Holly Holms has lost 2 fights since beating Ronda and no one hates her. Ronda's lousy attitude towards her opponents and the game is what is making people hate her. She did not put a fight at all, looked exactly the same as in the Holms fight. Look at Connor, the guy got rocked against Nate. But he faced the media, went back to the gym and trained hard and came back to win. That is champion material.
Ronda had to take a long pause after her jaw injury, and its Dana's fault for giving her a title shot right after an over a year pause, it's damn long for MMA.
Conor made excuses for his loss, retired, was forced to come back or be stripped of his belt, got his headline ufc 200 spot scrapped because he wouldn't fulfill media obligations, was forced into some media for 205 but had a stipulation of doing less media, and is still looking to make "money" fights instead of defending one of his titles against a deserving opponent...that's champion material?
cattalkbmx Quote the "excuse." I never heard him saying an excuse All I heard him say is that it was his fault that he lost. Retired? I've never of that either. A deserving opponent? Who was that opponent? He destroyed all the featherweights so there was no need to defend that title so he moved up.
the public turned on her and made memes about her due to her bad attitude towards media and her opponents. Nothing to do with her being exposed. As the saying goes be nice on the way up to everyone cause on the way down they will kick you or love you.
cause everyone loves to hate and kick someone who thought they was better than everyone and got made a fool out of and got there ass handed to them I'm telling you being Humble is important bro
Raider2k alot of people really seen the true side to rousey when she didn't touch gloves with holm at the start of there fight then offered out paige van zant just because she congratuled holly after the win I've never been a fan of rousey since strikeforce
ronda got cracked and didnt go down after eating multiple punches, i think she has a chin that shes not getting credit for. if she had good boxing her chin would be just fine.
Ronds chin isnt suspect but the way she just flailed her arms and poorly attempted to cover up shows she does not react well to getting hit with power or this time seemed woefully unprepared. If rumours are true that she did not spar during her training leading up to this fight then she really needs a better team around her. If your going up against the hardest hitting female striker in the 135ib division then surely one would assume you would develop some new techniques to either avoid or lessen the blows or get into the clinch faster and not from standing up i.e shooting for takedowns, double/single leg, parrying with her left arm which she had up during standing up.
It's a matter of being able to take a real punch and recover/respond properly mentally and physically. She doesn't have a glass jaw, but if she takes a stiff jab from someone that knows how to throw one her whole game goes out the window. It freaks her out more than it should any professional fighter. She could still win fights against much of the division because most of the women don't strike like Holm and Amanda, but she is never going to be champion material again.
WTF? you're a boxer! Her chin is not the problem she took over 10 shots from amanda straight to the face, with no headrolling or head movement! with 4 oz gloves, lol like wtf! Her boxing basics was the problem. She has horrible stand-up, THAT is the issue!!
ninetythree her boxing skills AND her chin is the problem. She was in la la land after the second punch. Amanda punched her again and she woke up. Lol watch the fight in slow motion
Y K no I never she was able to carry on, but no fighter could take those shots sqaure to the chin and still be there. She had NO DEFENCE! Stand there stiff as a pogo stick with no movement and you're gonna get TKO'd. Chin wasn't the issue here. Ronda is tough, just watch her 3 round war with Tate.
People aren't giving Amanda any props, she has serious POWER! Tate is one of the toughest and most durable female fighters and look what Amanda did to her. And Ronda took 10 + straight to the jaw without giving up or even falling. (BUT good stoppage by Herb Dean, she was out of it)
MMA gloves are smaller (4 oz) than Boxing gloves and Nunes is the hardest hitter in the Women's Bantamweight division. Ronda was tagged cleanly 27 times yet she wasn't knocked down. Though she was on the verge of it. She does have a chin. Her boxing skills are just amateur. Head movement, footwork, etc. are lacking.
The issue with Ronda is that from the first clean hit she took (and the first one was basically a jab) she was out of the fight. She didn't eat the punch like people with strong chins do. When Meisha Tate lost to Nunes she took punches without becoming completely disoriented. Look at Ronda's feet after she got hit... she wasn't moving correctly.. she had her feet too closely together.. she completely forgot what she was doing. She wasn't knocked out but she was basically out on her feet after the first punch she took.
TheOriginalLuffy I completely agree. I used to workout with boxers and while I'm not myself a boxer I know what good footwork is and that's not it. She hops like a bird, her head never leaves center line and she never ever changes levels. Her chin is not the issue. Her striking skills are. Rondas ground game is strong enough that her coach needs to be focused on cardio conditioning and striking. Were I Ronda I would leave Glendale fight club and that idiot Taverdeyan and humbly accept Duane Ludwig's offer to train. She should have spent these 400+ days off training on her stand up game and working on footwork.
TheOriginalLuffy Yea, that's what I thought. Ronda ate a lot of hard punches in 4 oz gloves and didn't go down. I think she CAN take a punch, just her skills needs more work, especially in the defense and footwork department.
Her chin isn't the issue, she just has shit striking defense, she stands straight up with her chin exposed because she's looking to rush in high for the clinch, she was able to get away with that against girls with no striking power but against people with power she has struggled. If she sharpened up her wrestling and started shooting for TDs rather than grasping for the clinch she would likely have a lot more success against heavy hitters.
Anesu Chimkupete She got stunned by a jab and was out of it after that. Yes she wasn't knocked out cold but you can tell after that jab connected flush it was pretty much over. How she was able stay on her feet it's everyone's guess. Probably of pride. Maybe Dean should've let the fight go on till she hit the canvas? Nah. And those punches weren't haymakers. Clearly, Rousey can't take a punch form top female fighters. She's exposed, her skillset is limited. Training over a year and still looked the same like the one that lose to Holm. She's slow, have average punching power and lacks basic skills. Taekwondo/Judo might have worked in the beginning but not when the others are seriously picking up on the sports. You can't teach a good chin, can't teach speed, might be able to work on your power with technics. She's going to have to forget what she knows and start over on everything in training if she wants to improve.
All the boxing skills in the world can't give you a true FIGHTER's mentality. And Ronda doesn't have it. You can see that she panics and breaks mentally when she gets punched by girls who know how to throw proper punches. Just a good quick jab alone to Ronda's face and the fight is basically already over. Just like Brock Lesnar. He's one of the most intimidating scary human beings on the planet... but when he'd get hit by guys who knew how to throw proper punches, he'd turn into a big scared pussy cat. And that's what happens to Ronda too. Like I said, all the skills in the world can't give you a FIGHTER's mentality.
she did not explain well when she said lousy dont know how to take a punch cause she took like 20 punches without falling,and yes u can train to take a punch, she had ZERO head movement,her big spoiled brat no shaking hands after loss pinata head was in d middle for target practice. and her coach shd be very ashamed and should publicly give apology statement to mma fans.surround yourself with honest people Rhonda, u got this
lol Mayweather fought De La Hoya, Mosley, a then undefeated Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, Marquez, Maidana, Cotto, Alvarez, Pacquiao ... get the fuck out of here.
and boxing math doesn't work. Foreman knocked Frazier the fuck out twice. Frazier beat Ali. Styles make fights. Wolfe would have brutalized Laila which is why they never rumbled. Risk vs reward.
Jake Cas Same as Mayweather? who did mayweather dodge? He beat Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Jose Castillo, Carlos Baldomir, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez, Miguel Cotto, Canelo, Manny Pacquiao, Shane Mosley, Zab Juddah and Marcos Maidana who were all Lineal Title Titlists at the time. Please dont comment about something you clearly have no knowledge on.
I don't get it when people say Rousey had no head movement...she had tonnes of head movement. Her head was snapping directly backwards numerous times in that Nunes fight....
My totally uninformed crazy theory is that the UFC needed to make female fighting popular. To do this they chose Ronda as a talented, attractive fighter and fed her fights they knew she could win or at least had a good chance of winning. Then she got cocky and started believing her own hype. She started doing all these things that had nothing to do with fighting, movies and such, and got too big for her britches in the UFC management's eyes. That's when they started giving her real fights. Along those lines, the UFC management knows that people love to see a champion rise but they like watching one fall even more: they made money on the rise and the fall of Ronda Rousey. And it was planned. Again, this is just my crazy theory. But it does sound plausible doesn't it?
Laila would get destroyed by any top female MMA fighter.Shes so full of herself,it's not even funny. The female boxing scene that Leila was a part of was one of the least competitive sports in the world. Leila should learn humility,but I realize as an Ali,your mouth has to be running all the time.
Ronda took a sharp jab and was already out of it. She stayed on her feet because of her conditioning and because Nunes does not knock out anyone with one punch though her punch is the best in the division. But Ronda's game is on the floor and her game plan should have been to take Nunes to the floor without any attemp to box with her. Misha had some success with Nunes with take downs and so did (Zingano) who beat Nunes on the floor. So where was Ronda's mat game? Ask her coach. Just my opinion.
Why did people keep insisting that all Ronda has to do is take the fight to the ground? Does'nt she first have get in close to get her opponent to the ground? People just assume that her opponent is just going to let Ronda get in close and go to the ground. These fighters today are training to avoid Ronda's strength and not let her fight her game. They are not going to let Ronda grapple with them. That would be crazy. You don't fight to your opponent"s strength.
+Ellis James, Truth! Maybe the opponent is supposed to be so intimidated by the reputation of the other fighter that they just get in the cage and go limp or something, LOL I do think that Ronda has the physical skills to come back if she wants. Question is, does she (still?) have the mentality, heart and desire to be a fighter? IF she does, in order to have a prayer of being champion again, she's got to (1) realize that what brought her this far will take her no farther. The Holm/Nunes Blueprint on how to murk Ronda Rousey is out there and has gone viral (2) it's a VERY good idea to ignore people who tell you what you want to hear in lieu of the truth and (3) she needs people who will coldly assess her skills, point out the flaws so that she be teachable and work on them and lastly (4) learn to recognize hype; play to it (if she wants) in public but NOT in training (closely relates to #2; kid, Floyd Mayweather would destroy you). If she doesn't have the heart for it anymore, call it a career. IMO, the longer it takes her to make a public statement increases the odds that when that statement comes, it'll be a retirement announcement. A defeated fighter who still wants to fight (IMO) would have shown up at the post-fight and said *something.*
I really don't see whats wrong with being memed and mocked after you've been held on such a high pedestal. It's just part of life, and if you can go through it, it makes you stronger. If you try and hide in your own bubble and pretend it doesn't exist, you won't grow as a person. Ronda stayed the exact same from her Holly fight. Her skills and attitude did not evolve. A bit of tough love could have done her some good.
Rousey couldn't even take a jab, she got stunned by the first punch. If it went on for 5 more seconds she would've been out cold she grabbed the cage to stay standing. lol
Ronda's chin isn't THAT bad; the problem is with her ability to evade punches and her decision/stubbornness to keep engaging against a better/stronger standup fighter.
"I believe she still beats 90 percent of the division... But whether she fights again or not, she’s still going to go down as an absolute legend. I do believe she could regain the belt and beat any of the other girls (in the division) at any given time.”Jon Jones
The only thing that kept making me cringe is how leila kept saying that she couldnt take a punch when ronda caught like at least 12 clean shots on the button in under 30 seconds lol. Thats taking a punch to me. She just has no defensive (or offensive) striking skills
Her chin has nothing to do with that fight she just gave up and realised it wasn't for her after getting the first punch . Ronda should donate her money to charity
That's what I said she got hit one time and gave up in the beginning I wasn't a Rousey fan but I saw her beat Zingano, Bethe and Davis I was like damn this girl has a fire🔥 burning inside her but it's sad because that fire is gone!!
She actually made a point not too many people have mentioned. She should've never been in there fighting Nunes for the belt after the Holly loss. The UFC basically paid 3million plus to destroy one of their only ppv draws. It's debateable that she even deserved an immediate title shot. Franklin got destroyed by Silva and had to work back up. Same with Hughes/GSP, Rashad/Lyoto, And others. Ronda should've came back and fought a grappler or someone less dangerous. Zing amp, McMann, Kaufman, Tate, Baszler etc.
Laila never fought the Holms and Nunes of boxing. People wanted Lucia Rijker, Anne Wolfe and Leatitia Robinson. Instead she fought people she already KO'd, fighters with weights in their pockets to make weight and MMA fighters doing some boxing.
Leila Ali is a great idea for Ronda. Ronda could also train with Jorina Baars - Muai Thai/ KB Champ 40-0 ! Kicks help for the distance, especially if you're the smaller one
Very classy response from Laila this time, but I dont think Rondas chin is the problem. The problem is her defense and all round boxing skill. Its just not up to the level of the top strikers in her division so she will always do badly when put against a striker. I really hope she fights again, but she needs to improve her stand up a lot, and fight some of the lower ranked fighters for a bit.
I'm glad to see many people in the comments point out Ali's nonsense about Ronda's chin. I was expecting the comments to be complete biased cancer. There's nothing wrong with Ronda's chin; in fact, I was surprised at how good her chin was in that fight knowing how hard Nunes hits. There are just too many casual fans who probably never heard of Amanda Nunes until they Googled her before she fought Ronda. Nunes hits extremely hard, unusually hard for a girl her size, almost like she weighs 30 pounds heavier than she actually is. I'd say she hits twice as hard as Holly Holm.
unless I'm mistaken. Wasn't it Layla who predicted Ronda would lose the fight to Holly Holmes because Ronda hadn't fought against an opponent who could penetrate a wicked punch?
you could tell that Ronda didn't wanna be in there just by the way she didn't even try to attempt to take her down cuz it's either that or Ronda is still thinking about her last fight and she scared that it might happen again
It's understandable that someone's chin isn't that great considering 13 months prior she was brutally headkicked. That type of damage can seriously take years out of your life and takes a very long time for your brain to recover from it
The question is, "Is Ronda a fighter?" Look at Aldo, he couldn't wait to get back in the fight game. No one else that i know goes into hiding after a loss.
Laila, with all do respect... The fans didn't turn on her. It was ego, arrogance, and how sh contradict herself. She's so disrespect to her opponents and the sport. We didn't turn on her, she turned on us.
Her problem was she lost all confidence completely when the first big punch landed, which was in the first 12-15 secs, she has a fine chin but she just lost her shit when the first punch connected to her face, it was all down hill from there. Again, her chin is fine, it is about confidence and get your game back through adversity or at least have a viable game plan to win, maybe tried to take Nunes down or some shit, I know it is hard from being stunned but she was no way near out from the first few punches that landed on her face.
she gots a chin, the messed up part is that she is scared a scared man can't win, she gets hit very hard she don't get mad or smarter she emediatly feels fear that's what happened fear,cause of what home did to her, she was hitting the mits on tv she was quick on point it was so good any child or normal person would say wow she's good, mitts don't fight back, I see her on tv hitting the mitts I'm like embarrassed for her.
I don't get this whole,"can't take a punch" thing. Now I agree she can't box, but she took like 40 strong punches square in the face in 48 seconds without going down. And she took almost two full rounds of punches by Holly Holm before she got KO'D by a head kick, all with 4 oz gloves. I agree she can't box, but I don't agree she can't take a punch. I think Laila Ali is just shitting on somebody who's down.
when Ronda was 12-0 Laila Ali trash talking say she will kick Ronda ass. It's good to see that now Ali not trash talking and kicking the person while she is down.
Laila Ali should talk about how she avoided Lucia Rijker at all cost. Not a Ronda fan by any means, but at least she never ran away from another fighter...
she can take a punch, she never fell down after getting smacked like a tennis ball a dozen times, the problem of course is the first jab that landed seem to force her to completely abandon her gameplan, after that she stopped defending and tried to clinch, it was ridiculous, she just hates being punched, remember that holly took her out with maybe the most powerful kick in women's mma, holly's legs are insane, teach her how to guard her face and box like a normal person and she'd be okay, those 48 seconds were mostly ronda trying to hug a boxer essentially, she went in like rocky balboa and lost like the real rocky balboa would lose against apollo creed
dont forget that Ronda did not go down despite those heavy punches,sorry Laila you are wrong cause Ronda has got a chin ,though she is not a very good boxer....please little respect for this girl who realy made me discover UFC
ronda can take one hell of a punch, her chin isnt suspect. she was out of it and still standing. nunes hits the hardest in the division. she hits any girls clean they drop. sara mcmann perfect example. i was impressed with rondas ability to take a shot.
She mad confident. but she is right, you gotta be able to take punches. Ronda gave no effort to block, her defence was terrible in that fight. Instead of blocking she just held out her arm straight
Saying you need to be able to take a punch to compete is a really broad and false statement. Everyone knows Overeem has a glass chin and has completed for years at the very top. Look at khabib at 205 and earlier fights. A jab wobbles him and he's undefeated. Any top coach will tell you the last thing they look for in a fighter is their chin. In fact, many of the top ones have said that a good chin can hinder a fighter because they're over reliant on it
She doesn't need a boxing coach, she needs to drop boxing all together and get a wrestling coach. She could then learn how to shoot for fast explosive takedowns. If she gets a bitch to the floor its a wrap so I'm stunned to see that she's never done this before and she went the boxing route instead
I am a fan of Ronda because of the intensity she brings. She has never had a boring fight. Many of the female fighters have become boring with their increased technical abilities. But Ronda has always come in with pure aggression, and it's exciting. But she has been too angry outside of fighting and disrespectful for me to like her. See her Holly Holm pre-fight videos.
i think ronda rousey chin is alright she wasnt knock down or out it's her boxing and defense need alot of work she is a grappler,judo,armbar expert not a good boxer who moves or hits and defends her self like one most of her wins are arm bar she needs a good boxing coach
lol i was surprised that she kept it respectful at 1st then she start taking shots at her hahaha. jesus people sure like to start kicking when you are down
if the idea of being able to "take a punch" is based on the condition of just standing there and let people hit you on the chin then NO ONE CAN TAKE A PUNCH because that is exactly what rousey did. she wasn't defending properly with footwork or movement, so she was eating everything that doesnt mean she cant take a punch but that she doesnt know how to defend or roll with the punches.
Smh Millions, didn't understand why the hatred at first. But you have guys in Kalib can't even get 200k, and countless other top 10 contenders in multiple divisions getting screwed in compensation. This is also a backlash against the established. I compare it Gracie vs . M Hughes... I mean really Dana?? Hughes even had balls to say " Gracie is past his prime, and shouldn't be in run with him" and Gracie refused to tap.. Tap Rhonda
Laila: We all go down!! it happened to your father, iron Mike, Alexis Arguello, Roberto Duran, and every other famous fighter in boxing or MMA. It's just a matter of time. Ronda was never one of my favorite fighters, nighter are you, but I would never put a fighter down after suffering a lost. In this life sometimes you win, and then you don't....carry on!!
Holly Holms has lost 2 fights since beating Ronda and no one hates her. Ronda's lousy attitude towards her opponents and the game is what is making people hate her. She did not put a fight at all, looked exactly the same as in the Holms fight.
Look at Connor, the guy got rocked against Nate. But he faced the media, went back to the gym and trained hard and came back to win. That is champion material.
Pradhyumna Gupta couldn't agree wit you more
Ronda had to take a long pause after her jaw injury, and its Dana's fault for giving her a title shot right after an over a year pause, it's damn long for MMA.
Conor made excuses for his loss, retired, was forced to come back or be stripped of his belt, got his headline ufc 200 spot scrapped because he wouldn't fulfill media obligations, was forced into some media for 205 but had a stipulation of doing less media, and is still looking to make "money" fights instead of defending one of his titles against a deserving opponent...that's champion material?
cattalkbmx Quote the "excuse." I never heard him saying an excuse
All I heard him say is that it was his fault that he lost. Retired? I've never of that either. A deserving opponent? Who was that opponent? He destroyed all the featherweights so there was no need to defend that title so he moved up.
Yeah because Holly Holm didn't get destroyed like Rousey
the public turned on her and made memes about her due to her bad attitude towards media and her opponents. Nothing to do with her being exposed. As the saying goes be nice on the way up to everyone cause on the way down they will kick you or love you.
that was beautiful
experiment54
Love it. Well said.
I agree with this stay humble and Lela ali is beautiful I'll let her box me lol
cause everyone loves to hate and kick someone who thought they was better than everyone and got made a fool out of and got there ass handed to them I'm telling you being Humble is important bro
Raider2k alot of people really seen the true side to rousey when she didn't touch gloves with holm at the start of there fight then offered out paige van zant just because she congratuled holly after the win I've never been a fan of rousey since strikeforce
ronda got cracked and didnt go down after eating multiple punches, i think she has a chin that shes not getting credit for. if she had good boxing her chin would be just fine.
no, she only needs an helmett with a visor, and she will do just fine. I mean, she did BLOCK the punches (with her head.)
Ronds chin isnt suspect but the way she just flailed her arms and poorly attempted to cover up shows she does not react well to getting hit with power or this time seemed woefully unprepared. If rumours are true that she did not spar during her training leading up to this fight then she really needs a better team around her.
If your going up against the hardest hitting female striker in the 135ib division then surely one would assume you would develop some new techniques to either avoid or lessen the blows or get into the clinch faster and not from standing up i.e shooting for takedowns, double/single leg, parrying with her left arm which she had up during standing up.
Danny1 pa we can all see her chin. she has a chin. You're wrong.
It's a matter of being able to take a real punch and recover/respond properly mentally and physically. She doesn't have a glass jaw, but if she takes a stiff jab from someone that knows how to throw one her whole game goes out the window. It freaks her out more than it should any professional fighter. She could still win fights against much of the division because most of the women don't strike like Holm and Amanda, but she is never going to be champion material again.
Joe Colombo yeah she took them but she was buzzed and her legs were gone. She was 1-2 punches away from going down
WTF? you're a boxer! Her chin is not the problem she took over 10 shots from amanda straight to the face, with no headrolling or head movement! with 4 oz gloves, lol like wtf!
Her boxing basics was the problem. She has horrible stand-up, THAT is the issue!!
ninetythree her boxing skills AND her chin is the problem. She was in la la land after the second punch. Amanda punched her again and she woke up. Lol watch the fight in slow motion
Y K no I never she was able to carry on, but no fighter could take those shots sqaure to the chin and still be there. She had NO DEFENCE!
Stand there stiff as a pogo stick with no movement and you're gonna get TKO'd. Chin wasn't the issue here. Ronda is tough, just watch her 3 round war with Tate.
he is right, you have no clue what you are talking about.
People aren't giving Amanda any props, she has serious POWER! Tate is one of the toughest and most durable female fighters and look what Amanda did to her. And Ronda took 10 + straight to the jaw without giving up or even falling. (BUT good stoppage by Herb Dean, she was out of it)
ninetythree only the cage stopped her from falling she was tkod
Their not saying she can't take a punch, their saying as soon as she gets hit she goes into panick mode and looks like she wants no part of fighting.
MMA gloves are smaller (4 oz) than Boxing gloves and Nunes is the hardest hitter in the Women's Bantamweight division. Ronda was tagged cleanly 27 times yet she wasn't knocked down. Though she was on the verge of it. She does have a chin. Her boxing skills are just amateur. Head movement, footwork, etc. are lacking.
great comment....keeping it Real.
The issue with Ronda is that from the first clean hit she took (and the first one was basically a jab) she was out of the fight. She didn't eat the punch like people with strong chins do. When Meisha Tate lost to Nunes she took punches without becoming completely disoriented. Look at Ronda's feet after she got hit... she wasn't moving correctly.. she had her feet too closely together.. she completely forgot what she was doing. She wasn't knocked out but she was basically out on her feet after the first punch she took.
TheOriginalLuffy I completely agree. I used to workout with boxers and while I'm not myself a boxer I know what good footwork is and that's not it. She hops like a bird, her head never leaves center line and she never ever changes levels. Her chin is not the issue. Her striking skills are. Rondas ground game is strong enough that her coach needs to be focused on cardio conditioning and striking. Were I Ronda I would leave Glendale fight club and that idiot Taverdeyan and humbly accept Duane Ludwig's offer to train. She should have spent these 400+ days off training on her stand up game and working on footwork.
TheOriginalLuffy yeah, Ali clearly joined in on the ronda insults.
TheOriginalLuffy
Yea, that's what I thought. Ronda ate a lot of hard punches in 4 oz gloves and didn't go down.
I think she CAN take a punch, just her skills needs more work, especially in the defense and footwork department.
"You can't train some bodies chin to take a punch"
Classic! 😂😂
she hot until she start talking, her voice deeper than her dad is burried 😂
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wow, not funny at all.
Not funny...
You're just jealous because your squeaky ten-year old pre-pubescent little boy voice hasn't dropped yet and your balls haven't fully formed yet.
Dick. When you learn to spell properly then maybe you can drop a joke. How can you make fun of anyone, you're called Zabuza 😂😂😂
DAMN...she is just stunningly beautiful!!!!
Carlton J. Smith : yup. She's bad as hell. Most of Ali's daughters are.
She's just a flawless specimen....even the deep voice sort of adds to her allure!
Peace my brother.
Rhonda? being beaten up?
Carlton J. Smith your got good taste man
Thank you brother Roberto!!!
She is absolutely gorgeous!
Right?
Her chin isn't the issue, she just has shit striking defense, she stands straight up with her chin exposed because she's looking to rush in high for the clinch, she was able to get away with that against girls with no striking power but against people with power she has struggled. If she sharpened up her wrestling and started shooting for TDs rather than grasping for the clinch she would likely have a lot more success against heavy hitters.
Adam Luckey 👍
Anesu Chimkupete She got stunned by a jab and was out of it after that. Yes she wasn't knocked out cold but you can tell after that jab connected flush it was pretty much over. How she was able stay on her feet it's everyone's guess. Probably of pride. Maybe Dean should've let the fight go on till she hit the canvas? Nah. And those punches weren't haymakers. Clearly, Rousey can't take a punch form top female fighters. She's exposed, her skillset is limited. Training over a year and still looked the same like the one that lose to Holm. She's slow, have average punching power and lacks basic skills. Taekwondo/Judo might have worked in the beginning but not when the others are seriously picking up on the sports. You can't teach a good chin, can't teach speed, might be able to work on your power with technics. She's going to have to forget what she knows and start over on everything in training if she wants to improve.
Adam Luckey ur right but she has to learn to punch not box just punch. aND THERE NOT TEACHING HER THAT.
All the boxing skills in the world can't give you a true FIGHTER's mentality. And Ronda doesn't have it. You can see that she panics and breaks mentally when she gets punched by girls who know how to throw proper punches. Just a good quick jab alone to Ronda's face and the fight is basically already over. Just like Brock Lesnar. He's one of the most intimidating scary human beings on the planet... but when he'd get hit by guys who knew how to throw proper punches, he'd turn into a big scared pussy cat. And that's what happens to Ronda too. Like I said, all the skills in the world can't give you a FIGHTER's mentality.
she did not explain well when she said lousy dont know how to take a punch cause she took like 20 punches without falling,and yes u can train to take a punch, she had ZERO head movement,her big spoiled brat no shaking hands after loss pinata head was in d middle for target practice. and her coach shd be very ashamed and should publicly give apology statement to mma fans.surround yourself with honest people Rhonda, u got this
Leila Ali is too damn hot
Laila Ali is such a classy, bright, and beautiful lady! No wonder her Dad was so proud
yeah Laila foight a bunch of nobodies and avoid the skillful ones
oh and beat the lady that k.o.'d Anne Wolfe yeah ok if you say so lol yell
BOX5 BASTARD that doesn't mean anything . Ronda beat fighters that had beaten Nunez and it didn't make any difference.
lol Mayweather fought De La Hoya, Mosley, a then undefeated Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, Marquez, Maidana, Cotto, Alvarez, Pacquiao ... get the fuck out of here.
and boxing math doesn't work. Foreman knocked Frazier the fuck out twice. Frazier beat Ali. Styles make fights. Wolfe would have brutalized Laila which is why they never rumbled. Risk vs reward.
Jake Cas Same as Mayweather? who did mayweather dodge? He beat Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Jose Castillo, Carlos Baldomir, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez, Miguel Cotto, Canelo, Manny Pacquiao, Shane Mosley, Zab Juddah and Marcos Maidana who were all Lineal Title Titlists at the time. Please dont comment about something you clearly have no knowledge on.
"you can't train somebody's chin to take a punch." - "The Gospel" by Laila Ali
I don't get it when people say Rousey had no head movement...she had tonnes of head movement. Her head was snapping directly backwards numerous times in that Nunes fight....
My totally uninformed crazy theory is that the UFC needed to make female fighting popular. To do this they chose Ronda as a talented, attractive fighter and fed her fights they knew she could win or at least had a good chance of winning.
Then she got cocky and started believing her own hype. She started doing all these things that had nothing to do with fighting, movies and such, and got too big for her britches in the UFC management's eyes. That's when they started giving her real fights.
Along those lines, the UFC management knows that people love to see a champion rise but they like watching one fall even more: they made money on the rise and the fall of Ronda Rousey. And it was planned.
Again, this is just my crazy theory. But it does sound plausible doesn't it?
Absolutely correct!!!!!!!!!!!. Your theory is not crazy. It is based on facts, common sense and logic.. Not emotions.
Thank You.
Media creation fell off the rails
Some of us were never fans. The loses clarified that she was never really as good as the media said she was.
"Cant train to take a punch", shots fired! :-)
Laila would get destroyed by any top female MMA fighter.Shes so full of herself,it's not even funny.
The female boxing scene that Leila was a part of was one of the least competitive sports in the world.
Leila should learn humility,but I realize as an Ali,your mouth has to be running all the time.
HM Fitness Anne Wolf branded her a coward as well.
Ronda took a sharp jab and was already out of it. She stayed on her feet because of her conditioning and because Nunes does not knock out anyone with one punch though her punch is the best in the division. But Ronda's game is on the floor and her game plan should have been to take Nunes to the floor without any attemp to box with her. Misha had some success with Nunes with take downs and so did (Zingano) who beat Nunes on the floor. So where was Ronda's mat game? Ask her coach. Just my opinion.
She tried to grab her a few times and Amanda just shrugged her off and turned.
Why did people keep insisting that all Ronda has to do is take the fight to the ground? Does'nt she first have get in close to get her opponent to the ground? People just assume that her opponent is just going to let Ronda get in close and go to the ground.
These fighters today are training to avoid Ronda's strength and not let her fight her game. They are not going to let Ronda grapple with them. That would be crazy. You don't fight to your opponent"s strength.
+Ellis James, Truth! Maybe the opponent is supposed to be so intimidated by the reputation of the other fighter that they just get in the cage and go limp or something, LOL
I do think that Ronda has the physical skills to come back if she wants. Question is, does she (still?) have the mentality, heart and desire to be a fighter? IF she does, in order to have a prayer of being champion again, she's got to (1) realize that what brought her this far will take her no farther. The Holm/Nunes Blueprint on how to murk Ronda Rousey is out there and has gone viral (2) it's a VERY good idea to ignore people who tell you what you want to hear in lieu of the truth and (3) she needs people who will coldly assess her skills, point out the flaws so that she be teachable and work on them and lastly (4) learn to recognize hype; play to it (if she wants) in public but NOT in training (closely relates to #2; kid, Floyd Mayweather would destroy you).
If she doesn't have the heart for it anymore, call it a career. IMO, the longer it takes her to make a public statement increases the odds that when that statement comes, it'll be a retirement announcement. A defeated fighter who still wants to fight (IMO) would have shown up at the post-fight and said *something.*
Ellis James
well said. Ronda couldn't get to them because they didn't let her. as soon as this sport let skilled fighters in, she was done.
Angela Patriarca Agreed. But I think the skilled women (like the men) are evolving and getting better.
Nothing but empathy. What a classy lady
I really don't see whats wrong with being memed and mocked after you've been held on such a high pedestal. It's just part of life, and if you can go through it, it makes you stronger. If you try and hide in your own bubble and pretend it doesn't exist, you won't grow as a person. Ronda stayed the exact same from her Holly fight. Her skills and attitude did not evolve. A bit of tough love could have done her some good.
Haha, the Honda microphone xD
Laila has class. She did not insult Rhonda and put her down. Gotta respect her for that.
Guys, please, who is this girl?
Rousey couldn't even take a jab, she got stunned by the first punch. If it went on for 5 more seconds she would've been out cold she grabbed the cage to stay standing. lol
"You can't train somebody's chin to take a punch" .... you can't train them to have a heart either.
Love this woman --- she's fucking REAL.
Ronda's chin isn't THAT bad; the problem is with her ability to evade punches and her decision/stubbornness to keep engaging against a better/stronger standup fighter.
Who is this?
"I believe she still beats 90 percent of the
division... But whether she fights again or not, she’s still going to go
down as an absolute legend. I do believe she could regain the belt and beat any
of the other girls (in the division) at any given time.”Jon Jones
Kind words from Jon Jones who is regarded as the goat 🐐 of LHW 🇺🇲
The only thing that kept making me cringe is how leila kept saying that she couldnt take a punch when ronda caught like at least 12 clean shots on the button in under 30 seconds lol. Thats taking a punch to me. She just has no defensive (or offensive) striking skills
Her chin has nothing to do with that fight she just gave up and realised it wasn't for her after getting the first punch . Ronda should donate her money to charity
quality real talk - "you cant train someone's chin to take a punch".
It's amazing how many ppl Ronda rubbed the wrong way on the way up.....I guess the amount is easily seen more collectively on the way down.
That's what I said she got hit one time and gave up in the beginning I wasn't a Rousey fan but I saw her beat Zingano, Bethe and Davis I was like damn this girl has a fire🔥 burning inside her but it's sad because that fire is gone!!
rousey should have had tune up fights, many of fighters good or bad inactivity is a killer.
Laila was very classy in this interview,,,
100% right. she can't take a punch. I been saying it for years. "wait til she fights people with legit power"
So many haters that wouldn't last a full min in the ring
Layila Ali.. yay. what Class. . greatest lady boxer ever. just like her POPs.The Greatest
She actually made a point not too many people have mentioned. She should've never been in there fighting Nunes for the belt after the Holly loss. The UFC basically paid 3million plus to destroy one of their only ppv draws. It's debateable that she even deserved an immediate title shot. Franklin got destroyed by Silva and had to work back up. Same with Hughes/GSP, Rashad/Lyoto, And others. Ronda should've came back and fought a grappler or someone less dangerous. Zing amp, McMann, Kaufman, Tate, Baszler etc.
Fuckin autocorrect, Zingano not zing amp.
Laila never fought the Holms and Nunes of boxing. People wanted Lucia Rijker, Anne Wolfe and Leatitia Robinson. Instead she fought people she already KO'd, fighters with weights in their pockets to make weight and MMA fighters doing some boxing.
Leila Ali is a great idea for Ronda. Ronda could also train with Jorina Baars - Muai Thai/ KB Champ 40-0 ! Kicks help for the distance, especially if you're the smaller one
What Laila was talking about is how the mind handles the punch.Rondas body took the punch but her mind couldnt.Without the mind the body will fall
Very classy response from Laila this time, but I dont think Rondas chin is the problem. The problem is her defense and all round boxing skill. Its just not up to the level of the top strikers in her division so she will always do badly when put against a striker. I really hope she fights again, but she needs to improve her stand up a lot, and fight some of the lower ranked fighters for a bit.
I'm glad to see many people in the comments point out Ali's nonsense about Ronda's chin. I was expecting the comments to be complete biased cancer. There's nothing wrong with Ronda's chin; in fact, I was surprised at how good her chin was in that fight knowing how hard Nunes hits. There are just too many casual fans who probably never heard of Amanda Nunes until they Googled her before she fought Ronda. Nunes hits extremely hard, unusually hard for a girl her size, almost like she weighs 30 pounds heavier than she actually is. I'd say she hits twice as hard as Holly Holm.
both look like each other
Train her! You're the Queen!
unless I'm mistaken. Wasn't it Layla who predicted Ronda would lose the fight to Holly Holmes because Ronda hadn't fought against an opponent who could penetrate a wicked punch?
you could tell that Ronda didn't wanna be in there just by the way she didn't even try to attempt to take her down cuz it's either that or Ronda is still thinking about her last fight and she scared that it might happen again
It's understandable that someone's chin isn't that great considering 13 months prior she was brutally headkicked. That type of damage can seriously take years out of your life and takes a very long time for your brain to recover from it
who also noticed that Ronda's name is written on the microphone?
The question is, "Is Ronda a fighter?" Look at Aldo, he couldn't wait to get back in the fight game. No one else that i know goes into hiding after a loss.
Laila, with all do respect... The fans didn't turn on her. It was ego, arrogance, and how sh contradict herself. She's so disrespect to her opponents and the sport. We didn't turn on her, she turned on us.
Her problem was she lost all confidence completely when the first big punch landed, which was in the first 12-15 secs, she has a fine chin but she just lost her shit when the first punch connected to her face, it was all down hill from there. Again, her chin is fine, it is about confidence and get your game back through adversity or at least have a viable game plan to win, maybe tried to take Nunes down or some shit, I know it is hard from being stunned but she was no way near out from the first few punches that landed on her face.
she gots a chin, the messed up part is that she is scared a scared man can't win, she gets hit very hard she don't get mad or smarter she emediatly feels fear that's what happened fear,cause of what home did to her, she was hitting the mits on tv she was quick on point it was so good any child or normal person would say wow she's good, mitts don't fight back, I see her on tv hitting the mitts I'm like embarrassed for her.
I don't get this whole,"can't take a punch" thing. Now I agree she can't box, but she took like 40 strong punches square in the face in 48 seconds without going down. And she took almost two full rounds of punches by Holly Holm before she got KO'D by a head kick, all with 4 oz gloves. I agree she can't box, but I don't agree she can't take a punch. I think Laila Ali is just shitting on somebody who's down.
Rousey has a great chin, did you not see the shots she took? It's her striking in general that's not up to standard
Strong confident voice, beautiful woman
I can respect Queen Laila Ali's comment and I totally agree!
when Ronda was 12-0 Laila Ali trash talking say she will kick Ronda ass. It's good to see that now Ali not trash talking and kicking the person while she is down.
Laila Ali should talk about how she avoided Lucia Rijker at all cost. Not a Ronda fan by any means, but at least she never ran away from another fighter...
Chin = ability to take a punch toughness and ability to "take" a punch without panicking
Layla is so beautiful. Great woman, too.
True she didn't go down so yes her "chin" is in tact, but she is easily stunned and her game plan goes out the window.
Thanks for not saying "I told you so"
she can take a punch, she never fell down after getting smacked like a tennis ball a dozen times, the problem of course is the first jab that landed seem to force her to completely abandon her gameplan, after that she stopped defending and tried to clinch, it was ridiculous, she just hates being punched, remember that holly took her out with maybe the most powerful kick in women's mma, holly's legs are insane, teach her how to guard her face and box like a normal person and she'd be okay, those 48 seconds were mostly ronda trying to hug a boxer essentially, she went in like rocky balboa and lost like the real rocky balboa would lose against apollo creed
dont forget that Ronda did not go down despite those heavy punches,sorry Laila you are wrong cause Ronda has got a chin ,though she is not a very good boxer....please little respect for this girl who realy made me discover UFC
ronda can take one hell of a punch, her chin isnt suspect. she was out of it and still standing. nunes hits the hardest in the division. she hits any girls clean they drop. sara mcmann perfect example. i was impressed with rondas ability to take a shot.
Two words for Ali: Lucia Rijker
She mad confident. but she is right, you gotta be able to take punches. Ronda gave no effort to block, her defence was terrible in that fight. Instead of blocking she just held out her arm straight
the sport evolved and Ronda decided that she didn't want to evolve and she paid the price twice so far.
Saying you need to be able to take a punch to compete is a really broad and false statement. Everyone knows Overeem has a glass chin and has completed for years at the very top. Look at khabib at 205 and earlier fights. A jab wobbles him and he's undefeated. Any top coach will tell you the last thing they look for in a fighter is their chin. In fact, many of the top ones have said that a good chin can hinder a fighter because they're over reliant on it
Goes to show boxing is a real sport it takes technique to fight the fight any no body can go in and get the shit beat out of them.
Ronda can take a punch... she took plenty. Key word in mixed martial arts is MIXED. With all her resources she should focus on boxing/kick boxing.
When Laila was 20-0 she chose to box an MMA fighter who had 6 wins in boxing with no KO.
Holy shit didn't realize that was Rich Eisen
Ii love you laila. Long live the Greatest!
laila ali my love
everyone's so good at talking
She doesn't need a boxing coach, she needs to drop boxing all together and get a wrestling coach. She could then learn how to shoot for fast explosive takedowns. If she gets a bitch to the floor its a wrap so I'm stunned to see that she's never done this before and she went the boxing route instead
I am a fan of Ronda because of the intensity she brings. She has never had a boring fight. Many of the female fighters have become boring with their increased technical abilities. But Ronda has always come in with pure aggression, and it's exciting. But she has been too angry outside of fighting and disrespectful for me to like her. See her Holly Holm pre-fight videos.
wooow laila we love you soo much
I think Ali has a fair assessment of Ronda's situation. Ronda showed she is not competitive at that level.
The differences is that ronda fought a top contender n Connor fought a guy that had almost the same losses as wins
i think ronda rousey chin is alright she wasnt knock down or out it's her boxing and defense need alot of work she is a grappler,judo,armbar expert not a good boxer who moves or hits and defends her self like one most of her wins are arm bar she needs a good boxing coach
lol i was surprised that she kept it respectful at 1st then she start taking shots at her hahaha. jesus people sure like to start kicking when you are down
after getting blitzed twice, probably time to try something new.
if the idea of being able to "take a punch" is based on the condition of just standing there and let people hit you on the chin then NO ONE CAN TAKE A PUNCH because that is exactly what rousey did. she wasn't defending properly with footwork or movement, so she was eating everything that doesnt mean she cant take a punch but that she doesnt know how to defend or roll with the punches.
Smh Millions, didn't understand why the hatred at first. But you have guys in Kalib can't even get 200k, and countless other top 10 contenders in multiple divisions getting screwed in compensation. This is also a backlash against the established. I compare it Gracie vs . M Hughes... I mean really Dana?? Hughes even had balls to say " Gracie is past his prime, and shouldn't be in run with him" and Gracie refused to tap.. Tap Rhonda
Laila shows a lot of class by not taking cheap shots.
you go out on a loss it will be your rest of life memory
Lailaaaaaaa.....I love you!
Laila: We all go down!! it happened to your father, iron Mike, Alexis Arguello, Roberto Duran, and every other famous fighter in boxing or MMA. It's just a matter of time. Ronda was never one of my favorite fighters, nighter are you, but I would never put a fighter down after suffering a lost. In this life sometimes you win, and then you don't....carry on!!
It's pretty obvious Ronda can take a punch!
lol at all the lowkey blows at ronda while still trying to sound nice.
She beauty.. Laila❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️