This is who will be running the country ..its scary shit ..no wonder they're testing mental strength and monkey see hear and say no evil History repeats with a twist eww
I've always believed DM was involved. She either participated or she knows exactly who did this and is afraid if she tells, that he/she/them will do the same to her. Either way, she knows more than what she's said and she should be heavily interrogated until she tells all.
DM Was soooo jealous it appears. It was a double (dual) perpetrator ship type of killing. 2 groups of people...2 different beefs...got together and mad this happen....each group had enough players that were in Like flinn...to play all of the necessary parts in all of this... What does absolute control do...? It corrupts absolutley!!!!
No way are the killers gonna leave WITNESSES after a crime as violent as this....Hunter j and Dylan "found" the bodies...I've always been suspicious of those two...
DM called Kaylee back, to try and stop her from going to the police in the Hudson Lindow death, Kaylee and Maddie said they we’re definitely going to the authorities, DM told the fraternity that she was not changing her mind, they unalived Kaylee and Maddie, Ethan heard a commotion went to check and they saw him, they had to unalive him, he fought at the door and Xana was in the room as another witness, so she had to go also. Whoever did this, the Fraternity guys they jump in shower clean up and leave, Dylan was the lookout
Bleach covered whatever could have been in the bathroom. Think about how a man would stab someone and how a jealous woman who is full of hate would stab someone. Kaylee was supposedly stabbed 57 times and here wounds were not clean stab wounds. Her body was mutilated. Complete overkill! And Emma, Dylan, and three other men were out on the deck smoking early in the morning after the murder time.
Caden Young (the Idaho student who overdosed from drugs purchased from Emma Bailey/Dementrius) was a Journalism major who LOVED to write. He was in a Fraternity & always on Deans List. Does anyone know if he wrote or had anything to do with school newspaper? I’ve always thought he might have been doing some investigative journalism and it was not accidental that he overdosed 2 times in a 24 hour period…
Who took him to the hospital or called an ambulance both times? The same people or was he found alone each time? Smells like the rat, emma bailey, is behind both times.
YEP..I BEEN SAYIN THAT FOR THIS WHOLE ALL OF TIME~ HE DONT EVEN STAND LIKE A GIRL~ HE DISQUESTS ME WITH SHADEY A~~ LOOK ALL THE TIME~ LOOK HOW WHEN SQWEEZED ALl uP n BETWEEN THE GIRLS HE STANDS LILE PIGON TOED WITH HIS LEGS LIKE AS TO TRY HIDING SOMETHING BETWEEN HIS LEGS... Yeah I was wondering if anybody else was watching heshes neck area watching for his adams apple aswell...Do yah think 1 of the male dna found inside was Heshe'z ?
I have never from the very beginning trusted DM and BF. They heard nothing? Yeah right! They waited 8 hours before calling 911? Yeah uh huh, right, I don't think so! All along I've suspected that DM had something to do with what happened. In the subpoena why does it specifically state that they don't need to be worried about being arrested? Why would they be afraid of being arrested if they didn't do it? According to RCW 10.52.060 Confrontation of witnesses. Every person accused of crime shall have the right to meet the witnesses produced against him or her face to face: PROVIDED, That whenever any witness whose deposition shall have been taken pursuant to law by a magistrate, in the presence of the defendant and his or her counsel, shall be absent, and cannot be found when required to testify upon any trial or hearing, so much of such deposition as the court shall deem admissible and competent shall be admitted and read as evidence in such case. Why is it that DM and BF don't want to have anything to do with this case refusing to testify against a man who supposedly killed their friends and roommates? A normal person would be all over the fucker! Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke are full of shit IMHO!
DM aided and abetted, imo, and my gut tells me she set it all up for Kaylee to die as well. Targets were Ethan and Maddie, imo, but DM knew what was going to happen and was so jealous of Kaylee that she wanted her gone too.
Supposedly DM boyfriend never visited her in Moscow and she maybe got lonely and had a guy over. She was caught in her cheating by one of the girls and she didn't want her boyfriend to find out.
Affidavit said they found 1 footprint, in their second pass of crime scene. At first, that was leading them to think there was a clean up, but then didn’t hear another word about it!
Mick Jagger 👀 Paint it black comes to mind .... "I look inside myself And see my heart is black I see my red door I must have it painted black Maybe then, I'll fade away And not have to face the facts It's not easy facing up When your whole world is black ...
I would love to see all the CCTV of the immediate area captured between 3.00a.m - 12.00 midday when LE arrived. The activity within those 'lost' hours would be very revealing. I hope this is ALL preserved.
I know it's not the most scientific evidence ever but I can't look at a picture of DM particularly when with Kaylee and not get a strange feeling from it. I just can't. Just my opinion of course but still no clear picture of her whereabouts for the night. We get it for everyone else but she is just a mystery for some reason. A witness statement that sounds like it was written by a cop with massive logical issues that are never explained. Nobody else would be awake for that. Hear the attack of 4 people. Describe a hooded person walking out the back door and then 8 hours of?? Come on. The only way a noon 911 call makes sense is if she partied too hard and just crashed. Not hearing anything. The fact that she's a witness is the biggest problem here considering her actions from 4 am on. Then no clear answer for these obvious questions and it's been over a year? I think DM hated those girls for some reason (maybe for ligitamite reasons 🤷 we don't know the dynamics of that house) and it's the one thing I can't shake every time I see these photos of the girls together.
Its time for those 2 survivors to take a lie detector test they know what happened one person stabbed 50 times and at least one of the victims could have got away DUH God help BK
This is what happens when small towns with universities as boss have city meeting about Rules if a crime happened with students. How their taught to contaminated a crime scene where no one would ever know who did it.
That rule is FRAT AND sororities..yep this place plus church uni cops and over half population students damn..actually cops keep it pretty calm. When I think about it. Kids are being brainwashed and trafficked right at home ..Kaylee was trafficked hired then silenced That new job she thought was saving the world was deep trafficking drugs child abuse. Look at the sorority house when they called cops cause the man was inside..its full of equipment and beds..Kids stuff hospital equipment
Mother D, da D N A, is Magical! The entire police department is dirty, allowing this entire charade. From the minimal information, the people have a patsy, with a gloomy future.
A Jury will look at that bleeding house, take in the autopsy reports of the damages done & know full well one guy with eight minutes isn't capable of doing it & hopping in his Elantra & driving home without leaving trace in his ride. Or in his body. (remember his doc visit just days later?) This all would seem to be a competition of sorts, with Cleanberger & Kopacka on one side & the idaho state police & a few Moscow cops & local cartel & students on the other. Cleanberger seems smarter than all the locals. He even took pains to get a physical afterwards to document it. lol. Guy's going to be very rich when all the BS is revealed.
Every picture of dylan and the girls she looks at kaylee with an eerie smile like watch it girl ill get you kind of look. Probabky just me but she looks evil.
I love this video. Great work. I find it incredibly suspicious how LE is acting around this case. The roommates would be the obvious first place to begin this investigation, and from day 1 of the incident LE never directly said why they refused to look into the roommates or what they were up to at any point around the times of the crime. Zero transparency, bizarre answers, attempts to demolish the crime scene, clearing suspects without explanation and then an arrest out of nowhere with a PCA that makes no sense. They can't connect the suspect to the victims, place him at the scene of the crime or produce any DNA evidence outside of the house to make their story plausible. What the hell is going in this college town. Anyways, I look forward to watching more of your videos.
What if people were waiting in roof ? Outside kaylee window ? I remember seeing a beer bottle in a crime scene photo . What kaylee ran into Maddie room ? This was done by a group of people . And think the Cops were a spin-off .
Next question. Trigger warning here. But were the eyes open when they were found? Because if they were cleaning up and the Vics were there with eyes open, they may close their eyes to keep them from "watching them". Indicating of busy hours cleaning. Remember a neighbor saw DM and friends smoking a joint Allegedly. On the morning of.
If that was after the bodies were found, that's just sick! " Hey man, there's dead friends in our house, let's get stoned man." And if it wasn't Dylan that didn't pass out, then why didn't she call 911 herself, from HER phone? Nice friend.
DM got Kaylee to come back as her plus one did her and Kaylee ever go to a party together or was it a rude I never trusted DM I always felt she was jealous and is involved in the murders 😢
OMG! Yes!!! You fucking nailed it! My sentiments exactly 💯 👌 👏 🙌 You need to keep this angle going strong 💪. DM is the #1 most suspicious individual in this whole case. BF was probably a look out. What if they lured Bryan to the house somehow by promising sexual favors, a party, ect to get him to show up at the house? What if they had a friend somehow get the sheath into Bryan's hands where he could touch the snap then they cleaned all but the snap and set it aside to be planted after they committed the crime? What if BFs sculpitory evidence points to her inviting Bryan to the house so that he would be seen around the crime scene?
I pray the truth comes out. Haven’t heard about the use of a taser in this crime. Interesting. BK did not have time to shower in the midst of the 16 min MPD timeline??
i agree with you. First murder was done earlier. And someone had the time to put clothes in bag, take a shower and clean floors.. Need a car vehicle to go throw the bag of clothes somewhere , that vehicle probably on camera somewhere but that case was not investigated properly. Totally one of the top three suspects ...
It was all about getting the dog while kaylee was there so when she had to leave Murphy would be missing but really with Jack D. Jack is not the first or last boyfriend that took a dog back from their girlfriend and wont be the last.
Something that is stuck with me that I think is important to the timeline is Ethan's mother stating that 2:00 is a dark hour. Why would she say 2:00 if the police timeline is after 3:00?
Kaylee went to Moscow PD two weeks before the murders to let them know about the drug dealing going on and she was afraid for Maddie also Xanax wanted to quit selling and focus on her relationship so that infuriated Dylan because she wouldn't have the party house anymore
Small town knows who does what at what time and day. The plan was to frame BK because he runs around that area, and he would use the high speed internet as he passed that house. Just like Jack D used the houses internet
Excellent presentation. You covered these talking points superbly and I think it will be important for Ann Taylor to review the police cam the day of November 13, of how these two roomies appear in that cam footage.
Actually! THESE GIRLS WERE NOT SWEET HEARTS. THEY ALL WERE TROUBLE SOME MORE THEN OTHERS. THE ONLY ONECWITH A MOTIVE AND ANGRY AND PASSIONATE WAS Jake D and his girl friend Dillon.
Speculating....what if they were drugged with something in their drinks to prevent them fighting off anyone, or even be able to scream? It could have been given to them by someone they thought they trusted. (Like what's being used in other vacation crimes.)
@SJSUPhilosopher : Thanks for a super video about the star witness. Wasn't there some evidence found outside the home, such as a black glove? But I agree with you that so far there is too little evidence that has been found outside the home.
Remember at the press conference a woman also asked about the ROTC? Yes, i definitely agree that whoever did this knew them personally. This was an act of rage and/or jealousy, not a crazed serial killer or someone high off of drugs. The question is not only what would have to happen to piss you off so much that you'd commit murder but what would 4 people have to do to enrage you and/or others into doing something like this. Not accusing the four of any wrongdoing but something had to have happened prior.
I agree. I've never seen a case like this that so many people think it's off . Do you please have the video of Kaylee or Dylan getting into a car, please ?
Right from the start I thought DM had something to do with it. I don’t know what part but she had something to do with it and she knew about it. The police could’ve got it out of her. They should’ve interrogate her heavily when this first happened.
Shudders YIKES OMG that look from Dylan In pics towering over kaylee ..with blood on her mind Like she can hardly wait to hear her pleading and taste flesh .is it true her heart was cut out and stolen?
My inner gut says DM is involved and an important part of the set up and possibly clean up. Silence on her part is far from golden. And I think whoever did the killing, jumped in the shower to get rid of the mess on them. The water bill should be checked and see if there's a large increase in charges. Every picture of DM when Kaylee's in the picture, looks evil eyed. I'd say their was jealousy involved. But I think this case is deeper than we think. I'd look at the college scene. This could be a large group effort. It has to do with loyalty and belonging. Anyone disagreeing with the group or deciding not to be a part of it, could be a target. DM needs to be forced to comply. The college is hiding the truth. And the scary part is the fact that the killers and their counterparts are running free.
M D , im going to straight say thing because alot of ppl got shut down when we try to voice this , so its not a wonder we all thought DM either let the killers in , or the killers where inside already... when i said this in a chat , i was told im victim blaming and how DARe i lol , lets get real here ❤ 😊
Dylan and Bethany took to long to call for help. Why? this sounds like a big cover up. Now Dylan, has pictures with a knife and mask on, she is a lair and women also murder, so whom else took them students out and murdered them. This is a big cover up. This two were not harmed and they saw the murder or murders ,but were not murdered.
I miss this mamma d , please don't change as sub count goes up,we all. loved th7s channel bc one of last few not afraid of speaking truth n calling it as it is, the truth is not meant to tickle everybody's ears sometimes it is meant to convince people to get more in alignment with what is actually right what is actually just what is actually pure what is actually noble what is actually true the problem in society now is you have to tiptoe on egg shells for everyone's emotions and their feelings which we all know is the number one way through deception like you can't be afraid about telling the truth as long as you're doing it humbly and kindly
PLEASE tell me why none of the creators on this platform will consider something else went down at 1122 king. there are l e procedures like witness protection operation that would fit the evidence much more than 4 homicides. a very big one it would explain is l e and crime scene techs not observing rules and protocol of wearing has mat suits so not to contaminate the crime scene
Love the job you do.tanx. I get the feeling he's being framed by cops/ school. That cop being undercover,white car,all in black. Probably change time frame to cover his butt
❤ I love your opinion about the lack of clothing 👍. I always noticed DM seemed detached in their group? I also remember some video age's ago saying DM wasn't into the drug scene and tended to keep to herself???? Don't think so sonehow? But it hasn't come up again? You're videos are awesome 👍
If killer or killers still out there they could be in danger or if they are involved which I believe maybe Dylan's boyfriend walked right in and helped by Dylan cleaning up n making it look not cleaned up
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Great opener - perfect lead-in and logic to capture the necessity of demanding answers.
Never in my life have seen a case shrouded in such secrecy, such chaos, hidden players, etc in my life.
This whole case stinks.
Kiely Rodni’s case was too
Me either
This is who will be running the country ..its scary shit ..no wonder they're testing mental strength and monkey see hear and say no evil
History repeats with a twist eww
I'm old and gotta move ..and not use wifi soon
I've always believed DM was involved. She either participated or she knows exactly who did this and is afraid if she tells, that he/she/them will do the same to her. Either way, she knows more than what she's said and she should be heavily interrogated until she tells all.
DM mother works at the college. This case is definitely a cover up
Bryan didn't do these horrendous crime . Dylan story has always been off with me ..
The evidence got his prints on it somehow
@Thebeautifulme100 its touch DNA that womt stand in court. That knife sheath could have been put there by anyone and Kolberger was framed.
I want to know how can they find the touch DNA if that only last 4h… and the first lab didnt find it.
I totally agree...
You mean the lab owned by the police?
I would not be a bit surprised if Dylan is deeply involved in this heinous crime.
I said it from the first day
Dylan/Quinn, Emma/Demetrius.
My intuition has always told me this.
Dylan was so jealous of Kaylee and Maddie could always tell on the pictures just the way she would look at them
🎯
i feel the same way!
I did see or feel she wasn’t happy!
@@user-ph9sy9om8r truth
DM Was soooo jealous it appears.
It was a double (dual) perpetrator ship type of killing. 2 groups of people...2 different beefs...got together and mad this happen....each group had enough players that were in Like flinn...to play all of the necessary parts in all of this...
What does absolute control do...? It corrupts absolutley!!!!
No way are the killers gonna leave WITNESSES after a crime as violent as this....Hunter j and Dylan "found" the bodies...I've always been suspicious of those two...
I can believe that...he was at that house all the time. Why not on that fateful night!!!👍
Hunter Iis 😈 always lurking around when.police showed up talked about ethan.like a doghe definitely part of all dylanslil.bitch boy
They would be dead unless involved deep
@tswift absolutely. If she saw him. He saw her. The hallway was tiny. Not even a hallway!?
There were three killers in black wearing black masks.
One can be seen on the Linda Lane footage.
They left in the black SUV in the carpark.
DM called Kaylee back, to try and stop her from going to the police in the Hudson Lindow death, Kaylee and Maddie said they we’re definitely going to the authorities, DM told the fraternity that she was not changing her mind, they unalived Kaylee and Maddie, Ethan heard a commotion went to check and they saw him, they had to unalive him, he fought at the door and Xana was in the room as another witness, so she had to go also. Whoever did this, the Fraternity guys they jump in shower clean up and leave, Dylan was the lookout
I agree 💯 I remember in the beginning, DM heard water running . Someone showered, and I believe Dylan knows the truth . Who they were!!
Shower... LE tested blood in the bathroom sink is known, so they would find it in the shower if used.
yes if we have LE that are not biased nor protecting the college that basically is there job security. I do respect your opinion as well.
Agreed 💯💯
Bleach covered whatever could have been in the bathroom. Think about how a man would stab someone and how a jealous woman who is full of hate would stab someone. Kaylee was supposedly stabbed 57 times and here wounds were not clean stab wounds. Her body was mutilated. Complete overkill! And Emma, Dylan, and three other men were out on the deck smoking early in the morning after the murder time.
Caden Young (the Idaho student who overdosed from drugs purchased from Emma Bailey/Dementrius) was a Journalism major who LOVED to write. He was in a Fraternity & always on Deans List. Does anyone know if he wrote or had anything to do with school newspaper? I’ve always thought he might have been doing some investigative journalism and it was not accidental that he overdosed 2 times in a 24 hour period…
well that is interesting... we shall see what we can learn. Thank you for sharing!~
Most journalism majors are on the school newspaper.
Who took him to the hospital or called an ambulance both times? The same people or was he found alone each time? Smells like the rat, emma bailey, is behind both times.
Hmmmm
Interesting. How close was Emma and DM? Were they dealing together?
Ok.
So does NO ONE ELSE, see Dylans belly button shape, squared shoulders and adams apple?🤷♀️
YEP..I BEEN SAYIN THAT FOR THIS
WHOLE ALL OF TIME~ HE DONT EVEN STAND LIKE A GIRL~ HE DISQUESTS ME WITH SHADEY
A~~ LOOK ALL THE TIME~ LOOK
HOW WHEN SQWEEZED ALl uP n
BETWEEN THE GIRLS HE STANDS
LILE PIGON TOED WITH HIS LEGS
LIKE AS TO TRY HIDING SOMETHING BETWEEN HIS LEGS...
Yeah I was wondering if anybody else was watching heshes neck area watching for his adams apple aswell...Do yah think 1 of the male dna found inside was Heshe'z ?
I have never from the very beginning trusted DM and BF. They heard nothing? Yeah right! They waited 8 hours before calling 911? Yeah uh huh, right, I don't think so! All along I've suspected that DM had something to do with what happened. In the subpoena why does it specifically state that they don't need to be worried about being arrested? Why would they be afraid of being arrested if they didn't do it? According to RCW 10.52.060
Confrontation of witnesses.
Every person accused of crime shall have the right to meet the witnesses produced against him or her face to face: PROVIDED, That whenever any witness whose deposition shall have been taken pursuant to law by a magistrate, in the presence of the defendant and his or her counsel, shall be absent, and cannot be found when required to testify upon any trial or hearing, so much of such deposition as the court shall deem admissible and competent shall be admitted and read as evidence in such case.
Why is it that DM and BF don't want to have anything to do with this case refusing to testify against a man who supposedly killed their friends and roommates? A normal person would be all over the fucker! Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke are full of shit IMHO!
DM aided and abetted, imo, and my gut tells me she set it all up for Kaylee to die as well. Targets were Ethan and Maddie, imo, but DM knew what was going to happen and was so jealous of Kaylee that she wanted her gone too.
Who was Dylan with that night it's never been talked about who was she with ????
Supposedly DM boyfriend never visited her in Moscow and she maybe got lonely and had a guy over. She was caught in her cheating by one of the girls and she didn't want her boyfriend to find out.
QK
That's a GREAT QUESTION!!!
Yes, and Dylan take out the girls and the 'mate' take out Ethan...but sorry, im not convinced Dylan is a female...so Dylan has strength too.
Affidavit said they found 1 footprint, in their second pass of crime scene. At first, that was leading them to think there was a clean up, but then didn’t hear another word about it!
Has these 2 “survivors” taken lie detectors? Just to see,what reaction appears… bc that 1 girl looks sooo Sus
Neither was considered a suspect from the get go.
It wouldnt be considered admissible in court..lie detecters are not accurate..a good liar can throw them off. They just have to belive in their story.
Mick Jagger 👀 Paint it black comes to mind ....
"I look inside myself
And see my heart is black
I see my red door
I must have it painted black
Maybe then, I'll fade away
And not have to face the facts
It's not easy facing up
When your whole world is black ...
Now you have me singing...
Dylan. Is really dillon. The goncalves know something. I'm certain...
yep!!!!
Yes, she/he is trans allegedly
Dm is guilty....her boyfriend has a taser.....Le has tasers
I would love to see all the CCTV of the immediate area captured between 3.00a.m - 12.00 midday when LE arrived. The activity within those 'lost' hours would be very revealing. I hope this is ALL preserved.
Yes
Remember when people said Bethany left the house around 3am that morning and wasn't home .
I sure do.
I still think she was picked up by Brian and brought back in the morning which is when he is seen in neighborhood again
Those girls definitely know more!!! This whole story just does not add up...
I have always thought DM was involved. Interesting theory with the taser. 👀
Praying for true justice. 🕊️🙏🏼
Dylan is the one that called Kaylee to go back there that day
I listen it. If is true is sus. to much.
I know it's not the most scientific evidence ever but I can't look at a picture of DM particularly when with Kaylee and not get a strange feeling from it. I just can't. Just my opinion of course but still no clear picture of her whereabouts for the night. We get it for everyone else but she is just a mystery for some reason. A witness statement that sounds like it was written by a cop with massive logical issues that are never explained. Nobody else would be awake for that. Hear the attack of 4 people. Describe a hooded person walking out the back door and then 8 hours of?? Come on. The only way a noon 911 call makes sense is if she partied too hard and just crashed. Not hearing anything. The fact that she's a witness is the biggest problem here considering her actions from 4 am on. Then no clear answer for these obvious questions and it's been over a year? I think DM hated those girls for some reason (maybe for ligitamite reasons 🤷 we don't know the dynamics of that house) and it's the one thing I can't shake every time I see these photos of the girls together.
Its time for those 2 survivors to take a lie detector test they know what happened one person stabbed 50 times and at least one of the victims could have got away DUH God help BK
This is what happens when small towns with universities as boss have city meeting about Rules if a crime happened with students. How their taught to contaminated a crime scene where no one would ever know who did it.
That rule is FRAT AND sororities..yep this place plus church uni cops and over half population students damn..actually cops keep it pretty calm. When I think about it.
Kids are being brainwashed and trafficked right at home ..Kaylee was trafficked hired then silenced
That new job she thought was saving the world was deep trafficking drugs child abuse.
Look at the sorority house when they called cops cause the man was inside..its full of equipment and beds..Kids stuff hospital equipment
Mother D, da D N A, is Magical! The entire police department is dirty, allowing this entire charade. From the minimal information, the people have a patsy, with a gloomy future.
A Jury will look at that bleeding house, take in the autopsy reports of the damages done & know full well one guy with eight minutes isn't capable of doing it & hopping in his Elantra & driving home without leaving trace in his ride. Or in his body. (remember his doc visit just days later?)
This all would seem to be a competition of sorts, with Cleanberger & Kopacka on one side & the idaho state police & a few Moscow cops & local cartel & students on the other.
Cleanberger seems smarter than all the locals.
He even took pains to get a physical afterwards to document it. lol.
Guy's going to be very rich when all the BS is revealed.
Always feel it’s Dylan that is guilty
That’s probably the most well thought out explanation. It makes so much sense! Agree💯💯Thank you ❤️
Thank you so much for watching!~
DM has very masculine traits. Anyone know why? Is she trans? Maybe she has a lot of physical strength
Every picture of dylan and the girls she looks at kaylee with an eerie smile like watch it girl ill get you kind of look. Probabky just me but she looks evil.
I love this video. Great work. I find it incredibly suspicious how LE is acting around this case. The roommates would be the obvious first place to begin this investigation, and from day 1 of the incident LE never directly said why they refused to look into the roommates or what they were up to at any point around the times of the crime. Zero transparency, bizarre answers, attempts to demolish the crime scene, clearing suspects without explanation and then an arrest out of nowhere with a PCA that makes no sense. They can't connect the suspect to the victims, place him at the scene of the crime or produce any DNA evidence outside of the house to make their story plausible. What the hell is going in this college town. Anyways, I look forward to watching more of your videos.
Thank you so much for watching!
No disrespect intended however if dark skin or Boys wouldn't they be taken in at.least interrogation charged??
What if people were waiting in roof ? Outside kaylee window ? I remember seeing a beer bottle in a crime scene photo . What kaylee ran into Maddie room ? This was done by a group of people . And think the Cops were a spin-off .
I agree with you! Your theory has made the most sense. It was all done from within!
Thank you for Watching!
AND...unless Dylan knew the girls were dealt with why not run upstairs to get them after seeing Ethan?
I think Dylan and the other survivor knows what happened there’s no way they dont. The killer leaves witnesses
Next question. Trigger warning here. But were the eyes open when they were found? Because if they were cleaning up and the Vics were there with eyes open, they may close their eyes to keep them from "watching them". Indicating of busy hours cleaning. Remember a neighbor saw DM and friends smoking a joint Allegedly. On the morning of.
If that was after the bodies were found, that's just sick!
" Hey man, there's dead friends in our house, let's get stoned man."
And if it wasn't Dylan that didn't pass out, then why didn't she call 911 herself, from HER phone?
Nice friend.
DM got Kaylee to come back as her plus one did her and Kaylee ever go to a party together or was it a rude I never trusted DM I always felt she was jealous and is involved in the murders 😢
Wait for real? Then did they go because she and M were out at bar? I heard her mom says she came back to show her car!
@@user-ph9sy9om8r, I think THAT party was Friday night.
If Showalter DONT TALK BK WALKS.
OMG! Yes!!! You fucking nailed it! My sentiments exactly 💯 👌 👏 🙌 You need to keep this angle going strong 💪. DM is the #1 most suspicious individual in this whole case. BF was probably a look out. What if they lured Bryan to the house somehow by promising sexual favors, a party, ect to get him to show up at the house? What if they had a friend somehow get the sheath into Bryan's hands where he could touch the snap then they cleaned all but the snap and set it aside to be planted after they committed the crime? What if BFs sculpitory evidence points to her inviting Bryan to the house so that he would be seen around the crime scene?
I pray the truth comes out. Haven’t heard about the use of a taser in this crime. Interesting. BK did not have time to shower in the midst of the 16 min MPD timeline??
That giant mouth wide open 🤣🤣🤣 that was good.❤❤❤
i agree with you. First murder was done earlier. And someone had the time to put clothes in bag, take a shower and clean floors.. Need a car vehicle to go throw the bag of clothes somewhere , that vehicle probably on camera somewhere but that case was not investigated properly. Totally one of the top three suspects ...
It was all about getting the dog while kaylee was there so when she had to leave Murphy would be missing but really with Jack D.
Jack is not the first or last boyfriend that took a dog back from their girlfriend and wont be the last.
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Something that is stuck with me that I think is important to the timeline is Ethan's mother stating that 2:00 is a dark hour. Why would she say 2:00 if the police timeline is after 3:00?
Kaylee went to Moscow PD two weeks before the murders to let them know about the drug dealing going on and she was afraid for Maddie also Xanax wanted to quit selling and focus on her relationship so that infuriated Dylan because she wouldn't have the party house anymore
Xana not Xanax
You're creeping me out showing Dylons face peeking on the side like that. 😂
I always think that picture used as the thumbnail of dylan and kaylie looks sinister the way Dylan is looking at her
Chief fry did say there were other people there around the time of the crime but he quickly deflected and said “but we’re looking at everyone” etc…
Small town knows who does what at what time and day. The plan was to frame BK because he runs around that area, and he would use the high speed internet as he passed that house. Just like Jack D used the houses internet
At this point, the trace dna could be a big lie too. Where's the proof?
New sub herre. I don't believe a word that comes from LE.
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It makes me wonder if one of the girls has a fling with a married Cop ? DM ?
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Excellent presentation. You covered these talking points superbly and I think it will be important for Ann Taylor to review the police cam the day of November 13, of how these two roomies appear in that cam footage.
Dylan s/b interrogated so strongly she sings like a canary. She knows something and I don't believe Bryan would have made the statement reguar
Actually! THESE GIRLS WERE NOT SWEET HEARTS. THEY ALL WERE TROUBLE SOME MORE THEN OTHERS.
THE ONLY ONECWITH A MOTIVE AND ANGRY AND PASSIONATE WAS Jake D and his girl friend Dillon.
Whaat? I thought DM was with QK.
DM makes no, 0, sense.
Speculating....what if they were drugged with something in their drinks to prevent them fighting off anyone, or even be able to scream? It could have been given to them by someone they thought they trusted. (Like what's being used in other vacation crimes.)
Def. A guy gave MM a pill at the GT and then motioned a "going to sleep" gesture with hands against his cheek and head parallel to the ground.
@SJSUPhilosopher : Thanks for a super video about the star witness. Wasn't there some evidence found outside the home, such as a black glove? But I agree with you that so far there is too little evidence that has been found outside the home.
There is one of the boys the cops talk too with more bushy eyebrows than Bryan.
Yup they were tortured.
Remember at the press conference a woman also asked about the ROTC? Yes, i definitely agree that whoever did this knew them personally. This was an act of rage and/or jealousy, not a crazed serial killer or someone high off of drugs. The question is not only what would have to happen to piss you off so much that you'd commit murder but what would 4 people have to do to enrage you and/or others into doing something like this. Not accusing the four of any wrongdoing but something had to have happened prior.
Beth is guilty too but smarter than dylan and good with her gender
I agree. I've never seen a case like this that so many people think it's off . Do you please have the video of Kaylee or Dylan getting into a car, please ?
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Thank you Annette so much!
Right from the start I thought DM had something to do with it. I don’t know what part but she had something to do with it and she knew about it. The police could’ve got it out of her. They should’ve interrogate her heavily when this first happened.
They saying she wasnt there so she wwouldnt have to testify also how she have exculpatory evidences to clear bryan k
Delyan is a suspect n so is Kaylee’s X-boyfriend n Jack Showater
Shudders YIKES OMG that look from Dylan In pics towering over kaylee ..with blood on her mind
Like she can hardly wait to hear her pleading and taste flesh
.is it true her heart was cut out and stolen?
Your story makes the most since no stranger is going to repetitive stabbing that make no sence
I Have always thought this. Coveralls would be a logical choice of clothing
I heard early on that DM wore Vans and there was a Vans footprint outside.
My inner gut says DM is involved and an important part of the set up and possibly clean up. Silence on her part is far from golden. And I think whoever did the killing, jumped in the shower to get rid of the mess on them. The water bill should be checked and see if there's a large increase in charges.
Every picture of DM when Kaylee's in the picture, looks evil eyed. I'd say their was jealousy involved. But I think this case is deeper than we think. I'd look at the college scene. This could be a large group effort. It has to do with loyalty and belonging. Anyone disagreeing with the group or deciding not to be a part of it, could be a target. DM needs to be forced to comply. The college is hiding the truth. And the scary part is the fact that the killers and their counterparts are running free.
M D , im going to straight say thing because alot of ppl got shut down when we try to voice this , so its not a wonder we all thought DM either let the killers in , or the killers where inside already... when i said this in a chat , i was told im victim blaming and how DARe i lol , lets get real here ❤ 😊
I think it was Xana that said someone is here and Ethan went out to check and walked into killer.
Dylan and Bethany took to long to call for help. Why? this sounds like a big cover up. Now Dylan, has pictures with a knife and mask on, she is a lair and women also murder, so whom else took them students out and murdered them. This is a big cover up. This two were not harmed and they saw the murder or murders ,but were not murdered.
The king rd.
cobra strikes again.
what do you mean again?
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I miss this mamma d , please don't change as sub count goes up,we all. loved th7s channel bc one of last few not afraid of speaking truth n calling it as it is, the truth is not meant to tickle everybody's ears sometimes it is meant to convince people to get more in alignment with what is actually right what is actually just what is actually pure what is actually noble what is actually true the problem in society now is you have to tiptoe on egg shells for everyone's emotions and their feelings which we all know is the number one way through deception like you can't be afraid about telling the truth as long as you're doing it humbly and kindly
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He doesn't have bushy eyebrows. His are dark. Not bushy.
I wouldn't believe anything the "survivors" said.
More than 7 hours passed before someone called the law? May I ask what happened during the staging hours of fake story line?
What about Maddie’s jacket? Who drove the girls home?
PLEASE tell me why none of the creators on this platform will consider something else went down at 1122 king. there are l e procedures like witness protection operation that would fit the evidence much more than 4 homicides. a very big one it would explain is l e and crime scene techs not observing rules and protocol of wearing has mat suits so not to contaminate the crime scene
Not to mention, certain activities are lucrative for everyone involved.
One of the 2 survivors is a man sent to be a handler in my opinion
I agree with you!
Bushy eye brows from BANDFIELD MADE THAT CALL
Would'nt a taser mark show on bodies in autopsy?
I noticed it was like they are modeling all photos on line that is strange under distress like they are cheerleaders on football team
Love the job you do.tanx. I get the feeling he's being framed by cops/ school. That cop being undercover,white car,all in black. Probably change time frame to cover his butt
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What is D history just before moving to Idaho was she involved in trouble before, bet she was please read on her past❤
Do we know 100% sure DM didn’t know BK?
❤ I love your opinion about the lack of clothing 👍. I always noticed DM seemed detached in their group? I also remember some video age's ago saying DM wasn't into the drug scene and tended to keep to herself???? Don't think so sonehow? But it hasn't come up again?
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I thought dylan and her boyfriend, were the ones who were friends with emma bailey and her drug dealer boyfriend? Byt tgen, kaylee vaped so........
Preach Sister!!
Wow new to the channel 👏 what an incredible video kudos to you
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Believe their jealousy you see this among money people at colleges
If killer or killers still out there they could be in danger or if they are involved which I believe maybe Dylan's boyfriend walked right in and helped by Dylan cleaning up n making it look not cleaned up
Dylan had knowledge that something was going to happen
Supposedly there were several who had only fans accounts
Those ideas are very plausible... Makes sense...