Part one of JK Sound's training video on the correct over-under method of wrapping cables. Find us at www.jksound.com and also add us on Facebook, Flickr, and Twitter!
Thanks for the info. I believe that's a good way to give longevity to the cables, however I also belive that's not very healty for those XLR plugs banging on the floor from that distance all the time, and as the first thing you do (after unplug them) is pass all the cable through your hand to have it near your feet, why not have a dust cloth and at the same time you'll clean the cable before start to wrap it!
Good idea on laying the bigger cables on the floor. The snake is the tough one for me. I've seen guys just lay it on the floor and wind it up, as if it's on a spool. Will this shorten internal cable life? Very small wires inside there, as we know. Thanks!
I've done shows with countless sound companies providing production and have noticed that 90% of them use string instead of Velcro cable ties. What is the reason for that? I assume it's because they buy 500' of tieline and it's more convient........... What is the best way to tie off cables using string or tieline?
I do this all day long. Can I give some advice? Measure 1 meter and learn the length with your hand reach. When you wrap a cable, you can count the loops , ( 1 meter per loop) and you know the exact length. Start at the female end and throw it towards the stage box. Always work towards the mixer. Learn the resistor colour code and colour code your cables and you know from a distance by visual what number the channel is. Put the velcro wrap on the male (stage box end) so it's out of sight. I could go on for ever! Peace everyone!
I recon by the time you've done with the video you'd need to replace that XLR connector that you've been trowing on the floor. I also disagree with the increasing of the lifespan.... The cable has a natural twist as it has been wound on a reel directly after manufacture and as long as you stay true to that natural twist, you'll have no problems. If I catch anyone working with me throwing a cable like that, they have just bought the cable from me and I will replace it. I know it sounds a bit extreme but throwing a cable exerts forces on the cable and terminations that are not meant to be. I physically unroll my cables and so will anyone else working with them. I have hands on experience with all kinds of cabling right from the manufacturing process to the final use in various types of installations and uses and cables get a natural twist permanently set as they come out of the machine that makes the cable and is wrapped on the bulk reel. From there on, rewinding onto smaller reels and ultimately reeled for sale, that natural twist is honored by the factory because failing to do so will result in an unevenly wound and tangled reel. The method everyone proclaims to be the correct method is only really useful in high pressure setups where time is a bigger factor than the ultimately shortened life of the connectors because you can quickly uncoil the cable by simply throwing it. I suppose that in this instance, as is increasingly the case, convenience dictates the method.
Lemme tell you all - If you're a stagehand and you don't do this you are going to PISS someone off! Some of those cables are 50' - 100'. Some of them, like feeder cable is wicked heavy. if you DONT do this it won't go back into the box easy. You WILL look like an IDIOT! - Trust me. When I got bitched out, I took every single cable in my house and spent 3 hours practicing this. I felt like shit. When you pick up a cable, do it with confidence and know what you are doing. Good luck with that feeder cable.
Před 10 lety
you talk tooo much.. getting lost in trying to follow the procedure...
"Ill Wrapping Procedure" is going to be the name of my next album.
good video ...peace JK Sound
Thanks for the info.
I believe that's a good way to give longevity to the cables, however I also belive that's not very healty for those XLR plugs banging on the floor from that distance all the time, and as the first thing you do (after unplug them) is pass all the cable through your hand to have it near your feet, why not have a dust cloth and at the same time you'll clean the cable before start to wrap it!
This man also has dope wrapping bars 🤌 catch him on the beat wrapping bout cables and audio 🤣
And to MarlonOwnsYourCake...I can't wait to hear and see that project...Send me some clips!
Good idea on laying the bigger cables on the floor. The snake is the tough one for me. I've seen guys just lay it on the floor and wind it up, as if it's on a spool. Will this shorten internal cable life? Very small wires inside there, as we know. Thanks!
I still use the Macon wrap
@rmo52 that's a no-no. All you have to do is watch one episode of Deadliest Catch and examine the method they use for heavy rope.
hi, what is the music at the start? its very funky :)
I've done shows with countless sound companies providing production and have noticed that 90% of them use string instead of Velcro cable ties. What is the reason for that? I assume it's because they buy 500' of tieline and it's more convient........... What is the best way to tie off cables using string or tieline?
That guy sitting at the desk is wrapped up tight! And outta sight!
click 4:56 when you are running outta time to wrap cable
I do this all day long. Can I give some advice?
Measure 1 meter and learn the length with your hand reach. When you wrap a cable, you can count the loops , ( 1 meter per loop) and you know the exact length.
Start at the female end and throw it towards the stage box. Always work towards the mixer.
Learn the resistor colour code and colour code your cables and you know from a distance by visual what number the channel is.
Put the velcro wrap on the male (stage box end) so it's out of sight.
I could go on for ever! Peace everyone!
I recon by the time you've done with the video you'd need to replace that XLR connector that you've been trowing on the floor. I also disagree with the increasing of the lifespan.... The cable has a natural twist as it has been wound on a reel directly after manufacture and as long as you stay true to that natural twist, you'll have no problems. If I catch anyone working with me throwing a cable like that, they have just bought the cable from me and I will replace it. I know it sounds a bit extreme but throwing a cable exerts forces on the cable and terminations that are not meant to be. I physically unroll my cables and so will anyone else working with them.
I have hands on experience with all kinds of cabling right from the manufacturing process to the final use in various types of installations and uses and cables get a natural twist permanently set as they come out of the machine that makes the cable and is wrapped on the bulk reel. From there on, rewinding onto smaller reels and ultimately reeled for sale, that natural twist is honored by the factory because failing to do so will result in an unevenly wound and tangled reel.
The method everyone proclaims to be the correct method is only really useful in high pressure setups where time is a bigger factor than the ultimately shortened life of the connectors because you can quickly uncoil the cable by simply throwing it. I suppose that in this instance, as is increasingly the case, convenience dictates the method.
Ft
longevity is reduced.
I'm on this side of youtube again . . .
Um... is it just me, or does this guy teach a backwards wrap?
Lemme tell you all - If you're a stagehand and you don't do this you are going to PISS someone off! Some of those cables are 50' - 100'. Some of them, like feeder cable is wicked heavy. if you DONT do this it won't go back into the box easy. You WILL look like an IDIOT! - Trust me. When I got bitched out, I took every single cable in my house and spent 3 hours practicing this. I felt like shit. When you pick up a cable, do it with confidence and know what you are doing. Good luck with that feeder cable.
you talk tooo much.. getting lost in trying to follow the procedure...