The Nintendo Playstation - Nintendo History
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- The Nintendo Playstation changed gaming history as much as the Switch has done. This is the story of how Nintendo created its greatest rival and the only surviving prototype.
The collapse of this unusual partnership in 1991 brought a new player Sony Playstation, which to this day dominate the home console market.
You can see, touch and play the Nintendo Playstation at this year's Retrospillmessen: retrospillmessen.no/
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Do you believe the breakup imposed by Nintendo on Sony was the Big N's biggest blunder?
Commonwealth Realm Damn straight it was;(
Commonwealth Realm No. We will never know if the Nintendo playstation would be succesfull. Somebody else could also have won the console war against Nintendo, it is needless to speculate on what would have happend. Let's rather focus on what happend.
The Rebel I agree. There is no point dwelling on what could have happened. What's done is done.
Probably they should have worked with sony
Why do you guys keep on calling it nintendo playstation when it doesn't say Nintendo anywhere on it?
While a bad move for Nintendo at the time, I'd say what happened was the best outcome for the future, since it allowed Sony to become big in the console market, creating competition between Nintendo and Sony, forcing both companies to make better games and better hardware
nice to see someone comment what I was going to
also, could you imagine a world without 2D SNES games?
Imagine if every game on SNES would be a pixelated mess like the PS1 games, which looked great at the time, but are ugly as hell for todays standards.
Most SNES games on the other hand are timeless because of the gorgeous pixel art
Then Microsoft jumped in and more recently Google.
The console wars are still going , when will it end? ~_~
When gaming companies stop making consoles and move to publishing PC games thus starting the “Great Stream Publisher” holy war or the internet gets destroyed
Jesus if Nintendo and Sony had continued on working together they would form the most Godlike console in the world that no man can take his eye away from its glory.
Microsoft would piss themselves, and sega would just leave
@@MickPizzerolls1987sega literally left, they dont make consoles anymore, just games
@@Sorro At the time, Sega was still a player. In fact, after the deal with Nintendo failed (this is less commonly known), Sony went to Sega, but Sega turned them down entirely.
One of Sega's worst mistakes IMO, as that led to the Saturn that was completely outclassed by the actual PS in every way.
@matthew_ivanov254I heard it’s going to be delayed again the releases date is TBD lol
Imagine the Nintendo-PlayStation Switch: New DualSense controller with 4K screen! As if our DualShock 4’s screen wasn’t HD enough!
Even though everyone knows this now, you added a twist on the story! =D
"Hey plumber boy, mustache man your worse nightmare has arrived", lol!
Historic Duel the Commerical really hasnt aged well
Your friendly average neighbourhood demon what dp you mean? It's awesomr
a couple years later and crash was on gamecube and GBA. XD
Gamer Chief i mean Not in Sense of being Bad, i mean the fact that Crash Games got very Bad over time and apeared on gcn and GBA
Your friendly average neighbourhood demon oh that, sorry I misunderstood your commemt
Nintendo to this day regret stabbing Sony in the back, because now the PlayStation has become the most powerful console ever, and it is the highest sold console of all time with the PS2: 155 million consoles sold
I don't think they regret it. There are documentaries implying that Sony was attempting a hostile takeover of Nintendo eventually.
Nintendo and Sony would’ve dominated the industry over if they worked together.
Nintendo’s innovation with Sony’s business sense and console power? That would’ve been a match made in heaven.
Monoploziation leads to complacency which will eventually lead to mediocrity,imo it was a good thing that this partnership did not happen.
@@desmondgovender3142 Do you think it was good that the partnership between Sony and Sega didn't happen, after Sony went to Sega following this failure?
That intro always gives me chills.
Actually every one of your intros do!
Without PlayStation there would be less competition and Nintendo would just have a monopoly on the market which wouldn’t be good
No competition = no/less innovation
Ryan Kim the litteral reason they Made snes is because the Genesis. We maybe would still playing nes If Nobody stood Up
I wonder if Sega would have still quit making consoles, well they probably still would have made many of the same mistakes, it would have only been them and Nintendo as far as major consoles. I would rather if Microsoft would have ever join to. It is a really good thing that PlayStation exists though.
ikr
probably the Nintendo VS Sega war would have continued through the upcoming decades.
Wrong sega would still be around
Dat intro... wow!
This story always makes me wonder what if...
Fantastic video by the way
This video's editing and narration was just amazing.
Man, could you imagine a world with the Nintendo Playstation? That would be an unstoppable juggernaut. They would have strangled Microsoft in the cradle.
No, it’d still have fallen apart, Nintendo are assholes.
So the prototype Nintendo PlayStation can play audio cd's but the ps4 still can't.
tazgamer *ps4, but yeah, great, isn’t it?
Manuel Koegler Thanks, I didn't even notice. I used Swype on my phone and didn't catch that it populated ps3.
@@ManuelKoegler Sony: Stings, doesn’t it?
Cool, more Jason Damron!
Kind of different for a CR video, but it was enjoyable!
(Yay, we broke 125k!)
That opening though. Amazing!
I still can't believe the family sold it in auction and then cried about not getting what they were hoping for...
I think all game creators should work together to make one ultimate game and it could be played on all game platforms
At least OoT didn't have loading times :P
Great video, amazing that something like that still exists, still works and is touring the globe :)
Cds break easy and get scratched. Not mine. But I've known others to lose games that way. I prefer the cartridge video games. I'm glad Nintendo went back to them for the switch. ^_^
xXBrittany20Xx The only issue I have with the cartridge on the switch is with companies choosing to use the smaller ones and making you download the rest of the game to an sd card.
tazgamer lets Hope the bigger space Cardritches come fast and Bethesda and Rockstar decide to rerelease their Games on them
CDs and DVDs were extremely fragile. I never actually had any DVD-based game I had become unusable (I've never played a CD-based that was non-emulated, they were a little before my time) I've only had a very small amount of DVD'S become useless. I would frequently have issues when I rented games or DVDs though as people wouldn't take care of them. I would also cringe when I would visit some one and they would out a DVD down on the table and let it sit on the part the reads. Blue Ray's actually fixed this, they are very hard to scratch unintentionally, even if you are being stupid with them, they need force to scratch. Blue Ray's we're pretty good. The pros to CDs and DVDs was that they could store a lot more data than catridges at the time and we're extremely cheap to make. The Switch supposedly has a 64 GB catridges in the works which could hold more than even a duel layered Blue Ray (though there are quadruple layered Blue Rays that hold 128 GB but they aren't common.) The problem with cartridges is there price as they have always been really expensive to make, Blue Ray's are really cheap to make.
Basically CDs and DVDs would scratch like crazy but Blue Ray didn't. However with cartridges are even more durable than Blue Rays and they load much faster than Blue Ray's, they just cost a ton more.
The Switch had to go with cartridges due to it's size, also a disc reader would drain the battery faster. I am happy that the Switch uses catridges, I just wish developers would order the bigger ones.
I don’t mind CD format. I still have PlayStation 1 games that work to this day. As long as you take good care of them you should be fine. I do prefer cartridges though as they are more durable
Great video!
but at 5:34, wasn't the DS cartridge based too?
This is a really good retrospective 10/10
If Nintendo went with it they would have probably been worse off in the long run.
I think the same.
I agree. discs and cartridges would have been weird
I think that Nintendo would have abandoned the cartridge a lot sooner had they partnered up with Sony. They would have a complete monopoly over a proverbial sea of IPs. Microsoft might not have been able to elbow their way into the gaming industry had this actually happened.
the reason why they partnered with phillips is cause sony wanted exclusive rights to 3 of there ip, why would they do this.
if you look at the older console, it doesn't say nintendo anywhere on it, the console just says sony playstation, Nintendo wouldnt have been developing consoles anymore and would just be making games for sony, this would have been bad cause then we would have never got any of the things we have today from nintendo, handheld gaming might not have even moved forward.
It was an add on, not a full console. I don't know why the prototypes were all in one, but I don't think they ever planned to sell such a system on the market. Sony wanted to receive almost all the royalties from CD games. Nintendo would still get 100% of cart games and SNES sales. Even if Sony had it their way, their add-on would still be dependent on the SNES.
I never heard about Sony wanting the rights to IPs. What games/series were they?
that console doesn't look like an add on to me, it looks like a proper console which says sony playstation, idk what they were but it most likely would have been the big 3 another guy seems to know more about it in the comments, there name was grok4spook so that person is probably better to ask, do you really think nintendo would have abandon that deal with out a good reason.
Also more people are saying the same thing as me so they also know the actual truth to this story.
You are conflating two separate projects that came out of the deal, both of which were prototypes: the Super NES CD-ROM, which was meant to be an add-on to the main SNES system, and a separate standalone console called the Playstation, made by Sony, which was supposed to be a Hybrid that played both discs and SNES cartridges right out of the box.
I am not sure about that conclusion. It is equally true to say that Nintendo working hand to hand with sony would have entaled Nintendo to be slowly "eaten" by Sony. Regarding the true story that is Sony discretely tried to make Nintendo sign a contrat that was completely to Sony's advantage. From that point of view, Sony was very sneaky and maybe Yamauchi was totally right to make that descision. You could rename this video in "The descision that saved Nintendo from becomming a little part of Sony" Would that be good? Well i think in the end things are doing pretty well For Nintendo AND Sony, so no real mistake in the end...
It's kind of a shame that they couldn't work out their differences. I wouldn't have minded a Nintendo/Sony Playstation or a mushroom kingdom hearts. Hell, I would have loved to see final fantasy characters in smash a long time ago.
Andy Frost Uh, neither Kingdom Hearts nor Final Fantasy are from Sony. They’re from Square
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why did nintendo agree to the deal in the first place? thats the questio , nintendo would have lost control of alot of their ips, money marketing revenue. the biggest blunder was not deaigning the n64 as a cd system. sony captured a markket which nintendo never bothered with. teens
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Some of this video is too vague. If the deal would have went through Sony would have had too much ownership and control over Nintendo IP's. Everything should have been read over very carefully before anything was signed. Period. Anyways, competition is great and both have benefited from it. I like the way it turned out. Two different flavors so to speak.
That intro is great
6:33 Wasn't the Gamecube Nintendo's first fully CD based system? I thought those discs were just smaller CD's.
Scott Fuller I think the reason it’s not is because it used Memory Cartridges and had no internal memory.
Antonio Panzetta That makes sense, thanks.
The PlayStation also had Memory Cards.
The Gamecube is Nintendo's first optical disc based system. It just used mini-dvds rather than full sized ones. I don't know why anyone would consider the Wii 'the first true Nintendo disc based system' when the only difference is the size (physical size and storage capacity) of the discs.
Mini-CDs don't count. :P
Man hear the storytellers voice makes me want to know more it sounds as awesome as Morgan freeman voice
The Sintendo. So good you'll feel naughty playing with your joystick.
I would argue it was their best mistake ever. We'd be looking at a much different Nintendo today.
To a certain extent it was a mistake on Nintendo's part. But it was for the better, more companies in the same market means more competition which is good.
We could of had Nathan Drake in Hyrule fighting Cole McGrath. Maybe in an alternate universe.
you know what, I'm actually happy Nintendo screwed up on this one. This blunder effectively kick started the play station and in the long run; creative differences in Sony and Nintendo gave us such a large variety in video games and I'm happy for it.
Man I wish there was a nintendo playstation for sale ( even without a game )
I go to a club every Monday. It's a coding-club. It's just a bunch of geeks coding and playing retro games. BUT this week, Jan, the creator of Retrospillmessen was there. The convention is in Sandefjord, where I live, so I will definitely be coming! HYPED.
NorwayDuck flotte greier
Space Cowboy1881
Yup.
i really though this video would be about how they nintendo mislabeled the L and R triggers as ZL and ZR
nice of the princess to invite us over for a picnic eh luigi?
Yeah I hope she made lotsa
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Why is the Gonzalez family symbol on your tag
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Charles Uzamaki ll There are supposed to be a couple, however none of them is near what the final product was supposed to be. The final product was only on paper. The magazine clipping stated that there was to be an onboard FX chip, so that CD games could take advantage of advanced rendering and shading (Starfox on CD perhaps?). So, sadly, anyone who tries to develop home brew games for this unit (you know it's going to be clone consoled at some point) they won't be able to make said proverbial Starfox CD game.... UNLESS.... they do what SEGA did (32x). Simply make a game cartridge that contains the necessary APIs, Chips etc... and the CD will have complete access to the necessary resources. Or they can finagle the existing system somehow and find a way to add FX to it.
1:58 The Father of Gran Turismo.. Kazunori Yamauchi.
Holy moly that intro
Rivalry is good, though.
I'm also curious how things would've turned out had Sega of Japan approved Sony's proposal to them.
Sega made a mistake in its rejection IMO.
@@PKMNFan4664 In Sega president own words ' Sony doesn't know how to make hardware or software.
5:35 What about the DS?
I thought this was a myth. I cannot believe what i'm seeing.
Nintendo touched me as a kid. They touched many children in a place thats hard to describe. They may not be on top nowadays, that hasn't stopped them from touching a new generation of kids.
Sheesh. That doesn't sound right. 😂
You sound like the intro narrator in starfox64
Has anyone noticed that the nintendo playstation has a an place to plug in earbuds but the ps1 and ps2 do not have a place to plug in earbuds
PogU this is a great video
Is that an echo mic? Lol
The idea of the PlayStation would be a good idea, if this were a next generation console with a CD, because the Play Station looks like it will be exclusive in Japan with puzzle and casual games, and it would be a failure. It's a good thing Nintendo rejected Sony's concept, because it would be a very weird era without technological advances.
The nintendo ds systems also use cartridges?
Can we get an extra video just with that intro?
0:58 1:01 1:04
Man, to think what could have been. Today's gaming landscape is mostly Nintendo's doing. They created a rival that they have a hard time keeping up with. And probably every time you hear about a Sony/Playstation milestone the folks at Nintendo kick themselves in the butt a little.
inexfan89 its great they created competition
MaxDowngrades sure. Competition breeds excellence. But Nintendo would definitely prefer to be on top of the gaming world. Believe me. When it comes to home consoles (the market Sony actually cares for) it's 3 out of 4 for Sony. And every time by a large margin. The Wii was a success but both Sony and Microsoft weren't that far behind. I doubt that the Switch will come close to catching up with the PS4 when it's all said and done. I think, depending on how long Sony wants to keep it alive, the PS4 could scratch on that 100 Mio Mark. The Switch will be a huge success but I think it's current novelty status will fade eventually.
inexfan89 Not far behind? lol. One could also look at Nintendo as a whole. So include handheld and among of profit made. Whole different light on things. Also huge lol on fade.
inexfan89 Switch overcame ps2, ps4 and Wii in many countrys as fastest selling Console. You Know that, right?
TheAlphaOmegaX3 Handheld was always a Nintendo market. So no need to include that. Being king of the hill in that market didn't stop them from losing money a few years ago either.
GameCube was Nintendo's 1st CD based system not Wii
What about the Famicom Disk System?
@@oscarramos5681 that uses floppy drive 💾
It’s funny that now a days when you say sony you think PlayStation
Just think if there was no Playstation, the FF7 remake would have motion controls!
Derek Gutierrez Well, there was a time where a FF7 remake was out of the question. We could have gotten nothing. At least this will be a midway point for the developers and the fans that keep asking for it.
Is that hedo rick with the nintendo playstation 11:45
Honestly if Nintendo would be working with Sony the Nintendo switch station would destroy Microsoft in a heartbeat there would be no competition lol but right now there is no competition in the handheld market Nintendo always takes the cake cx
Anim3 4 Life Actually theres well over double the amount of PS4's than Xbox Ones and at this rate the Switch could best the Xbox One in a year and a half maybe, if the sales keep up. Sametime, I'm Glade that they have competition.
Matthew Wells yup
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Atari Jaguar has Atari Jaguar CD, Sega Genesis has Sega CD, Turbo Grafx 16 has their CD add on , so hey Nintendo, where’s your CD Add on?
Nintendo: oh uh, we uh….we don’t have one
This is the case were its fun to ne norwegian
My dad has a sony cartridge disc combo of a game that we never understood was for i think its for this maybe
Useless piece of technical hardware. „It plays audio-cd‘s“
Wow, so it plays SNES games and audio-cd‘s. How legendary and useful that is. Amazing!
Hey its storyteller
what if Microsoft + Nintendo + Sony + sega joint forces and made a super console together 🤝🤝🤝 ?
I can't think of a more colossal fuck up.
Nintendo actually did the right thing. If the Nintendo PlayStation ever came out, part of the agreement stated that all Nintendo IPs ported to the system would have their rights transferred to Sony. Nintendo would have given Sony the rights to Zelda and Mario.
Ooooo maybe Mario would be in Spyro… or GTA 😁😅
Exactly!!!! And nintendo was not having that. If nintendo had only read the agreement and negotiated a better deal and things would gone better, but hey we got Nintendo and Playstation battling head to head giving us great games for generations to come
Now with the Switch and Sony not wanting to make a hybrid I think it's safe to say that currently Sony is no match for Nintendo.
the switch sucks
Mugiwara no Link nah. Kirby does
Your friendly average neighbourhood demon I was about to say what do you mean? But then I realized he really *SUCCS*
Or it just isn't the route Sony wants to go in
Naaah don't just shrug sony off that easily, they still know what they're doing.
You made a mistake in the video
Nintendo first console with disk was the Nintendo game cube
Game cube came out 2001 the Wii came out 2006
You said it at 6:31
I'm pretty sure the Wii was not the first CD system they made I'm pretty sure it was the gamecube
GameCube games aren’t technically CD’s
Hello what is the commonweath
Will imagine if Nintendo made the right move *things happen for a reason*
Maybe nintendo wouldnt exist
they would have split sooner or latter, i say it was better when it did so they did not fight over IPs
Whoever owns this, please do a 3D scan of it....
Blunder in sales? Maybe.. but n64 was a better and faster system.. with better games than the ps1
I always though nintendo was shady this video proves it
Video game consoles are ridiculously expensive and tremendously risky undertakings that draw the vast majority of their profits from the licensing of third party software, to the point where Sony doesn't even bother making making money on consoles sold and actually loses money on each sale.
Sony wanted 100% of the money from licensing third party software. Nintendo would have needed to be stupid to agree to such a deal.
I have one
Imagine if Nintendo and Sony had joined forces and continued to do so. They would dominate the world.
I don't think so, not in the US at least. That's why there's antitrust laws.
@@mhc121 nope if its collab that law dont apply and Japanese law is different from US law
Monopoly is allowed in japan theres actual literal sub sections in laws in japan that accomadate this. It wasbt until the 2000s japan government cracked down on companies "doubling" marketing or stocking by a company with multiple "companies" inside the actuall company. Its noy just a yakuza thing lol
6:07 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
00:30 Let's make things better, that's funny
1:26
Hello 👋🏻
Too bad to cancel the cooperation😭😭😭😭
I'm not sure Nintendo made a mistake. Everyone thinks if they hadn't made this decision they would have still been on top with the best system of the next generation, but if the CD component took off for Nintendo the same way, and Sony owned all the licensing, Nintendo would basically not exist now.
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Are Commonwealth Realm Norwegians?
Konrad the founder of the channel is Norwegian (he lives in Oslo), Joseph is from the US.
Commonwealth Realm Cool, I recognized his Norwegian accent, I’m Norwegian myself.
RIP alle som vil se denne som er russ i år og ikke bor i sandefjord
It seems that Nintendo PlayStation (PlayStation 0) will be exhibited in the auction
オークションで出品されるらしいですね
Nintendo's decision to part ways with Sony was a big mistake, it's inconceivable that if these two consoles merged, a great game would be created, and in the end it was Sony who ruled the console from the first to the fifth series to date.
So basically......Nintendo made their biggest competitor?
Don’t let this video distract you from the fact that the Switch is the fastest selling console of all time.
Fawn Well to do that the Switch needs to surpass over 155 units. So that might not happen anytime soon...
doesn't change the fact that it sucks
Mugiwara no Link Tell me, why are you so salty?
Mugiwara no Link dude you have to say that to everyone? Ppinions ecist you know?
Now the ps5 is
I love this story. It almost seems too dramatic to be real. Sony, feeling betrayed by Nintendo, creates the Playstation to spite them. Sony goes on to dominate the next 3 out of 4 home console gens. I wonder how things would be different now if Nintendo and Sony stuck together. Would the SNES CD be a hit? Would Sony and Nintendo continue to work together? Would they eventually merge into one massive Japanese electronics/gaming giant?
no it would have just been sony making the consoles and nintendo creating games for there consoles nintendo would never made, the game boy colour, GBA, n64, Ds, GC Wii, Wii u, 3ds OR switch all we would have now is a ps4 pro and thats it but with sony branded nintendo games which have turned into linear cinematic movies.
Pokemon wouldnt have existed along with many other series, cause sony would move all of nintendos devs to make games for the new sony playstation.
this is why nintendo stopped that deal.
Never underestimate the pride of japanese businessmen, still burning like the samurai of yore
Fat Tiger Sony is basicly that assholish child who gets what it wants. They didnt say "Nintendo Said No. Lets make a own Console" they litteraly went to Sega and learned everything from them.
They litteraly only exists because Sega of American being naive to the Point Sega of Japan had to say "No"
Luisangel Villagas I said 3 out of 4. Ps1, Ps2 and Ps4. I'm counting ps4 because the Wii U was Nintendo's entry into the 8th generation and it is a foregone conclusion that the ps4 will end up breaking 100 million units in a couple years and will 'win' this gen.
I'm not sure if the Switch will be considered a 9th gen system or 8.5 gen, but either way it's not strictly in the 8th gen like the xbone, wii u and ps4
So he died and the family just sold it. Just like that
Someday I bet that Nintendo will partner with Playstation again. Whether by that point Playstation is independent from Sony, or Sony hits rock bottom somehow, I think it's karma that they'll eventually come together somehow in the future. The two companies are different enough that they'd balance each other out.
I don't think Sony will have an issue for a very long time. Even if their other divisions are almost dead weight, the Playstation division is making money hand-over-fist.
They are both independent enough with different enough philosophies when it comes to game development/business strategies that I don't think they would work well together even if there was no longer bad blood.
Not really. The Playstation has been the most successful console of each generation expect against the Wii, which had a pull to casuals. PS1, PS2, and PS4 have all out dueled Nintendo consoles. The Switch could be different, but the Sony fan base is sustainable.
@@drsalt328 The moment Sony decides to go into the handheld market again, It will comeback strong and rival Nintendo. Valve went the ultimate direction and brought the PC market to handheld devices. If Valve continues developing and bringing an even better Deck 2. Valve will skyrocket and no one will be able to touch them anymore. Unless Microsoft also bring us a handheld device. The future for gaming definetelly looks awesome.
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