A Descent into Madness: Suguru Geto
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- Suguru Geto is a man whose existence shook the foundation of fate itself when he slowly fell from the grace of the Jujutsu Academy. He soon become unhappy with the status of the world in his madness and then worked to actively change it. Though what caused him to fall? Well to put it simply, Geto experienced one very bad day.
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The thing about Getou that makes his fall into darkness believable is that by his code of "protecting the weak" meant he already kind of looked down on non-sorcerers. He just needed the right amount of trauma and feelings of loneliness to be pushed over the edge
That and let's face it the job of jujutsu sorcerers is basically a form of pest control....the only difference is that the pests they face bite back and come from human depravity....knowing the things that they face come from humans and what they do is similar to high payed grub work will wear anyone down...
He might even be why gojo believes being slightly insane should be a job requirement... because geto was described to be very rational in a way but snapped
That and his personality of wanting to fight for the minority. I think he doesn't really actually hate all non-sorcerers, he just doesn't want sorcerers to have to sacrifice and live such bleak lives.
@@l.raphaelnery7299 true, look at how insane nobara, yuji and megumi are when they fight...so..yeah it should be a job requirement.
(spoiler warning)
in his defence, curses will kill people, and only curse users can defeat those curses. regular people are entirely defenceless to curses, and so curse users are basically sacrificial lambs for the good of "wider society" aka non-curse users. Geto realized this as well after seeing that Haibara was killed that they do very dangerous jobs which often times cuts their lives short, even for special grade users (look at what happened to nanami). There is no such thing as retirement for curse users, they are commanded to exorcise literally until they are disabled and can no longer fight (Todo) or die (many characters).
ok
I think Geto is the reason why Yaga tests a person’s motivation for becoming a Jujutsu sorcerer. He knows that people with lofty, noble and impersonal aspirations like Geto can crack, while people like Megumi, Maki and Nobara who all have more selfish and personal goals aren’t likely to stray too far from their goal.
Great theory!! This is already canon in my mind.
Fax
That's my headcanon too! He wants to make sure a student won't lose his way and turn into another Getou 😭
Wow, I really wish this was canon because it’s pretty damn good.
@@freeph78 I think Satoru would never become like Geto because he is, in a way, enlightened; standing alone, beyond such things as little conflicts between sorcerers, beyond struggles for power - because he >is< power. Killing them would be pointless, like a revolution that just replaces the old tyrant with a new one (eventually and inevitably). After all, Gojo would not want to be a leader of some Institution, that would be too much of a bother for him. He is the king, not some president or chairman.
Spoilers for Manga:
Of course, if he is released from the Seal, he will take his revenge on the higher-ups (or what's left of them), but that will be personal.
Like a lion killing hyenas which ate his cubs when he was away. On its own volition, the lion would not wage war on something lesser, like hyenas, because he is too far above them. It would be like a human waging war on ants. Why would we do that? Only if some ants would somehow invite our wrath, by, for example, killing a defenceless baby. Then we would eradicate them to not allow that to happen again.
Oh man, Gojo is such a perfect overpowered character, his entire personality, deranged as it is, perfectly fits his might.
He truly is like Sukuna - just that he still has some connection to the human world, his students. If they disappear, everyone is doomed.
I wonder if, in the end, defeating Ryomen will cost us Gojo - but not his life, rather, his sanity or loyalty towards our species. If all his students and loved ones die in the struggle... well, wouldn't that result in the rise of the new King of the Cursed Spirits?
Another thing that I thought really helped pushed Suguru over the edge was finding out from Yuki that they already had another star plasma vessel ready for Tengen, so the fact that Riko died didn't matter, which just further proved that everything he and Gojo went through ultimately ended up being meaningless as Riko's life was treated as nothing more than a commodity by the higher ups of jutusu too.
I don't think there was another one. Why would master tengen "evolve" in the latest arc.
@@heinzarniaung2915 You're right. There ended up not being one, but at the time, Yuki believed or had heard that they'd already secured another one so that's what led her to telling Geto that. Maybe Geto realized the truth later on too, but at the time, hearing that the person he tried to desperately save ended up being a throwaway vessel would've hurt him a lot.
@@jetstar157 the fact that we heard from Yuki that there's another Star Plasma Vessel yet we never seen Master Tengen possessing it since, kinda further the points that that Star Plasma Vessel probably gets killed yet again.
@@ShatteredGlass916 actually that ended up being a lie to avoid panic
Gojo realizing that as well makes it heavy.
"Does there really need to be a reason?"
Ominous words in that one page.
JJK Really is just a story where everyone is an MC
I mean, thats like how the world works
@@edriesanvicente2458 not typically in fiction though, I think you missed the point of the comment
@@edriesanvicente2458 no you’re all just npcs gangstalking me
One of the best things in jjk is that the world does not revolve around one man only but what makes the story really strong is by backing it up with other persons pov not just in one man's perspective and not with some half-baked backstory, i mean everything really makes sense and believable like how can you tell whether what perspective is correct or justified
Yeah love that about Kaisen, they still focus a lot on Yuji but give good chunks the story to make side or supporting characters be focal characters (hidden inventory arc, perfect prep, JJk 0 and culling games).
I love how GeGe fleshed him out like an actual human being. If you were in his shoes and saw so many sorcerers dying pointless deaths for ignorant people, you'd walk down the same path too. I firmly believe him defecting is a key influence in Gojo wanting to create a better Jujutsu society. Suguru just wanted a better way of life for sorcerers, and if that meant a sacrificing some humans along the way, then so be it.
Underrated
bro, he doesn't want to kill some humans. He wants to kill ALL of them. Only somebody completely insane could possibly justify that.
another aspect of geto's descent was seeing Haibara, his junior who had so much joy and personality, had died after he had gone on a mission that was above his pay grade. It was said at the start of jjk that it was common for higher-ups to send students to exorcise curses even when they were above their grade because of the shortage of sorcerers (woah i wonder why).
it's kind of the lead off from where he was going "exorcise, consume"- a grueling job without an end. Haibara's death made him realise that there genuinely was no end, that the end for most sorcerers is usually death, disability if they are lucky, generally at a young age. And these sorcerers died in the line of "protecting" non-sorcerers, not themselves or their own way of life. mimiko and nanako was the spark because it culminated his feelings of "we're totally disposable in this thankless job" and turned them into a realization that those people who he was protecting, who his friends had died to protect, ultimately saw them as subhuman.
I think i would lose it too ngl
“The strong must protect the weak” is all well and good, but if the strong must sacrifice everything for uncaring people, all the while feeling like they are slaves that *MUST* sacrifice their own hopes and dreams for those uncaring people? There’s only one way that’s going to end.
@@coltonwilliams4153Should more be "the strong must protect the good" or smth
@@coltonwilliams4153It’s ridiculous from the first seconds. Humans don’t protect ants, do they?
@@IAmGodHimself777ant farms?
Geto is proof that being a Jujutsu sorcerer breaks people. Definitely why they need to already be a little broken beforehand.
It's also proof that you have to have something wrong in your head to even be a part of it. Cuz a normal person wouldnt be able to handle what comes with being a jujutsu sorcerer
I think you missed two wery important key-reasons of Getos downfall.
1.Right after the mission he learned that there already was a new vessel for Tengen. Of course we, as the readers, know that there wasn't a new vessel, but to Geto at the time that fake knowledge made it seem like all their suffering with struggles and Rikos whole existence and death were meaningless.
2. After their failed mission a power gap between Gojo and Geto apeared. That means that now Gojo doesnt need help of Geto to exorsist spirits and he can go to missions alone. As a result, they spend less and less time together. That is proven by the fact that Gojo imediatly noticed that something was off with Geto. If they spend more time together they could talk about Getos doubts and changing worldview BEFORE the point of no return.
also Haibara’s death
All he needed was a homie to talk too
wdym there wasnt a new vessel???
@@kennynwafor2171 I might be wrong, tho. Spoiler. In chapters 140(I don't remember) Tengen tells that he started mutating, meaning that he didnt fuse with new vessle. It was a lie. There a theme of breaking fate. I think, usually vessle can be reborn, but sunsets she was killed by Toji, it broke her sycle of rebirth.
@@kennynwafor2171 Tengen lied in order to stop the panic. Tengen evolved naturally after the incident
Jjk has such great villains. So many shades of evil.
That pfp
@@sonataavalon6017 blursed
Im ngl Mahito (nonclue if that is how it is spelled) is my favorite
@@thevideogameprimates6486 mojito
@@thevideogameprimates6486 "OMG THIS GUY IS JUST LIKE ME!!!"
One of my favorite moments with Geto was when he acted all buddy-buddy toward Yuta while simultaneously insulting each of Yuta's friends.
I thought he just insulted maki he complimented Panda and Inumaki
@@_Zephster yeah, he literally said that sorcerers like them is what he wishes in the world that he is going to create, people of noble souls willing to lay down their lives for a friend. Maki being the exception.
Geto might not have considered Maki a monkey (she doesn't create curses after all) if Toji wasn't such an intricate part of Geto's trauma. Because Maki was trying to become another Toji, she reminds Geto of his most traumatic experience that spurred him into losing his faith in humanity. Might also increase his spite, that he sees Maki (unlike Toji) cares about her sorcerer friends, yet she is still so weak.
I love how they did him in the movie. The way he talked and acted was completely different from the Geto we see in the anime. A perfect setup for the twist we see in Shibuya.
Spoilers
The one in Shibuya was not geto tho
@@viralthing6011 Isn't that the point of his comment regarding the twist that it's not Getou
Yeah, that’s the point?
11:55 The dialogue bubble has the texts in parentheses, translated from black squares. The black squares here are basically showing that Geto is hearing a sound from animal, rather than from a human. At this point, he truly saw other non- jujutsu users as monkeys.
The dynamic between Geto, Gojo and Toji put the flashback arc on a whole other level compared to the arcs that came before
The thing I find fascinating about the characters of Sensui and Getou is that they were originally masters with a duty to protect humanity from evil. But had there world views completely shattered when they saw that in the end the very humans they swore to protect were even more evil than the evils they fought against.
Really makes you wonder which is more evil. A demon who has only known evil as it’s nature. Or a human who knows what’s right and wrong, but makes the choice to do evil anyway.
Depend ,our perspective of morals and value we have.
In the first place, good and evil and social constructs, not objective facts.
Honestly Getou might be my favorite character, his descend into villainy and the reason for it so well explained.
Same, he is my favourite after Yuji. I especially love the fact about Geto that you can relate so much to him and honestly, I can't view him as a villain when I look at his motives because they are reasonable to me, I would have snapped in his place too. He is not this kind of stupid villain who is just evil because he loves being evil or something like that- Geto instead actually is an extremely intelligent person which is why he even came to questioning the entirety of his life as a sorcerer. His actions are morally wrong, but if we are honest, humans and also the higher ups also act morally wrong way too many times without consequences.
Geto was opening my eyes to the gruesomeness of the world he grew up in, I really feel sad about the way everything went down
I'm honestly expecting if you analyze mahito it's gonna be building a bastard.
The most Hateable bastards
(Rip Jumpei) :'(
@@bimoprasetyo6862 ....and Rip many others as well due to him
@@mahmuuuu1279Especially the Passenger of that Train 🚃 in The Later Arc
@@bimoprasetyo6862 Junpei 😢
SPOILER
A bastard that successfully killed Junpei, Mechamaru, Nanami and Nobara(?).
One of the most interesting characters I had chance to see, such amazing questions were asked trough his character and showed way more depth in JJK then ever before, chapter 77 is probably one of my top 10 chpaters ever read just because of Geto and his amazing development in it.
totally agree
totally agree, his spiral made me question my own morals LOL
JJK's manga is back! Can't wait for your analysis on Hakari once he gets fully introduced.
Is it actually back?
@@502C.r.H we got chapter 153 last week at least
Hakari looks sick bro. Can’t wait to see him and his gf fight.
@@neil5694 *bf
@@neil5694 *boyfriend
First time I’m hearing someone pronounce Gege as “geegee”
Kenjaku as 'kenjuku' as well
@@Satepin yes, it’s very ironic as the person who is also breaking down the kanji of characters names lol
I can't help but wonder what would have happened to Getou if Gojo had been on campus when Yuki showed up that night. Part of me thinks that if he hadn't had all that behind him before he went to rescue Mimiko and Nanako, maybe he would have simply knocked out those people in the village that had been guarding them and taken them back to the school with him. Maybe if he hadn't been raised feeling so alone all his life before being thrown into the world of chaos that is jujutsu sorcery, maybe he would have been able to confide in his one and only dearest friend a little more. Personally, as a writer who thinks a lot about the possibilities with storylines, I'm particular to the idea of "if he'd shown up with these girls and spilled his heart out to Gojo, they would have both been on a different path than either of them ended up pursuing canonically." I think that Getou would have been a prime choice to be a counsellor or therapist of some sort at Jujutsu Tech. Not only for students, but for other sorcerers. Gojo speaks often of how sorcery is an "individual sport" and to me that says that even the adult sorcerers have a lot of baggage they need to unpack. But also I think if anyone knows a thing or two about trauma from a young age that comes with being a sorcerer, it would be Getou. Anyway, I love him and am constantly thinking about and missing him so very dearly umu
i've always thought if Geto didn't "snap" in that village killing everyone and Gojo was with him, he'd probably still have left Jujutsu Tech with the girls because the system was already very flawed in his eyes. but he could have started some sort of shelter for sorcerers in the countryside - saving them, teaching them how to control their powers but without the need to risk their lives for non-sorcerers. I'm sure Gojo would have supported him. Gojo would have still tried to fix the system from the inside the way he's been doing in the canon and Geto would have saved sorcerers outside the system. and they would have occasionally helped each other. the good ending 🥲
@@valeriyav2149This could be an awesome alternate universe timeline.
@@valeriyav2149”If you’d like to become someone new, go North. If you’d like to return to who you once were, go south.”
Finding out that is the weak who cause the same problems that affect them and seeing all the suffering they have to go throught is what made him snap.
Geto’s ability really reminds me of Soul Eater, defeating and eating their essence to gain power
Except Soul’s consumption wasn’t disgusting.
Basically Geto's life story: I had an identity crisis and became a cult leader
Hitler
Basically sums it up alright 😂
You know what this video great? The fact that he started by referencing one of the best Joker stand alone comics ever written. Killing Joke is my favorite Batman story of all time.
I love how Geto and Gojo somewhat trade ideals after amanai’s death.
Author has strong dislike towards cultists and conservative groups...
Two times in story we saw mindless cultists commiting unspeakable evil acts. Not even noticing their own actions.
Same with Zenin family, that were borderline cult themselves. So narrow minded that didn't notice their evil actions.
I don't think the author is like that
@@tremassicotte3172 nah he is definately like this.
Almost all main characters have strong sense of freedom.
It's pretty common in most of shounen series. Where characters have to confront authoritarian society in which they were born.
However, characters like Gojo or Nobara go further than that. They are not afraid to punch in the nose their parents or any authoritarian figure that would try to force their values onto them.
@@tremassicotte3172 It's also connected with one incident that happened in Japan.
As one cultists group Aum Shinrikyo commited terrorist attack leaking poisonous gas in japanese subway in 1995.
@@travistouchdown3822 personally, i think the author has a particular disdain towards "powerful conservatives elder rulers"-archetype. This is why he portrays the elders higher ups and Zen'in clans as some loathsome corrupt assholes, from wanting to kill Yuuji and Yuuta simply because of their circumstances, or Maki gets beaten down and continuously belittles depites her amazing talents.
This is maybe a weird stretch, but in a way the authors probably trying to gives a huge middle fingers to Japan's societal structure as a whole. Basically, he pulled "fuck you old mans, i do what i want, fuck your rules and traditions".
@@travistouchdown3822 which is hilarious cuz facsist types love shounens, yet they dont understand this lol
The most ironic part of Geto's character is that he was the one who convinced Gojo not to massacre the Time Vessel Association and prevented him from going down the exact same path he would would later spiral down into.
He saved Gojo but ended up losing an ally who could have helped him realize his dream of a Sorceror's paradise.
Geto better come back to the story, he's too interesting just to be dead like that.
Yeah i found him more interesting than that brain. I will be so mad if he doesnt come back.
@@monavity To be fair, Gege haven't delve deeper into Kenjaku yet. There are still mysteries around him while Getou was already an established character.
@@monavityYou find him more interesting than _the_ back-shot taker?!?!?
Regarding the Hasaba twins [MANGA SPOILERS]
It's a damn shame that they died without ever meeting the main cast. Being Geto's kids, they have a lot of potential to the story to learn about what Geto once stood for and leave something for Gojo to remember him by. Having a tormented curse user learn to see the world in a brighter way could be its own spinoff.
Theres gonna be a shit ton of curse users in the culling games so thats could easily be explored.
Thing is the world isnt so forgiving and kind especially among curses
@@itsjustvin7630 people with cursed techniques are still cursed individuals
@@gabrielvalenzuela4722 and the world doesnt care about that. More especially Sukuna doesnt care about your sob stories
@@itsjustvin7630 except if you're Megumi
I’ve been waiting for this. Geto imo has one of the most layers in jjk
Really wished we got more interaction between him and his family/team
Exactly 2 years since this analysis came out, and it’s interesting how we are currently in hidden inventory arc and are seeing Geto’s fall.
I’m surprised nobody thought of the similarities of Geto and Mogamett from Magi. They both once had an belief that Sorcerers/magicians were made to help people. They both went through multiple horrible and terrible events in their life that made them question their beliefs and make them go rogue. They both hate non-sorcerers/magicians. They both want a world where their kind and live and prosper. Like bro if these guys meet they would be besties
You deserve a like for even bringing up such underrated character of an underrated series
He’s easily one of my favourite characters and I didn’t want him to fall in to darkness but you could see it coming and it’s hard to see
Geto is literally a devil summoner
He realized that he was protecting people from the problems those people cause
Two different people. I feel bad for Gojo because he couldn't save his best friend.
His ability is basically a pokemon trainer
*demon summoning program
Shin megami tensei but you eat demons
He is JJK's version of YYH's Sensui.
The only difference is that Sensui didn't have that anti-human sentiment prior to seeing Chapter Black while Geto always had that non-sorcerer disdain - he just outright denied them in his head until his discussion with Yuki made him realize that he can embrace it.
Im gonna be honest here since the 2 season is going on, Geto is probably my favorite character ngl.
It’s Ash Ketchum
this video helped me understand the more inctricacies of his ideals, thank you
The simplest, most funny, and most generalized way to describe Geto’s powers is “Nate from Yokai-Watch”. I have no idea why, but that just popped into my head and I wanted to share it 🤣
This is so cool. Love how you break down the finer details of the character, from their name to personality and also include images of important scenes.
Junji ito would be so proud seeing getos power
Love the chad toji call out
Geto is a great character and very underrated!
Love suguru geto's character! serious flexin 🔥☠️
“Viewed himself as superior”? He is objectively superior.
I just binged the whole series in two days.......it was good shit.
You know guys geto was already dead before turning a complete villain being possessed by an evil sorcerer who is responsible for the 9 curse wombs by taking Kamo’s identity and doing the same with geto’s body.
I swear one of the biggest reasons I catch up with manga (or in Demon Slayer's case, finish it) is to hear your perspective. You never fail to make me think of the characters or settings of a story in a new light. Thank you.
Considering Geto was based on shinobu sensui, and Chrollo Lucilfer was as well, so perhaps they are inspirational brothers
Your analysis videos are so goos, I love how informed you are and how deeply you look into the source material. Going as far as to breakdown the characters names and meanings is so cool. Love your videos, keep it up!!
Hope for a Toji video, either glory or perfection. The dude is just badass
You absolutely need to do more videos on Jujutsu Kaisen
The relationship between gojo and geto kinda reminds me of obito and Kakashi not exactly the same but very similar
Naruto is mediocore trash
@@dhimankalita1690 okay 👌
Could not be more different, except for the hair and stuff ... Obito was a SIMP ... I mean decide the world is shit at age 10 because your girlfriend was murder AND GETO an adult with a mind set of survival of the fittest ... So no
@@omeletufomash bruh he literally said that rin wasn't the reason he did any of the stuff in the shinobi war
@@princezuluproductions5379 yeah, and the infinite flashbacks, filler arcs and Rin taking his hand when he died wasnt related at all hhahaha
The earlier concepts and ideology of geto and gojou just swapped.
Cuz in the flashback they had opposing concepts and then their concepts swap.
Jjk movie trailer made me happy, then this came and now i can see how great this day was.
I really liked the thumbnail. Also there’s been a nice quality to all of your videos, really been enjoying them all.
what I love of jujutsu kaisen is the battles the strategy different types of power clashing I mean in that sentence and blood manipulation vs someone like idle transfiguration
what i love about jujutsu kaisen is that they really wear their inspirations on their sleeve
Quoting Joker, peak society
I always thought he was like magneto. But sensui is a good comparison.
Cool video. It was well organized and gave a lot of depth without going too far.
If there's ever a good reason to bring actual Geto back, he'd be a beast for the good guy's side
Ohhh so Geto doesn't necessarily hate non-sorcerers just because theyre weak. He hates humanity because the ones sorcerers are trying to protect are really also just monsters on their own.
Easily one of the coolest characters in jjk
Meti, the name is Ken-Ja-Ku, not Ken-Ju-Ku.
When I read the Hidden Inventory arc all the pieces clicked about Suguru, i don't agree at any level with his philosophy but i understood why he fell at that path, for starters the revelation of how his jutsushiki worked was a major red flag about his mental health, even before Rika's death he must already have been feeling the effects of absorbing so many curses.
Do The Beauty of Meti『Not The Bad Guy』
You’d have to wait for that. I don’t have much information about Meti to make this possible.
I just hope Getou doesn't pull a "Liquid Ocelot" on us.
That'd be really stupid.
What?
Theory + Idea:
Sukuna's Innate Technique is "Subsume", allowing him to absorb the cursed techniques of those he eats.
-Yuji inherits Subsume
-Yuji eats Mahito to permanently exorcise him
-Yuji acquires Idle Transfiguration
-Yuji uses Idle Transfiguration on Geto to transfigure Kenjaku and Geto's souls, removing Kenjaku and giving Geto a chance at a redemption Arc
-Geto helps the gang release Gojo from the prison realm
Buddy, I don’t know how to tell you this, but Mahito is gone.
But geto already ate mahito
I always viewed Geto similar to an SMT character. Amazing video once again meti
Geto’s such an upsetting character when you notice the change live
Another banger video as always
Geto proves that Japan really should (and USA too) start taking mental healthcare seriously.
We now finally know what Gojo said to Geto in his final moments. It’s “We’ll meet again (right?)”
as stated in the opening of season 2
4:24 nrver expected to see HONG MEILING of all characters in a Jujutsu Kaisen video-
You know after shibuya and the shit that yuji went through i wouldn't be surprised if he became like geto
I’d honestly want Getou’s technique, I get to swallow balls AND control curses? I’m sold
Me: *Sees the mange panel of the woman.*
Me: *Gets a small flashback to when I saw something like that on Grimm (American TV show).*
Me: I'm not answering you!!
simply geto is the kindest and he care alot about other people and people who are weak instead of putting himself first so gradually he realize how evil the people and the world is so he turn evil as he was disappointed of and hate the weak who he used to think he have to protect and only he care about are the one who killed riko and many others
He really iut here calling gege gee gee
Geto has some crazy mouth game, the size of the orbs he compresses curse spirits into is roughly the same as a Billiard ball.
You make very good videos. The constant and consistent ending is also impressive
this is just my theory what if he's still alive he will take back his body to Kenjaku,he will change & reunite with Gojo after the manga ends
great video as always
His character kind of reminds me of Sensui from Yuyu Hakusho
Wow I didn’t know you was gonna make that comparison
@@tht_kidfrom_philly2154 actually he's more similar to hao asakura from shaman king
Geto is actually inspired by sensui
@@xblade149 never watched that
@@xblade149 I’ll check it out
Suguru Geto: The Mad Monk
“Am I beautiful” “I’m gay”
maturing is realising Suguru is essentially a glorified pokemon trainer
14:34 yo did this man say Kenjooku instead of Kenjaku.
Meti: He’s like a SMP protagonist
Me: *Pokemon Trainer*
Do videos on Mistral and Monsoon. Oh and Senator Armstrong. I wanna learn more about those characters after your videos on Jetstream Sam and Sundowner.
love meti's jjk analyses
His tips on escape yokai work pretty
Tried the your average trick on the yuki ona and a current running for my life
8/10
I can HEAR the effort put into trying to pronounce Geto's name correctly.
He's the hottest and my most fav jjk man 💗💗💗
To answer, both dead. Kenjaku has been decapitated
That just reminds me...WHEN THE HECK IS UZUMAKI COMING?!