"They've Wired This In All Sorts Of Ways" - Tricky Lighting Issue Fault Finding

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  • čas přidán 8. 11. 2020
  • This episode involves a tricky lighting issue which requires a fault find.
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Komentáře • 87

  • @normanhartill1424
    @normanhartill1424 Před 3 lety +19

    First thing I ask "has it ever worked?" - second thing I ask - " any DIY or other work been done?"

  • @nocomment4924
    @nocomment4924 Před 3 lety +2

    You remind me so much of my dad in your working things out. I'm miss him very much, and watching your videos is very comforting.
    Keep up the good work and stay safe.

  • @train4905
    @train4905 Před 3 lety +2

    A superb job as always dell.av bin a spark for 20 odd years.
    That takes me back to many lighting faults over the years..

  • @dlifts721
    @dlifts721 Před 3 lety +3

    Almost finished my level 2 at college, so interesting watching your videos Delroy, I got not practical experience, learning alot. Thanks

  • @jamesmocock4516
    @jamesmocock4516 Před 3 lety

    Your channel is fantastic, great spark and a very knowledgeable keep it up 👍

  • @rouman7
    @rouman7 Před 3 lety +4

    I am roughly the same age as you and like you I have found so many different faults I laugh now because some of the things I found fuseboxes in the loft. Sockets left under the floor ( still live ) taped joints some with sellotape to many handymen around kitchen fitters etc. When I was a apprentice I was told be a master of a trade not a jack of all trades. I enjoy watching you as we’re from the same time and I also watch the new younger sparks. ( my nephew is one ) so much has changed now. More paperwork. A lot more regs. I will retire in a year or 2 but loved every min of my sparky days

  • @JJ-kr6ky
    @JJ-kr6ky Před 3 lety +2

    I feel your pain. I wouldn’t run a new circuit to the switch without power unless i can remove the faulty part of the circuit. I would probably narrow it down by seeing if the break affects just the live or neutral or both

  • @MMG_MoonManGuitar
    @MMG_MoonManGuitar Před 3 lety +2

    Lovely work as usual mate.

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Před 3 lety

      Cheers MMG. One of the longest subscribers. Really appreciate it

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Před 3 lety

      Cheers MMG. One of the longest subscribers. Thanks a bunch

  • @paultipton743
    @paultipton743 Před 3 lety +2

    I've come across it before now with those plaster ceiling rose decorations with the pendant loop live connections in connector blocks above the pendant and being loose.

  • @liamjohnny335
    @liamjohnny335 Před 3 lety

    I can feel yr pain...yr so patient buddy

  • @donnierobertson3088
    @donnierobertson3088 Před 3 lety

    Nice job and video

  • @Bladerunner4511
    @Bladerunner4511 Před 3 lety

    Mate you do get the rough end of the deal sometimes makes a great video good work all the best

  • @waynehenson1094
    @waynehenson1094 Před 3 lety

    Good job.

  • @marksimpson3035
    @marksimpson3035 Před 3 lety +2

    Evening Del
    Yeah can be pain fault finding & additional switches lights
    Good to see two lighting circuits , just be carefull of neutral backfeed being on both circuits for safe isolation if possible ?
    Praise the lord as always

  • @paultipton743
    @paultipton743 Před 3 lety +8

    There seems a lot of cables going into that intermediate switch, 4 Reds in the same terminal, it wants ripping out and starting again

  • @antwakefield2165
    @antwakefield2165 Před 3 lety

    I was born in dominica came here when I was 6 years and took the same opportunity as you worked for EDF Quinn's electrical then worked for myself. We've probably crossed paths in Tottenham doing a good job be safe my brother.

  • @busman2000
    @busman2000 Před 3 lety +1

    Oh my goodness a whole lot of continuity testing with a wander lead. I feel for you.

  • @ImranKhan-cf8gs
    @ImranKhan-cf8gs Před 3 lety +1

    Good job dell

  • @mathman0101
    @mathman0101 Před 3 lety +1

    The best fault finding spark - these are your best vids Del. Thankyou to you and junior for showing us. It’s a rats nest yes I would be re-wiring tracing out the circuit is the only real way. Not sure you get the ideal sure trace system in the UK it’s a great tool we use in the USA to trace a circuit and breaker from any wire. Its a tool that allows you to trace the wire through walls and floors without having to pull them up or damage the walls.
    It’s would be hours of work just to identify the wiring layout belling it out without this tool would take 4 times as long.

    • @g.t.36
      @g.t.36 Před 3 lety

      What's the tool you use

    • @mathman0101
      @mathman0101 Před 3 lety +1

      @@roydowling2542 to do that he would have to be either breaking up ceiling or going from the flat above to find all the joints/splices. That’s a big job. His suggestion is a safe fix getting things working without tearing the house apart. Unless the landlord wants you to do a full rewire which frankly needs it given the age of the fusebox itself. Sometimes there is only so much you are asked to do.

    • @mathman0101
      @mathman0101 Před 3 lety +2

      @@g.t.36 take a look at the following. As I said this is for the US market but it’s something that could be done for the UK market. There are other models from other companies like ambprobe as well. It’s very useful.
      www.idealcircuit-tracer.com

    • @g.t.36
      @g.t.36 Před 3 lety

      @@mathman0101 Thank you

    • @mathman0101
      @mathman0101 Před 3 lety +1

      @@roydowling2542 and from the video he edited and put together it does not mean he did not do that testing either. He just did not show it.
      On that basis with faulty cables or shorts he would have to break into the ceilings and then he may discover a bigger issue.
      Yes it does need a rewire but somebody has to agree to pay for that I don’t think the customer was interested in that kind of work.

  • @spookyboo3164
    @spookyboo3164 Před 3 lety

    Very few diy own up to it but it's usually quite obvious to the attending electrician if I ask how long the lights have not worked as are not for a long time sometimes it's just a blown lamp

  • @andrewpowell6457
    @andrewpowell6457 Před 3 lety +1

    Looks like someone's had a right play with that wiring

  • @ERIC-65
    @ERIC-65 Před 3 lety +1

    Just a question: Why don't electricians leave a circuit-drawing behind (in the fuse box)?

    • @Interknetz
      @Interknetz Před 3 lety

      I think Bundy does a lot of methodical stuff with electrics. Think he labels everything.

  • @mrclive5
    @mrclive5 Před 3 lety

    If the feeds are coming from the floor, why didn't you pop up some of the un-carpeted floorboards? Probably Y-joints under there?

  • @Cablesmith
    @Cablesmith Před 3 lety +5

    I would personally be offering a full lighting rewire because it’s a mess.
    You’d need RCD protection adding if your going to add a new lighting circuit

    • @eastwayelectrical
      @eastwayelectrical  Před 3 lety +1

      Appreciate your contribution

    • @Cablesmith
      @Cablesmith Před 3 lety +3

      @@eastwayelectrical sorry I just re-read my comment and it sounded a bit snarky. It wasn’t meant that way. Wasn’t trying to tell you what to do etc 😂

  • @paulbrown9175
    @paulbrown9175 Před 3 lety +3

    I cannot understand all them cables into one connection of a intermediate switch it should be just a pair of strappers going in and a pair of strappers going out, was the two way switching OK in the past before the fault I don't see how it could be working properly I must be missing something.

    • @Hammy135
      @Hammy135 Před 3 lety

      I know. Something seriously wrong in that switch if that’s an intermediate

    • @steverobinson8170
      @steverobinson8170 Před 3 lety

      Looks like billy the bodger has tapped off the switch either to another light or switch , take a month of sundays to sort that , quite possibly had two lighting circuits originally , someone trying to bypass a fault pulled one out . Really needs a rewire

    • @cooper512
      @cooper512 Před 3 lety

      Someone’s just taken a feed for a light from the common, you can see there is a neutral in the patress

  • @markrowland5393
    @markrowland5393 Před 3 lety +6

    Where those wires were taped together in the back of the box, I would be tempted to connect them with small wagos and see if that solves the problem.

  • @tww5719
    @tww5719 Před 3 lety +3

    A always start with the mains B never put joins under the floor in a grd floor flat 👍

  • @ImranKhan-cf8gs
    @ImranKhan-cf8gs Před 3 lety +2

    That’s a nightmare of a job I had a job like that Bounds Green builders done ext run off with guys money and they chop lighting circuit off for downstairs all lights stop working could not get access to floorboards upstairs another flat I had to end up rewiring the whole flat make holes in the ceiling and it was similar sort of house or flat long runs cable plus plaster ceiling roses it was hell

  • @zjzozn
    @zjzozn Před 3 lety

    👍

  • @antwakefield2165
    @antwakefield2165 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi Delroy I'm an old school sparks I started just like you. I'm watching one of your CZcams channels there's some rubbish so called sparks out there. I'm sure there's only one way to do a lighting circuit and that's a 3 plate system. From the db to the first light and then the switch and mark it and so on.

    • @ryanallen3704
      @ryanallen3704 Před 3 lety

      Standard loop system.
      Now most of us bring neutrals to the switch. So same as before but loop is in the switch not at the pendant.
      Makes life easier for smart switches to be installed that need a neutral.

    • @tomquirk3443
      @tomquirk3443 Před 3 lety

      2 plates also easier for fault-finding

  • @ImranKhan-cf8gs
    @ImranKhan-cf8gs Před 3 lety +1

    That’s the live and neutral at switch and loop at the light 💡 1 cable but it is definitely got jobs somewhere del

  • @thedon7536
    @thedon7536 Před 3 lety +2

    I had to take a double look at video, only 3 fuses running a flat ? Needs a re-wire before it burns down. Another great video

  • @leeburnside735
    @leeburnside735 Před 3 lety

    IR test ??

  • @glenndyer9967
    @glenndyer9967 Před 3 lety

    Ceiling rose off and check for power👍

  • @stig1989.
    @stig1989. Před 12 dny

    that fuse board is not in reg. made off plastic and next to the door. it should be in a cupboard or box.

  • @brianoceallaigh8714
    @brianoceallaigh8714 Před 3 lety +1

    its possible mice could have eaten through cable insulation in ceilings, no harm to do a IR test...

    • @ryanallen3704
      @ryanallen3704 Před 3 lety +1

      1st question is "has it ever worked before"
      If it has find out if anyones touched anything since it's stopped working.
      If it's worked before someone has changed something or a little fluffy rodent has been chewing away...

  • @tonybalm1513
    @tonybalm1513 Před 3 lety

    Try fault finding and repairing something like an audio amplifier with several faults!!!!!!

  • @JermaineJ3m
    @JermaineJ3m Před 3 lety +2

    Definitely a re-wire

  • @sarahz1957
    @sarahz1957 Před 2 lety

    “ Elec tricks” and the electric human body.

  • @Hammy135
    @Hammy135 Před 3 lety

    If that is an intermediate switch then that should be ringing alarm bells straight away. An intermediate should never have that many cores. It looks like it’s got feeds in one terminal.

  • @zjzozn
    @zjzozn Před 3 lety +1

    I saw a pigs ear in that 2nd switch. 😂

  • @spookyboo3164
    @spookyboo3164 Před 3 lety

    Probably a mixture of 2 plate and 3

  • @timballam3675
    @timballam3675 Před 3 lety

    Burn it, burn it all!

  • @johnoreilly7052
    @johnoreilly7052 Před 3 lety

    Delroy there is always DIY and people who dose not know how to do the electrics

  • @tangothecat237
    @tangothecat237 Před 3 lety

    I once fitted a new light fitting on my sisters house. I was shocked to find out that all her wires in the house that went to the fuse box was the same colour included earth. They was all red.

  • @martindixiesparks
    @martindixiesparks Před 3 lety

    i know this wiring will send wiring diagram if you like

  • @NewAge0fAquarius
    @NewAge0fAquarius Před 3 lety

    Déjà vu lol

  • @240soundwave
    @240soundwave Před rokem

    I love this stuff, but I always want to know the prices I am a capitalist pig dog.

  • @zakhariikabaliuk9010
    @zakhariikabaliuk9010 Před 3 lety +1

    useless ...

  • @malcolmcroll
    @malcolmcroll Před 3 lety +1

    Delroy =not very good footage ,cannot see whats going on ;;