what's the part #? I cant find anything that looks like yours even on your link. thanks
they must have taken it off Rocky Mountain. its the power lever
arclevers.com/index.php?route=product/spsearch&spsearch=powerlever
@@TrailBoundco thanks!!!
For sale: Gas Gas 300. Only used on weekends, Very light scratches on exhaust but will buff out. Seat has one little tear on it, nothing to worry about.
Are the plastics of the ktm 2020 compatible with those of gasgas 2021? Thanks!
Any issues with wear on your rear brake master cylinder? I keep wearing through mine, i think my boots must rub on it when gripping the bike.
no ive never heard of that, you must pinch really hard which is probably good for your arms. I wear through those guards. maybe try the Accerbis with grip since they stick out a little farther and save the master
Im in the same boat looking forward to the tbi, i got a tpi first new bike ever, but i wish i found a used beta to try first. But i knew i was used to the ktms.
I don’t know about the betas. I tried a friends and it didn’t feel that amazing and the wheel turning was so narrow for trials stuff. But I’d like to try a freshie to see how they feel.
@Trailbound co yeah i heard about that. I had the same issue with my old xcw when i put the heavy duty SRT radiator guards on it & it made my forks touch way earlier. It definitely can make a tight trails more challenging. I've only ridden a bud's Beta Evo 300 (trials) love to try the RR series. Also it'd just be something different like the gasgas is.
When r your tuggers back, assuming u ship to Canada 🇨🇦?
Great review! Where did you find the clutch cable to use the Bractek slave with Brembo levers? Im trying to do the same. Thanks in advance
I think I just used the stock brembo one for ktm but I do remember adding extra copper washers to get the banjo up a little higher for clearance
Thanks for the input!! I'll give that a try
Have you thought about running a pipe guard
Oh, also from what ive heard around the shop the tpi is gone in 23 and it will be tbi and will be premix again. The word is they are claiming 6 pounds lighter by dropping the injection system.
thanks for the report, been hearing similar but not the weight. should be awesome!
Nice review, just an FYI the husky's use a 9.5 magura master which I find to be a good middle ground between a 9 and 10
New ones run brake tech👍
what year do you have, they change the masters randomly I've noticed but thanks for the heads up
@@TrailBoundco I have a 19 tx but I believe all of them that run Magura use a 9.5
My 2021 has a 9
The silver rims make it look cheap , black would look better... when I get mine im going to chuck a red set on it or get the silver powder coated , looking forward to riding a 2 smoke haven't riden one since my 98 cr250r back in the day , 7 yz450f's later and still to this day ive never riden on a track , the 300 is going to be a lot of fun im really looking forward to it ... stay safe guys🇦🇺🤙🏻
Hi Chris... I was wondering if you left your forks stock, or did you modify them.
I had deja moto do his basic symmetrical conversion so more adjustments and some valving on them. basically the most budget setup you can get
How can you do 350h in less than 2 years? What's your job??
The front tire is mitas also ? What model ? Thanks new subscriber here
thanks that's the ef terra force up front shop.trailbound.co/collections/all-products/products/mitas-terra-force-ef-front-front-tire
Jesus that’s a 2021! You’re hella hard on your gear
Did you ever have to change the ccps? My 21 300 xcw started to sputter at 45 hrs. Also, you still in SV CA? Does the outlawing 2 strokes affect you getting new bikes?
whats ccps? no I moved and riding closed course and out of CA isn't a problem
@@TrailBoundco Still in CA? The ccps is the crank case pressure sensor. It's one of two pressure sensors that sit in the tray below the two stroke oil tank. The other sensor is the atmospheric sensor that allows the tpi to adjust to different altitudes. The ccps is a feedback loop to the tpi to adjust fueling for engine load. It's a known issue for the ccps to malfunction and cause the bike to sputter at low rpm.
Yup same. Had to change a ccps at about 45 hours also on my 21 Gas gas. Started bogging, dying with clutch in and getting shit fuel economy. Buddy w a 2021 xcw had to do his first one at around 30 hours from what I remember.
@@laddjohnson2576 oh yeah I think my gf broke one putting it back in so we had to replace it but no I didn't have an issue where I had to replace that due to it bogging
What would it take to get that pipe blown out probably not much
Pipe looks fine.
Curious how many top ends and clutches you've replaced in that amount of hours?
clutch on ktm is bullet proof, never had to change one. I did 2 top ends.
@@TrailBoundco what oil do you run?
@@dylanldelisi144 I use the motorex
Bikes pretty much new. Just needs a tiny bit of Armarol. No but honestly, I envy guys who can just ride a machine and absolutely don't care about how they look or how "visually" trashed they get. It must be so easy and fun. I always stress about scuffing the dam thing.
So did you change out the oil injection pump at 80hr (or 100hr)
Increments ?
I am at 500hours on stock pump. 2019 250 ktm
No I changed the fuel pump inside the gas tank. I did test the oil injector though when troubleshooting. You can use the dongle with the oil hose off and see how much comes out of it
@Trailbound co awesome good to know, it said in the manual to change it at so many hours and looked like a pain to do and extra unnecessary expense to me.
i ride motocross but agree i like the snappyness of the old ktms personally ride a 1999 ktm 250sx and despite being a 23 odd some year bioke its alot more snappy then my newer 2020 ktm 250sx
the head on the right side by the thermometer is that a huge crack going vertical?
no I think its just a little bit of grease or something
What’s going on with the rear axle? Looks like it’s the wrong way and not right up to the chain adjuster
ive been running a 52t testing so I flipped the blocks to get more chain out of it. although I may have just thrown a wheel on this to roll it out oof the garage to wash and review to be honest
@@TrailBoundco that’s good Aslong as you know, love how your bikes are so beat I spend too much time and money trying to keep mine looking new when really I should just accept it’s going to get ruined it’s the nature of the sport 😂 thanks for the videos
is your cylinder cracked?
Anyone you’ve heard of with oil pump failure? Debating when to change mine. Lol ive heard 20+ are better now with a filter in the tank
nope not that I know of personally
How many piston?
what did you do with the forks - they are nearly un-rideable stock
I had www.dejamoto.com do the symmetrical conversion on them to give more adjustments. what dont you like about yours
How many hours you make with the piston?
I do them every 150h with no issue
you dont like the silver rims. do you se how clean youre bike is?
I thinking about that 🤔
Did you relocate the gas cap vent hose to the side of the bike?
yeah with the ktm side plug thing
@@TrailBoundco Roger. I’ll order one. I don’t like the vent down in the steering stem. I like to keep an eye on it. 😀
2:12 The rims look great, I can't stand
black rims. YZ blue rims are awesome too.
Do you know how I can find a Gas Gas dealership in northeast Ohio??
I’ve tried the factory site to no avail, I’m not real tech savvy so your help would really be appreciated 👍
Riding that tree was really cool!
Thanks Brother 🤙😎😎
id probably just hit up the KTM dealers because many of them also carry the GG now its the same bike essentially
@@TrailBoundco Thanks Brother 🤙😎😎
Do you have a different map in the ECU?
ECU was flashed by sb moto performce for the TSP head
15:30 perfect example when people say Yamaha X's don't need e-start.
agreed, it gets you out of shit for sure
You beat that sucker like it owed you money. Sure you had fun in the process though 👍
Those jubile clips on swingarm are gunna keep hitting your chain the way you’ve position them that’s jokes 😂😂
I got that little gqp to, but i was lucky nothing broke🤓
I can fix that exhaust chamber for you. Looks like it’s been through a lot lol
How much do you want for the pipe?
well its a factory tuned #powerdentpipe so at least $350. I know what I got.
@@TrailBoundco done deal lol 😂
Ive been less than impressed with the axp skidplates. My current yz250x model ive cracked though a "weld" in less than 15 hours of use. The rest of the plate is doing well but I probably wouldn't buy again.
interesting how old is the plate? ive had zero issues with my skid plate for the first time on this bike with the axp
@@TrailBoundco bike has 17 hours-ish and i noticed it before the last ride. My boss broke his in a single ride, while another coworker has had great luck. Seem to be hit and miss as you ride much nastier stuff than i do.
My Axp is bulletproof with 105 hours
@@nick4872 hit and miss I think. After trashing the thinner 6mm version amd breaking the weld on an 8mm they arent my first choice.
260 2nd gear hours with my AXP and she beauty still
This is why o don’t mind buying a used bike that looks clapped. At 350hrs and only a year old in that shape is crazy but
You know that things running good if it’s being ridden that hard
Nice KTM/Husky
it is really the perfect red headed step child in my opinion
What was your warm up procedure?
just idle with the choke on and try to let it get into the 80's on the temp gauge
@@TrailBoundco 80s! My dealer told me to let it get to 140, than shut it off and restart it on my new 22 ec300!
@@razorsedgeadventures6599 I always start mine while I gear up. I let the left rad get nice and warm. Depending on outside temp the fan temp says 110-150 degrees by the time I’m ready to ride. I putt around for first few minutes.
Hit up bulletproof designs they’ll send you out a new piece for the rear guard
yeah they're awesome!
3:57 I agree, I worked with my clutch (cable) to
get it right there where you don't have to pull it
to the bar to disengage it. At times, 1 finger for me
is an absolute must, I need as many fingers holding
the bar as possible, while constantly covering and
at times feathering the clutch.
. I use a '1' finger clutch lever too,
that's part of what makes it work for me.
I put 34 hours on my 450r in a year....good lord
Man my 21 yz450f have 21h I don't have time to ride 😭
stupid question, what are hours?
most modern dirtbikes have hours meters on them instead of miles odometers so it measures how long the bike has been running. on a 6 hour day I might only have 4 or 5 hours on the bike due to starting and stopping. its how you keep track of maintenance intervals and such
@@TrailBoundco cool, thanks.
Haha I bet the bikes get nervous when you walk into the dealership, I’ve never seen a bike so scratched 😆😆
haha Let's Ride Powersport is down with the hard enduro bikes 😁
I saw the exhaust and was so confused that it was Hours not years
Did you have chance the Oil pump ?
nope zero issue there
I think that's the most clapped gasgas I have ever seen
2021 gasgas Like new barely used and well taken care of and garage kept 1.5m no lowballers Ik what I have
Sir don't get rid of the front pipe get it either pulled out or hook a pressure washer to it and pop the dents out as it's similar to hydro forming using water pressure to turn a flat pipe into a 3d pipe...
Block off the header end with a bit of plate steel then hook up the pressure washer the other end with a tight fitting clamp (take the end can off) and use the pressure to pop the dents out easy with no heat needed (though you can also use some heat if carful to really get the crease out)
Sounds complicated but a CZcams video will show you what I'm saying... save the pipe don't throw it sir...
Boy you rode the hell out of that one