Rob Delaney reads a letter sent by an Ancient Roman who had been stood up

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  • čas přidán 17. 01. 2024
  • One evening in the year 97 AD, Roman lawyer Pliny the Younger found himself alone at his dinner table, a seat conspicuously empty. His friend Septicius Clarus, who had promised to join him for a night of food, wine, and conversation, had failed to appear. Pliny responded with a snub letter.
    Rob Delaney joined us at the 10th anniversary Letters Live show at London's Royal Albert Hall to read Pliny's letter.
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Komentáře • 62

  • @Terri_MacKay
    @Terri_MacKay Před 4 měsíci +164

    He was offering comedians, readers, AND lyre players, and he was still stood up?? I hope that those dancing girls from Cadiz were worth it. 🤣🤣

    • @Barefoot_Joe
      @Barefoot_Joe Před 4 měsíci +7

      You know they were worth it, he got whipped for that insult

    • @Terri_MacKay
      @Terri_MacKay Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Barefoot_Joe 🤣🤣

    • @laupernut
      @laupernut Před 4 měsíci +3

      Dancing girls and oysters 🤔👍

    • @laupernut
      @laupernut Před 4 měsíci +2

      Dancing girls and oysters 🤔👍

    • @Terri_MacKay
      @Terri_MacKay Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@laupernut I forgot about the oysters. Now it makes sense. 😂

  • @SiiriCressey
    @SiiriCressey Před 4 měsíci +45

    This voice is ideal for this letter.

  • @tamsinpurkess5646
    @tamsinpurkess5646 Před 4 měsíci +58

    What’s striking is that this letter was preserved,
    either by the sender,
    who might’ve thought better of sending once he’d sobered,
    or by the recipient,
    who might’ve shown it to her friends for amusement. 😂

    • @lomax343
      @lomax343 Před 4 měsíci +10

      Pliny the Younger preserved most of his letters - sent and received. Various collections of them have been published, and they make interesting reading.

    • @favouritemoon4133
      @favouritemoon4133 Před 4 měsíci +9

      Septicius Clarus was a man.

    • @carolynm8421
      @carolynm8421 Před 2 dny

      Yeah, women wern't walking around free and clear without a male relative in Rome. It was a man.

  • @RobertDPore
    @RobertDPore Před 4 měsíci +67

    "I survived Vesuvius for THIS?!'

    • @pendorran
      @pendorran Před 4 měsíci +3

      That's Pliny the Elder. He didn't survive. 🙂

    • @RobertDPore
      @RobertDPore Před 4 měsíci +12

      Both Plinys were there - we only know about Elder's part in it because Younger wrote his first hand account to Tacitus several decades later. In fact, Pliny the Younger had to flee his home with his mother as ash rained down on them.

  • @youneverknow1316
    @youneverknow1316 Před 4 měsíci +13

    Pliny speaks of "Barley Water". Fun fact is that Russian River Brewing Company has an IPA named Pliny the Elder which has been one of the top rated IPA's for some time (Also a seasonal Pliny the Younger) I had only heard of their involvement in eruption of Vesuvius after I visited Pompeii.

  • @kristenrosales2919
    @kristenrosales2919 Před 4 měsíci +11

    I would love to dine with Pliny the Younger, especially when he has a list of entertainers and excellent food to offer. This is an opportunity that I could not miss.

  • @CatsandJP
    @CatsandJP Před 4 měsíci +21

    The Romans even had Michellin star dining back in 97 AD…Heston Blumenthal and Gordon Ramsay..eat your heart out..😂😂😂

  • @HighKingTurgon
    @HighKingTurgon Před 4 měsíci +29

    In two decades of Latin study, I never expected Pliny to sound like that.
    Original text, for those interested (delightfully, he includes a full, polite salutation to Clarus):
    C. Plinius Septicio Claro suo s.
    Heus tu! Promittis ad cenam, nec venis? Dicitur ius: ad assem impendium reddes, nec id modicum. [2] Paratae erant lactucae singulae, cochleae ternae, ova bina, halica cum mulso et nive - nam hanc quoque computabis, immo hanc in primis quae perit in ferculo -, olivae betacei cucurbitae bulbi, alia mille non minus lauta. Audisses comoedos vel lectorem vel lyristen vel - quae mea liberalitas - omnes. [3] At tu apud nescio quem ostrea vulvas echinos Gaditanas maluisti. Dabis poenas, non dico quas. Dure fecisti: invidisti, nescio an tibi, certe mihi, sed tamen et tibi. Quantum nos lusissemus risissemus studuissemus! [4] Potes apparatius cenare apud multos, nusquam hilarius simplicius incautius. In summa experire, et nisi postea te aliis potius excusaveris, mihi semper excusa. Vale.

    • @tamsinpurkess5646
      @tamsinpurkess5646 Před 4 měsíci

      “A thousand other dishes” hm 🤔

    • @HighKingTurgon
      @HighKingTurgon Před 4 měsíci +7

      Untranslated is the last line: in summa experire-et nisi postea te aliis potius excusaveris-mihi semper excusa; i.e., "to conclude, after this you will always need to excuse yourself to me, even if you don't need to make excuses to others."
      It makes a LITTLE bit more sense when you realize that Pliny and Clarus were good friends.

    • @kristenrosales2919
      @kristenrosales2919 Před 4 měsíci

      From which letter and volume did you find in Pliny the Younger's letters from? I have volume one in digital form.

    • @HighKingTurgon
      @HighKingTurgon Před 4 měsíci

      @@kristenrosales2919 I'm only aware of a single volume of epistles. This one is usually numbered eleven.

    • @kristenrosales2919
      @kristenrosales2919 Před 4 měsíci

      @@HighKingTurgon Thank you very much. I will look into it. In addition, thank you for transcribing the original letter in latin.

  • @jcsrst
    @jcsrst Před 4 měsíci +25

    People have always been petty😂

  • @jeanhawken4482
    @jeanhawken4482 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Love it

  • @Tysto
    @Tysto Před 2 měsíci +3

    Before passive aggressiveness was invented, Romans were just straight-up aggressive.

    • @wathaet1386
      @wathaet1386 Před 29 dny

      Meet any Italian or Greek of today and you will find little is passive about their agressiveness when wronged or perceived so.

  • @ShastaOrange
    @ShastaOrange Před 3 měsíci +5

    Dude must have been kicking himself when he realized he could have been eating snails instead of sea urchins.

  • @BeOurBee
    @BeOurBee Před 4 měsíci +8

    "We could have had a great causal time, innocent and unguarded, but now I'm going to sue you."
    More like WHINY the Younger, m i rite?

  • @chocolatefrenzieya
    @chocolatefrenzieya Před 4 měsíci +5

    Aww, poor guy, I'm sure that hurt! And yes, snow was rare and hard to come by! It is hard to compete with dancing girls, though. I hope they made up!

  • @Ike_of_pyke
    @Ike_of_pyke Před 3 měsíci +1

    Like an rpg dialogue box
    > [Bye]
    "Farewell" (npc walks away )

  • @aps-pictures9335
    @aps-pictures9335 Před 4 měsíci +28

    Lol Roman ‘Nice Guy’

    • @HighKingTurgon
      @HighKingTurgon Před 4 měsíci +5

      You don't ask a woman to dinner in ancient Rome. This is men's correspondence.

    • @aps-pictures9335
      @aps-pictures9335 Před 4 měsíci

      @@HighKingTurgon the relevancy of your point is?

    • @HighKingTurgon
      @HighKingTurgon Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@aps-pictures9335 Pliny's letter is inconsistent with the behavior of a Nice Guy. Many of the claims are similar, but the tone and outcome are thoroughly distinct.

    • @aps-pictures9335
      @aps-pictures9335 Před 4 měsíci

      @@HighKingTurgon in what way?

    • @HighKingTurgon
      @HighKingTurgon Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@aps-pictures9335 this is a letter from one man teasing his good friend for ignoring the lavish party he threw and expected him at.
      He's not hitting Clarus up for a hot date.

  • @deathybrs
    @deathybrs Před 4 měsíci +9

    She was right to stand him up.

    • @luciahoneybee
      @luciahoneybee Před 4 měsíci +9

      *He. The person whom Pliny was waiting for, Septicius, was a man as well.

    • @blindknitter
      @blindknitter Před 4 měsíci +1

      I was here to say that!

    • @elenabal4885
      @elenabal4885 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@blindknitter Yes, a man. No need to be here, have to know a bit ancient roman culture

  • @my3boysms
    @my3boysms Před 3 měsíci +3

    are these letters real

  • @catherinemori4496
    @catherinemori4496 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Pliny! Letters I.15

  • @GimpyChinaman
    @GimpyChinaman Před 4 měsíci +5

    OG Noce Guy

  • @hannekezijlmans6578
    @hannekezijlmans6578 Před 4 měsíci +7

    🐌🐌🐌 🤣

  • @kristenrosales2919
    @kristenrosales2919 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I wonder how much did Pliny the Younger spend on this dinner? That must have been quite a large sum.

  • @catherinemori4496
    @catherinemori4496 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Is this Martial?

    • @HighKingTurgon
      @HighKingTurgon Před 4 měsíci

      Pliny. To his friend Clarus also of the imperial court.

  • @olorin4317
    @olorin4317 Před 3 měsíci

    More like Pliny the Whinger.

  • @carolynm8421
    @carolynm8421 Před 2 dny

    You really wanted this guy for a friend. You didn't show which while rude (although we don't know the reason, he could have been sick) probably doesn't deserve a roman legion send after you followed by being displayed on a cross in your yard.

  • @sv3216
    @sv3216 Před 2 měsíci

    It sounds like Trump 😅

  • @vivalaleta
    @vivalaleta Před 4 měsíci

    Performing girls from Cadiz? Ew

  • @user-ln6qt1bp8v
    @user-ln6qt1bp8v Před 4 měsíci +1

    This guy is rubbish. When you don't know what to do: just shout.

    • @TheFrygar
      @TheFrygar Před 3 měsíci

      ya I'm not sure what the thought process was here - I think a teenager in a drama class could pull off a funnier and more interesting interpretation of this letter

  • @Ike_of_pyke
    @Ike_of_pyke Před 3 měsíci

    Like an rpg dialogue box
    > [Bye]
    "Farewell" (npc walks away )