I've never seen a crash that was shorter... Crashes tend to slide along the ground. Hell, nose dive 90' vertical and hit the ground square on and the debris will still fly further than 10ft 6". Dude could have landed that on my house roof. With room to spare and possibly turn around. Well, if it wasn't for the slope of the roof.
Regarding one person's comment that setting records should require landings in both directions for an average: Taking off or landing with the wind is a scary proposition. Tried it once and that was more than enough for me. Your suggestion is against every protocol of flying. No one would participate. Your logic is sound about variables in keeping records. But pilots get it, trust me, few pilots can "spot" land an airplane, much less stopping in 10 feet. To build, own and fly airplanes like these is a dream for most pilots. Appreciate the fact that a very small percentage of pilots are licensed to fly taildraggers in the first place. Most pilots have no idea how to fly these airplanes. I have seen commercial pilots try to fly my J3 Cub and completely lose control as soon as the take off roll begins. Much more dangerous for the beginner on landing. I was fortunate and blessed to buy a J3 Cub before I could fly. Took my lessons in it, soloed it and flew it and many other taildraggers for many happy hours. I have owned 11 taildragger airplanes including many Cubs, and even with my experience I groundlooped a hot Luscombe one time. After that even one of my flying buddies that owned a Pitt's Special would not fly my repaired Luscombe. To this day certain taildraggers intimidate me. One of the best benefits of these super STOL (short take off & landing) airplanes is that they get off and land so short you do not have to keep them straight very long. I flew one once and it was so easy and a real blast to fly! Wish I could fly this record setting airplane.
WOW ! If you ignore the white line for the zero point to start the measurement for this landing and just count where the wheels actually touched the ground it looks more like an AMAZING 8 foot landing ! ! If this man will sell retrofit-able wings to all super cubs what an amazing upgrade these wings would be on any older cub . Keep up the good work.
The Frank Knapp Lil'Cub and the Silver Zlin Outback are Covered in Oratex6000 by BetterAircraftFabric. There were 6 Oratex covered planes in Valdez 2017, but not all of them took part in the competitions. Regards from Alaska.
Probably better than any RC aircraft could do even with all the advantages in power to weight/ lift models can have. A modeler can never have that feel and exact controll from feedback. Awesome landing.
I built a customized Carl Goldberg Senior Falcon that weighed 7 pounds and had a MDS .78 glow engine in it that would take off in its own length on a totally calm day, it could land within one half of its length. Any picnic table was an airfield, I had to sell it unfortunately. Came in to land at a 35 degree angle and stopped instantly. Never shortchange models, 3D models can hover into a landing.
20% of comments: "The competition should be held indoors so the headwinds don't affect the results" 10% of comments: "That's some crazy piloting skills!" 70% of comments: "The news lady is hot"
I wouldn't call her hot. I mean, she has a nice figure and all but you'd definitely want to smash her from behind with her face in a pillow so you can pretend she's a model.
That is remarkable I have NO idea of the planes payload capacity but STOL technology is every bit as important as the fastest, biggest, farthest and can be used for OH such more every day use of general transportation, supply and air ambulance uses, in tight places. That video was great to see.
@@vojtasTS29 they can actually go backwards relatively to the ground as their stoll speed (as in their tech spec sheet) is 50km/h or about 27kn and considering this has to be airspeed... but you can't land them beasts this short
So essentially he landed in a parking space. Damn, that's seriously impressive. As was the fact he lifted the tail of the plane before he even let off the brakes.
If you want to know about STOL -> Do the research on STOL landings in Laos (1967 -74) by the U.S military . They landed on hilltops / 70 yards long while under machine gun fire .
Just beautiful & interesting to watch. For a more practical record, I would like to see a fully loaded & kitted out bush plane attempt to do the some thing. The 10 foot, 5 inches, landing is a VERY IMPRESSIVE concept record, BUT, I would like to see how these planes would operate when they are fully fueled, loaded, & carrying 2 passengers. Thoughts?
SillyPuddy2012 - That's what I thought too. But I think they count from the moment any wheel touches the ground, and you see that tiny black wheel touched the ground before the main gear. I think that's how they got 10ft.
I would be curious to know what the wind speed was that day. Also, is the landing length measured from the line? Or the point of touchdown? Because if it’s measured from the point of touchdown, it is way less than 10 feet. The tires made one full complete rotation after touchdown. On a 26 inch tire, that would be 6.8 feet of roll, on a 29 inch tire it would be 7 1/2 feet of roll.
In order to get a realistic number they should land in both directions and average the numbers to calculate the wind out. If just the head wind was great enough you could even land the thing backwards.
I've flown my paraglider backwards loads of times, just take off the speed bar and let her drift.....and I've taken off up hill and backwards too.....not so fun , but I survived !
Taking off with the wind not a big deal, just a longer roll. Landing with the wind DANGEROUS, as you ground speed increases with speed of the wind speed.
rlinton2ut, Yes, if you are talking about tailwind :D ... planes prefer headwind for land and takeoff, more headwind, less groundspeed. If you have a 30mph headwind and 40mph airspeed your plane is travelling only 10mph in relation to the ground (Ground speed).
Taking off or landing with the wind is a scary proposition. Tried it once and that was more than enough for me. Your suggestion is against every protocol of flying. No one would participate. Your logic is sound about variables in keeping records. But pilots get it and trust me, few pilots can "spot" land an airplane, much less in less than 11 feet. To build, own and fly airplanes like these is a dream for most pilots. Appreciate the fact that a very small percentage of pilots are licensed to fly taildraggers. I was fortunate and blessed to buy a J3 Cub before I could fly. Took my lessons in it, soloed it and flew it and many other taildraggers for many happy hours.
Dixon The STOL is the most impressive plane i've ever seen, i have an ultralight with small power and big wings, almost a glider, long runway for take off and landings.
I flew in an old 1940's Taylorcraft with no adjustable flaps and it took some work for the pilot to land due to the large wing area. Heck of fun back then. Stall speed was about 40 or 45 mph. Gauges were altimeter, 2 Minute ball, air speed indicator, tachometer.
alaskanalain Yes I do. Vortex Generators can prevent air from staying on the wings for too long and they are great for increasing lift. I would suggest that you place a decent number of the vortex generators on each wing(depending on the area of the wing) and not too far away from the fuselage. Make sure you place them in a straight line
Dixon Aeronatical Engineer. And play Video Games. Either Grow Up. OR WELCOME TO MY WORLD ☺ I've worked on Ospreys, and thought this was the Shit. Aerodynamics at their Best !!!
Under an ideal (lucky) approach? Frank Knapp could have landed it a foot shorter. Maybe Helium filled bladders within the frame, inside the fuselage, in the tires and wings?
What on earth are they measuring 10ft 5in from?? From the tail wheel touchdown to a complete stop was about 5 feet. 6 at best. And from the white line to the front tires at complete stop is only about 6 feet as well.
What was the wind speed and trim speed of the stol plane? If you get this two values equal plane will land straight down like heli with right person in it.
My only issue is that a good headwind would basically make you look like you're hovering. If they waited for the right conditions...they could take off and land in the same spot.
180 hp and such a high angle of attack makes the plane. The extra power and main wing scoops the thrust down like 20 degrees on take off and landing. Put a TS 100 turbine in it and it would have more power and half the engine weight. JS100 is cheap (for a turbine) only about double the price of the Lycoming. lol
That landing wasn't 10 feet 5 inches, they should measure it from the first wheel to touch the ground to where that wheel is when it is stationary, the plane only moved on the ground for about 3 feet at most between first contact and then stopping.
Why don't they use winglets ? At low speed, the inducted resistance and the turbulence at the end of the wings is maximum and winglets would increase efficiency a lot . This could be useful in order to obtain more stability at very low speed an to decrease the speed a bit more.
Pretty cool, I've seen shorter landings, but they are called crashes!
A perfect landing when the plane isn't one-time-use
Dan Boren lmao.
Benjamin P if everyone else dies during the crash landing except for the pilot. Is it stills good landing.
john hern
Cn
I've never seen a crash that was shorter... Crashes tend to slide along the ground. Hell, nose dive 90' vertical and hit the ground square on and the debris will still fly further than 10ft 6". Dude could have landed that on my house roof. With room to spare and possibly turn around. Well, if it wasn't for the slope of the roof.
Regarding one person's comment that setting records should require landings in both directions for an average: Taking off or landing with the wind is a scary proposition. Tried it once and that was more than enough for me. Your suggestion is against every protocol of flying. No one would participate. Your logic is sound about variables in keeping records. But pilots get it, trust me, few pilots can "spot" land an airplane, much less stopping in 10 feet. To build, own and fly airplanes like these is a dream for most pilots. Appreciate the fact that a very small percentage of pilots are licensed to fly taildraggers in the first place. Most pilots have no idea how to fly these airplanes. I have seen commercial pilots try to fly my J3 Cub and completely lose control as soon as the take off roll begins. Much more dangerous for the beginner on landing. I was fortunate and blessed to buy a J3 Cub before I could fly. Took my lessons in it, soloed it and flew it and many other taildraggers for many happy hours. I have owned 11 taildragger airplanes including many Cubs, and even with my experience I groundlooped a hot Luscombe one time. After that even one of my flying buddies that owned a Pitt's Special would not fly my repaired Luscombe. To this day certain taildraggers intimidate me. One of the best benefits of these super STOL (short take off & landing) airplanes is that they get off and land so short you do not have to keep them straight very long. I flew one once and it was so easy and a real blast to fly! Wish I could fly this record setting airplane.
haha
Totally Awesome an 800 lb. 1939 J3Cub with O-320(180) hp/ Frank Knapp can show us how it is done 🏁
When you have to land a plane but you only see a helicopter pad
WOW ! If you ignore the white line for the zero point to start the measurement for this landing and just count where the wheels actually touched the ground it looks more like an AMAZING 8 foot landing ! !
If this man will sell retrofit-able wings to all super cubs what an amazing upgrade these wings would be on any older cub .
Keep up the good work.
That little yellow plane is **amazing!**
Its Joe! Best fresh Alaskan Salmon Oshkosh BBQ award of 2016! It was nice meeting and hanging out with you guys last year.
steveo1kinevo you're welcome Joe, are you coming next year.
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The Frank Knapp Lil'Cub and the Silver Zlin Outback are Covered in Oratex6000 by BetterAircraftFabric. There were 6 Oratex covered planes in Valdez 2017, but not all of them took part in the competitions. Regards from Alaska.
These guys never cease to amaze me.
Probably better than any RC aircraft could do even with all the advantages in power to weight/ lift models can have. A modeler can never have that feel and exact controll from feedback. Awesome landing.
I built a customized Carl Goldberg Senior Falcon that weighed 7 pounds and had a MDS .78 glow engine in it that would take off in its own length on a totally calm day, it could land within one half of its length. Any picnic table was an airfield, I had to sell it unfortunately. Came in to land at a 35 degree angle and stopped instantly. Never shortchange models, 3D models can hover into a landing.
So, it's a forward facing helicopter. Amazing! Love it!
20% of comments: "The competition should be held indoors so the headwinds don't affect the results"
10% of comments: "That's some crazy piloting skills!"
70% of comments: "The news lady is hot"
Id check er oil level with my dipstick.
I wouldn't call her hot. I mean, she has a nice figure and all but you'd definitely want to smash her from behind with her face in a pillow so you can pretend she's a model.
Bloody awesome! Even our local microlights can't beat that!
just land that in the driveway
David Chen Yeah, who needs a runway? Looks like it could easily clear a 50ft obstacle before you'd cross the road.
@@benjaminrapp7418 Can you imagine the infiltration they could have got in ww2 with this?
This is the first time I've seen of heard of this short landing and short take off. Amazing.
That is remarkable I have NO idea of the planes payload capacity but STOL technology is every bit as important as the fastest, biggest, farthest and can be used for OH such more every day use of general transportation, supply and air ambulance uses, in tight places. That video was great to see.
How beautiful it is to see these pilots and their planes landing congratulations
They are some badass pilots makes me want to get and start learning to fly my own airplane!
Most impressive flying...
AMENNN !!! ! !!!
with enough head wind it could land going backwards
I've seen an An-2 go backwards. They're huge but they're like cubs and it looks so amazing.
I suppose with big enough flaps it could well do that.
@@vojtasTS29 they can actually go backwards relatively to the ground as their stoll speed (as in their tech spec sheet) is 50km/h or about 27kn and considering this has to be airspeed... but you can't land them beasts this short
Хоть и не понимаешь ни чего! А всё же интересно! На желтеньком авиаджипе просто молодец, прямо в точку и посадка и взлет. Респект и уважуха!
Excellent film footage and sound. Commentary was pretty accurate.
True to this day....Tail Draggers rock👍🏻 They always have, and they always will (Super Cub N4070Z) from years gone by.
THAT was beautiful. STOL. Fly ANYWHERE!!!
That "Yellow Jacket" landed like a helicopter !!!
The take off is almost instantanleous,bravo!
So essentially he landed in a parking space. Damn, that's seriously impressive. As was the fact he lifted the tail of the plane before he even let off the brakes.
I knew an FAA examiner that if I could've made a 10'5" landing he'd say "I asked for 10 feet, not 10'5"!!!" :/
I would watch the news more if we had an announcer like that. That plane was awesome.
That looks like lots of fun. Love to fly one of those in Alaska.
Лихие парни!👍Очевидное-невероятное.
Incredible. I wonder what the head winds were at the time of that landing.
Виртуозы, ассы! Привет из Кавказа!
But really it only took a couple of feet from first contact of front wheels to stopped position. That is just insane!
2:15 is what I call MAGIC!
10 feet 5 inches! Fantastic!
Восхищению нет предела, самолёт идеален,а пилоту на жёлтом вообще респект и уважуха,ас пилотирования
The news reference to the O-320 180hp engine is incorrect, its a C-85 stroked out with a O-200 crank.
Frank Knapp, you're a Champion, Unbelievable!
Я в легком шоке!!! Такого еще не видел!!! Вот где боги авиации, оказывается )))))
If you spring load the landing gear it could use the absorbed energy from landing to fling the aircraft back up on take off.
If you want to know about STOL -> Do the research on STOL landings in Laos (1967 -74) by the U.S military . They landed on hilltops / 70 yards long while under machine gun fire .
Just beautiful & interesting to watch. For a more practical record, I would like to see a fully loaded & kitted out bush plane attempt to do the some thing. The 10 foot, 5 inches, landing is a VERY IMPRESSIVE concept record, BUT, I would like to see how these planes would operate when they are fully fueled, loaded, & carrying 2 passengers. Thoughts?
I'm absolutely amazed , its stunning 👍🙂😲, it makes mans ability to fly -CHILDS PLAY , WOW!!
Those guys doing the counting are slow in the head. That modified Cub clearly took off and landed inside of three feet.
look again
Rondo Schiavoni - I already watched it, sure wasn't anything close to the length of the plane.
SillyPuddy2012 - That's what I thought too. But I think they count from the moment any wheel touches the ground, and you see that tiny black wheel touched the ground before the main gear. I think that's how they got 10ft.
And your eye is more accurate than they who are on-site? What scale does one have? On my tablet it was 2.5 inches
SillyPuddy2012
I think the organizers said it was a paired combination of t/o and landing
I like that they think STOL is such a well known acronym that there was no need to say what it stood for.
There's no substitute for horse power, MAN and MACHINE become ONE ! Bush Pilots ROCK,
I would be curious to know what the wind speed was that day. Also, is the landing length measured from the line? Or the point of touchdown? Because if it’s measured from the point of touchdown, it is way less than 10 feet. The tires made one full complete rotation after touchdown. On a 26 inch tire, that would be 6.8 feet of roll, on a 29 inch tire it would be 7 1/2 feet of roll.
I am amazed by that aircraft! I’m an Australian farmer and I want one. Davox.
I'ts aesthetically pleasing to look at.
Did he say 10 feet five inches or was my pornhub tab still open?
Both
Kyle Wit iiBoys
Kyle Wit Did he say "stall competition"?
J Shepard STOL
joblessalex I know. But "stall" seems kind of appropriate here too.
Absolutely outstanding!
In order to get a realistic number they should land in both directions and average the numbers to calculate the wind out.
If just the head wind was great enough you could even land the thing backwards.
I've flown my paraglider backwards loads of times, just take off the speed bar and let her drift.....and I've taken off up hill and backwards too.....not so fun , but I survived !
It's fantastic. Never seen other
Tail draggers sounds like what my dog used to do when his glands needed emptying
I use to join these competitions and pilot these kinds of aircrafts. I stopped after attempting a very low speed landing and stalling into a crash.
Headwinds add to much of a variable to be a true record. A record should use: take offs and landings in opposite directions then average the distance.
or do it indoors. Like in a football stadium. Not sure how safe that would be though
Ross Swenson
Bring a gun.....Thats what it would take to make one of these pilots land or takeoff with the wind. .... Serious safety problems.
Taking off with the wind not a big deal, just a longer roll. Landing with the wind DANGEROUS, as you ground speed increases with speed of the wind speed.
rlinton2ut, Yes, if you are talking about tailwind :D ... planes prefer headwind for land and takeoff, more headwind, less groundspeed. If you have a 30mph headwind and 40mph airspeed your plane is travelling only 10mph in relation to the ground (Ground speed).
Taking off or landing with the wind is a scary proposition. Tried it once and that was more than enough for me. Your suggestion is against every protocol of flying. No one would participate. Your logic is sound about variables in keeping records. But pilots get it and trust me, few pilots can "spot" land an airplane, much less in less than 11 feet. To build, own and fly airplanes like these is a dream for most pilots. Appreciate the fact that a very small percentage of pilots are licensed to fly taildraggers. I was fortunate and blessed to buy a J3 Cub before I could fly. Took my lessons in it, soloed it and flew it and many other taildraggers for many happy hours.
That is just crazy- cool, re: the 10&1/2 ft. landing. The engine must also use a hugely variable- pitch propeller...is that part of the uniqueness?
I'm an Aeronautical Engineer and that was fucken awesome😎
Dixon The STOL is the most impressive plane i've ever seen, i have an ultralight with small power and big wings, almost a glider, long runway for take off and landings.
I flew in an old 1940's Taylorcraft with no adjustable flaps and it took some work for the pilot to land due to the large wing area. Heck of fun back then. Stall speed was about 40 or 45 mph. Gauges were altimeter, 2 Minute ball, air speed indicator, tachometer.
Dixon, do you have any advice on vortex generator placement for me? For a Kitfox lite
alaskanalain Yes I do. Vortex Generators can prevent air from staying on the wings for too long and they are great for increasing lift. I would suggest that you place a decent number of the vortex generators on each wing(depending on the area of the wing) and not too far away from the fuselage. Make sure you place them in a straight line
Dixon
Aeronatical Engineer.
And play Video Games.
Either Grow Up.
OR WELCOME TO MY WORLD ☺
I've worked on Ospreys, and thought this was the Shit.
Aerodynamics at their Best !!!
Wow! I want that plane. Imagine if you were only doing 10 knots on landing. Not much to worry about there. And what, 20 feet to take off? Amazing
Under an ideal (lucky) approach? Frank Knapp could have landed it a foot shorter. Maybe Helium filled bladders within the frame, inside the fuselage, in the tires and wings?
Wonderful brunette news anchor. Some nice flying too.
yes hes very sexy
i think the piper cub is the best looking aircraft in the world . and its all abount hands on stick flying and good fun
Love it! I would love to fly it.
im totally shocked by yellow!!! its a...thats it. im in love of this kinda grandsons of the "storch"!
Весь облегчённый самолёт у чемпиона, - всё, что было можно он снял, обнажил скелет.
(31.08.2017)
Естественно, самолёты готовили к рекорду. Результат впечатляет.
In fairness the orange machine isn't much more than a micro light.
Looks like 3 to 4 feet to me ...
How do they measure
Ali Anser From first contact to full stop. Really it was only 3 feet but the tail wheel contacted first so it was the length of the aircraft.
Speciality airplane. Fun but the real world conversions that actually carry a load are more impressive to me.
shortest landing on land vary cool. these guys could land on a aircraft carrier in 0 feet. we did it in the 60s with prob jobs. this is fun to watch.
What on earth are they measuring 10ft 5in from?? From the tail wheel touchdown to a complete stop was about 5 feet. 6 at best. And from the white line to the front tires at complete stop is only about 6 feet as well.
De király! A kertből kifutópályát csinálhatnék
No mention here these are pretty cool planes.
What was the wind speed and trim speed of the stol plane? If you get this two values equal plane will land straight down like heli with right person in it.
My only issue is that a good headwind would basically make you look like you're hovering. If they waited for the right conditions...they could take off and land in the same spot.
teamhex not much of an issue then, unless you need to settle wars with it. I'd call it a bonus 😂
WOW she said 100s and 100s of taildraggers 💜
Verry fine landings
I do not understand what kind of aircraft brand it is? Name? Model?
So what’s this in comprehensible metric please...?
And how fast is this plane, what’s its range?
Wonder if it counts as a micro light plane.
Is that considered an airplane or an ultra-light?
180 hp and such a high angle of attack makes the plane. The extra power and main wing scoops the thrust down like 20 degrees on take off and landing. Put a TS 100 turbine in it and it would have more power and half the engine weight. JS100 is cheap (for a turbine) only about double the price of the Lycoming. lol
That landing wasn't 10 feet 5 inches, they should measure it from the first wheel to touch the ground to where that wheel is when it is stationary, the plane only moved on the ground for about 3 feet at most between first contact and then stopping.
Amazing airplane. I wonder how much doest cost?
mark r flying wild Alaska neat vid it gets better and better
6.944 cubits if anyone is wondering :)
I see you are a man of culture as well.
Like the imperial/standard system wasnt old enough...
Fantastic.....
Why don't they use winglets ? At low speed, the inducted resistance and the turbulence at the end of the wings is maximum and winglets would increase efficiency a lot . This could be useful in order to obtain more stability at very low speed an to decrease the speed a bit more.
They need ideal weasure 4 such take-ofs and landings, but still I like them.
Is it a STOL competition or a stall competition ?
One thing that is at least as interesting as fast planes: slow planes.
Imagine you could takeoff from your street and land on your backyard.
Love this stuff....
pretty soon we'll be seeing a landing roll in the negative numbers!
Using the tail wheel as a stopper and spring board is impressive but maybe a little bit cheaty :-)
Вот , что должно быть в Якутии в каждой деревне.
На такие самолөтики можно ставить лыжи и гидрошасси☝️
Mcdonald's could open the worlds first fly through restaurant.
IF THERE IS MORE HEAD WIND
WONT TAKE OFF AND LANDINGS BE SHORTER? EVEN MORE HEAD WIND MIGHT EVEN LAND WITH REVERSE MOTION?
Does the landing gear have brakes?
Как Здорово ... А Фрэнк ваще - Супер!
please...explain to me how was this measured...it appears to be way way less than 10 feet.
Who is the anchor lady . good video