Roman History 06 - The Late Republic 1 200 - 130 BC

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  • čas přidán 18. 05. 2016
  • This is from the podcast series The History Of Rome by Mike Duncan.
    He currently does The Revolutions podcast
    www.revolutionspodcast.com/

Komentáře • 268

  • @mikecarter4258
    @mikecarter4258 Před rokem +66

    Am I the only one binge listening to this six years after it was put on CZcams

    • @isqueakifyousqueeze2601
      @isqueakifyousqueeze2601 Před rokem +7

      🙋‍♀️

    • @aasifazimabadi786
      @aasifazimabadi786 Před rokem +5

      No, of course not. I started yesterday and I should be done before Memorial Day weekend (at latest). I wouldn't be surprised if there were people watching it 10, 15 years after it was uploaded. The history of Rome is a most fascinating subject; I just can't ever get enough of revisiting it.

    • @mostlyneutral
      @mostlyneutral Před rokem +9

      3rd time listening to this

    • @dorrithompson9164
      @dorrithompson9164 Před rokem +6

      Nope, I listen to this often. It's the best history lesson I've ever heard!

    • @MortenChristensen1979.
      @MortenChristensen1979. Před 11 měsíci +6

      I am on the 3 run...So no :)

  • @DiegoDiaz-vm9xx
    @DiegoDiaz-vm9xx Před 3 lety +128

    Mike Duncan made a book detailing a lot more this period. The Storm Before the Storm. Really worth checking it.

  • @Mikefantasia22
    @Mikefantasia22 Před rokem +19

    I highly recommend everyone give each episode two listens.
    Atleast for myself, I soak so much more in on the 2nd listen .

  • @thuzan117
    @thuzan117 Před 7 lety +95

    43:30 "and as you can see GDP is up, unrest in Greece is down and the auspex chickens have eaten well, by the way we should destroy Carthage, just putting it out there guys"

    • @-timaeus-9781
      @-timaeus-9781  Před 7 lety +11

      :)

    • @diro91
      @diro91 Před 3 lety

      Lmao ooo

    • @LoneKharnivore
      @LoneKharnivore Před 3 lety +5

      Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.

    • @azlanadil3646
      @azlanadil3646 Před 3 měsíci

      Imagine that today. Like Biden is up there in the senate “Yes, and this is why I think we should raise taxes 5% on the top 10% of earners, while lowering them on the bottom 20%. In addition we also need to spend more on infrastructure, and lower military spending. Also, I am of the Opinion we should burn down Tunis.”

  • @Larkinchance
    @Larkinchance Před 5 lety +66

    In regards to episode 28.
    It is remarkable how modern events seem to parallel Roman history. In particular, wealth disparity, the rise of the oligarchs and how this lays the foundation for tyranny. This does not bode well for the future because we live in a time where large scale events can happen in a very short period of time.
    I am enjoying this series. Thank you..

  • @andydcrus7169
    @andydcrus7169 Před 6 lety +17

    Brilliant podcast series. Great work Mike

  • @Gorboduc
    @Gorboduc Před 4 lety +13

    21:40 is the "I'll fuckin' do it again" meme.

  • @brickswaggerheart8740
    @brickswaggerheart8740 Před 7 lety +46

    really love this podcast. brilliant content. only wish that the sound quality was a little better, but honestly I would listen to this entire thing even if the sound quality was way worst. A testament to the content.

  • @vphiameradisogaarwa
    @vphiameradisogaarwa Před 2 lety +6

    I love Roman History and am disappointed that I just found this podcast series.

    • @dangerdan2592
      @dangerdan2592 Před 2 lety +4

      Well at least the podcast is completely finished so you can binge all of them without waiting. I just found it about a year ago. Enjoy. It's also on Spotify if you have that, so you don't have to keep youtube open.

  • @NeurosisOsmosis
    @NeurosisOsmosis Před 4 lety +143

    Cheap labor displacing the working class seems to be a common theme in history

    • @LoneKharnivore
      @LoneKharnivore Před 3 lety +43

      Everything in history is a common theme, that's why it's so important. He also talks about populist politicians polarising society, for example.

    • @Big-guy1981
      @Big-guy1981 Před 3 lety +10

      @@LoneKharnivore Populists don't polarize society: they take advantage of an already polarized societies.
      You can't blame somebody for banging your wife if you can't satisfy her.

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Big-guy1981 Oportunists are still devicive. They see a powder keg and decide perfect conditions for a lit match.

    • @juanferrero2009
      @juanferrero2009 Před 2 lety +5

      This series is so good, thank you so much for sharing this with us!

    • @LTrotsky21stCentury
      @LTrotsky21stCentury Před 2 lety +1

      @@gm2407 Who created the powder keg?

  • @seabound1350
    @seabound1350 Před 3 lety +5

    This episode describes so well the western world today.

  • @allenbarnes7565
    @allenbarnes7565 Před 4 lety +6

    Everything is excellent! I love well written well narrated (watch the occasional mouth smacking noise between sentences) good voice, good speed, excellent!!

  • @Masterbaade
    @Masterbaade Před 3 lety +3

    I AM LOVING THIS SERIES AND WISHED I HAD FOLLOWED WHEN IT CAME OUT!!!!!

  • @Bufoferrata
    @Bufoferrata Před 3 lety +17

    Caught an error: Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus' younger brother was not named Gnaeus. 25:06 His name was Lucius Cornelius Scipio later called Scipio Asiaticus for his victory over Antiochus.

    • @nicholaskrancher2693
      @nicholaskrancher2693 Před 3 lety +1

      no one cares

    • @juanferrero2009
      @juanferrero2009 Před 2 lety +9

      @@nicholaskrancher2693 i care ~~

    • @michaelmcgee2026
      @michaelmcgee2026 Před 2 lety +3

      @@juanferrero2009 me too

    • @alejandromadrid8075
      @alejandromadrid8075 Před 2 lety +1

      I caught that too. Thanks for pointing it out. Why was his name changed? I suppose the default answer is by mistake. However I think since the modern era we associate Asia with non-European peoples,

    • @user-li8rw5nj4o
      @user-li8rw5nj4o Před 6 měsíci

      I've changed my name to don't give shitious

  • @PritchDringle
    @PritchDringle Před 7 lety +25

    Love it! been listening to these every day!

    • @muricamarine9473
      @muricamarine9473 Před 7 lety +1

      same here, its my life's enjoyment and contrast listening to rome and turn these into latin

    • @georgemartin4963
      @georgemartin4963 Před 7 lety +2

      Terrence McLain Me too. Just wish he presented maps to better illustrate his narration.

    • @hankrogers8431
      @hankrogers8431 Před 5 lety

      You MUST be deaf not to hear that hissing.

  • @mmaphilosophy
    @mmaphilosophy Před 2 měsíci +1

    Unreal. I pray youtube never remove this

  • @RDO-tw4qn
    @RDO-tw4qn Před 3 lety +2

    I love the intro, and the show of course.

  • @HxH2011DRA
    @HxH2011DRA Před 7 lety +17

    "For all these years, the republic had survived for 2 main, overarching reasons: the lower class plebians had not been so impoverished that they had been driven to violent revolution to improve their material lot in life, and the upper class was unified enough that their internal rivalries did not spill out into the public sphere. Both of these critical linchpins were about to be removed, leaving civil war and class conflict as the order of the day."
    Well fuck...

  • @edifiedreader
    @edifiedreader Před 4 lety +4

    21:18 “Who’s the best general NOW, sucker?” 🤣

  • @alexandroskefalas4802
    @alexandroskefalas4802 Před 5 lety +13

    Could you please make the same about the Byzantine empire? The quality of your work is amazing. Keep it up!!

  • @Davey148
    @Davey148 Před 4 měsíci

    This is my 100th time listening to this podcast... so damn good

    • @mmaphilosophy
      @mmaphilosophy Před 2 měsíci +2

      It's the best. I listen to it in bed and find my self sometimes dreaming about what he's talking about because it's left on as I fall asleep, then I wake up and have to skip back to were I fell asleep 😂

  • @SteefPip
    @SteefPip Před 3 lety +6

    It was hard for me to fully take this one in, I was too worried that at any point you'd get attacked by the bee's. (11:30)

  • @phoenixrising573
    @phoenixrising573 Před 3 lety +17

    A series like this on US history could be really good too!!

    • @Moribus_Artibus
      @Moribus_Artibus Před 3 lety +1

      If you find someone, Ill literally pay them

    • @Omegaxero
      @Omegaxero Před 3 lety +1

      @@Moribus_Artibus He did do one on the US revolution that was good.

    • @Moribus_Artibus
      @Moribus_Artibus Před 3 lety +1

      @@Omegaxero Yes! Part of his revolutions series. Do you know anybody who does a good take on US history after the fall of the Soviets up until the Recession of 08?

    • @tessierashpoolmg7776
      @tessierashpoolmg7776 Před rokem

      Get busy professor.

  • @thomasweldridge5976
    @thomasweldridge5976 Před 2 lety

    Thanks ,this is excellent

  • @hongcha2020
    @hongcha2020 Před 6 lety +4

    I am a fan. Good stuff.

  • @Comando96
    @Comando96 Před 6 lety +34

    _"It's historical, it's human, you have to have an enemy. So much was built out of this role of the enemy. Your foreign policy, quite a bit of your economy, even your feelings about your country. To have a really good empire, you have to have a really evil empire. _*_We are going to do a terrible thing to you, we are going to deprive you of an enemy."_*_ -_ Georgi Arbatov, _speaking of the Glasnost demilitarization of the Soviet Union, and the implications for the United States_
    Eerily familiar.

    • @kajbubu
      @kajbubu Před 5 lety

      They found a new enemy rather quickly haha

    • @adolfhipsteryolocaust3443
      @adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 Před 3 lety

      @@kajbubu *made up

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 Před 3 lety

      First time I have heard the quote. Simple, perceptive, seems acurate that without a motivating force a construct needs substituing into the place, or another challenge rise into the space.

    • @tylerscofield9799
      @tylerscofield9799 Před 2 lety

      America is not an empire and has never been an empire. What Empire that has ever existed gave what they had just fought and bleed for right back to the people they were just fighting? There is no society that ever conquered a people then turned around and gave it back to them, everyone said we went to war in Iraq for oil, yet we gave all the oil contracts to the French, We have the Canadians right to our North, huge natural resources, yet we get into trade wars verse taking it they could not stop us. No what has happened to the U.S. started in the 1930s with the welfare state that started with all the social programs Rosevelt implemented. The same happen to the British at the same time. There are always enemies to fight. No what has happened is a huge bloated federal government, Before WW2 began we had a military of a little under 1 million men, we spent no money on defense. No we made another mistake after WW2 we didnt finish it. The Russians had an Alliance with Germany to spilt up Europe, the English and the Frech went to war because Germany and Russia invaded Poland. Yet we let the Soviets keep what the had wanted to begin with. No we were tired of war and took the easy way out instead of turning our nuclear arsenal against them and finishing it before they got nukes,
      What America has lost is quit simple, or leaders now have no incentive to innovate. They have cushy 250k jobs great benefits, 8 and a half weeks paid vacation every year. America could not win a war with China or Russia. No what we lost wasnt an enemy to fight but the courage to fight the enemies that have pulled a Paplatine

    • @crazyyyyy2945
      @crazyyyyy2945 Před rokem

      ​@@tylerscofield9799 typical American yank. Believes the whole world, full of perceived "enemies" should be dominated by America; nuked if necessary
      Grow up and get your head out of your ass

  • @darrylrock831
    @darrylrock831 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Totally addicted

  • @jimtaggert42
    @jimtaggert42 Před 2 lety +2

    1:10:07 good enough description of today!

  • @geekgrrlMizD
    @geekgrrlMizD Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the info. Has the book been out long? Is it easily available?

  • @mazareen
    @mazareen Před 7 lety +5

    This+Total War Rome II= "The Die is Cast!","Over the Rubicon!!!"

    • @cybersasho
      @cybersasho Před 6 lety +2

      Rome 1 is way better

    • @adolfhitmaker8639
      @adolfhitmaker8639 Před 6 lety +3

      Seige a city with 2 armies
      1 main army, 1 support army
      support army is all war dogs
      Knock a hole in the walls
      unleash thousands of pissed of war dogs into their city
      Laugh, look down on them and laugh

    • @jerseymusicman3332
      @jerseymusicman3332 Před 4 lety

      Ma'Zareen czcams.com/video/c6ATAJLdLuw/video.html

    • @jerseymusicman3332
      @jerseymusicman3332 Před 4 lety

      Really, not much is about Roman History... just a song Crossing the Rubicon. Hope you like...

  • @greyinglis7570
    @greyinglis7570 Před 3 lety +3

    Slavery in ancient Rome sounds more like a modern compulsory internship with more benefits, depending on your um... employer.

    • @loganm986
      @loganm986 Před 6 dny

      Nah. They were housed and fed and paid depending on who the dominus was

  • @loganm986
    @loganm986 Před 6 dny

    I am still amazed how much Greece deserved every bit of it

  • @parhhesia
    @parhhesia Před 3 měsíci

    The Senatorial class broke the law by monopolising land. The Gracchi brothers broke the law to fix that (before dying at the hands of Senatorial death squads). As great as Mike Duncan is, he echoes the views of those who sent the death squads by blaming the Gracchi brothers for violating the 'sacrosanct' law, while gliding past the rampant law-breaking that made it absolutely necessary.

  • @joelkavanagh1464
    @joelkavanagh1464 Před 2 lety

    ,,, worth-while life n owl lessons per passage r amazing ...

  • @juanferrero2009
    @juanferrero2009 Před 2 lety +8

    This series is so good, thank you so much for sharing this with us!
    I think that the USA can learn many a lesson from this period of the late republic. As I see it, the high class of the country beneffited so much from globalization, that they left the working class unattended. This, based on an overreached discourse of liberty and self-determination... Which has proven itself impractical.
    I say this with no ill will, best from Colombia, brother country to the US.

    • @tylerscofield9799
      @tylerscofield9799 Před 2 lety

      please explain how "overreached discourse of liberty and self determination"?
      I am an American i believe where the world and America has gone wrong. Is people have distilled liberty. Where u say it is impractical. I say Liberty died when people thought the government gives u liberty. Humans need suffering look at the American youth their life's are so good that they are willing to burn down their own neighborhoods for people not calling them, "it, her, she, they". The Romans proved this also. They became so soft, nothing was enough.

    • @LTrotsky21stCentury
      @LTrotsky21stCentury Před rokem +1

      The U.S. won't learn it - just as the Roman ruling class did not. The only path forward for humanity is for the rest of the world to see the U.S. for what it truly is, not the beneficent force they imagine it to be.

    • @DogeickBateman
      @DogeickBateman Před rokem

      @@LTrotsky21stCentury Says the communist

    • @dominicp9296
      @dominicp9296 Před rokem

      @@tylerscofield9799 real shit

  • @josephconway6649
    @josephconway6649 Před 4 lety

    I know I’m late but damn, could the volume be any lower? Have to wear headphones just to hear a single word.

  • @LORDNAG1
    @LORDNAG1 Před 6 lety +15

    Skipio, Learn form Hannibal, Hence that's why Hannibal was the greater General. He and Hannibal knew this.

    • @hongcha2020
      @hongcha2020 Před 6 lety +13

      Yes. But skipio defeated hannibal. Why? Because hannibal failed to learn from skipio. Ergo, skipio was the better general.

    • @nicholasturner1439
      @nicholasturner1439 Před 5 lety +2

      @@hongcha2020 Argo ben Affleck

    • @SuperMrFriendly
      @SuperMrFriendly Před 5 lety +2

      @@hongcha2020 people can not even write his name right, so he can not be the greatest

    • @HFFCANADA
      @HFFCANADA Před 4 lety +2

      Its Scipio

    • @NateNT87
      @NateNT87 Před 3 lety +2

      Woe to the conquered

  • @selinabirkin1344
    @selinabirkin1344 Před 2 lety +1

    At around 12:00 what in God's name is that fly doing in your microphone?

  • @Paddythelaad
    @Paddythelaad Před 8 měsíci

    I love that 2 of the greatest generals of all time, who had both got power at age 25 & fought each other, had a discussion of greatest generals of all time. My list would be: Napoleon, Agrippa, Hannibal, Julius Caesar, Labienus, Davout. Looking at this list it seems really Rome & Naplonic France biased so I probably have gaps, there were some good German/Prussian ones. I would like to see how the Starcraft guys like ,Reynor, Gumiho & Kiwikaki would do as generals.

  • @Paddythelaad
    @Paddythelaad Před 8 měsíci

    Ungrateful fatherland, you won't even have my bones. What a guy, im so glad he was granted control of the army.

  • @thuzan117
    @thuzan117 Před 7 lety

    39:15 sarcasm right? Nothing about Perseus seems to indicate he was extraordinarily competent by any means.

    • @TheAiurica
      @TheAiurica Před 6 lety +8

      No, he was not. In fact, he was a despicable commander.
      Keep in mind that greek (macedonian) phalanx was just a solid line of hoplites armed with spears and shields. Light infantry (peltastai) and cavalry were separate units under overall command of senior commander. If phalanx became splinted, light infantry or cavalry should fill the gaps and prevent any flanking. But this require sharp eye, quick mind and decisive reaction. In the hands of skilled commanders like Alexander or Pyrrhus this would work quite well. But in the hands of less skilled commander, all this would crumble.
      On the contrary, roman legion had its own organic light infantry and cavalry. So, any suddenn change on the battlefield would trigger the reaction at a mid level command. Even in the hands of a less skilled senior commander, the degree of initiative at mid level command would exploit any oportunity or prevent an overall disaster.
      Of course, this arrangement would not prevent debacles like Cannae. It doesn't matter how skilled your subordinate commanders are if the senior commander is a dumbass. :)

  • @tommyodonovan3883
    @tommyodonovan3883 Před 7 lety +19

    146 B.C. the day Rome lost....a worthy enemy.
    And turned inward and civil war.

    • @nodinitiative
      @nodinitiative Před 6 lety +1

      Tommy O Donovan That is why the USA needs Russia and vice versa. Without either countries, those two countries would need "made up" threats which are actually very insignificant to distract their people.

    • @hailalexander93
      @hailalexander93 Před 6 lety +1

      nodinitiative I hope you realize what you just said there.

    • @nodinitiative
      @nodinitiative Před 6 lety

      Alexander Hernandez tell me what is wrong with my statement.

    • @hailalexander93
      @hailalexander93 Před 6 lety

      nodinitiative Nothing at all not trying to say your wrong. Just in my opinion foreign threats can be made up as well. Fear mongering on a global scale to keep the division intact.

    • @nodinitiative
      @nodinitiative Před 6 lety

      Alexander Hernandez your opinion is basically what I also said

  • @johnschmidt4616
    @johnschmidt4616 Před 3 lety

    How would the battle of Zama gone for Scipio if Rome hadn't bribe it's way to victory?

  • @johnsonteina7738
    @johnsonteina7738 Před 2 lety +1

    RIP the Gracchis

  • @drswag0076
    @drswag0076 Před rokem

    Macedon at that time was ruled by the descents of Antigonus who originally ruled Asia minor but later took Macedon. Phillip V is his descendent.

  • @audreydempsey247
    @audreydempsey247 Před 6 lety +5

    This is like listening to the fall of the eu. Hopefully sooner rather than late me hope's.

    • @LoneKharnivore
      @LoneKharnivore Před 3 lety +3

      ...you realise that the period after the empire fell was disastrous, right? It was only Charlemagne re-uniting a large European community that ended centuries of conflict and strife.

  • @Jrogs4
    @Jrogs4 Před 3 lety +2

    The mispronunciation of envoy is a little annoying

  • @alexanderiverson707
    @alexanderiverson707 Před 3 lety +1

    I’m really disappointed that Carthage didn’t get salted moms eggs style.

  • @jbussa
    @jbussa Před 5 lety +1

    almost as well known was Congressman Traficant's mantra of "Beam me up Mr Speaker!"

  • @thepo3560
    @thepo3560 Před 4 lety +4

    SPQR

  • @ThisTrainIsLost
    @ThisTrainIsLost Před 3 lety

    When you use the term “decimated,” do you mean it literally or colloquially?

    • @HateTaxesWASt
      @HateTaxesWASt Před 3 lety +2

      In Roman times, it was literal, every 10th man would be killed. But now it's definitely colloquially.

    • @ThisTrainIsLost
      @ThisTrainIsLost Před 3 lety +2

      @@HateTaxesWASt In current usage, “decimated” is usually referring to some near-absolute catastrophe, much worse than the 10% casualty rate of the literal Roman usage. Not that it matters a whit but out of curiosity, I wonder when that particular word began to be misused. I know that languages change all of the time but not all of the changes are for the better.

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 Před 3 lety

      @@ThisTrainIsLost Current useage is so poor when we have the word "Annihlate" to mean reduce to nothing. Which is better when we are talking about destruction whilst exagerating the amount. "Decimate" is rather an undersell.

    • @incompetentobjectivist3850
      @incompetentobjectivist3850 Před 2 lety

      @@ThisTrainIsLost neither, incorrectly.

  • @Paddythelaad
    @Paddythelaad Před 8 měsíci

    How can they not trust Hannibal, who swore a vow of hatred to Rome & lived accordingly , to fight Rome as general of the army. I get fearing popularity/Jealousy but I think they underestimated Hannibals hatred of Rome.

  • @namlese4577
    @namlese4577 Před rokem +1

    bro those cicadas

  • @IDNeon357
    @IDNeon357 Před 6 lety

    23:55 Parchment omfg Papyrus!? Wtf. Pergamon was a rival to Alexandria because pergamon used sheep skins for their library. Which rivaled Alexandrias library and we get the name PARCHMENT from pergamon.

  • @charlesshack3224
    @charlesshack3224 Před rokem +5

    No. I’ve got rusty old synapses turning back into excited highways myself. My oldest son finished binging the series and also loved it. In 1968 I spent a few months wandering all over Greece and crashed in the hippie community living in the furnished caves at Matella in Crete. Hitchhiking up to Thessaloniki to sell platelets or blood just to refresh stash $ 😂 Those were wonderful times in the global counterculture 😊

  • @wespeakyournames7227
    @wespeakyournames7227 Před 2 lety

    Where is the beginning? Of roma i mean.

  • @LoneKharnivore
    @LoneKharnivore Před 3 lety +1

    *War were declared.*

  • @richardscathouse
    @richardscathouse Před 3 lety +7

    Like every mistake America is making today, no one can Garrison a world.

  • @AA-bn7tf
    @AA-bn7tf Před 5 lety

    42:00

  • @therealtoni
    @therealtoni Před 4 lety

    The title and the episode to no match

    • @LoneKharnivore
      @LoneKharnivore Před 3 lety +1

      ...what? The title is absolutely accurate, that is the period covered by the video.

  • @dizzleblackizzle
    @dizzleblackizzle Před 7 lety +5

    you cant get away with misusing the phrase "decimated" with students of Roman history 13:58

  • @Viktors633
    @Viktors633 Před 4 lety

    1:26:00

  • @alexandriaoccasional-corte1346

    How can someone fuck up such brilliant content with such poor sound quality...

  • @joshp1427
    @joshp1427 Před 7 lety +3

    ha

  • @JoseFernandez-qt8hm
    @JoseFernandez-qt8hm Před rokem

    don't believe anything until it's officially denied.....

  • @warnerro10
    @warnerro10 Před 3 lety

    The audio quality of these episodes is downright terrible, constant ringing and static in the background make it annoying to listen to

  • @joelkavanagh1464
    @joelkavanagh1464 Před 2 lety

    ,,, ' el noma de la rosa " ...

  • @stephendedalus9878
    @stephendedalus9878 Před rokem

    Flamininus, not Flaminius

  • @jstantongood5474
    @jstantongood5474 Před 11 měsíci

    Excellent content. Just wish you wouldn't convert the letter "I" into an Anglo- diphtong . Epirus (uh Pye rus) Instead of EH- pih- rus. Gracchi (Gra-kye) instead of Grah-kee. Otherwise lovely narration.

  • @AA-bn7tf
    @AA-bn7tf Před 5 lety

    1:10:00

  • @annpeerkat2020
    @annpeerkat2020 Před rokem +2

    13:53 disappointing to hear a skilled roman era narrator use the term "decimated" contrary to its true meaning.... suggesting it means devastated, rather than taking 10% casualties.

  • @hankrogers8431
    @hankrogers8431 Před 5 lety +1

    OH HELL NO THAT HISSING IS FUCKING TORTURE!

  • @Nonamearisto
    @Nonamearisto Před 7 lety

    I think you mean "supplemented" not "supplanted."

  • @JuliantheApostate361AD

    The Greeks weren't "eastern", they laid the foundation for western civilization, they started it, Greece was just the funnel of the east into the West, but as I said, the ancient Greeks started what we know as western civilization.

    • @jamiecullum5567
      @jamiecullum5567 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Their entire independent history was spent looking east, first fighting the persians, then athenian empire, then Alexander, then fighting over Alexanders empire. All east or eastwards. They sent some colonies west but very few comparatively. How exactly do you think they laid the foundations for western civilisation?

  • @joelkavanagh1464
    @joelkavanagh1464 Před 2 lety

    ,,, ' do YOU,, mr/s Smith-=+Jones */ t' paraphrase bob d. " ...

  • @caseyh1934
    @caseyh1934 Před 2 lety

    Hellenic or early midieval would be clll

  • @user-li8rw5nj4o
    @user-li8rw5nj4o Před 6 měsíci

    Everton are boss

  • @joelkavanagh1464
    @joelkavanagh1464 Před 2 lety

    ,,, dept %-=+=+=-leverage *)( sic! ) ...

  • @70galaxie
    @70galaxie Před 3 lety

    Gra cus(?)think it's a short a

  • @forgetfulfunctor1
    @forgetfulfunctor1 Před 3 lety

    30:55 shkeemin

  • @onceANexile
    @onceANexile Před 3 lety

    I cant stand uk bloks talking about this.
    Great channel
    SOMETHING TO SLEEP BY....

  • @valmarsiglia
    @valmarsiglia Před 6 lety +3

    Antiochus = an-TYE-oh-cuss.

  • @joelkavanagh1464
    @joelkavanagh1464 Před 2 lety

    ,,, aductive beyond 8tall ...

  • @benquinney2
    @benquinney2 Před 6 lety +2

    Julius Caesar

  • @joelkavanagh1464
    @joelkavanagh1464 Před 2 lety

    ,,, privatized feudalism ...

  • @juanpascualdrake3319
    @juanpascualdrake3319 Před rokem

    The maniples defeated carthage and grece... The marian legions only themselves...

  • @blackbuffalo2686
    @blackbuffalo2686 Před 7 lety +4

    excellent narrative, love it. but Greece isn't the worlds oldest civilization; Egypt is the worlds oldest civilization

    • @SomebodyPerfectly
      @SomebodyPerfectly Před 6 lety +14

      Mesopotamia?

    • @ItsBodin
      @ItsBodin Před 3 lety +8

      I think he was talking in place of the Greeks who probably thought they where the oldest and everyone else was barbarians

    • @sipjedekat8525
      @sipjedekat8525 Před 3 lety +4

      @BLUE DOG the antikhytera device was created while greece was already firmly under roman rule. The question in this thread was aboit the oldest civilizations, which certainly weren't the Greek, not by a landslide. The Sumerians, the Akadians, the Egyptians, hell even China all had bustling cities and vast empires while the greeks were nothing more than disorganized hill tribes. The Greek civilization was impressive and certainly unique, but you should really read some history books before you go ahead and call people stupid.

    • @ItsBodin
      @ItsBodin Před 3 lety

      BLUE DOG BLUE DOG Your the idiot if anything by adding the requirement of creating something smarter than the other group. Civilization is groups of people coming together in urban areas due to the advancement of agriculture and religion, the Sumerians were older than the Greeks, and so where Mesopotamia, and Egypt, and those three actually formed enpires. I don’t understand where your coming from, because simply put, and using your argument, the Greeks arnt even a civilization! Because we have Macs, items that can access the vast wealth of human knowledge at our finger tips! What do they have? A primitive computer that has very very limited uses? As said by my favorite fictional character, just like your mind, so uncivilized! :)

    • @annwilliams6438
      @annwilliams6438 Před 3 lety

      BLUE DOG what a pity the current day Greeks cannot even keep an economy together....

  • @johnnyjohnny2650
    @johnnyjohnny2650 Před 2 lety

    Great podcast. Awful recording. Some headache inducing whines and screeches in this one.

  • @Jacen436987
    @Jacen436987 Před 11 měsíci

    if greece was so free. why were they so small minded and not unifying their country into greece. if they had learned to put aside their small, petty crap aside maybe they wouldn't have been rolled over by the romans so easily.

  • @bekimhalimi6919
    @bekimhalimi6919 Před rokem

    Where is Greece on the map ,the story that there is a Greek people is fake, there is a alphabet that is now called greek but it is called Phoenix or something else that came from Egypt .
    But the truth is that it is the Illyrian peninsula where their only descendants today are Albanians.
    The Greek name began to be used 150 years ago ,when the world agenda decided to make a state out of many races that had the Orthodox Christian religion , and the native Albanians were removed from their country and replaced by Asian and Caucasian . When you talk about history , you cannot call the old Greek cities,those who live in that country today do not know how to read the old writings that are engraved in the archaeological sites. You can call them Illyrian cities but not Greek.

  • @Administrator-ed3nl
    @Administrator-ed3nl Před rokem

    1:03:00