don't make these language learning mistakes
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iclal (иджлаль)
19 years old
living in milan, italy
languages: turkish, french, english, italian, spanish, german, russian, dutch
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0:00 intro
0:43 unrealistic expectations
2:10 grammar related mistakes
4:13 not listening enough
6:30 too many resources
8:34 staying in easy content
10:01 not speaking with natives
12:31 lack of consistency
14:17 conclusion
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Hey, Iclal! Thank you for your content. I have a question: is Lingopie a platform on its own, or do you need to have a netflix account in order to use Lingopie?
İclal can I ask one??
i greatly appreciate you emphasizing the importance of learning grammar. ♡ recently, i've become rather annoyed towards some language learners who unceasingly say otherwise. it seems like a growing trend, in my opinion.
because people are always likely to accept the other type of advice more, when you tell them that you can learn languages with no effort people would be more interested, although that's not the reality
Yes to grammar but not very intensive at the beginning. For sure it should step in when you reach at mid level.
Dear Iclal, can you please make a recommendation about not forgetting the previous learnt language when we started to learn a new language?
I think there is truth to the opinion that schools focus a little too much time on trying to get their students to memorize grammatical rules but the pendulum has started to swing far too much in the other direction. Now there seems to be this idea floating around that learning grammar is a waste of time and it's better to intuitively pick up on grammar while consuming content in your target language. There have been so many instances where I put off learning certain grammar in my target language and the moment I decided to be proactive and learn about something, it instantly started to demystify so many doubts I had. I think the key is a combination of the two i.e. learning a little bit of new grammar every day and then applying that grammar and looking out for it in the content that you consume.
exactly! thanks for your comment
Yeyy, there were so essential tips. Thank you for this video🎉
Seni bu sabah keşfettim ve hayran kaldım özellikle yaşlarımızın yakın olduğunu öğrenince kendimde bir suçluluk hissettim az önce de polyglot olmak diye bir video izlerken senin sayfana bakıyım dedim ve yakın tarihte video yüklediğini görünce hemen girdim. Daha bugün görmeme rağmen enerjilerimizin uyuştuğunu da farkettim. İnşallah çok çok iyi yerlere gelirsin tebrikler.
I would be glad to watch a video in which you explain how you manage to organize your time and focus on both university and language learning. Something like time organization tips or a study with me video. You are an inspiration! Greetings from Bulgaria!💕
thank you so much! that'a great recommendation, actually i'm filming a weekly vlog related to this right now. hoping to post it next week
@iclaliano Thank you for replying! I am looking forward to it! Keep up the excellent work!
You are an absolute inspiration to me and many others, all the videos you make are very useful to me and my language learning journey.
thank you very much Iclal.
thank you so much for this kind comment 🤍
This video definitely gave me the kick up the ass I need, thank you😂 I definitely struggle with consistency
hahaha, great to hear that!! (we all do)
I’ve been fallowing you for a long time and i wanna say as a Turkish language student your advices are really helping me. Especially for keep my patience when i got tired 💙
i'm so happy to hear that my videos were helpful to keep you motivated! keep going 🫶
@@iclaliano 👩🏻🏫👊🏼✊🏼
I speak six languages and I wanna learn more this is my hobby ❤
Thats so cool, what languages? Did you learn them yourself or did you grow up with them/ learn in school?
@Uniyou0459 my mother tongue language is Arabic the second language is French and English I learned them in school . Also I learned Spanish Turkish and Germany by myself. And I wanna learn more inshallah 🙏 😌
@@emelkocer8736harikasın 💚
İ greatly appreciated you. Those of them really may have help to people.
That’s so cool that your are in Milan now.
Je te félicite 👏👏👏
You are a pearl
Benvenuta a Milano Iclal❤
Finally someone who gets it. I never understood the belief of learning language like a baby/child does. It makes no sense. An adult brain is not the same as a child's brain. Moreover, Krashen's paper was published in roughly 1982. If you think the literature/methods/research hasn't developed in 40 years, then go on ahead and keep learning via Krashen's method.
Every single true polyglot I've stumbled upon has focused on grammar.
thank you! i'm considering making a video talking about why we can't learn languages in the same way as babies but i have to make more research to offer more useful info
Gracias iclal
sayende yazin ispanyolcaya devam etme karari almistim ve su an b1 dersleri aliyorum🤧🤧
Btw can you make a video about how you decide what language you learn
i had a list of my languages that i wanted to learn in my mind since my childhood, and learnt all of them! currently trying to discover new ones from the same language families :)
@@iclaliano i think thats time for make a list what i want to learn thanks!
İclal can you make video for how we can start learn italian n how we can practice on it thx
İsveççe öğrenme videosu gelir miiii 🇸🇪🤌🏻
Thanks a lot İclal for all your great videos
Q. İs the lifetime palan for all the available languages or only for the one that i’m going to choose?
you're welcome! it's for all languages, i use my account for italian, russian, french, spanish, german..
Merhaba öncelikle,geçen sene okulumun hazırlık sınıfını geçtim ve bölümümü okumaya hak kazandım fakat birinci sınıf derslerinin çöpü ingilizce ve haftaya finaller başlayacak ama şu zamana kadar hocaların anlattığı konuları dinlememe rağmen anlamadım. Ne yapmalıyım
Can you tell me which music you have in the background please? ☺️
I love your videos! I’m not sure about something tho. Does listening to songs count as listening practice?
thank you for your comment! it does, but more when you do it consciously. i'd advise you to work on the lyrics of a song until you understand everything and then you can listen to that song over and over again. after some point you won't have to do this because you'd be understanding the majority of the vocab already
@@iclaliano thank you for the reply!
What resources do you recommend for finding listening content for less commonly learned languages? I'm learning Kazakh in the US and find it tricky to find good materials, especially from native speakers who are not mixing in Russian.
Abraços do Brasil iclal
Can u recommend some good youtube channels for each language u speak and learn? Teşekkür ederim 😭
I want to hear ur comment on studing a language for years without making much of progress, this happened to me and i discovered that because i don't have a system for learning... Could you elaborate on this.
Tahnks and respect from Sudan ✌️🇸🇩
thanks! it's because of all the mistakes you may be making, same happened to me with french because i couldn't make any progress after 3 years. then i just tried to realise my mistakes and fixed them (my mistake was not studying any grammar and trying to learn the language only by apps)
I believe yes, grammar is very important, but maybe when some people say “Don’t focus on it”, they mean that because they think we’ll still be understood even if we don’t have perfect grammar? Non-native speakers of a language may make grammar mistakes such as “I learn English five years ago”, or something like that, and we still understand what they mean. I know I would likely still be understood if I didn’t use the correct verb conjugation or if I don’t gender a word properly, and I wouldn’t choose to speak or write in the language only if I’m absolutely sure that I’m using the correct grammar. However, I will continue to perfect any language I learn. If someone corrects me, I’ll try to apply it. Even with English being my native language, I still want to improve it by expanding my vocabulary and figuring out which ways of writing or wording things sounds better.
you're right! i like studying grammar in a basic form and then forget about it and just wait for my brain to internalise everything i've learnt so far. you can still be understood without perfect grammar, but you should do your best to learn some rules. however, focusing too much on grammatical details just to speak in a more ''correct'' way would defeat the purpose of learning a language, as it doesn't directly helps you with communication skills
@@iclaliano Yeah, I think some people say it because they don’t want us to obsess over the grammar and then not move on until we perfect it.
Merhaba , nasılsınız , 10 dil bilmen acayip harika bir şey, suan ben 4 dil biliyorum, ve 5. Dil öğrenmek istiyorum, sizce ne olsun, aklıma gelene bir dil yok özellikle
Bildiğim diller : ispanyolca , ingilizce , Türkçe, Arapça
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Good suff ✌️
Can you share how are you learning Swedish?
i'm filming my process since july! gonna share it by the end of this year
Hello iclal,
i wanna learning german language less than 7 month and get a B1 certificate in goethe-instiute. And i get a A1 certificate، but it is not recognized. My question is: If I study in Nicos weg and some CZcams courses in my native language, talk to myself because I have no partner, listen and read, can i get a B1 certificate less than 7 month?
I’m really stress and afraid that I will not be able to get it and speak the language
I hope you can help me.
Thank you for your help, i appreciate that.
Hi Jalal, you need to build up to B1 by getting as much help as possible, pick a tutor for example or make online friends who speak German, and get the right material that is officially recognized to get you to that B1 level in German. The B1 certificate that you want will test many grammatical rules in addition to you being able to present your German in a structured way. CZcams "courses" and Nico's Weg you can do in addition to practicing with a tutor, who can correct you and who can pick the right materials for you. If you don't want a tutor, you need to do this research by yourself.
@@Sunlives Thanks a lot. I was thinking of taking courses with a tutor for levels A2 and B1 to help me practice speaking and help me correct mistakes.
I think participating in an online course with a tutor will be more helpful and speed up the learning process, while the nicos weg course will be useful.
do you have the same opinion as me?
@@Hamajalal5775 I think so. If you have the opportunity, I would also plan a visit to Germany when you are close to B1. Nothing is better for language learning than being in that country, and it will keep you motivated. If you need that B1 certificate, I would definitely take a course to guide you and do stuff like listening to podcasts or watching German Netflix in your free time. Viel Erfolg beim Lernen der deutschen Sprache!
@@Sunlives good, i found a Tutor and he say use a Schritte book for course, that’s be useful? Dankeschön,ich schätze es,viel Spaß 😍
I studied to C1 and speak German very fluently. Honestly, B1 is super easy. It seems hard when you haven't had enough exposure. My advice, use lingq everyday. Do the 60 mini stories 2 times. At least 2 stories per day. Use glossika for 2 hours per day constantly adding 200 new rep sentences per day and reviewing 200 rep sentences per day. Every day. I have done 550 hours of glossika and 200000 reps. I would also use italki 2 times per week with a teacher who gives feedback. But I wouldn't start until A2. I did italki for 3 hours per day. I would also take a Goethe's course. Intensive group class for 3 weeks A1, 3 weeks A2.1, 3 weeks A2.2, 3 weeks B1.1, 3 weeks for B1.2. I would also do B2.1, B2.2 and B2.3. I will guarantee B1 after doing the above. I would also supplement with CZcams videos by sprach coach, deutsch mit Marija, Natalia etc.. So many of them. At least 2 hours per day. My German was a super high B2 in around 4 months. I did 2 intensive courses per day. So averaging 10-12 hours of exposure per day.
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Did you really mean to say you spoke Italian AND Spanish in a couple of weeks???? If this is true, us mortals feel disheartened.
What a shame there are no English subtitles, greetings from Argentina 🥲
i'm thinking of adding english subtitles to my next videos but this one was filmed and edited more than 2 weeks ago! sorry for the inconvenience
Ahora sí que los hay
@@MrMywonderworld910 Si
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haftaya
Stockholm cok temiz ve bana gore fazla sakin bir sehir, kraliyet ailesinin orada kalmasinin etkiside var bence. Helsinki gittigim en cool, en metropol skandinav sehirlerinden birisi, benim tercihimdir.
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No options for English language learners at Lingopie 😢
Pro tip: act cute to manipulate. Got it! 🤣
It's hard to understand you when there is music in the background and I'm a native English speaker. Otherwise I liked the content.
милая🤍
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even a baby could figure the language out at least in ten years. i dont think that you have that much time
if you also listened to a language 24/7 and had no choice but to learn it, you'd actually learn faster than a baby!
@@iclaliano Exactly!
videolara çok cut atıyorsun bu da sanki akıcı konuşamıyorsun gibi hissettiriyor, biliyorum akıcı konuşuyorsun ama öyle hissettirdiği için bence cut atmayı bırakmalısın.
I think that’s just a thing people on CZcams do a lot to cut out unnecessary stuff and to make the video more enjoyable.
This is such a stupid comment. Plus she has nothing to prove to you, it doesn’t matter whether you think she speaks fluently or not.
@@melodieferrin3196 might be :) however, it sounds unnatural and if somone speak on CZcams and cut out all the time while she speak, it means that she didn't want to share what she said before. And we would love to see uncut version at least once, if it is possible.
Cut’lı videolar daha çok ön plana çıkarılıyor.. ve evet İclal’in akıcılığından, ne konuşacağını önceden hazırlamasından kulağa öyle geliyor olabilir. Doğal, günlük bir konuşmanın içinden bunları anlatmıyor tabii ki.
11:51 Italians watching this video: 😱😱😑🤌
I love your videos by the way. 😅
thank you!
When i see "iclal posted" AaAAaa! 🤍