Outdoor Sump Pump stops Yard Flooding. How we install an Outdoor Sump Pump
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- This homeowner has a flood in their yard after any good rain event. She had her landscaper install a dry well, but it's not big enough to handle this amount of water. She also hates the way this 'open dry well' looks and she would love to have all her lawn back. We show how we install a sump pump system using a 4 foot Jackel sump basin and Liberty pump. We also take away the top layer of decorative stone used in the dry well and return this to lawn. Thank you for watching our family working together
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Our Laser - Topcon RL-H4C, no longer available. Newer version - Topcon RL-H5A
Some of the tools shown; Kubota KX018 mini excavator, Muck Truck Max power wheelbarrows, Turco and Quail sod cutters
Chapters
00:00 Dawn's description of this project
04:35 Setting up and excavating
14:43 Installing the sump basin, pump and catch basin
35:49 Pump working and walk through
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You guys work smarter not harder! Always so organized! Love the channel
Thank you very much Dave. Have a great weekend
Id love to see how well this works during a downpour. The channel Gate City Foundation & Drainage actually shows the end result during a rain event. he goes back to the place while it's raining to get video of his work in action. Just a suggestion. Love y'all's vids.
Thank you
Yes, a great educational channel on drainage (as is this one), as I always enjoy content creators talking to us.
Please show video of it working in the rain! I would love it so much to see all your hard work pay off! @tyelandscapinganddrainage
Another great video. I really like how careful you guys are of the owner's property. Very nice work. 😀
Thank you very much Brian. We appreciate you taking the time to comment. Have a good evening
Great job as always. The yard looks much better without the exposed dry well.
Thank you very much Lee. I know the customer is very happy to see that go. Have a great weekend
You guys do great “clean” work. Amazing how it looks like you were not even there.
Thank you very much Larry. Have a great day
Excellent work!! Love how great the team works together and keeps the job site so meticulous both while working and upon job completion. You all clearly do things the right way. Well thought out. Perfect craftsmanship. Keep up the great work! This customer will never have a problem again because of your installation.
Thank you very much Stephen. What an awesome compliment. You made our day. Thank you again for taking the time to write such a nice comment.
You should show video after a heavy rain.
Great job, great team you make 👌I love how you show us how it all works. Cheers from the Netherlands where it is finally looking like summer after tons of rainy cold weather.
Shirley, Hello from New Jersey, and thank you for your beautiful comment. We enjoyed completing this project and we're happy you enjoyed watching us work. Thanks again and have a great day
The reality is, this project probably saved the pool from eventual failure. All that water oversaturating the ground, that close to the pool. ALSO Nick's "Full Bubble" 😂
A win win. Thank you
That was really enjoyable to watch! At first I was really impressed how Tom could gently take up sod with the digger, then I remembered…….thats nothing, I have seen him harvest potatoes with the same machine 😂! You are hard working, smart working, people!
@WhatWeDoChannel thank you very much. Harvesting potatoes with the mini is a lot of fun. thank you for this spectacular comment. You made our day.
Hey looks like mostly clay ( natures concrete) in area which is bad for drainage.
This is by far your best video. Your explanations are perfect and sooooo much better without the music! Amazing how the town could allow the neighbor to put in the pool and raise the property.
Wow, Thank you very much Joe. We appreciate your feedback and encouragement. We are trying to improve. Thanks again
Pretty slick way to load that dump truck with those Muck Trucks. I give you guys credit for hustling.
Thank you very much Stanton. Have a great day
I recently added a pump to a low spot in my back yard that fills up to around 5 inches or so after heavy rains, partially due to ground water magically helping to fill it until it runs out. So i dug a small hole, leveled or packed in some of the area with what looks like clay from nearby to direct the water to the pump so there isnt any standing water like there used to be, also put a mesh screen around the pump so it wouldnt suck up debris. Plugged the pump into a remote control outlet so i can activate it without having to go outside and without the need for a float switch as the pump didnt have one built in. Got a 5FT hose pointed up into the woods so it looks like a fountain when its on and it works like a charm.
(sorry for the long post) It wasnt until heavy rains in March that i learned why/how the area filled up the way it did, and thats after 24 years of living here and clearing up the backyard the past 10-15. Got the pump as it had a crap ton of mosquito larva hangin out in it. In the end it took me about a month or so of pumping a couple of times a day before the ground water stopped filling it up, been nice and dry for the past month, at least until we get a heavy rain again. Actually have 2 or 3 vids under this account if anyone is interested (i recently asked for help regarding it so thats why, not to seek views)
Hi Digital. It sounds like you’re heading in the right direction and getting it under control. I hope you’re able to solve your issues. Enjoy the rest of your weekend
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage Yup yup, remote controlled outlets/adapters definitely come in handy lol. I considered just filling up the area with dirt but i have no idea where to get free or cheap fill so i just settled for a pump. It does the job so cant really complain.
Have a nice week :)
I really enjoyed your reply, as I can learn something I had not thought of to improve my situation, which is similar to yours.
@@Matlockization Nice of you to say, hope you get it figured out.
@@DigitalIP Your welcome.
Excellent tutorial. No other means of describing it.
Thank you very much Scotty. Have a great day
Hey nice work You have to love those Kubota’s great machines for backyard projects. The bad drainage due to clay natures concrete.
Thank you Joseph. Have a great day, Tom
Another great video , thanks for sharing
Thank you very Rick. Have a great weekend
Thank you. Great video. Keep up the great work.
Thank you very much Jim. We’re happy you enjoyed it.
Very nice work. Solved a major issue!
Thank you very much Gman. We enjoyed completing this project and we’re happy you enjoyed it too. Thanks again, Tom
Be nice to see how the installation performs on a rainy day
If the customer sends us any pictures or video we’ll put them up. Thanks and have a great weekend
Superb, neat job. Impressive
Thank you very much Top. Have a good day
Awesome job!
Thank you very much Bob. Have a great weekend
Nice work as usual, Tye Landscaping!
Thank you very much Lee. Have a great weekend
Great system good job. I have a 36” catch basin in my back yard with a similar set up with a 90 gpm pump it has only been needed a couple times in 10 years, but saves my basement when it does come on.
Thank you Mike. It’s better to have and not need it…. It sounds like you have a great system. Thanks again and have a good weekend
Another great job! Enjoyed watching!
Thank you very much Jim. Happy Fourth
Beautiful. 👍👍👍
Thank you David. We appreciate it. Have a great weekend
Thank you for sharing!
Thank you Alexei
In U.K., blocking natural water crossing onto your land, like the pool people did, is illegal and could lead to prosecution. UK law would require the pool installation to also deal with the water once it was on their property but they could still continue to pass the flow on to their neighbour’s land provided that was historically how the water flowed.
Thank you for your insights Hyuklder. This is a tough one, but the town had to approve and give them a CO for this pool. Plus, water is supposed to be contaminated on our property, so I don’t know if the neighbor could complain about this customer’s water going to them. You’re right, I was told recently that we couldn’t put up a berm/raised bed that would stop water coming onto our customer’s property. The engineer said we ‘couldn’t impede the natural flow of water’. There are many sides to this issue.
Quality work. Never thought of a tether to let the basin fill up more.
Thank you very much Surebrah. Have a good evening, Tom
Another challenging project - well done! As always, warm greetings from Germany from Oliver.
Oliver, Hello from very warm New Jersey. Thank you very much for your compliment and comment. We always look forward to hearing from you. Thanks again, Tom
I am watching you from Austria. Great videos! 🎉
Hello from New Jersey. Thanks for watching.
Here’s a word of advice always always show the finished product working. That’s the most important part of the whole project is proved to us that it works correctly. Go ahead and film that and stitch this back onto the video. Everyone will like that idea.
Thank you, but you can see it work at 36:00.
Great job. In these kind of jobs, I would suggest that you recommend to the clients that they pipe their downspouts into the basin. With the increasing rain that's happening almost everywhere the ground is unable to absorb it all. I'm sure that the majority of the water accumulating in the garden is from the roof after several days of rain, only after that would the surrounding grounds and the neighbouring land be saturated and have no escape. This problem probably didn't exist 10 years ago. Now it's becoming the norm in many areas.
My motto is whenever it's possible, get it or pump it away from the property.
Hi Simon, we offered to tie the downspouts in, but the customer just wanted the standing water issue solved. She may do more in the future.
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage Thanks for the quick reply. I'm sure that'll help a great deal. As others have said, it would be great to see the system working during a downpour.
Nice real nice.
Thank you Beans. Have a great weekend
Nice job. I guess you can always pipe in a gutter and/or additional yard drain in the future if there is still water that sits on the surface.
Absolutely, thanks and have a great weekend
I know he mentioned the pump is below the frost line but the discharge line seems to just be about 6 inches below the ground. How do you keep those lines from freezing? Looks like an awesome set up and well done!
Hi Scott, There is no check valve. There will be no standing water in the line to freeze. Water in the pipe empties back into the basin. I talk about this at 22:34 Thanks and have a good day, Tom
Do you not have an 811 or other service to mark pipes in the yard? Would seem like something that should be done before a project like this.
Mark out was done. You can see a flag at 10:54. 811 doesn’t mark irrigation lines.
I hope the neighbors are helping with your electric bill.
we don't have that problem in New Zealand because all drains are hooked up to the house roof that goes out to the street then the street flows out fthesea or the rivers
Thank you for sharing Mike. Have a great day
the legal costs to force the neighbor to do something are far greater than the cost of diversion... saves the owners basement too.... so its all good and neighbor has a good neighbor in the owner❤
Very good point Brojer. Thank you for sharing and have a good day
In my State the Water-Code gives you both Engineering & Attorney fees if you win.
@@SlackerU .... works both ways.... if you lose.... years...stress... strife with neighbors ... loss of potential buyers.... lawyers win... engineers win... surveyors win.... maybe a good outcome or maybe not ... appeals.... retrials ..
@@brojerhwg5206 Not for the minimums. You own every drop of water that lands on your developed-land. & as of 2018 you can purchase LIDAR maps in my surrounding counties that aren't survey quality but they do show what your neighbor might have done. I'm arguing with my health department now where they refuse to enforce 'comprehensive drainage plans' for OSSFs b/c my State has Water-codes that I can pay extra for, NO I am not paying them for not performing & want them to stop approving cesspools.
@@SlackerU enjoy your day.... i have no idea what your saying in reference to what my.original comments were... you can have a nice discussion on your own... be happy...🤷
My regional OSSF authority sells LIDAR of our main large City along with all of the surrounding counties it controls for $200 every two years going back to 2018. I do wonder if your area has similar offerings. I haven't ordered the LIDAR access yet but I often do wonder if it would really help companies like yours to create solutions for these flooding issues.
I've never heard of this being available around here, and I've never had an engineer reference lidar. I will ask the next engineer I speak to. Thanks
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage 3DEP also has some LIDAR. Publicly available LIDAR should change your life, even though it is not survey quality. ngmdb.usgs has LIDAR on their topoview map from 2018, it's fairly accurate for free info.
Nice job, but there looks like there was enough fall for just a drain tile???
Thank you Nic. The town engineer approved us pumping just beyond the fence as long as there was no erosion on the town’s drainage easement. They would not approve us trenching 3 to 4 feet deep way into the town’s property to run a gravity discharge line. Our install was what the town would allow.
Great video, what does something like this cost in your area?
Thank you Dylan. I’m sorry, we don’t discuss pricing. Have a great weekend
I hope the neighbour is paying for these works, they must have known about the water flow before the pool was put in.
I don’t think so Michael, but I don’t get involved in that. Have a great weekend
The neighbors property is their property. You have to manage your own property. To say they should have to pay for it because they put in a pool, is kinda absurd.
Well the people getting the work done most likely would win a lawsuit if they went that route. When the neighbors put the pool in it was the direct cause of the ponding in their yard. So the only reason they have to get this installed is because of what the neighbors did. I would guess that the 2 households came to an agreement and they are splitting the cost. @user-ln7of9gs4s
@@user-ln7of9gs4s I am going to block the natural flow of water on my property, now your property is flooding, do you have the money to fix it? wait, I don't care because I am having fun in my pool.
@@user-ln7of9gs4stheir pool and berm stopped the natural flow of water.
Do you have a video while its raining with the system is installed
Hello Tom. We show it working at 36:00. Have a great day
Question.... Why didn't you reuse the stone as fill for the basin?
Hi Greb. I had plenty of soil to back fill the basin and add sod to the dry well. The excess stone wasn’t needed so we hauled it away. If I used the stone as backfill I would have had to haul the excess soil away. Soil was the better choice for backfill.
Why didn't you use the on-site stone from the old dry well area to fill in around the new sump basin? It would channel the water to the basin more effectively and cause less dirt and sand to build up in the sump basin.
Hi Jonathan, The sump basin is not perforated. The only way for water to get to the sump basin is through the catch basin and pipe. That way the dry well is used first. When the dry well fills up the water, that is filtered by the catch basin, flows to the sump basin. I had plenty of soil to back fill the basin and add sod to the dry well. The excess stone wasn’t needed so we hauled it away. If I used the stone as backfill I would have had to haul the excess soil away. Soil was the better choice for backfill.
Was there a reason why you didn't capture that downspout next to the sump pump outlet? Maybe pump it directly into the dry well?
Hi Jonathan, we offered to tie that in, but the customer just wanted the standing water issue solved. She may do more in the future.
Great point, the roof water might be a major contributor to the flooding problem.
Thank you for your insights. The roof water is a significant part of the water problem. Her property is well graded and that roof water gets to the dry well and pump. It would get the faster if it was tied in, but it still goes there. The customer wasn’t interested in tying in the downspouts at this time. Thanks and have a good day.
Amazing videos love to watch them I’m local in Marlboro love to see local family businesses on CZcams
Thank you very much neighbor. Enjoy the rest of your weekend, Tom
Meticulous. If any where there is a one word description of your work. All the way down to the upkeep of your equipment. Looking forward to the next project.
Thank you very much Richard. That's one of the nicest compliments we've received. You made our day! Thank you again and have a great weekend
Looks all down hill to the drain outlet to me, why the sump pump? am I not seeing an elevation here?
Gabriel, it’s uphill in all directions except towards the neighbor with the pool.
Was this EB? Looks familiar
Hi Mookie, I hope you’re staying cool through all this heat. It does look like EB, but this is Monmouth Co. thanks and enjoy the rest of your weekend
Is the cover and basin insulated? Otherwise I'm confused how it won't freeze since the ground above the pump has all been excavated.
Thank you for your comment Tyler. Our soil stays around 50 deg. at 4 feet year round. The soil is a good insulator and we have a black lid. I've been installing these basins like this for many years. Even without the black metal lid I've never had one freeze. A closed 'tube' like this in the ground is not the same as an open excavated pit. Tom
I don't understand it either, but my neighbor has an outside pump 42" deep just like this and he said it never froze.
Thank you for your input Joe. Have a nice weekend
Why wouldn't you put the sump pit where the dry well was?
The water could flow directly into sump, no need for a separate catch basin, and less excavation/labor.
Hi Maga. I explain this at 28:14. Thank you for your input
You failed to mention having the existing utilities located
For us every customer gets 2 mark outs. Once when we do the initial estimate and the 2nd, about a month later, when we do the work. You can see a couple flags at 10:54.
So, when the homeowner over waters the lawn with the "sprinklers" your sump pump will move all of the wasted well water into the back swale?!
Nope. Water goes to the catch basin in the dry well first. That dry well holds about 500 gallons. Once the dry well fills to the top it overflows to the sump basin to be pumped away. It takes a good rain to get enough water to make it to the sump pump.
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage I'm sorry IMHO sprinklers should be outlawed, just a horrid waste of precious water.
I live in rural NE PA; I have never watered my 2 acres of lawn.
Nice job, well done.
I understand completely. Thank you for your compliments and have a great day, Tom
Sprinkler installers put down lines no one can locate in easement and everywhere in the yard, excavator is responsible for all the repairs, what a deal.
Would a French drain not have done the same thing and for a lot less dollars.
No Chris, a pump is needed because we have to discharge uphill. French drains are for subsurface water. You need an open catch basin for the 1200 plus gallons of water on this project.
It's a pity their selfish neighbours raised the ground level. I would have channelled the roof water of this property into the water pump drainage system.
We offered to tie in downspouts, but the customer was only interested in solving the standing water issue. She may do more in the future.
check valve i dont see one
Nope, no check valve. We talk about that at 23:44
Getting water down and then pumping it up to let it flow downward.. I think this could be done without pump
Sorry, it’s uphill in all directions except towards the neighbor with the pool. Water doesn’t flow uphill around here
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage that means u have to dig deeper
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Regun, The customer's property ends at the fence. Beyond the fence is township property. The town engineer approved us pumping just past the fence as long as there was no erosion on the town’s drainage easement. They would not approve us trenching 3 to 4 feet deep way into the town’s property to run a gravity discharge line. Our install was what the town would allow.
You'll never be able to pull that electric cord out or any other in that 2" PVC plumbing pipe. When the pump goes bad- it's all got to be dug up again. 3/4" electrical PVC conduit could have had one cord in it; a female cord-cap on the end in the basin for a standard-length-cord pump and float (not special order 50 ft) and the other end go directly into the basement electric panel on a breaker. The panel had to be on the other side of the wall; the electric meter is right there. The pump on that outside GFCI receptacle is not good... poor electrical installation.
And the pump float is too high, pump flow to low, pump and catch basin too small. If it really pours, it will still flood.... it won't stay flooded long after the rain stops but during a big rain, it can still flood...
Dan, I spoke to Liberty pump tech support and asked if I could do the chord another way. Like using an extension chord that ran to the basin, but they told me I had to use their 50' piggy back chord. Customer used her own electrician to install the GFI outlet. I like your idea of the female 'chord ' run directly to the panel, but I'm not sure that would pass inspection. I will inquire about that the next time I have an install like this. The pump size was a concession with the town to be able to discharge to their easement. The town engineer's primary concern was erosion. So smaller pump and a larger dissipator pad to pass inspection. Thank you for your opinion. Have a nice day
That dry sump is going to be a mosquito breeding ground. Because it holds at least 50 gallons of water before it pours in to the sump pump that's going to sit there and mosquitoes are going to bread
That’s a dry well where the catch basin is. It can hold about 500 gallons and then overflows to the sump basin to be pumped away. The water doesn’t stay there. It percolates into the soil. Also called a recharge system, soakaway, leach pit etc…. The water is gone in hours.
Sucks that the neighbor caused this, but doesn't have to pay to fix it. I woulda raised the grade and screw it if the neighbors yard floods that raised their yard.
Wouldnt it have been better to put the catch basin, but also keep the dry well functional with the rock so not all the water has to be pumped raising electricity costs
Thank you for your insights MM. You might have missed this, but I explain exactly that at 28:14. Have a good day
Did you get the full bubble from Gate City Foundation Drainage?
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@mrollivetti hello Oliver. Have a nice weekend
No dig safe there?
Yes, You can see a water line flag at 10:54.
Pump won’t freeze but the pvc discharge lines will
The pump is 4 feet deep while the discharge pipe is at 7 inches.
Yeah like I said the discharge will freeze if it runs in winter when its freezing.
There’s no check valve. There will be no standing water in the line to freeze. Water in the pipe empties back into the basin.
Why didn't she just regrade her lot or put a french drain on the other side of the lot?
This was the best solution to get the water off her property and the town engineer signed off on our plan. Regrading would send all that water to the neighbor and probably get her in trouble. It’s uphill in all directions except the neighbor with the pool. No way to run a gravity discharge line to the other side of the house. French drains are for subsurface water not for over 1200 gallons of standing surface water.
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage That explains everything 🙂.
They actually need a Rain Garden installed.
Thank you Anthony, but the customer was very excited about turning that area back to grass. She loves her lawn.
I'm still not agreeing easily with your solutions in that I would want to know the elevation of the discharge-outlet vs the elevation of the pond-bottom. If the outlet-elevation allowed for a pipe to be buried 4 inches below the surface of the lawn then I'd have not approved the added complexity of a pump. That distance seems short enough for you to laser the lawn for a more comprehensive site-plan that included all the topography. Topography maps are measured using feet-above-sea-level, you could also have a topography map for the inches-of-soil above the water-table. I only have 0.4% slope & I used dual 6-inch pipe for a 1/2 acre.
I understand that typography doesn't look the same in video as it looks in person. The bottom of the 'pond' to the grass by the fence, also the property line, was almost a 4 foot difference in elevation. It was so obvious to the naked eye that I never set up my laser. You might also assume that this was the best option since the town engineer approved of the plan and passed us with inspection. The pipe was buried 7 inches
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage When States approve the design of communities they are required to have comprehensive-drainage-plans that I think require a 0.2% slope minimum so sure they may have 4ft of soil above the water-table but if a pipe was laid on the water-table might it avoid the need for a pump... My State has also banned ponding water on residential land due to mosquito habitat so they should have slope to the ROW for a gravity-pipe.
@SlackerU have a happy Fourth Bob
hell yeah dump that water to someone else's land let them deal with it lol
That’s the town’s drainage easement. That’s want that land is for.
If you're going to use a Catch Basin & a water-tight sump then you shouldn't have installed the sump int he middle of the lawn.
This was the perfect location. Right in the middle of the action. Easy to tie in the 3 pipes.
No check valve coming out of pump and using DWV fittings instead of pressure. Beats all I’ve ever seen
Its weird seeing an older lady doing this kind of work
That’s a stupid comment.
I think it's fantastic to see older people do all sorts of things that younger people do.
Boo hoo! 😨😨😨