Does Ten Hag NOT WANT Casemiro!? Craig Burley questions Man Utd's roster management | ESPN FC
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- The ESPN FC crew discuss Erik ten Hag's decision to leave Casemiro out of the Starting 11 in Manchester United's 6-3 loss to Manchester City on Sunday.
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He's right. If you needed any evidence that Casemiro was just a panic buy and not someone Ten Hag wanted, there's your proof.
Well … the alternative is not playing him and get slaughtered against any team that plays proper football. We have seen how bad eriksen was against city . So many times he gave the ball away .
Casimiro just another mercenary for utd squad and to think they paid 50m for him to steal a living 🤣 🤣 siting alongside cr37 at the Derby
@@wengelder9256 Eriksen? Not Bruno or mctomminay? Eriksen by far is the beat of the 3 who is being played out of position.
@@EE-kt8sh that I agree . But his game against city was poor . He could not connect with Fernandez at all. Anyway Sancho was the worst . Barely touched the ball.
@@wengelder9256 I think I would use Fred and casemiro and maybe bruno in front of them. Elanga and Antony on the wings and maybe cr7 up top
Being a Madrid fan and knowing Casemiro well, he can be producing stinkers from time to time but one thing he’ll be clutch in big games or when it matters the most.
As RM fans let's not forget how much Kroos and Modric covered for his poor on-the-ball ability. He wont get that at MU.
@@louismwobobia5773 let’s not forget when casemiro was injured and Kroos filled in vs city away last year. Only got bailed out by benzema. Fucking respect casemiro bc without him Kroos and Modric would’ve got exposed
@@David-rv4od lol
@@David-rv4od you’re speaking facts 👏🏽
100%. most of the time i hate casemiro on the ball and he can be garbage but oh boy, he is a tank without the ball, ultimate destroyer, no player defends like casemiro
It was a disrespect to casemiro,he was naïve because of the earlier results,you can’t leave casemiro on the bench.
yes he can, casemiro is finished… real madrid happily declined giving him a long & expensive contract….for good reason by the way…so erik ten hag has no obligation to play him if it wasn’t his signing
@@srs.airbag signing tchouameni means real doesnt want casemiro lol . real madrid cant put their 70m signing on the bench
@@KLHK1981 real does look at hazard 110 million on the bench
United fans and these pundits are fcking blind....talking about casemiro not Playing even if he starts its not like he could stand a chance against man City...
Real Madrid are renewing their team. They are selling all near to retire players.they have brought tchuamin to replace Casemiro. Problem is others thinks when a player is a star, he will remain as a star, that is not a case . Casemero before 2 to 3 years back is not as he is now. He is starting to decline and this is normal no player will be the same whole is entire life.I will say it’s a mistake for United to spend that amount of money for casemero.they could buy him for less that’s ok but not that amount.it’s the. Same for Ronaldo and Cavani.
Mu it has come as old retire players team .Every player near to retire will go to Mu.It’s ok if the player is still good and you get him for free and less salary or cheap, but you need also young players to replace those players.
Craig: You're not playing Brentford 😂😂
Shows how quickly Brentford's 4-0 win over them has been forgotten.
Imagine thinking Mctominay is a better player than someone who’s won the UCL 5 times.
to be fair casemiro would get a red card before the first goal
@@JR-em3mo fair on what?
McTominay got exposed yesterday. But not sure if Casemiro would’ve made much of a difference in fairness.
Cesamero was surrounded by big players that's why he wins 5 ucl
Wouldn't bring Ronaldo on out of respect for his career but brought on Casemiro? Not much respect for him especially playing McTominay ahead of him.
Absolutely mind blowing he didn't start Casemiro🤯
Not really city was just the better team. that's the same lineup against liverpool and arsenal and manu won both so why change that, its not mind blowing bro
@@yendi5584 having casemiro on the bench is absolutely mind blowing including those two wins tf you on 😂💀
@@yendi5584 beating Liverpool and Arsenal is not like trying to beat Man City.
@@yendi5584 to compare Arsenal and Liverpool to this current city side is absolutely absurd… do you not see the players city has and how well they attack? Nobody does it better currently.
@@ag6981 we ill see in the UCL
if im casemiro i just take the bench and collect since they say mctominay is the answer to the problems. we’ll see 😂
Easiest money every made
DE JONG made the best decision of his life
Exactly. United would have ruined him
He never wanted to go it was clickbait stories by the likes of little bretty at the clickbait stand
De Jong looks more of an ETH signing than Casemiro so he would’ve slotted in well. Not talking down on Casemiro but i don’t think he was on his list
I think this is the kind of arrogant managers who can ruin players .
@@vincentruzindana5306 true.....
What are ETH's achievements ?
It's kinda clear that he didn't want Casemiro. This seems like another glazer signing. Nothing else could explain why he hasn't started yet. His excuse that he's not match fit doesn't add up. He was playing in Madrid and also played for Brasil over the break.
It's just naive. Yes the stupid board keep signing players managers don't want but that's fucking casemiro. Start him. I would've picked 2 DMs and eriksen
@@yankeewz8377 Exactly
Agree, if he really wanted him he would be starting games by now regardless of form of other players. If he had signed de jong who he really wanted he would have been in the starting line up straight away 100%. As you say he was match fit before he signed so that isn't even an excuse, it all points to him not really being who ten haag actually wanted, it's pretty clear at this point.
@@tommullen8666 Exactly. Look at Antony. He didn't play at his former club and refused to train to force the move. He gets to United and is put in the starting lineup right away. All the players he wanted are in the starting 11.
Panic buy that over 4/5 year contract costing over 300million just another waste of money from utd
Like I said so many times UNLESS you are gonna massively dominate the opposition Eriksen and Fernandes can’t start together
Exactyl you can do that against middle of the table sides but not against City who have amazing passers of the ball. Against Arsenal you saw a little but of how fragile the midfield could be when they both start they just were not lethal and their mid isnt like Cities. Its really common sense. The first goal was actualy Erksons fault as he did not track one of the runners in the box and was jogging towards the runners. Sure part of it was Verane but the attacker was more near Erikson at one point.
Keep quiet !! We need more than those 2 players. Chill out mate!
Really!! ETH would hv started casemero and mc TOMINAY together and then subs Erik for bruno
@@lifetech4146 well said
Good point.
And if you do play with Bruno and Eriksen then one of them needs to be playing just off the striker.
Said it all along. Mctominay is One Of Ferguson and Fletchers favourites. They have enormous influence there. They are protecting their fellow Scot. Ferguson bough McNotalent to the club. He's been awful for years and is still an automatic starter. Van de Beek was a threat, he was banished. Casemiro is a threat, he's not getting a look in. There's a power struggle behind the scenes I'm betting.
I think it’s simply not true . Ronaldo was more than anyone Fergusons boy . Yet benched . Your theory does not hold up.
You are very correct
Strongly agree. This also holds true for Maguire- Bailly was spot on.
It’s the kind of theory coming from losers . If it all where true , which it ain’t , you deserve to be relegated and then it’s all just Small town talk of small town Manchester little people
@@lancerevo9747 I support you.There's power struggle in Man U.I don't trust Ferguson at all!
First goal was around 8 mins shak, the way how city played through the midfield and utilize the wings and the fact that dalot and malacia were on yellow so they didn't do much when it comes to defending and putting tackles in made it much more easier, as soon as that 2nd goal went in ten hag shouldv'e changed things, he didnt and they paid for it
In my oponion i think Ten Hag wanted to reward Mctomminay for playing well in the previous games and send a message to Casemiro ask to say that he had to earn his place which is absurd given the fact Casemiro is miles ahead better but since he was already benching CR7 he wanted everyone in the squad to know if you play will you will play which i like no doubt. Although it was naive to think Mctomminay would play better v Mnahcester City also it was naive to both start Bruno and Erikson as they both let the manchester city midfield take charge. In my oponion both Mctomminay and Casemiro should have started to track back. City has so many lethal passers and they had all day too look up and pass. Sometimes I feel managers are so obsessed with their philosophies that common sense goes out the window. Just Like how Guardiola gets fucked every champions league campaign.
If casemiro had start y'all would say 'why change a winning team'
Tenhang, rashford, Bruno, tominay, Maguire out
The story about keeping a winning side together only lasts for so long, Casemiro is clearly far better than McTominay and against a team like City you don't play him??.
You begin to wonder if something's going on.
Politics in Man U with Ferguson and Fletcher there!
He wanted Malacia, he's playing, he wanted Eriksen, he's playing, he wanted Antony, he's playing. He wanted Frenkie didn't get him, got Casemiro, didn't play him, it's clear he didn't want him.
he will play casemiro also, just wait a bit. he needs to focus on that people will be benched no matter who you are if the other guys in the same poss is preforming (earlier games, eriksson and mctomeny played well)
@@haakonhamer9122 another season no trophy
I honestly thought the same thing. I said it to myself that a player of his stature, since he didn’t start, does not need to go in after they were down 6-1. There was no chance of them winning at that point.
United Heisenberg: I want De Jong
thieves Glazers: no you get rabiot.
United Heisenberg: I quit then
thieves: alright alright here is casemiro
United Heisenberg: I said de jong
thieves: ye ye bla bla go win us the title!
@@mozan33r71 as if the glaziers care if pub hag quits lass 🤣🤣🤣🤡🐐
@@mozan33r71 that is stupid. Because by all accounts and reports it's not the lack of effort from United to get de Jong, it's just that de Jong doesn't want to move away from Barcelona.
If anything this shows how inept ETH is. If that position is so important for his strategy he should have a plan B, but through out the window, we never hear anything about who is that plan B. He doesn't have a plan B, and it also shows in the last match with City, when things don't go his way he doesn't have a plan B.
@@goonerOZZ exactly, where was the plan B or the adjustments. An elite manager on the other side left his best defenders on the bench to counter act the pace of our forwards. Obviously there’s a power struggle behind the scenes when it comes to both Casemiro and Ronaldo somewhat. But allowing us to continually get spanked second 4-0 at halftime in his first few games. Craig is hundred percent right. You could see the issues in the first 10 mins.
Casemiro and Ronaldo are the two most experienced players on United. Why not play them.
Well wrt CR7, it's the same reason Pique isn't playing for Barcelona (most experienced but isn't what the team needs right now)
@@komaddog Pique not in his best now, he makes a lot of mistakes, But CR7 is still one of the best strikers. and Casemiro is on his best, the problem is Bruno, De gea (non ball plying Goal keeper, he cannot hold a ball) , MC tomnay, Rashford, Sancho, LOL this team need to rebuld completelly.
@@FahimShan CR7 has definitely not been one of the best this season. Well his play time has been limited
@@FahimShan Lol..one dimensional attack with him ,, it would be 7 or 8-0. They scored no need of him,,Casemiro was a good option
This's excatly i thinking about casemiro's fate. What's the point of signing a world class dmf for 60£ million only to sit down on the bench and came of as a substitute in 2nd half. I can't understand ten hag mind set and he's keep playing the same 4-2-3-1 formation with the same excat players. Why not try something new like offensive 4-3-3 formation with new set of players 😞.
Kalvin Philips at Man City is gonna be that guy in the group project who almost does nothing and gets an A because the group got A 😂
😂😂😂True but in his defense tho. He has been injured. He would have come in for rodri today because rodri also got injured.
He is not gonna Get A😂😂😂
Stick to watching your beloved utd D group 😉 players
I think you’re talking about depth
He's injured atm, what's he's supposed do......go limp around the pitch?
Listen to Shaka say the first goal was about 18mins in. Lol. They don't even watch the games. Clowsn
Even before it was 1-0, you could smell that Utd were gonna be hammered unless they changed something quickly. Then they scored 1, no tactical change. 2, still no change. At that point you knew the game was over, it was just a matter of how many more goals. As a neutral, I was looking for a competitive game, got the exact opposite from the very beginning and the Utd coaching were clueless.
Imagine wasting money on a world class CDM just to put him on the bench, wouldn't be my club mancs🤣
I know right apart from Erikson that midfield is a joke. Bruno's passing at times is just bone headed
@@Anonassassin Eriksen was the worst CM on the field that day. Without the ball he does nothing. I'd rather have Bruno attempting to play 2 way football, than watch Eriksen get bullied like he did.
@@Gride9782781 Eriksen was the worst the whole midfield was horrible though that game defo needed casemiro and not both Bruno and Eriksen u don’t need two creative midfielders against city but a strong midfield to stop the attacks
@@Anonassassin Bruno needs to be bench until he learns that his Hail Mary passes are useless.
@@GGMU100 yeah, eriksen should’ve been taken off for Casemiro at half time.
Casemiro is a key player in Real Madrid and a reserve in Manchester United hhhhh . We told you that the problem is the coach. I hope that Ronaldo will leave this failed team and the failed coach.. ..
casamiro is more then big star then any1 in this squad.
Cashmiro is not bigger than Cr7 though....
The results against Liverpool and Arsenal went to his head. Even after getting dominated, he still didn’t change anything. Maybe he wanted to impress pep or show he could go toe to toe. A possible audition for the Mancity job when pep leaves 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ idk
I take Casemiro and Ronaldo at Chelsea 🔵
Casemiro yes Ronaldo no
If ETH wants to rebuild United then he should take lessons from Zidane the way he managed madrid in 2020-21 with a mix of young talents and veterans......he is just insulting Ronaldo and casemiro
Honestly, I thought that about their approach to real sociedad. They thought they were gonna walk in and win and they lost. United have to outwork every team they face and they didn’t do that. A little bit of complacency was evident.
2nd leg, Casemiro pocketed De Bruyne till the point he had to be subbed. He was close MOTM in CL final, he was MOTM in EU Super Cup... he kept Tchouameni benched in big games. I don't know what sort of club Man U is.
At that point City was already treating the game as a training session. They already take their foot of the pedal and just play to not get anyone injured.
The problem is the identity of the coach and the club are not connected but you got to realize whoever owns Manchester United don't know anything about football or identity of football
😂 Casemiro committed two red-worthy offenses, but he didn’t even get a yellow-he won’t get that protection in the EPL. A two-leg lunge from behind is at least a yellow for any player that doesn’t play for Real. But more importantly, KDB was just poor that game. That’s why Pep subbed him. If you knew anything about City, you’d know that he’s prone to having poor games here and there. He’s not as consistent as 4-5 years ago, probably due to injuries.
How could he bench tchouameni in big games when they played like 6 games at the club together that is such a stupid thing to say
@@armanvranka7520 he meant he would have. Ancelotti only starts players who have proved themselves
Starting Casemiro would have made zero difference. City outplayed United in every aspect if that match, those 3 goals in the second half was because City literally went from 5th to 2nd gear.
Casemiro played well against city in champions league, surprising that he was benched
Now casemiro would even think about staying short term in Man UTD if this happen 3 yrs in a row. He is the experienced player and had mat hed up against those plYers in city. I have a strong feeling they would find another midfielder and young center back. Then a striker
Craig is the worst pundit on TV, absolutely stealing a living. 2 weeks ago Craig praised Ten Hag for keeping in-form players into the starting 11. IIRC the direct quote from Craig was "If it doesn't matter what your name is, and if you're playing well he's still going to give you a chance, that's real management. Players remember that, they respect that." So Ten Hag does literally exactly this, it doesn't work, and now Craig can't wrap his head around the whole scenario. Again it's not just that he's wrong. Everyone gets it wrong, it's punditry. It's the fact that Craig's IQ is so limited..
His IQ is a shambles
Should be mentioning Bruno.
He’s been poor in these sort of matches. Spends most of the time throwing his arms in the air.
Spot on 👏
Big crybaby
You got 5 subs. It is allowed to make subs in the first half if things go wrong. Ten Hag should have made his first sub by the 20th minute and it should have been Casemiro and Fred and Ronaldo at half time. I know that Ronaldo has lost some pace but atleat he will keep the defenders distracted
I am beginning to think these coaches don't know how to coach a team like Man Utd because I expected ETH to benched either Antony or Sancho in order to buffer the midfield of Man Utd with Casemiro and later introduced any of those two if he had started Casemiro in the first half.
Did ETH watch any tape of Man City? Looked unprepared.
I think hewas testing mctominay ability vs one of the best teams in Europe as he was actually not bad in the past games but he was found out vs City. I assume casemiro will get the next start.
Rolling the dice against man city? Clueless Ten Hag
I pray he does
mctominay has been average ever since... ETH is an arrogant dutchman.. wouldnt listen to a german ( rangnick)..... when a player is average for a decade, there is a strong liklihood that he isnt going to make it at the elite level.. as someone said.. who is going to queue up and buy any united player from the top European clubs?....mctominay cant even make the scotland midfiled!!!
Kerry lies! Mctominay has been a starter for Scotland for a couple of years now. They just moved him to defences as it sits there team more. Scotland's team is not that good. I totally agree with you that he's just average😂. But he's young yet,there's room for improvement
anyway, for Casemiro, better to leave the club.
Ten Hag decisions was horrible.
That game was over in the first half 4-0.
Ten Hog should had played experience players like Casemiro and Ronaldo .
Why pay such huge wages if United wanted Ronaldo and casmeiro to be a bench warmer. Totally disrespectful from ten hag
The Man Utd I met who used to defeat Liverpool FC ( my team had sour and sweet memories) during Derby games. Chelsea of Mourinho used to suffer to win title against a great team built with academy and CR7 plus other fantastic players. Now they look average even winning against Liverpool and Arsenal didn't convince me. Against the current Manchester City team every opponent needs their best players to perform or get beaten. Plain and simple because Haaland is very good player 👏 so is City as a team ! Maybe Arsenal will challenge them can't see any other team capable of stopping them City boys winning another Premier league title. Waiting to see...
I don’t think casemiro was an ETH SIGNING pretty obvious this was a murtough
If you’re 4-0 down, and you have two great player on the bench, you bring them on to change the game. Mourinho brought in Shaun wright Phillips to score two goals and took him off after 20 mins. That’s how you get results by being ruthless.
Erik ten Hag is a very powerful and succesful football manager. Just give him more time to build professional AND competitive teamate
Ten Hag daring to say that isn't just an insult on Ronaldo, but also on Casemiro. Casemiro has an equally illistrious career as that of Ronaldo.
Yes certainly ETH wanted to prove a point to the Glazers that if you dont get what he wants, then things like yesterdays scoreline are destined to happen regardless of the calibre of player. He doesn't have to use Casemiro because he is a world class talent, the silence and disconnect between himself and the hierarchy is so loud with that decision. But lets be fair, Casemiro couldnt just suddenly sprung to life in that match City dominated thoroughout especially 1st half so idk how we at Utd would avoid such an impasse. Utd is still going through a rebuild especially with the owners so no expectations until major changes happen.
If they played any other formation and still lost , y’all were going to criticise . City were always going to dismantle them
Ten hag don't really fancy Casemiro,
I even thought he would start him but he didn't.
They should have played Casemiro from the start leaving out Sancho.Understand ETH didn't want to change a winning team but we were going against the possible best team in the world,reinforced by Haaland this season, so we needed more defensive midfielders than anything else. Hope he learns from this blunder and not to repeat.
Best Lineup for Utd against ManCity was. 4-2-3-1
Ronaldo/ Martial - ST
Rashford, Fernandes/Eriksen, Antony
Casemiro, Fred
Shaw, Varane, Lindelof, Dalot.
De Gea.
Welcome to the Premier League, Erik ten Hag. You certainly ain't in Amsterdam no mo'.
you are right. that is true.
i very like on 4:49 what he say.thay is true.
Everyone is a genius in hindsight. Ten Hag is the kind of manager who doesn’t change a winning team and I don’t rate Mctominay at all but he’s been apart of the winning run we’ve been on so what kind of message does it send to drop him when he’s been playing decent. I agree Casemiro should’ve started and I think now that the team has put in a bad performance, we’ll see changes next week against Everton. There’s obviously no comparison between Mctominay and Casemiro but give Ten Hag some slack. Pep has been with City for 6 years and has the best striker itw. Ten Hag is still getting a feel for all the players in his squad and a lot of these players won’t be here in 3-4 years.
I agree with ETH if he is sincere about Ronaldo. Ronaldo is not a good "fit" for a counter attacking team. If you play Ronaldo you have to press high and great chances for him to pounce on. Plus who wants to be a sub in a 6-0 trashing ? The game is gone at that piont
But why did ManU insisted on keeping Ronaldo, they should use just let him go if they're gonna sit him on the bench
@@marvin6605 kid, no one wanted Ronaldo lol
@@madtitan-bringerofgenocide stop lying. He had five offers and united did not want to make an agreement
@@theamazingm8110 He had 5 offers and if United didn't want to sell him then for wth his managers reached all clubs. Why Bayern tweeted twice ?? Why Perez video clip not going to sign him was out?? It's because all club rejected.
So...Ten Hag comes up against the old Lampard/Gerrard conundrum and chooses the wrong box. Bruno and Eriksen can't play in the same team. He's got Brazil's defensive 2 to put in front of the back 4 but chose to be stubborn. And Dalot is 3 years shy of being a good defender.
The problem is not 4231. The problem is the personnel. Mactominay and Casemiro should have played together.
ten hag won 4 games with this formation and line up including arsenal so it understandable why he played the same line up and didn't change anything, you don't change when something working. they would still criticize him anyway if he changed and played casamiro on why he changed a line up that won 4 games.
but I'm maybe wrong but if this game played before the international break Manchester untd would have played differently they lost the momentum they had before the break.
He should have started with Casemiro and Ronaldo against City.
All of the points raised are valid. But regardless, some of the players simply did not show up for work. Maybe it was the realization that this was a really big test and the hyped expectation that a renewed Man Utd was going to make a strong stand. Perhaps this combined with the atmosphere, the importance of the derby, was just too overwhelming. Deer caught in headlights. In this case, the headlights of a freight train.
Jules has been waiting for this opportunity to go in on T.H. Shaka is spot on but the selection should not warrant whether the players show effort are track back imo.
It's gonna be difficult to bench scott in that man utd squad,not because he's good.but he's an academy product and also a passion merchant and he's physical (jordan henderson type of player).
Should’ve benched Bruno and played fred and casemiro and eriksen
This is true
As a manager at work myself I think you’re insulting Casemiro and Ronaldo a bit with the principle of not letting them in to help their teammates and making it worse by making the public justification.
I’d would not be surprised if both did not go bananas on him after the match, it supposed to be no I on team and you supposed to never give up on winning until time is over.
Despite the 4 wins, this manager looks out of his depth and some of the decisions he's making are comical.....i hope he gets the sack soon!🤡
Be serious
you support liverpool right?
@@irvinjohnson7210 Have been a United fan since 15 yrs....
Man city working for a young Haaland so he could score goals for them But Man Utd doesnt wanna work for not so young (but the Best at finding the back of the net) Ronaldo, they want him to drop down and defend for them as well. Idk since when scoring goals became a curse in football that almost every team wants to press but 10 players cant press enough to provide a good ball to Ronaldo who 9/10 times would score. He even converts the half chances when on song.
These are being said by ex-players and pundits not the coach or club
Ten hag Lying about Ronaldo so no one can blame him
I always thought Eriksen was a pure attacking and creating minded midfielder. Wouldnt put him as a CDM ever.. especially against a possession side like City. Casemiro one of the best CDMs in the last 5 years...I don't know, makes you scratch your head.
Ten Hag still thinks he is competing in the Eredivisie.
Casemiro could’ve should’ve played and atleast would have provided basic protection for the back four in contrast to playing two CAMs in Eriksen & Fernandez.
If Ole, had managed this match maybe it would've made a difference🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ole's team defeated ManCity 2-0 back in March 2021. As a ManCity fan I could not see that happen because it ended our 20 games unbeaten run.
Now you can see that EtH is not that superb coach as many MU fans think. He didn't react in the first half and made changes to the team, he was paralyzed. Everybody can see that the midfield was overrun by MC.
I swear to God, with the exception of Jules, ESPN is like the Make a Wish Foundation for punditry. Shaka didn't even watch the match (first goal 18 min in?) Craig is directly contracting what he said last week almost word-for-word. The other guy has an IQ in the 70's...Poor Dan Thomas.
Craig's a shambles
Tenhag was only playing that 11 because of the 4 game winning streak. No tactics
I'm sure that ETH played McTominay and Eriksen because that's what's worked for him so far, and, to be fair, both of those players, especially McTominay, have been in unreal form (to be clear, Eriksen has played much better, but he's a better player overall, so we expect that from him and don't expect it from McTominay). I'm a United fan, and I'm glad this happened because it should show ETH that McTominay is simply nowhere good enough to start, ESPECIALLY in front of freaking Casemiro, no matter what his form is. I understand Casemiro has been a little off so far, but he also hasn't started consistently and with the same squad around him, so I'm hoping that this will be the beginning of the end of the McTominay experiment and will 1) see Casemiro starting from now on and 2) shock the board enough to realize that the squad needs another $250-300mil invested between now and next season for them to even have a chance to compete with the likes of City.
And with how United do their business €300 mil would only get them 3 mediocre players...
That’s if ETH doesn’t revert to McFred, which will be even more worrying.
Just like you I hope Casemiro gets a good chance, yes he’s been off but he’s still way better than Mctominay.
But people aren’t talking as much about Bruno, that man should either be put on a leash or benched, I don’t get why he’s always roaming upfront like a striker, he honestly is part of the cause our midfield struggles, the gap between him and the rest is just too huge. We effectively just have two midfielders, that’s not enough to control games, especially against teams that have been drilled with a set play style.
What works against lesser teams won't work against powerhouses like city, if that's what he though, hrs extremely naive. You need to have strategy for big games, not just put the same thing out there and hope it works
Exactly what happened with maguire,scott just played himself out of the team with the performance against city,
Mctominay has been better but unreal form? Wake up mate please!
Well said Shaka, I bet he'll change it now with what he experience against Mancity but why change a winning team we should understand
Shaka is spot on - this is Monday morning quaterbacking at it's finest. Does anyone really belive Casemiro would've changed anything yesterday? If indeed Casemiro had played, the topic on talk shows today would have been about how Casemiro is past his best or how Utd have turned yet another world class player into a dud. Stevie said it best yesterday - any team in epl would've been 4 nil down against that city performance!!!
The problem was neither McTominay nor Erikson but the 4 guys in front of them. Changing the mentality and application of Bruno, Sancho and Rashford without the ball will take time on the training pitch and better competition for playing time and maybe even replacing one or two players.
When Utd was beating Liverpool and Arsenal without Casemiro, I don't recall segment after segment questioning ETH's selection.
Lastly, as a Utd fan, I appreciated ETH sending the same players back out for the 2nd half. Don't reward laziness and lack of application by subbing players off in a game that's already lost. Send them back out there and as a new manager get to see who has the pride, mentality and attitude to be part of the project (or at least let them marinade in the embarrassment they created).
Eriksen and McTominay were terrible, couldn't string a pass together and got over-ran in midfield. If they were just going to sit back and try hitting on the counter then why not get Casemiro in to break up play or man mark KDB. Casemiro was brought on but ETH wouldn't bring Ronaldo on out of respect for his career. Casemiro has 5 Champions League winner medal, where is his respect? Malacia was taken off at half time for Shaw, just to play Foden onside for his hattrick. 🤷♂️
@@Bdbtg28691 the reason they got overrun is because the 4 guys ahead of them didn't do much to slow down City's build up. Casemiro wouldn't have changed anything yesterday. Fans like to think they know better than the manager who is watching these guys in training day in and day out. There s a reason McTominay has been playing ahead of Casemiro and that selection decision was vindicated by 4 straight wins
This is also down to players
Not ONLY should ETH play Casemiro & CR7,he should START them, especially in big games...!When they don't perform,THEN he can substitute them!!How hard can that be??
What similarly he's talking about?
Shocking that we’ve had cas on the bench for nearly every game
This shambolic defeat is down to the manager not making the necessary changes. Leaving out experienced players Ronaldo Casemiro and Shaw on the bench against City is ridiculous! Juls was right in saying ten Hag was cocky and stupid.
If Ten Hag is not careful, he is gonna create problem for himself. Majority knew Casemiro should have started that match.
Exactly!!! scared to changed at 15-25 min of game time....waiting for half time and 60-70 min to change a players.
Mourinho would’ve changed it after 20mins. That said, he would’ve parked the bus against Man C.
a man playing in starting line up in Spain on the bench in England
Craig and Jules, absolutely right, ETH completely F**ked it up. Well said guys.
Shaka is spot on, he should have bought casemero on when we went 1.0 down. He got it wrong tactically as a coach, believe in Ten Hag, he needs to learn from this embarrassing mistake.
Ten Hag had no reason to change a winning side. The problem is he set the team up wrong. You're either counter attack or pressing from the front. The players didn't have the confidence to press. You can't introduce a new concept in such a big match. Ten Hag should have made the adjustments early. So yes its on him but not from a personnel point. The best outcome of the result is that casemiro should now get more game time.
Spot on about ETH how on earth did he think that line up and shape would ever be ok.
Casemiro played a huge role in Real Madrid’s victory 2nd leg victory against Man City and made many defensive clearances. It’s a comical blunder that Ten Hag isn’t playing Casemiro.
The man thought he is still in the Eredivisie.
Ericsson was horrendous defensively. Wish we had targeted him more last game.
Ten took no blame but threw players under bus he was steering. I was impressed with him but could lose the players with his attitude.
McTom had played well so wanted to keep loyal. But Fernández and Ericsson? Both? Really.
He's absolutely right. Ten Hag wanted Antony, Martinez, Eriksen; they all start right away every single game.
If Ten Hag had gotten Frenkie De Jong, he starts the second he gets off the plane in Manchester. No worry about fitness, nothing. He starts right away.
They said Pep always overthinks....
ten hag : hold my beer.......
Lisandro Martinez went straight into the team. Whether Casemiro was wanted or not, he clearly wasn't as wanted as other player ten Hag asked for.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. There is a reason why some are only fit to be talking from behind a screen and not from a training ground.
Be serious. Anyone with a decent football brain could've told you that that United midfield was going to be destroyed by City pre kickoff
The journey is still far. I like the way he retain same players at first half. Imagine one of those players taken out at first half for no reason. It will be more catastrophic in future. Casemiro was very likely to get yellow or red card in that game. The scenario was too early for the coach and he can't just do anything about it until it's second half. So I concur with Shaka.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing
He respects Casemiro too much to play him. Fight me.
Yeah dude and Zidane was also showing maximum respect to Bale few years back. Very respectful 👏
I was really surprised after the Purchase because casimiro is not a regista.
you can't blame Ten Hag for going with this line up whenever he strung all the wins together with that squad... before this line up Manchester United wasn't winning... Starting this 11 was just him going with the momentum from the previous fixtures... He was going to stay with that lineup until they got a loss... This had nothing to do with Renaldo or Casemiro, Ten Hag went with momentum... if he did change the lineup and then they lost then everyone would have questioned him like "why would he change a lineup whenever they were winning?" 🤷🏾♂️
I feel like McTominay and Casemiro would play well together. Just bench Bruno and put Eriksen in his spot if you want to play him so bad. You can bring Bruno in later, 5 subs this year ffs.