Junior Leaders Infantry Battalion - Shorncliffe, Folkestone
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- A walk around parts of the former Shorncliffe Garrison, now titled, Shorncliffe Station. Including Sir John Moore Barracks, (formally the location of the Junior Leaders Infantry Battalion. Napier Barracks including the old Garrison Church and Shorncliffe Military Cemetery.
Wow. I was a Junior Leader in 1990 and SGT Warner - PTI used to beast us in the old Burgoyne Gym. Cannot believe as a listed building they have left it to rot.. Shame.
Thanks for the blast from the past. I did my training there back in 1977. I certainly remember the old gym and running up and down Hospital hill many a times. I had a lot of happy times there.
I too enjoyed my times there
Just a point of note, that woman had no authorisation to tell you that you were trespassing. If you are in a public place you may film whatever your eyes can see and, photography is not a crime.
Also you reached the rank of Warrant Officer class 1 (Regimental Sergeant Major) who is she, a camp follower or, wife of. Tell her to jog on!
I was tempted to stand my ground, she came out of a nursery school that's co located within the grounds of the old church. I pointed out that I was a veteran and just wanted to film the church briefly and also pointed out that on the open gates there was no signage. I told her she needs to keep the gates closed.
@@LetsTab59-bd4fdshe was probably scared you were exposing the illegals in the camp, your too polite lol, I'd have told her to foxtrot Oscar. Your a better man than me, I can't restrain myself.
Joined as Junior soldier in march 1987....brings back good memories Keith, thank you.
Cheers Dave 🫡🪖
We might have been in the same intake. I was 11 platoon Casino Company .
@evillabrador1 Dave Seal was section commander and I went off to 3 Queens after Phase 2 Bassingbourn
Did 6 months of Shorncliffe. Recked my shoulder. Had to start again at Basingbourne. The assault course from Full Metal Jacket was still up. Then went to Aldergrove with 3 Queens.
@evillabrador1 yes you must have been in the same intake..went off to Aldergrove aswell in A company, met some great people 👍
I was a junior soldier there back in 88
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Been in Napier a few times when using the ranges and training areas along the coast. There was a good little pub not far from the barracks. The Red Lion
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Keith you were wearing your beret when Mrs Busybody confronted you? 😂 💂♂️" Excuse me can I ask what you are doing? This is private land you are trespassing!"🤣 Lovely tour of the cemetery. Thank you Keith and Tracy.🙏
Yes, I did explain off camera what I was doing and why, and that I was a WO1 there and that I was on the team that helped the transition of the church over to a civvy theatre. She was having none of it.
What a Karen that bint was.
That's the cemetery we visited a few years back❤
Yes Brother it is
I started my Army Career at JIB aged 16 in 1987 at Shorncliffe. Best days of my life and wouldn’t change a thing.
Hospital Hill, now there’s a memory!!
Bloody Hospital Hill, breathing out my arse tabbing up there
@@LetsTab59-bd4fd I think we all were Keith 😁🤣🤣
Bet your number started about 2479ish.
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I did 2 weeks Basic Training for the A Coy 5 Queens ,TA at Shorncliffe back about 84,,, my God I am well old. It was a bit of refresher course having done time in Aldershot… prior to TA but got caught out by my CO,,,😂
Good old 5 Queens
Might be worthwhile taking a trip to Oswestry Keith, IJLB was based there longest. Great education for a young lad. There's the memorial in the park and gym still intact. Will jog the memory of old infanteers across the UK and the world.
Keith; all of those new houses are private homes. There are some Officers married quarters along Pond Hill road as well as the resident Battalion Commanders house next to what was the Garrison Officers Mess which has now been sold and converted to flats.
I get that we are in need of new housing stock but I do wonder where the money went after the MOD sold off the land?
@@LetsTab59-bd4fd The land wasn't sold off cheap, like the MoD normally do. The developers were given the land to build on, and when the houses are sold, the MoD gets a percentage of the market price for each house; so the more house prices rise; the more money the MoD make.
I expect that the money will likely end up in the hands of the Treasury though?
Its interesting to note that the POL point and the stores outlet are unsold, and I think that this is probably due to the cost of decontaminating the area around the 3 fuel storage tanks?
You should have said that you were coming to SJM Bks. You missed the veterans breakfast!! 🐅
Fascinating film thanks keith sorry for the loss of your sister bud
Thank you 🙏
I stayed with the Gurkhas in their training camp Gorka Nepal good people.
Very moving video Keith and sorry for your family loss. Despite that silly civvy housing lady. She ought to respect you sir and the military history there. Thank you Keith.
Thank you very much. I did explain (off camera) to that lady exactly what I was doing but she was having none of it.
My dad & uncle both served in the🇨🇦armed forces during ww2
Dad was a sapper Northwestern Europe 44-47
My uncle was in the artillery in Italy❤
I can remember walking from shorncliffe infants to the cemetery one summer , bunch of old Canadian vets and family came over and was so nice to meet them ,they gave us all maple leaf pin badges ,never forget them
Big respect 🇨🇦
The Martello towers must still be there. I was there in 87 when it was Junior Infantry Battalion.
Yes the tower near that back gate is now a very attractive house you can imagine the views
@@LetsTab59-bd4fd That’s the gate to slags alley.
Did my Sigs course there way back when...
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Many a time marching out of SMP, down along the front to the Lighthouse at Dungerness, back on the train, out and then tab it up hospital hill for dinner. Great little video on the CWG site, thank you, and respects to your sister. Keep well mate both you and Tracey
Thank you very much Baz 🫡
23 years and 200 days for me started right there in '77.
Great memories 👌
Did part of my O Type Cardre at Napier in 85
Sir Keith is there a way to get intuch with u mucker lots of memories lol'lmao winks lol!! Both my grandads went to hospital wen thay got gassed in ww1 an got bk to the trenches!! So thanks again sir 4ur video. Keep it going m8ty will only get better m8 ok hoping that have a gd day m8t!! Lots of memories lol'lmao winks lol thanks again for ur reply etc m8t big thanks again cheers mate 2u an tracer round!!
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@@LetsTab59-bd4fd cheers mate I'll ping u in the wk m8ty u ok etc xx have a gd wknd an wk mucker lots of memories lol'lmao winks lol yeah that's mint m8 cheers 4that will do!! Sooooon as brother blessing to u all brother an family have a gd wknd an evening and wk m8ty!!
Iknow them all well Napier and smp all of them was there many time's!!
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It was junior leaders and junior soldier’s . Leaders training was longer than soldiers our second half was done at lichfield
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Thay still r there m8t!! 😊😊
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Waterloo company IJLB shornecliff
I loved my time there. I then did my int course there.
Waterloo Coy 1984 section cdr LSgt Simmonds the screaming skull 💀 best section cdr I ever had
I remember 44 MI being stationed there
Any chance of a video on Army dentistry? 🧐
Not really, don't know much about them 😆
How have they got away with demolishing some of the old Napier barracks ,it was grade 2 listed,my dad was provo cpl in late 70s and I was at IJLB in the 80s, Napier barracks was a transit camp for NI trg and hyth / lydd ranges ,the Battalion church used to have a onl building next to it called Montgomery house ,we used to live behind it , Montgomery and Churchill visited the church back in the Second World War and it had spitfires flying over it whilst they were there ,I know this because the old groundsman back in the 70s told us ,,sad that it’s being sold off
You're so right John, I was there, (Risborough Barracks), and we used Napier Barracks often. It's was an old camp but was clean, warm and functional.
Hospital Hill then oxygen hill proper lick outside to see Napier falling apart.
My 1st posting on the Argylls🤣🤣🤣👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Remember tabbing up that hill breathing out my arse 😤
We had a lad join us from Junior-Leaders. On the way back from the ranges [Ran back-Aldershot Browning Barracks] He passed out. Our officer told us to leave him {Worsley-Tonks] I took his gat, whale took his webbing and Tim helped fireman carry him, we took turns and dropped him off at Cambridge hospital.
Got a right bollocking as we got back.!!! Turns out he would have probably died due to dehydration and lack of salt in the body.
He was too lazy to get up for breakfast, that's what you get for it.
He was transferred to another regiment. Didn't get to "P" company.
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❤❤welcome bk m8ty u ok etc m8t big thanks again cheers mate 4ur reply etc m8t big thanks again cheers mate 😊😊 i remember them days well brother hope you are ok n well n have a gd wknd etc ok bro have a grate evening and wknd Keith lad from a oldswet my self an ex'service AB ALL THE WAY BROTHER 😊😊
My wife and I have walked the cemetery plenty of times, due to my wife being born in Canada and having some relatives there buried. So until next time, I'll tab some more.
A sad but beautiful site. 🙏
Smp is there 2 m8ty go have a look at that been then 4 ww1/ww2.😊😊
Don’t you mean harrogate. That was the army apprentice college then became the army foundation College
Well spotted, 👍🫡
Awesome Vlog Keith. It's a pity that women could have been a bit more helpful but you do get those Karens"s everywhere
I tried of camera to explain what I was trying to do but she was having none of it
So much history being destroyed .😠
So sad
I hope you do one on Bassingbourn Barracks in Royston, It was the Queens division training depot in the 60's and 70's, the Memphis belle flew from it in WW2. It has a rich history, Lots of the lads leaving Shorncliff came to Bassingbourn after.
Was at Bassingbourn a few times. Not sure if it's still in use?
Thats were i did my jr'paras there m8t an its were thay filmed THE FILM FULL METAL JACKET!! 4THERE basic training!! To b a jar'head!! Usmc!
@@LetsTab59-bd4fd It was used for refugees for a while, not sure on its status today
@@LetsTab59-bd4fd . I'll ping u on the coms u gave me mucker an I'll put in the coms bk from me to you something that u can knows its me m8ty ok !! If ur coool with that brother blessing to u all brother hoping that all gd with u etc an family have a gd wknd an evening and wk m8ty will talk this wk ok mucker lots of memories lol'lmao winks lol green on mucker!! Ps. Look up a song called green on the paratrooper song!! U fkin lv it m8t big thanks again cheers mate yeah its a fkin gd song n says it all about us toms!!
@@JayMac-gh1kx Yes, that's right,and after they filmed that, the cast of Riverdance trained in the hangars, I did my training for the RRF in 74, I never knew the Memphis belle flew from there in WW2 until I saw the film, and read up about it. Good days.
You never have much luck. Everywhere you go so f**ker is mowing, cutting or making a racket lol
It was so frustrating as you say everywhere I went someone was working