What Happened to Market Square Arena? ABANDONED?
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- Before the NBA even existed, Indianapolis took the risk and invested in sports for its future. The popular Indiana Pacers of the ABA quickly outgrew the Indiana State Fairgrounds Coliseum. Years before other cities built arenas and stadiums for professional sports, Indianapolis decided to construct Market Square Arena to house the team, and despite almost folding in the ABA-NBA merger, the Pacers embraced their new home.
MSA also hosted the city's first final four and all kinds of events. Michael Jackson played his only shows as an adult in his home state at the arena during his Bad World Tour. In perhaps one of the most iconic concerts of all time, Elvis Presley performed at Market Square 7 weeks before his death in his final concert, giving rise to the phrase "Ladies and Gentlemen, Elvis has left the building".
Giving the early adoption of the arena compartively and Indy's constant push for more sporting events, the Indiana Sports Corp decided in the late 1990s to replace MSA with a Indiana high school basketball-themed fieldhouse that was designed for basketball specifically. The arena lasted two years after the new venue was built, but essentially an abandoned arena after Conseco Fieldhouse opened in 1999. Surprisingly, after implosion, the site was a gravel parking lot for over 15 years before Cummins and a luxury real estate developer built new projects in the arenas place.
What Happened to Market Square Arena? ABANDONED?
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Do you know of a Modern Ruin that's been long gone and deserves to be documented in our series? Comment below!
Memorial Stadium in Baltimore!
The Forum in Inglewood, CA isn't demolished, but it's sports / church / concert history is definitely one to dive into, as it's housed several Laker championships, and concerts alike. With the forum being purchased by Billionaire clippers owner Steve Baller, and with it being Adjacent to the new Sofi Stadium, and the soon to be Intuit Dome, I think diving into the forum would be a fantastic episode.
Love your work.
You should do a video on the KeyArena. It’d be cool to see a video on it’s long history, Rise, Fall, then Rise Again as it’s had a resurgence, and with the prospects of the SuperSonics return on increasing, seemingly a return to prominence will be soon.
Mile high stadium has a ton of history. Please do it next.
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One notable flaw in the design of market square arena was that the loading ramps were actually located along market street directly underneath the building, and would get backed up frequently. I've heard from concert Roadies that worked the arena that it was an absolute pain in the ass to get things unloaded and into the arena
I have heard that too. I personally will always remember that place as my first NBA game and the only time I saw Michael Jordan in person
That place was haunting, with how high the stands were, especially for opposing teams.
Thank you for making this video. Born and raised in Indianapolis. Was a huge fan of the Pacers throughout the 90s and early 2000s. MSA was such an interesting venue with its elevated floor held up over Market Street. I still find it crazy that the public could just drive right underneath it and how big of a security risk that was. Does anyone know if they closed that section of Market Street during events? I would figure they'd have to especially after the Oklahoma City bombing.
Last night was the first time I've seen bostons outside of the building. Nondescript ulgy asf
4:20 This arena has got to be the most majestically, eye-pleasing arena I have ever seen.
That natural lighting is 🤩
My high school graduation was held in here. A beautiful, majestic arena it truly is
I love Hinkle Fieldhouse. Butler University still uses it for basketball and volleyball. It looks a fair amount different today with all blue chairback seats (except for the blue bench seats at the top level) and an HD video scoreboard hanging over the court.
They ended up covering all those windows for several years. They renovated it a few years ago, and it truly is a beautiful facility again.
This is a great video. My only problem is that you seem to emphasize words at weird times but that only a nitpick.
ALL feedback is wanted! Appreciate your honesty and glad you enjoyed it!
Ha🤣
@@LaBreeceTV your doing a good job don't let the haterz got you
@@Jared40/videos Not hating at all, they're great videos but ive also thought the same thing to the point of attributing it to something in editing, or that these were fully AI created videos 😉
I thought it was just me being weird. The way his tone went up and down was very formulaic, almost robotic
I went there a few times to watch the Circus with my mom. I remember how beautiful and big it was. It was a very focused stadium--all eyes were drawn to the center. I remember when they demolished it. MSA was the last venue that Elvis played at, and I think its really cool that I got to be in the same stadium that he performed that last night in.
IHSAA Basketball Finals were moved from Assembly Hall in Bloomington prior to MSA hosting the event.
I grew up just south of Indianapolis in the seventies--didn't leave Indiana until 1987--this was nicely done, compliments all around!
Just found this channel, and I like it, but the voice feels like it is a children's science youtube video, but I wanna see more from this, as it was informational and fun
Wow….. I had no idea of those failed proposals! MSA was my childhood. Going to a Pacers game in there was like opening gifts on Christmas.
Mayor Lugar was a real visionary. He was adamantly opposed to the proposed Traders Point site.
His insistence that the Pacers new arena would be built in the heart of downtown was a major turning point in the city’s growth and injecting life into a dead downtown. MSA definitely deserves to be remembered ❤
I have been to Market Square Area and it was good to events. From the pacers to outside events. It was a good area. Loved it.
7:03 isn't a cross section of Market Square Arena as it ever existed. It's merely a rendering a possible renovation to include two levels of luxury boxes to remain economically viable with newer arenas. Note the dated bottom right corner of April, 1996. Instead the Pacers moved to a new arena in late 99.
Would love to see a video about Hemisfair arena , I remember going to a San Antonio Spurs game or two there before they played in the Alamodome
Loved MSA , so many memories. Thanks for the backstory
It's funny you revealed the origin of NapTown. When I was in the Navy('98-'01) one of my best friends ever, Wesley Burton was from there and it was the first time I'd heard of NapTown. I just took it as IndiaNapTown you know. I didn't think of it as a sleepy town of the past. Lol. Learn something new everyday😁
In my youth, we called Indy "a cornfield with street lights."
My parents went to many Indiana Ice games there. Including the very first game they played there.
Market Square was better than The Fieldhouse in so many ways. No one really talks about the poor infrastructure that The Fieldhouse has. It constantly leaks and at times Pacer games have been delayed because water was dripping from the roof. Lastly, Market Square had the space to accommodate a NHL sized rink that wasn't obstructed. The Fieldhouse was built the way it was to make sure the NHL would never put a team here.
Whenever the Indianapolis Ice (the IHL/CHL team) and later the Indiana Ice (the former USHL squad) would play there, it was always at awkward positions. Its one reason why the ECHL Indy Fuel never bothered to host a game there or continued the Pack the House tradition both teams had previously, and the only time you see ice used is by the Disney on Ice crew every January.
Lived here all my life. But im only 27. What is this leaky roof stuff u are talking about? Also any actual structual issues? Genuinely curious
@@pinkyellow1able If you work or have worked at Gainbridge you would know. The roof was built in a way that water collects in different areas however these areas are like flat roofs and leak. Basically there are holes the solution in the remodel was to add more roof covers that are used normally for sound to block water from dripping. There are no structural issues it’s just the roof was designed poorly. This was resolved when the FedEx forum was built which is basic an identical copy of the Fieldhouse.
When KeyArena was remodeled in Seattle in the mid 90’s the owner of the SuperSonics made sure it wouldn’t accommodate a NHL team too. Now we have a NHL team but no NBA team 😢
This is the second video I’ve seen on your channel where ZZ Top performed the final concert of an arena. 😂
May not be the last!
you forgot to mention the biggest event at Market Square, in 1988 Hogan lost the title to Andre
Market Square Arena is also the same venue where Andre the Giant ended Hulk Hogan's four-year WWF Championship title reign by defeating him in their WrestleMania III rematch with the help of a debuting Earl Hebner to win his first and only WWF title of his career (and his life) on the pilot episode of Saturday Night's Main Event's Friday night spin off The Main Event on NBC on February 5, 1988. Andre of course would hand over the WWF title to "The Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase afterwards. The WWF title was later vacated by Jack Tunney - due to deeming the exchange illegal - and set up the WWF title tournament at WrestleMania IV in which "Macho Man" Randy Savage won the vacated WWF title of course.
I had this in the video but then I got a copyright claim from the WWE and I had to cut it out.
@@LaBreeceTV Use pictures of Andre's WWF title win over Hulk instead.
Great video!! Suggestion for upcoming Modern Ruin could be the Georgia Dome. Really helped Atlanta kick off its downtown. Hosted two Super Bowls the Olympics in '96 and I think the Hawks even played there a few years, a few Final Four's SEC championship games Peachtree bowl games even a sugar bowl one year because of Katrina.
Do the Miami arena.
The original 92-97 pacers flooring is at this Gym downtown on the IUPUI campus.
Do one on the Mid-South Coliseum
Are you a Hoosier? Because some of those details you pointed out are surprising that you wouldn't found them just in research. FYI I hate that I was too young to have seen a ball game at Market Square Arena. The old timers say it was the best setting for basketball.
Home of Elvis’s final concert
Love your videos don't let the haterz get you 😒
My fav moment was watching WWF The Main Event Feb 5th 1988 when Hulk Hogan vs Andre The Giant for the WWF Championship on NBC
This was beautiful.arena
WWF "The Main Event" aired on NBC on February 5, 1988 from Market Square Arena.
It's main event, a rematch between then-Champion Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant, remains the highest rated pro wrestling match ever with a 15.2. It also saw the end of Hogan's 4-year run as WWF Champion and lead to WrestleMania IV. I was sort of a wrestling fan before this, but fairly casual. I mean, by the end, you knew what was going to happen. And then, it didn't. I was hooked, lol.
Omg omg I had this IN THE VIDEO and it was a 5 second clip with NO AUDIO and the wwe copyright flagged me!!! This literally popped up a month after I posted the video too so I just snipped the clip out. If you get towards the part where I talk about other tenants and events and it seems like a rough cut that's why.
Quick question do you keep up with today's wrestling🤔🤔🤔
@@LaBreeceTV Heavy D and the Boys Experienced Tragedy here when Dancer and Member Trouble T-Roy fell to his death from an Exit Ramp on July 15,1990.
Thats a younger Puff Daddy on the left of the Reggie Miller pic at 12:21 I think. This comment didnt seem so boring in my head
Are these videos about the arenas or about the teams that played there?
Good video
😅 this is the only reason why I watched this video because the Elvis I mean this is before my time but I grew to his music and to his legacy long live the king
Saw the Dead there in '76. Loudest concert I have ever attended.
Do the McNicholas sports arena in Denver Colorado.
WOW!!!
The Games.
The Concerts.
I miss Ole Market Square Arena.
NOW with Overpriced Apartments shooting up all over that space, and in general, downtown NAPTOWN is just a space of experimentation for Architects and Construction crews.
Good video but if I had a suggestion just talk in a normal voice you talking like you singing and it's annoying... Update actually I take this back I seen his new videos and he has approved and changed the way he talks 👍👍
Do Miami Arena
Market Square Arena was the site of hulk hogan and Andre the giant rematch for the WWF world heavyweight championship held there shown on NBC
Thought about Richfield Coliseum?
I am surprised by the number of cleveland fans who watch my channel, which currently lacks an episode based in Ohio, No shortage of subject matter however!
@@LaBreeceTV well, we don’t have any good sports to watch.
@@LaBreeceTV seriously though it would make a good episode about how they wanted to use the arena to connect Akron and Cleveland and all the concerts, basketball, hockey, soccer and everything else now left to nothing as it is now a part of the National park.
Compared to the venue now known as Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Market Square Arena was a dump. There were huge burn (or something) marks on the east side of the building for many years that were an eyesore. They never cared to do anything about them.
The seating configuration kept fans in the upper level very far away from the action. It did get very loud in there when the Pacers were playing well.
They added video screens in the corners in the 1990s, but they were of questionable quality even for the era. They should have just upgraded the center scoreboard for video since everyone was looking at the court anyway, but they didn't. I know it wouldn't have been HD back then, but there were venues with much better video experiences even at the time. At least they had something.
The design of Market Square Arena was certainly interesting, but it wasn't practical at all. Having the court suspended above an active street meant accessing the arena was a pain, and that went double for anyone loading gear into the arena at the docks.
I went to MSA many times as a kid, and when Conseco Fieldhouse opened, it was a breath of fresh air. It was beautiful and still is. I do think some subsequent renovations have removed a bit of the retro charm, but it's still a hell of a place to see a basketball game. MSA was not. Good riddance to it.
market square was awesome.. small.. but awesome. glad i was able to experience it.
totally unrelated but you mentioned the hoosier dome and hoosier hysteria sooooo in 1990 there was this kid named damon bailey… really good at basketball.. (he was so “famous” that while he was in high school people would pick grass out of his yard, because it was damons grass) and that year he played in the state championship at the hoosier dome. and there were 40,000 people in attendance… FORTY F****** THOUSAND
I seen market square a week before it got imploded
That was a very sad day. I couldn’t bear to watch it. Sick feeling in my stomach when riding the bus by the ruins 2 days later.
Do cobo arena or the olympia or
Og Boston garden
to be COMPLETELY honest i still EQUALLY really really LOVE the pepsi coliseum hoosier dome market square arena and you tube ALMOST as much as the indiana state fair gainbridge fieldhouse circle centre mall lucas oil stadium and indianapolis motor speedway
Too much stretching of words makes these videos hard to watch with all the history in it.
to keep being COMPLETELY honest these really really STRONG interests/hobbies still go in this EXACT order #1 indianapolis motor speedway/alicia silverstone #2 lucas oil stadium #3 circle centre mall #4 TIED the indiana state fair and gainbridge fieldhouse #5 TIED the pepsi coliseum hoosier dome market square arena and you tube
Pontiac Silverdome
WHAT HAPPENED TO MARKET SQUARE AREA? I RAN SECURITY FOR THE BACK DOOR! THE 👑 OF SCHOTTISCHE SAD TO SEE IT GONE.
tax payer money to build arenas is horseshit
MJ legit made Indy close that arena 😂😂😂😂
MSA was closed because it was a dated arena and had no suites.... had nothing to do with MJ. The Fieldhouse plans happened way before Pacers and Bulls were in the playoffs
I didn't know Danny Manning was an NBA Star? I thought he was mediocre at best, LOL. Just kidding.
Danny and the Miracles from Kansas Jayhawks national championship season.
Really awful way of speaking throughout the whole video
Maybe he has speach issues don't hate 😒
Yes I cannot watch his videos if he continues to talk like that sorry
market sq. arena was one of several new arenas built for around $ 4 mil. that opened up around `73-`74 to accomodate the new rival leagues of the aba-wha. several new venues housed one or both. market sq.-aba pacers, wha racers. houston summit-wha aeros, nba rockets. cincy riverfront coli.-wha stingers. denver mcnichols arena-aba nuggets, wha spurs. capital center-nhl caps, nba (former balt.) bullets. richfield coli.-nba cavs, wha crusaders. nassau coli long island-nhl islanders, aba nets. atlanta omni-nhl flames, nba hawks. and i can't believe with this 23:44 m s a history lesson not one word about it being the home-only for a short time-to the greatest player of not just the nhl but all sports for all the records held or demolished by him. the great one wayne gretzky. played half a season as an indy racer before being sold to pocklington and oilers in a cash deal in '77-'78 just before the racers folded for good and one year before the demise of the wha and merger of oilers, jets, whalers, and nords into the nhl. and sloppy-how could you forget about gretzky labreece tv?
He did mention Gretzky
@@toddwest6459like for two seconds