12 Myths & Misconceptions About Preservatives
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Thank you Marie! This is very important right now - there's a lot of misinformation fueled by fear of "chemicals" (as though chemicals don't exist in nature).
Thanks for watching! And I totally agree-"chemical" isn't a scary word!
UH chemicals and toxins. "I don't like putting chemicals in my hair" "your body is full of toxins"
I'm pretty sure that water is a chemical, and if my body was full of toxins... I WOULD BE DEAD.
It's the same as "natural". You know what's natural? Arsenic. So are mosquitoes (and the diseases they carry), and bacteria (the good and the bad kind), and poisonous mushrooms...
sarahdw93 It's crazy the kind of nonsense folks are spewing. When you stop and think about it, it's completely senseless...
I really hate it how some people refuse to use preservatives, as if they were sth. bad. They're absolutely necessary and inevitable.
Preach!
Great video. I make all kinds of skin care products too and ALWAYS use a broad spectrum preservative in water based products or products such as sugar scrubs that are used in the shower. My favorite preservative is Liquid Germall Plus. It's so easy to use and you only need to use a small amount ( .5% )to be effective. The amount of bad/dangerous information being spread by people online, is horrifying. You are a breath of fresh air in a world where so many people are denying FACTS. Good job. :)
Thanks, Michelle! I'm definitely with you on the LGP; it's practically foolproof, which is great for a fool like me ;) I do hope most of the bad info is just ignorance rather than malice, but wilful ignorance and malice can be easily confused for one another :/
Michelle Abbott how can I convert 5% of Liquid Germall Plus into ml? Also how would I know how much to put in 8oz of an oil mix that I make? Thank you for helping
@@mayyjayy8984 easiest to calculater oz to g, then multiply g amount by .08 ..
So true
Can you tell me about how long (expired) the product will stay long with germall plus?
Gonna check out your blog and site. So glad I ran across your videos. They are educational and comprehensive. I was so excited about DIY's items, I'm in the middle of buying butters, oils and essential oils and fragrances. Then I see one of your videos and I'm like dead stop. Although the products will be just for me, I refuse to go in blind. Thank you much. Huge fan here!!
Welcome! I'm so glad you're getting into DIY with a mind for safety-you'll be so glad you did :D Happy making!
Marie you're the best thank you so much for this video. Your good info is so so helpful and wonderful.
So glad I found you and especially this video. I had no idea.
Thank you! I love your manner of speaking. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching!
This was wonderful! And this is exactly why I've been hesitant to dive head first into diy skincare. I've been doing a lot of reading and love your site and videos.
Bookmarking this (and your reading list) for later... and to share with doubters in the future.
Thank you so much! Hopefully it helps you feel a bit more confident, knowing you'll be able to avoid some of the common pitfalls :) Happy making!
LOL at 10:06 "bacterial orgy..". This was very helpful and easy to follow. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! :D
WOW!!!! I'm beyond excited about finding your channel😄
YAY! Don't forget to check out my blog (humblebeeandme.com)-I've been blogging for over 7.5 years while I’ve only been on CZcams for about 3, so there is TONS more content on the blog!
I am a beginner with my skincare & haircare products. I follow most of your posts. Your information are truly an eye openers. Thanks for all information you are sharing. Have great day. 😁
Welcome & thanks for watching! Don't forget to check out my blog (humblebeeandme.com)-I've been blogging for over 8 years while I’ve only been on CZcams for about 3.5, so there is TONS more content on the blog!
Thanks TONS. You are such a great help for beginners like me. God bless you.
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching :)
Thank you so much for all of your informations! Im just starting to do some diy for fun and didn't know the importance of preservative. Your blog is AMAZING! 😍
Happy to help! Happy making :D
Thank you. So far I've experimented with really small amounts that I can use up within a few days, knowing that I need to learn about preservatives before I really get in to this. I really wish I could avoid it, but you have confirmed it; gotta learn about preservatives!
Yup! There is a TON to learn, too-I'm still learning more all the time. There's some good info in my FAQ (www.humblebeeandme.com/faq/) :)
Thank you for the common sense. I definitely face palmed, “Oh Duh! Of course stuff spoils! Why didn’t I think of that?”
No worries-thanks for watching! :)
Thanks so much for this humorous and information packed video 🙏🏼
Thanks so much for watching!
Thank you so much for your information.... You are a sharer and I like a lot about you... Keep doing what you love and much love to you too 😘
Thank you so much!
Thanx for the links I hope you will continue posting videos like that!! I find you are so reliable compare to some people with diy's
Thanks! I definitely will :) And don't forget to check out my blog (humblebeeandme.com/)-I've been blogging for over 5 years while I haven't even been on CZcams for one, so there is TONS more content on the blog!
I'm so glad I ran into this video and your CZcams Channel. I am very new to the DIY world but wanted to jump in and had no idea about preservatives! I will be purchasing your book today! I do have a question though, I notice you've said you like Liquid Germall Plus as a preservative but I've seen some great reviews about Optiphen Plus (since it's paraben and formaldehyde free). I'd like to know your opinion on it and why you choose Liquid Germall Plus. Thanks so much for taking time to do these videos!
Welcome! I use LGP because it's effective against gram positive and gram negative bacteria as well as mould, and it has a very wide effective pH range (3-8, but some chemists state up to 10). Optiphen Plus is less effective against mould and can destabilize emulsions. You can learn more here: www.makingskincare.com/preservatives/.
Thanks for these tips!
This information is a goldmine! omg, thank you.😵😁👏👏👏👍💜
Thanks, Toni! Don't forget to check out my blog (humblebeeandme.com/)-I've been blogging for over 5 years while I haven't even been on CZcams for one, so there is TONS more content on the blog!
You’re brilliant Marie. I love your Chanel. Thank you.💕👍🌎❤️🌿🙏🏻💕
Thank you so much!
Thank you! Very Informative.
Thanks for watching! :D
Good tips Marie......I have heard about the vitamin E being used as a preservative before too and the same tip you mentioned about this was mentioned by Soap Queen T.V as well.......so yup that totally isn't a big surprise that you and other soap makers give tips, because only real experienced soap makers or professionals will know the tips so it is good to trust them........because they obviously have learnt from trial and errors.......I loved this video.....
Thanks so much, Rebecca! I've found sellers at markets who think vitamin E is a preservative (and have been very rude when I tried to inform them otherwise), so this message cannot be repeated enough it seems!
I just ordered your book and I can't wait to put my hands on it!
If coconut oil is already a natural preservative, should I still go ahead and add extra preservatives if I'm making, let's say, pressed eyeshadows?
Very helpful. Thanks so much!!!!!!!
Fabulous especially as you're learning which preservatives to use when. 🙌🏻👍🏻😁
Thanks, Cyn!
Ummmm, excuse me ... but I actually really believe you. The other day, I got it in my head that I wanted to make my own soap. That just spiraled out of control and the first video I came across of your’s was about how to make lotion. Yo, I enjoyed it so much. Like too much, just because I do ... I think people are cool. Days later, I realize that I may be onto something so I am still learning and today, I wanted to learn about preservatives ... 4 videos and 37 minutes later and POW, we meet again. Just wanted to thank you for being so informative and so freaking genuine, YO!!!! I freaking suck at CZcams and social media, but I know I am supposed to subscribe ... wait ... I don’t even think you asked for a subscription!!! (I did it anyway) Sheesh you’re cool. No because that was supposed to come at the beginning ... that’s the formula for CZcams, the ask for the sub, like, AND for us to ring a bell ... you rebel!!!! You’re like a rebel and not a rebel at the same tim ... nvm ... you get the picture (I don’t even write comments!) ... you’re cool and I am thankful for the information you shared!!!! Thanks again, Sis!!!
Thank you so much! I'm so thrilled to hear you're having fun making things and have learned some helpful things from my channel :) Don't forget to check out my blog (humblebeeandme.com)-I've been blogging for over 8.5 years while I’ve only been on CZcams for about 4, so there is TONS more content on the blog! The FAQ (www.humblebeeandme.com/faq/) & Humblebee & Me DIY Encyclopedia (www.humblebeeandme.com/diy-encyclopedia/) are especially helpful 😄 Happy making!
I love love love your channel 🙌🏼
Thank you!
Fabulous and extremely well presented.
Thank you!
Thank you very much. i have learn many things from your blog and youtube videos. For example when it comes to preservatives, i always confused. but right now I understood why just one products has different preservatives instead just ONE preservative only? . this is because different preservatives have different action/purpose r like prevent bacteria, some others prevent mold/fungus or rancidity. Therefore it is necessary to use different preservatives .
OK thank you for replying
Thank you so much for this info.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for this 💕
Thanks for watching!
great thanks for your help!
Thanks so much for watching!
Super informative! Thanks
Thanks for watching!
The videos are extremely informative. You are very knowledgeable.
Glad you like them!
Don't forget to check out my blog (humblebeeandme.com) as well-I've been blogging since 2011 while I’ve only been on CZcams since about 2016, so there are a lot more formulations on the blog. The blog is also where my totally free ingredient encyclopedia and FAQ live, and they're both packed with tons of super-helpful information ❤️ Happy making!
Love love love this!!!!!!!
Thank you! :D
9:20 is so right! I had food poisoning for the first time a few months ago and the food was delicious and from a place that had never made me sick before.
Agh, so sorry to hear about the food poisoning!
Yaaayyyy. I love your videos. I wish I had found your videos earlier. So far ive only made for myself but was getting ready to make soaps and maybe a base for shampoo and lotions. Can you tell me if we need preservatives for soaps if they are melt and pour. I take it is already protected but I'm unsure. Basically I'm a newby. I make candles and wax melts with confidence but need to get more info before I go to making gifts etc. Thank you
Hey! You really should ask your supplier about the need for a preservative in the specific M&P base you are using. Some are true soaps, which are self-preserving due to their high pH, but some are syndet bars or blended syndet bars, and for those it's harder to say, and if the pH remains high but not high enough to self-preserve, preservative selection can be tricky. Your supplier should know these things.
I love your videos
i want to get into making diy skincare and i was initially seeing all these recipes and thinking, "great, but how long do these products last?". i've been trying to find anyone who uses preservatives regularly in their recipes because almost every popular website was full of "hey, let's make 500mL of toner at one time with just two ingredients - apple cider vinegar and witch hazel!" and i couldn't find info about how or why preservatives need to be used. then i found your channel and website so thanks for existing :)
Yeah, there is a definite lack of information about shelf stability out there-glad I could help, and good on you for asking the right questions :) Happy making!
So how would you preserve acv and which Hazel. I am confused?
I like this summary. I see a lot of diy recipes without preservatives, and they say it's good for 2-3 weeks in the fridge. But they also make like a one-year-large batch, it's crazy!!! Why???? 😯
I would love to see/read about another hygiene topic too. Tips on how to clean different containers, what's better not to reuse - which you give hints about in some videos, but a round up would be good. And also, I read you need to sterilize your tools and containers with alcohol every time and also not to use the same tools for food to avoid contamination. How do you do this in practice? I'm sorry if you already have something about these, I didn't find.
Have a nice day! 🙂
Thanks for the feedback and suggestions! I think I've covered some of these topics in assorted Q&A videos, though I'm not sure which at this point. You might also like this video: czcams.com/video/y2aQHu6wTao/video.html. I'll keep in mind doing a more complete video on general processes :) Happy making!
love this, my very new to the DIY world. Thanks alot for the great tips and videos.
quick question, from where can i buy liquid germall plus preservative in the US?
www.humblebeeandme.com/resources/ :)
Thank you so much for this important information. I’ve been starting to make soap😁 and am so excited to try making other ‘concoctions’ as well. Speaking of soap, I’ve gathered that, considering soap’s pH is higher, there is no need for preservatives regardless of the ingredients added. Is this true? Just double checking, you seem very intelligent and knowledgeable☺️👍🏻. Thanks for all the awesome vids!
Yup! High pH + low water content = self preserving, even in the face of some (usually) very large preservation challenges! Happy soaping ❤️
Also, grape seed extract is NOT a preservative!
SO true, oh my goodness. Its been proven over and over that the "preservative" powers it has are from the preservatives that preserve it, and ironically those are often things like parabens that people are trying to avoid by using GSE :P
Grapefruit seed extract is sometimes used instead
Humblebee & Me can you point me to the studies that have proven grapefruit seed extract is an ineffective preservative?
@@emilyprestigiacomo9606 This link at 14.00 minutes talks about this. Kenna is a biochemist. She knows. czcams.com/video/ZTZ15Xi5QaY/video.html
Monique Henderson I watched this video and I heard what she said, yes she is a biochemist but she makes no references to any studies conducted to back up what she’s saying.
You are always so great
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Thanks a lot, this is very useful x
Thanks for watching!
You are awesome i love it
This takes me back to my Pinterest boards. I also thought vitamin E was a preservative and even thought mixing zinc into my lotion would make a sunscreen!
this was really handy!!!
Thank you! 😄
Hi! Thank you for your great videos! What is your opinion on the Leuconostoc/Radish Root Ferment Filtrate as a preservative agent for the water solution of hyaluronic acid? The alternative is Leuconostoc/Radish Root Ferment Filtrate mixed with Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Fruit Extract. It that enough to make safe DYI cosmetics?
I have not laughed so hard while learning extremely useful information.
I'm so glad-thanks for watching!
Hello love your videos thank you! Wondering if you've come across a preservative that doesn't have a smell? I'm finding that Optiphen plus and preservative ECO have this rubber glove kind of smell :( I'm making sugar scrubs and without fail they stink when I use preservatives :( Whats the least amount of preservative I can use? The product label says .75-1.5% but wondering your thoughts on this? Thank you!
That is so interesting! Thank you! You’re so great to listen to! I do have one thought on this... if water based products/food/anything can’t be stored for more than a few days without preservatives, what about kombucha? I make it at home and apart from good bacteria, it contains water and sugar and it stands at room temperature for over 2-3 weeks and it changes as it’s supposed to do, gets acidic etc but how come it doesn’t get bad, but rather the opposite, the good bacteria multiplies and causes it to be really healthy and makes us feel great? Does the good bacteria “preserve” it?
From what I understand, yes, the good bacteria play a role, as does the acidity-that's why you need to include some starter liquid from the previous, already acidic batch :) I'm sure you know it's also possible for kombucha to mold if the batch is contaminated (I've read flavoured teas, among other things, can cause this), so I assume the relative lack of diversity of matter for microbes to consume also plays a role. I'm definitely not a kombucha expert, though!
what are you thoughts about geogard ultra? i use it and i like a lot,it requires a buffer though.
inci D-Glucono-1,5 Lactone ,Sodium Benzoate ,Calcium Gluconate.
and what about the combo sorbate-benzoate? i just need my cosmetics last 3-4 months max.
So informative, but I must admit, you made me laugh more than once!
Thanks so much! Happy making 😊
Great video! What about hydrosol how could l increase shelf life of a homemade hydrosol naturally? Thanks in advance 🌸
Awesome video, very educational. Am making body butter, sugar scrub and black soap for sale, although they don’t contain water,Am considering adding preservatives to avoid contamination Since they will be used in the shower especially the black soap gel and sugar scrub. What do you think?
Which preservative/s would you recommend when using HA in a body butter, scrub, lotion, etc.? And one more question.. when working with magnesium oil in liquid form, do we treat it as a water or an oil? That one has me baffled lol. TIA! Your videos are extreeeeemely helpful!!!
can you pleaaaase make a video about different prevers and their shelf life. Also what they work best in.
I definitely don't feel qualified to make such a video, but here's a great reference for you :) www.makingskincare.com/preservatives/
The 2 links don't work. Would you recommend Germaben II for body scrubs and body butters?
Also does it work when you add it to cold products?
Great vid.
Thanks for watching!
"a bacterial orgy" OMG you're so f'ing funny
I read your blog about preservatives but didn’t see anything about leucidal sf max and AMTicide Coconut for more natural preservatives (I know their shelf life is way shorter than the more synthetic preservatives and it’s more for personal use than to sell the products). Have you had any experience in using these? Any recommendations or comments about it?
Hi Marie, thank you for your videos, they are so informative. I have a question tho, i want to make a diy avocado oil, does it need a preservative? I hope you reply, thank you ! Keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching! Avocado oil isn't a thing you'll make yourself-it's a stand alone ingredient, like olive oil or canola oil. It does not need a preservative on its own as it does not contain any water :)
@@HumblebeeAndMe Okay thank you ❤
I was a sceptic too until I read why you need to preserve your products. Last thing I would want is to catch any skin infections, little micro yuckies or diseases such as staphylococcus, my gosh its scary.
Greetings all the way from South Africa, love your site and making my own lotions. Do you have any suggestions for more natural preservatives as the ones you mention I can not find in my country or I have to ship in making it 10x as expensive due to exchange rate .
You can find a list of many preservatives & their traits here: humblebeeandme.com/preservatives/. I'm afraid the complexities of global availability make it impossible to guarantee the things I have access to in Canada are available to you :(
Is euxyl k712 a good preservative for lotions or emulsifying body scrubs or even emulsifying face clay masks??
Hi
This video is great very informative. Thank you. Please tell me how to calculate the need of preservative when the formula has more than 50% of ingredients containing their own preservatives. For example if I m making a toner with rose hydrosol, aloe Vera juice, green tea extract or other extracts, they all contained their own preservatives. My preservative (geogard ultra) usage recommendation is 1%. Do I still add 1% or .5 to cover the water part which is without preservative.
Hi Monika, you need to use the percentage recommendation because the product that you are making is another different to each ingredient, there is the probability that you have a blend with a different pH to the range in which work each preservative in the components itself, so probably they are not working more now and also they are diluted, sorry if my English is no right to explain better the point, but I hope you understand (I am chemist).
So when using a preservative, what is the approximate shelf life, of say a lotion or shampoo, made with oil & water?
Thank you so much for explaining this. I'm just starting out and was nervous about using them, but you have changed my way of thinking. Thanks for keeping me & my family safe?
Hey! You'll find the answer to your question in my FAQ on my website at humblebeeandme.com/faq/ 😊Happy making!
Hi pls let me know can I use benzoyl alcohol as a preservative when i make glutathione and kojic acid creams .thank you
Hi Marie, I would like to make a batch of salt/sugar body scrubs using a combination of oils. As the scrub is most likely going to get water into it would adding a Broad-Spectrum like Phenoxyethanol EHG work as a good preservative. Thanks. xx
Maybe? I haven't worked with that one in particular. I've included some links so you can learn more:
humblebeeandme.com/preservatives
www.humblebeeandme.com/faqs/how-do-i-know-my-preservative-is-working/
Hello Marie, thanks for a great video. I am trying to make a shampoo for my beard, but having trouble determining a way to preserve it since it contains all natural ingredients. Any advice? Thanks:)
What kind of "all natural ingredients"? Mashed up bananas? Olive oil? Lasagna? Sand? It makes a difference, haha. In general, though, liquid germall plus is amazing, and if what you're making can't be protected by it, your formula needs changing.
Hi Marie , I've been watching your videos lately and must say i find them quite interesting and very informative. I am kind of new to DIY cosmetics since I have decided to stop purchasing lotions creams and soap from pharmacies. So started off making my own serums. I have Leucidal liquid which i ordered from Saffire Blue Ontario. After watching this video i have looked up on one of your pages to calculate percentage . I am giving you an example here and let me know if I am correct. Leucidal liquid 2% . My product will be 50 milliters that would be 50 x 2 = 100 . 100 ÷100 = 1. 1milliliter is the equivalent of 20 drops. Is this correct ?
Hey Domenic! You math is correct, but you MUST do this by weight, not millilitres, and that includes measuring the final preservative-no drops! You will need a scale :)
Very informative and well explained. Thank you. I use only hard butters ( shea, cocoa, mango etc), oils (almond, jojoba,castor etc), and essential oils to make body butter creams... no water...in a spotless clean area. Do I still need any kind of preservatives? If not how long will these last? Does it help to put them in the freezer? Thank you in advance ..pat
No water, no preservative! For info on shelf life, read this: www.humblebeeandme.com/faqs/long-will-______-last-shelf-life/ :)
Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Help!!!!
I’m trying to know what kind of preservative for serum is the best? Hydraulic acid
Yeahhh vitamin E is the big time myth. Many CZcams videos say vitamin E is their preservative. Google has a list of natural preservatives and it seems a lil shady; lemon juice, salt, grapefruit extract to name a few🙄
I just made some shea butter last night for family and I put a 6mos expiration. Now I'm scared because I made then added aloe vera juice and put it in my shea butter. I used Honey as a preservative and put it in a big mitt jar🥶🤔 I'm just gonna have to take a formulation class because I want to start a hair and body butter business. Did I mention that I suck at chemistry?😂
Great video. New sub😘
Hi Marie! I have this Aloe Vera Gel that I mix with a blend of three oils and since there is carbomer it turns into a really nice lotion. But since I'm adding oil to it, I'm diluting the solution for the two preservatives in the Aloe Vera Gel. Correct? I was thinking since I'm adding more oil it should be fine, but I'd rather not be ignorant about it. I make enough to last a week or two and was considering making enough to last much longer. I wanna be safe about this, should I purchase some of the preservatives as well and add them? Love your show, Thanks for your time!
Hey! It is is never recommended that you DIY using store bought complete products as ingredients (www.reddit.com/r/DIYBeauty/comments/6a2w49/beginner_guidelines_to_skincare/). Yes, you are diluting the preservative, but you are also adding ingredients that the preservative system may not be designed to handle at all-aloe vera gel is a different beast than aloe vera gel + oil. I would recommend doing this DIY from scratch, using cosmetic ingredients, so you can be sure you're creating something safe and stable.
Hi ! I want to start of by saying that I am glad that I watched this video. Thank you so much for this video and sharing all the amazing and super informative links. I just have a question to ask. I just made a body scrub which contains Rose petals,oats,coconut oil,sugar and a little bit of honey. Does that need a preservative too? Please do reply. :) Thanks
Hey! Personally, what I would do with that scrub would be drop the honey (or use dried honey instead), and ensure it never got wet by scooping out a set amount to use in the tub and tossing any leftovers (that way you aren't dipping wet hands into the master batch), and then you wouldn't need a preservative. As written, I would recommend including one. Also, I'm assuming your rose petals are professionally and completely dried :)
Anjali Atlani Oats can and will absorb water from the air and then they become one of the most perishable items that I can think of... they will start to ferment and sour within hours...
aw, the links in the description aren't working anymore. :(
Hello Marie, I have recently started making my own DIY Hair Oils and was looking into preservatives. From my understanding hair oils don’t need preservatives unless it will come in contact with water or wet hands. My question is, is that information true? If so, will I need to use a preservative for my hair oils since I apply the oil to my (wet hair) with wet hands? Also if I do need to add a preservative how much would you suggest adding to 8oz of hair oil? Thank you for your in depth information! It really answered a lot of my questions. You’ve gained a new subscriber 🤗🤗
Hey Meagan! Have you checked out the "preservations" section in the FAQ (www.humblebeeandme.com/faq/)? I tihnk you'll find your answer there!
Humblebee & Me Thank You so much for your response. I read all of your information about preservatives and you have been a BIG help! You’re amazing!
Can we use geogard ECT for a anhydrous scrub.
Can you help me also if this one is ok in the level of cosmetics preservative I remember my teacher is selling trelin P85 for her students…but it’s a industrial preservative according to my research…so I want to tell her that but I wanna make sure if this really not ok for skin care preservative
I have asked the same question on a little Bill videos hoping to get an answer are skin care products Cosmetics or not thank you
Hi Marie, I was wondering if you have any experience with using Tinosan/Silverion 2400 as a preservative? I read about it at Lotioncrafter, and a few of these links you posted, it sounded like the one for me, so I ordered some from Voyageur. Lotioncrafter says it works the best in products "at a pH below 7 with anionic and non-ionic surfactants, emulsifiers and with amphoteric surfactants," but I am not sure what the average pH is for the products in your book, or how the other information there applies. I'm really eager to make this work because Tinosan seems pretty similar to colloidal/ionic silver, and avoids the potential allergic reactions and rashes that very sensitive people might get from Optiphen/Phenotip/Phenoxyethanol/Germaben, etc, all of which freak me out based on what EWG's Skincare database says.
Hey Laura! I just did a series of workshops with Susan from Point of Interest and she told a story about a "natural" workshop she recently ran that used tinosan, and it failed pretty catastrophically-I think it was about 4 weeks before mould started to set in. Knowing how her workshops are run I am confident it was used properly, which leads me to recommend that you do not use it, ESPECIALLY for stuff going near your eyes!
What is a recommended preservative that can handle 170 degrees F? I am making a clay pomade and need everything to be poured into the container while it's still liquid. Is Liquid Germal Plus a good preservative to use? The pomade is very similar to making a lotion. Water part and oil part. I also have Phenonip.
Phenonip is ok up to 200°F, and Optiphen Plus is good to 176°C. If your emulsifier includes polysorbate 80 you'll want to use optiphen plus :)
Thank you so much for this video! It makes me feel like there should be a kind of public health campaign to get all the well-meaning but misinformed DIY's sharing preservative free recipes taken down, most especially from a place like Pinterest where they spread like wildfire. And I haven't yet looked into it, but I've heard of no easy and affordable way to test for these microbes at home the way we can test for pH. I really hope I find an option.
Question for you: I have found no recipe for an apple cider vinegar toner that includes a preservative. Dr. Axe even has a recipe that adds aloe and it still lacks a preservative. Am I missing something or are all these recipes from people who just don't know why they need it?
I agree! The fear of preservatives has somehow surpassed the fear of staph infections-likely because most everything we use is so well preserved that we don't know anyone who has ever suffered the ill effects of a poorly preserved product, so it starts to seem like it's not a worry. You can purchase home tests for microbes, but I haven't found any for sale in Canada-and in any event it is not as simple as a pH test.
Those people just don't know they need it. Pure ACV wouldn't need a preservative as it's self preserving, but you really should not put pure ACV on your skin as it's far too acidic to be good for your acid mantle. Once it's diluted it needs a preservative.
Thank you so much for the reply! You make a great point about us not knowing people who have suffered the consequences of poorly preserved products. It makes me wonder what the spectrum really looks like as far as contamination and its effects on our body. Since it seems that harmful amounts of microbes can't always be detected by sight or smell I'm curious about the harm that could go undetected by us because contamination didn't result in something as obvious as staph infection.
After reading your comment I did check around and found some at home microbial tests, though it seems interpreting the results may require additional study and assistance. Good to know there are options and at least a place to start that won't break the bank!
And that's what I thought about the ACV toners (and hair rinses) which are always diluted with distilled water or witch hazel since as you said it's too harsh at full concentration. DIY can be so wonderful but it seems that the Keep It Simple Stupid adage does not really apply here and we all should take our eduction and awareness of these things quite a bit more seriously, most especially for those who intend to sell their products. Thanks again for the reply and your great videos!
hi, thanks for this video. I have a question with the usage of preservative. I made liquid soap using olive+coconut oil, thickened with salt until it has syrup-like texture. I forgot to add preservative, and up to 1 month (now as I wrote this) the soap is still fine.
Did salt do the trick here, or plant-oil-based liquid soap generally has months of shelf life?
Hey! You'll find the answer to your question in my FAQ on my website at humblebeeandme.com/faq/ 😊Happy making!
Hi Marie, your video just probably saved me from so many future mistakes!..I just decided to start making face and body creams for me, my family & friends, and the last thing I want is making them sick! so thank you very much!
I'd like to ask you a couple of questions if you don't mind helping me..If I'm not wrong I understood that no water =no need for preservative, right? If I make a cream using shea butter, coconut oil, pomegranate oil, olive oil (or other seed oil like sesame oil etc) and essential oils, would it work without preservatives? how such a lotion would last in your opinion? also, can it be stored out of the fridge? ...one more thing ...I would like to buy some pure aloe vera gel; if I'm going to use it to make a cream with other oils what is the kind of preservative (and the quantity per gram of cream) you suggest I should put ? (also..will the preservatives not be already in the aloe vera gel ?) and can I just put some alcohol in it?
Thank you very much for your tips!!!
I've got some FAQs for you :)
www.humblebeeandme.com/faqs/aloe-vera-juice-aloe-vera-gel-thing/
www.humblebeeandme.com/faqs/long-will-______-last-shelf-life/
www.humblebeeandme.com/faqs/need-add-preservative-recipe-long-will-last/
www.humblebeeandme.com/faqs/what-preservative-should-i-use-how-much-of-it-should-i-add/
www.humblebeeandme.com/faqs/common-myths-misconceptions-preservatives/
Thank you very much!
What are your thoughts on new Leucidal SF Max?
Leucidal SF complete is cool
Do you like the preservative Leucidal SF complete? I have seen it used before and was wondering how you feel about it.
I'm afraid I've never worked with it so I couldn't say :)
If I only use oils to make my body oils (coconut oil, sweet almond oil, avocado oil, jojoba oil, grape seed oil, essential oils for fragrance, etc.) and no water, should I add any preservatives? I’m sorry if this is a stupid question.
Are there any recommended product testing strips that can be used for screening for bacteria, mold and fungi?
Lotion Crafter sells some kits that you can use to get a general idea of what is going on in your products :)
Hi! I just found your video and I know the "no water- no preservative"-rule but I always use my moisturizer on my wet face (with wet fingers) and I would like to use a preservative in my completely oil-based moisturizer because I am a very panicky person and don't want nasties to grow in it. How do I do this and which ones do you recommend?
Phenonip would likely be a good choice; you can learn more here: www.makingskincare.com/preservatives/. You could also scoop out the moisturizer with a popsicle stick so you don't risk adding any water to it :)
fantabulous video love it😍 i make homemade soaps and serums
So I want to ask if adding phenoxy ethanol only 1% and 2% to my products will it work as a preservative because phenoxy ethanol is a preservatives for cosmetics so please help or will you prefer me adding methyl paraben ? please do reply
Please read up on your options here: makingskincare.com/preservatives/.
I want to make face spray like after shaving spray.. please suggest what preservatives I should use for selling..
Please share what you know about Lactobacillus Ferment as a preservative
Rofl “all kinds of fuzzy” love that description! I have to admit, for ages I steered clear of making skin care items because of the whole preservatives thing. I have always loved science so I understood the reasons why preservatives were important, but firstly, it was confusing as hell, and secondly they were hella hard to get hold of. Soooo I stuck with soap....soap doesn’t need preserving cos of the basic.....”basic” nature(as in opposite of acidic) of soaps. I have however started to dip toes in....helped by having a supplier close by. One thing I would never do tho, is make anything containing water without a preservative....it’s just not worth it. And gotta say, people think that preservatives are scarey......going blind due to a bacterial infection from an unpreserved skin product is scarier.
Yes, absolutely! There is a lot of fear mongering out there about "chemicals"-I'm not sure when "chemicals" became more feared than "natural" threats like staph infections, though :/