Alien: Uncut - Extended Cocoon Sequence
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- Part of my fan edit Alien: Uncut. Find my thread on originaltrilogy.com to learn more!
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Such a horrifying and nightmarish scene. Tom Skerrit did a good job of acting "half-digested", where his body would be partially gelled already, probably barely having any awareness, and just enough lung tissue enough to form wheezing, painful words and apparently be dying slowly and painfully.
I was actually wondering what was happening to him that made him beg for death. You explained it perfectly. I thought that he was merely cocooned- not slowly being digested.
@@luthermcgee7297 they were being egg morphed my the alien into face huggers
@@ghillieman1829 , wow. Something the size of a man being reduced to the size of a facehugger . Well, with the help of molecular acid, and piggybacking human DNA, it wouldn't be a problem. Thanks!
No, he was to be a host for the new face hugger that was being formed inside Brett's body. The Alien released a spore that grows into a face hugger as it feasts off of a dead body.
Least that's where they were headed with this.
The idea (which later expands) .. is that the Alien can create a new face hugger this way.. when it is alone.
After a 2nd alien is created by this method.. (from Brett.. then jumps to Dallas to create another alien the same was as Kane)... the first alien or.. eldest.. begins to morph into a queen.
Which then lays eggs while the newer Aliens go get more hosts...
Btw.. it is interesting...
The Face huggers are BOTH sexes.. male and female.
The slit resembles a vagina.. and from inside that comes a penis ... how freaky is that?
A penis that comes OUT of a vagina (when on a host's face) to go inside (rape) and create a womb... depost the egg and the sperm on the egg.
Incredibly... the Alien that comes out of the host.. is SEX-LESS. It is neither male or female at all. It has no sexual organs.
So a dual sex creature creates a sex-less creature...
Which in turn.. has the ability to create (using spores from those things on its back)... another dual sex creature.
First film to ever feature a dual sex character and also a sexless one
@@d0nKsTaH love this great !!!!!
This scene explains why in Ripley's dream sequence from the sequel she said "Kill Me" cos she recalled hearing it from Dallas.
I doubt it. Wouldn't you want to have someone mercifully end your life before you experience the most agonising death imaginable? I think Kane would have agreed...
I think anyone would be freaked out in that situation lol.
It's more likely that she said that, not because Dallas said it - but simply because, like Dallas, she understood what was happening to her. The personal situation, drives the personal response - but that particular situation allows very limited responses: which means the personal responses can be similar or exactly the same - but that doesn't mean they actually have to rely on each other. It just so happens, that is a certain type of situation where completely different people can, independently, be left with only the same one, miserable, thing to say.
Not really, since the scene didn't make it to the movie then it does count, perhaps they used it as inspiration though.
@Marc T In this they were being digested, in Aliens they're being used as hosts for the embryos.
"Eggmorphing" is a process by which Xenomorphs are capable of transforming non-Xenomorph organic material into a viable Egg. It is in essence an alternate means of reproduction that does not require the presence of an Egg-laying Queen. The concept originates from a deleted scene in Alien, and despite the fact all reference to it was removed from the theatrical release of the film, Eggmorphing has gone on to be a noteworthy aspect of the Alien franchise.
No, it literally isnt. Do some research...... like ANY
DEADSCHOOLED You're the only one here that should do research. That's a cut idea and it's not part of the franchise anymore and it was replaced by the queen. So shut that ass.
@@SirKolass Personally I like this more than the queen lol
@@viz4884 i hate this one. The queen is less disgusting nightmare. Why did i have to watch this and get fascinated
I think that's just to justify this scene, here the whole concept of a queen didn't exist, that came later, so probably this was the original concept for xenomorph reproduction since we can see what appears to be eggs.
This amazing scene should have been in the final version of Alien. It was creepy as hell. That Ripley's face expression was just WOW. Great acting from Sigi!
irina1296 I think the acting overall was better in the the first series (Alien) than in the second one, although 1986 Aliens was obviously a lot more action-packed. Both movies are equally great.
Problem is it breaks pacing
@@thesmilingman7576 This... It needed to happened before the Self-destruct.
Good stuff. The soldier was converting Brett and Dallas into eggs. Probably face huggers that would have become queens.
Ash: "Perfect organism. A survivor..."
well that is a drone alien my good friend
the original idea was to turn someone into an egg, their size would shrink and mutate to become the egg and the parasite. essentially there was no Alien Queen and there wasn't supposed to be one until Cameron added it in Aliens
siegeh25
Yeah but this could be possible if you think about the Kenner series of action figures and Alien 3. In Alien 3, Ripley gets a facehugger on her during hypersleep. That facehugger is called a royal facehugger. It's basically already a Queen and doesn't have to go through the molting process. And in the toy line, there is a queen facehugger
@James Barnes
Alien 3 had a long and troubled design but it was responsible for the specific _Queen/Royal Facehugger_ variation, which has later been dubbed the _Praetorian Facehugger_. And if we look towards general Alien sidestories and the likes, we find that in the absence of a Queen, any Alien can morph into a Queen for the survival of the hive. Aside from that, there's a theory regarding _Royal Jelly_ and Queen Morphing.
@Seigeh25
The eggs doesn't shrink. Look at their size already - *They're huge*.
Sit on the floor, or your bed. Knees up, heels close to your butt, arms around your legs, head between your leg.
You're now the size of an Alien egg.
Some guy came up with an interesting theory (admittedly to do with Ridley Scotts Prometheus) about the aliens reproductive methods and how they seem to respond to DNA and reproductive tissue.... so maybe only females (like Ripley) can give birth Queens, where as human males can only birth soldiers.
Sigourney weaver really shines in this scene discovering the hive with Dallas and Brett in it being used as hosts/eggs for more aliens to come. Seeing her so desperate to get her friends out of the hive, even though it's already too late now that the alien is already planted inside of them. I wish she won an Oscar for this movie too next to Aliens.
They should have never cut out this scene.
+psychodelicrock12 But Imagine how different Aliens would be!
+cinemasaur It actually may not have been that different. They could have just stated that if there is no Queen present then a Drone Alien can create eggs and that whenever a Facehugger attached itself to someone the Chestburster that came out of that Host could be a Queen. At least that's how I have always thought of how it would work.
psychodelicrock12 or liken the game ago where #6 become the new queen
They cut it out because of time of the time constraints of the film and they said it broke the rhythm of tension in the end.
With Covenant this gives a new vision of what aliens are and how David could produce some eggs
Earlier drafts of the script had Ash reveal that the Alien's life span was short and it would soon die and decompose. Resulting in in a huge haul breach and the depletion of the ship's oxygen supply. However the spores it had produced would survive decompression for later retrieval by the company.
Another earlier draft of the script I like was just before Ripley finally pulled the plug on Ash, Ash would ask had they considered the Alien might be intelligent and attempt communication. Ripley would then ask "Did you Ash?" To which he would respond "Now, now, let me keep some secrets."
georgeowain I don’t like the first idea because it wouldn’t be such a perfect organism.
Havel the Rock. The Xenomorphs weren’t supposed to be a perfect organism though. Ash was just insane. They were created as biological weapons. It makes sense that a biological weapon would be quick to die. The colonists wouldn’t want a planet full of monsters to subdue.
That's dumb though, is there anything on planet earth that can grow in size by several hours to "full grown"
I can imagine maybee some insects, but some biger animals hell nooooo
I was born 6'1 and ate my bodyweight within my first half an hour of oxygen. What are you on about
This is def a wild “theory”
The Alien's interior design motifs are unorthodox to say the least!
this whole scene with ripley descending the ladder and the alarm is so nerve-racking, never knew why they removed it from the theatrical cut, this is one of the best scenes in the movie imo
They should have kept this scene in.
Because of how the editing took place, and the momentum they had, it did really break it.
Had their not been klaxons, they could have put it in as she was going to set the self-destuct system to be active.
Based on what we are hearing id wager that this happens after she tries to deactivate the self-destruct, which means she only has five minutes. This scene, breaking frantic aside, would have had her go too far over that time to be believable.
Sadly, the problem that caused the removal of this started much earlier in the production process .
Slows down the pacing.
@@ExcentricDragona true shame, it's so horrific, and
It brings the xenomoroh reproductive cicle full circle.
It kills to create a egg, which forcifully impregnates a host, which it kills to be born, and keeps killing to create more the same way. It's simple, nasty and fucked up.
I respectfully disagree. It would’ve destroyed the pacing of the film. Plus, it takes away any urgency in abandoning the ship.
If it counts, this scene was technically in the novelization of alien.
I've heard many people say that this scenes invalidates "Aliens'" notion that they use a queen to spawn because here is just a drone soldier type and he's making cocoons in order to procreate but I don't see why the methods necessarily would be mutually exclusive.
Tommy TwoTacos I agree.
Tommy TwoTacos Exactly. It really doesn't because it can be explained away by the notion that it is a drone's instinctive duty, regardless of whether a queen is present to lay eggs.
Tommy TwoTacos i've heard that worker bees, in the absence of the queen's presence (like if it died), could spontaneously become/develop into a queen? maybe it's because the queen emits a kind of hormone that inhibits this development among other worker bees, but in its absence, a worker bee could transform into a queen to ensure the survival of the colony.
Gamma Male interesting point
Tommy TwoTacos these morons are okay with acid blood too and skullbashing seemingly sentient mouth alien? because an alien doesnt exhibt the same characteristics of life on earth it invalidates things? idiots lol laughably stupid idiots!
3:00 Ripley: “I’ll get you out! I will get you out and we will head straight to the shuttle!”
3:02 Dallas: “No”.
3:08 Ripley: “What can I do?”
3:10 Dallas: “Nothing”.
Sounds like he said, "kill me," again and then yells Ripley's name. Begging her to do it.
@@Lucasfan375Yeah, this sounds much more like it.
3:35 the other face...who does that belong to?
@@decimated550 The other face belongs to Brett
He said, "Kill me."
I love how ripley's facial expression of remorse turned into resolve.
I feel this scene should be included for several reasons. It explains a part of the alien's life cycle which is depicted throughout the film, answers the question of what happened to Dallas, and most importantly it is genuinely creepy. It maybe needed some editing, but this works for me and I miss it when I watch the theatrical cut.
It should be added before she started the self destruction sistem
Not all questions need to be answered.
I like the queen more
It is not and not canon. The queen makes the eggs, don’t be foolish.
The Xenomorph is such a terrifying species. Not just the animal itself, but the ENTIRE lifestyle itself. Everything from impregnating a human and bursting through the chest, to the process of slowly turning humans into Xeno eggs. There isn't a single movie monster, ever created, scarier than the Xenomorph.
This scene is probably the most powerful scene in the film. It clearly displays the horrific life cycle of the alien, and Ripley's character growing into the survivor. I get why Cameron introduced the queen in Aliens, and I completely understand that fans love it... But the egg morph is just so much more bizarre, unrelatable, and completely disturbing. I think the focus on the life cycle in future films should be the egg morph, and the queen should be abandoned or her egg laying should be revisited and reinvisioned into something much more alien and disturbing... This scene should have been part of the original film. Watching it, then thinking of the eggs in the derelict opens up all kinds of places for the imagination to go about how all of those eggs got there. Without it, it's easy to see why Cameron went the direction that he did to.
The egg morph and Queen both work. If a single drone is alone, it finds a host and turns then into an egg. Once the facehugger from that egg impregnates another host, that first drone then morphs into a queen, when then goes on to create another hive. It explains why the Xenomorph is such a successful species and so hard to kill.
@@danieldevito6380 Everything could work if you try hard enough.
This scene was probably removed for pacing purposes, as it cuts into the thrilling escape from the ticking time bomb that is the Nostormo.
@@danieldevito6380 Exactly! Thank you!
@@danieldevito6380 agreed. Fans debate over one option vs the other and why not both? They don't have to contradict each other, especially as the egg here is cocooned onto the wall while the eggs in the alien spaceship were laid out on the floor, as if the queen had done it.
If the Xenomorph is the "perfect" species, then why not have both options available? If there's a whole group of Xenomorphs, they could have (or create) a Queen among them to work more efficiently as a colony/hive, with the Queen laying eggs and building her army.
Contrarily, if it's just one of them, they could reproduce via this method, an initially much slower method, but still works.
The sound effects and lighting heightens everything in this disturbing scene. Poor Ripley, the lone survivor having to do the unthinkable to her workmates but knows she must to honor them is powerful. Then to get outta there fast to escape the impending explosion of the ship. Sig is brilliant here too.
Now this is horror, very dark, to be honest, seeing Brett makes me feel chills down on my spine. I love the theory of the Alien trying to ensure the survival of the species making some eggmorph on Brett, but we have to remember that the idea of the Queen wasn't at that moment. But the concept of the Queen is not necessarily denying this horrific but awesome reproductive method.
Some lower animals and bugs reproduce via cloning, or asexually. This is all based on Nature.
Exactly! Nothing in this scene is necessarily negated by the events in _Aliens_
That's not Brett, that's Dallas
@@ruan9215 There are two people cocooned, one is Dallas, who is still conscious and Brett who is dead and slowly morphing into something.
I saw some concept art Giger did for his version of a 'queen'. It was a snake-like alien. Almost entirely 'head' with tentacaled arms and hands. It slithered about a 'garden' of mutating humanoid forms all looking like they were being morphed into different things...including eggs. It is an image of Hell I have trouble coping with. What we know now of the Engineers and the Black Goop from Prometheus, we might be treated to similar morphing nightmares in the future. Giger was indeed a demented genius.
Giger was never commissioned to do any art for the queen. Where did you find this?
I'm not exactly sure in the timeline when Giger painted this but it looks like a concept he had for the Aliens. Its very creepy! art.vniz.net/en/giger/Giger-Alien_Monster_III.html
Further amplification: It is a surrealistic homage to a piece called 'The Devil's Kitchen'. Devil's Kitchen indeed! alienexplorations.blogspot.com/1979/06/gigers-alien-monster-iii-homage-to-max.html
Yea...he actually suffered from night terrors. He started painting when he couldn't sleep and he painted the things that caused him not to sleep.
Now NONE of us can sleep! :P
yeah but prometheus sucked.
Kind of makes you wonder how all the eggs on the ship were so neatly arranged, maybe the xenomorphs who were responsible were OCD
The alien ship was stocked by the Engineers for transport
Maybe Kane had some form of OCD, and it carried over to his "kid".
It's not OCD, it's CDO. It has to be in alphabetical order.
And what about the mist which reacts when broken?
Rather than deleting the scene they should have kept it but included it at a different time in the film, say on the way to the self destruct initiation scene. It would have created more dread for viewers and sympathy to Ripley and her fear and made the final sequence even more intense.
Not a bad idea. Maybe some enterprising soul might make this happen. Perhaps for a 40th anniversary edition of the movie in a couple of years...?
I always trying to imagine that Ripley is horrified by one and another one will appear on the scene. That should put a lot of questions for audience and protagonist/s.
A true definition of terror. Cant believed they removed this
God Tom Skerritt is such a good actor, this whole scene gives me chills
I love how at 3:35 when Ripley is making her decision, it cuts back to the grotesque forms of the crew, leaking some unknown slime
That made me think the Brett egg was opening up to try and attack her.
Great scene, and I prefer the director's cut ... but I honestly agree with this being cut out because of pace and urgency. I can't help but hear the self destruct alarm in the background and think about how little time she has left. It breaks the 'ticking clock' suspense. And you can tell it's unfinished.
The alarm should always be the forefront sound that puts you in suspense and urgency. Would have been better to place this scene before she activates the self-destruct. But then it runs up against the Parker/Lambert scene. Can't really place it without reworking stuff that's already perfect.
Love the scene on it's own, though!
Yeah, I totally agree with you both. Taken on its own, it's an amazingly horrific scene that fleshes out the Alien's life cycle/behavior and shows the grisly fate of both Dallas and Brett, but it does create a huge pacing issue by totally derailing the tension that was established by the self-destruct sequence. Even Ridley Scott says that the original theatrical cut of the movie was really his "director's cut," as it was exactly the movie he set out to make. The more recent director's cut was just him re-inserting deleted footage just to have something for anniversary re-releases/marketing purposes.
@@ZZZGGGLLLAAAHHHIt my one gripe about Aliens - when she encounters the queen, suddenly the alarm and explosions stop and it gets super quiet until she cuts loose with the flamethrower several minutes later.
My God, that scene was very dark man, die immobilized like that, in a fucking wet forgotten part of a space vessel, that is terror man. I think that the alien nest has nothing to do with him preparing to lay eggs, his just assuming the role of a soldier and stocking food, or in that case, hosts for the Queen. But the alien doesn't have a clue that there is no Queen abord the Nostromo.
Maybe that's why it was converting the humans it caught into eggs. It was slowly starting to turn into a Queen!
Xenomorph drones are capable of turning into Queens. Specimen 6 turned into one in the 2010 AVP game.
+Laserbeak316 this was before the queen concept was created and back the. They might have just thought this is how it lays eggs. And that would be a even scarier
sanderflop Even if it was before the Queen concept was created, it still can be a plausible way that a Xenomorph drone turning into a Queen can create eggs and new drones before being able to produce an egg sac and lay more eggs.
Anything AVP is not lore
They cut this scene for a reason. It's not canon.
This doesn't invalidate Aliens at all. If a drone is on its own, it can make eggs. This ensures the survival and continuation of the species when there is no queen. They should've left this scene in - I don't see why it was cut. It explains Ripley's trauma with more depth. Thanks for posting this.
The whole _"kill me"_ thing from *_Aliens_* makes more sense.
It was cut for pacing and, from that perspective, it perfectly makes sense. Also, Scott felt that the visual quality was subpar, compared to the rest of the movie, which also makes sense. It's a pity that such a cool concept ended up on the editing floor, though.
5 years ago?
Hope you're still alive.
Yes, I like that idea of alternative reproduction. Furthermore, you'll notice the alien treated the women different. Possibly it reciognized the female of a species as similar to its own biology, or had the ability to "mate" with any female animal.
Even more horror for this psychosexual nightmare in the void.
Oh, these are theorized to be biological weapons, therefore you don't want them living and reproducing into an infestation. It takes one life for every alien to be born. It is almost unkillable, but grows fast and can hibernate. Eggs seem to be eternal. So they seemed designed like a weapon, made to sit inert for millennia, requires an 'ignition' then growing to full maturity, creating a swath of destruction and dead people, but then reproduces not itself, but the inert 'bomb' that can again, sit for eons, armed, but dangerous.
Deposit a couple thousand of these on your enemy's planet, they kill lots of organisms, destroy infrastructure if destroyed themselves, and the bomb reproduces itself after explosion.
You'd have a decimated enemy that would continually be re-decimated as new eggs are activated, no matter how many centuries went by, but you wouldn't have a new species taking over the planet in question. So, whatever land they conquer would stay conquered. Whatever race they deemed should be extinct would have difficulty reestablishing itself.
I wish they'd kept this scene in the original movie. I did read the Alien novel, and in the book, Ripley discovers Brett & Dallas BEFORE she sets the ship on self-destruct. I guess in the movie, the producers realized it was unrealistic of her to discover the alien's lair after the ship was primed to destroy - she would just have been madly running for the shuttle.
TheBob1901 The original deleted scene does not suggest the self destruct have been initialized yet. There are no sirens or warning lights...just silence when she descend the ladder. I Think they originally intended this scene to be after she finds Parker and Lambert killed and runs to hide. But for some reason Ridley put this scene in after the alarm was set on the directors cut.. Its cool but does not make sence for her to climb down there does it?
daveruda In the script, yes, it was intended to go before the self destruct, but it was filmed to go after it was set off. Look again at when she descends the ladder. There are flashing lights in the upper room she's climbing down from. And in the final film all the siren sounds were put in in post, after it was all filmed. I have an alien dvd with an on set audio track, and there are no sirens during most of the escape sequence.
DestronTC Interesting! That may be true. It looked to me like flickering light from flamethrower.If they just removed the siren sound in this scene it would work anyway I think.I copied this video and edited "the eggs" cue into it. Works quite well...if you like I will show it.
daveruda I agree. It should have been edited in to work before the self destruct
TheBob1901 you're right - it wouldn't have hurt to keep this scene in the movie. it was quite eerie and gruesome actually.
Man I loved Dallas.
So did the Xenomorph, that's why he gave him a birthday hug.
Alien will always be my personal favorite.
They should have left this in. It’s extremely frightening, and shows why it was necessary to blow up the ship.
Funny how Ripley always shows victims "mercy" by BURNING THEM ALIVE.
Imagine what they were going through that they found death by flamethrower a preferable fate.
@@ZZZGGGLLLAAAHHH there's easier ways
@@Mattman003 Yeah, but all Ripley had on her was a flamethrower. The ship was about to blow up, it's not like she had time to run and get them sleeping pills or whatever.
...there's only one Ripley; everyone else is FOOD,,,
What choice do she had, being armed only with flamethrower? She hand't a firearm, and not even a knife.
They were crazy to cut this. So disturbing!
This is the most disturbing scene in the movie. The fact that they don't show the process of the cocooning makes it even more unsettling... You just have to sit and imagine what is happening to this guy's body as some disgusting fucking slimey alien shit digests and morphs his tissue into a living hive for infant aliens...Fucking repulsive, and absolutely brilliant filmmaking here. The scene is also really sad because you can see how much pain is in Dallas' eyes, that he's willing to be burned alive (a horrible death) to stop the torment he's already going through. Obviously, Ripley is incredible here as always... Just an excellent scene and in my opinion, one of the best from the entire movie, and IT WAS FUCKING CUT FROM THE MOVIE. WHAT????? Cut from the movie so we could get an additional 5 minutes of the crew eating dinner together? Yes, the slow character development scenes are excellent, and they're what make these deaths have more impact, but still...How do you cut a scene like this out?
The darkest thing I had ever seen on an alien film! Hope they pull something like this in one of the two new alien movies! One from this year and the other for the next year.
H.R. Gigir is a mad genius!
That pretty much sums it up, right here.
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Adam Whitehead Totally agree. Rest in peace, H.R. Giger.
Incog2k6 he embodied one of the deepest nightmare of the mankind. , if someone were in Ripley shoes would have gone mad , that' s why i love alien (and also predator). ;)
Adam Whitehead the scariest thing is that Giger said I that most of the stuff he drew were things he saw in his dreams I don't think I'd ever sleep again if the least scary thing is see is a xenomorph lol the guy must of been a nervous wreck half the time
I heard the people on set didn't want to be around him because they found him too creepy. Only Ridley and the two writers liked him.
I always think to myself whenever watching this movie, the ship is scary enough even before the alien arrives. I mean imagine no alien on board, and Dallas nonchalantly tells you to retrieve something from the basement in this scene or that hangar area with the chains dangling where Brett gets taken. I wouldn't want to walk alone in any of the lower decks on the Nostromo by myself.
This scene was just a real world nightmare. It was just the most awfully painful and psychological death the characters could've experienced. It just proves the absolute horror that was the xenomorph species. I don't know how Sigourney Weaver slept after this was filmed.
Lambert’s death is a very close second.
its just a movie dude
She became a sex fiend after it lol
@@BaNNshEy No it is not these creatures could exist
@@BaNNshEy human history knows way more horrible methods of causing death.
i love this scene. its portaying the drone alien acting on instinct as if it were finding hosts for the queen. its as lost as they are but still preforming based on instinct. alot of people say prometheus tainted the waters by saying they are all made from the "black goo". but i feel the black goo only creates the creature, and from that, they create their own ecosystem and way of life. its really brilliant. the layers of creation in the species. from a weapon, to a free, rampant disease. preforming far beyond what the engineers expected. that said, i cant really justify alien resurection or even bits of alien 3
and how much do you justify of Prometheus?
i like prometheus as a stepping stone to a greater story yet to be told. its not one of my favorite movies ever but it does expand the universe. it shows how many, or at least gives an idea, as to how many planets have the building blocks for the Aliens on them. theres a much bigger story waiting to be told
Dan Balcom geez, you're optimistic aren't you. I would save that optimism for the things that truly matter.
unfortunatebeam
This is Ridley Scott we're talking about. I have faith in the man, and I'm interested in seeing where he takes the story.
I don't think it was ever confirmed that the black goo created the aliens, but I do agree that Prometheus added more depth to the story :)
Alien is one of my all time favorite horror movies. I have seen the theatrical cut probably 100 times. I FINALLY saw the director's cut tonight, and this scene truly horrified me and it will be the reason behind my nightmares tonight, lol. One of my favorite films just got even better!
Should have been in the original cut but damn this was the most horrifying thing in the aliens series.
Three things stood out for me in this scene:
First, how the sound cues (clinking chains) remind us that we're back where Brett had been attacked, and the whirling yellow lights remind us of Dallas's search in the ventilation tunnels.
Second, how Dallas’s physical suffering (incredibly effectively played by Skerritt) is consistent with the rest of the movie - the brutally "clinical" quality of the body horror.
Third, how the scene makes clear that every single horrible thing the alien has done is part of its life cycle. It’s not simply “knocking off” crew members because it’s vicious.
Having said that, I can understand why the scene was removed. But I can imagine the decision to remove it being a pretty damned hard one.
Dallas' "Riiipley!" is so haunting, gives me the chills every time.
Love that scene and the idea of eggmorphing, as it is so very horrifying.
I think he said, "Kill me."
It probably would have been more humane to at least knock Dallas out first. Gets half transformed into a facehugger egg and then burns to death damn...
may not be much of him left.........
+The Big Bad Wolf well i'm hoping the heat from the flame thrower was such that it caused instant incineration of uh, the uh, relevant material?????......
The Big Bad Wolf Transformed into a facehugger egg?What a stupid theory!!
MultiEvil85 It's not a theory. They were being turned into eggs. It's called eggmorphing.
I think the eggmorphing process was so excruciating that the pain from immolation would seem like taking a nice, warm bath by comparison.
Thank you for putting the different clips together. To me, this scene is absolutely horrifying.
Bloody nice job!
On the Alien scorepedia page there is a track called "The eggs" that was supposed to play over this scene. That track was intended to score a shortened scene without Dallas in it. This cocoon scence had so much potential...shame it has not been treated properly. I read that in the first cut this scene was 11 minutes.
+daveruda I'm fairly sure that's just a common misconception. I believe the cut 11 minutes were a few scenes including this one. Not just this one by itself.
+DestronTC It was probibly a very rough cut of the scene. I dont remember were I read it now. If it was placed Before the self destruct it could drag on a bit more than it does in Directors cut. That feels a bit rushed imo.
+Kevzete If they put the scene Before the self destruct like in the scripts it makes more sence.
+daveruda I heard somewhere that "rough cut" of the whole movie was almost 4 hours! Imagine if they would ever release that,that would be awesome,but sadly,it's a big no lol
This is beyond disturbing. Dallas is in a state of shock, his body slowly decomposed into an egg. It is obviously better to die in the hands of a Xeno than get captured, because what awaits you is agony you never thought possible.
I wonder what would happen if Ripley wasnt so badass and that Xeno actually prevailed and managed to create its monstrous cocoon lair, while awaiting rescue. I guess the ship would still be detained in a customs/quarantine so no matter how sneaky a Xeno is, without aid from a functioning Weyland/Yutani android, it would almost certainly be burned.
Thanks for the upload. This is so much better and scarier than the dumbed down DVD/Blu-Ray Director's Cut cocoon sequence. A missed opportunity. (perhaps the complete footage wasn't in good enough shape to restore and include?). I'd guess it was Scott's not so great idea to make that new cut shorter and "faster" for modern audiences.
Alex Video Player what cut is this one? I wanna get it
this adds SO much bizarre, mind-bending depth to the titular Alien. just horrific. Dallas being reduced to a drooling, moaning corpse-and from where did the eggs come? there are some very VERY potent rape/sexual overtones here with a movie already flowing with them; i mean...if the Alien were the "mother"... was Dallas the father? does the Alien reproduce asexually? who knows? AWESOME. so, so awesome.
I so agree (as I commented above)!! It makes it even more horrifying to see what happened to Brett and Dallas. If you like more in depth info/theories about the Alien Universe I'd suggest checking out two channels - Alien Theory and Hybrid Theory. The first goes deep inside the mythos using various alternate sources such as novelizations and comics and the other goes into that and movie information about the franchise. Good stuff to be found there!
Bijinius Cross totally agree. I'd like to see this topic explored more. Also interested (as a future story) if there could have been a way to save Dallas (in theory) and what would the repercussions be on a victim that survives such an atrocity - physically & mentally.
Bijinius Cross This is called "Eggmorphing".
Look it up,it's some.... interesting stuff.
Honestly, what is it with the fans of this movie & projecting their soft-rape fetish onto it?
No rape at all...it's nature. Consider the tarantula hawk. Implants tarantula with egg and leaves it paralyzed just like Dallas.
You can find it here on CZcams but Sigourney Weaver’s very first screen test for this film was of her reacting to Dallas and Brett being found entombed in the ship like this….
I mean if you encounter something like that, you know you're in some serious trouble. Unfortunately by doing this I'm afraid Ripley forced the Alien to the shuttlecraft.
I really like your thought process here!
Ok this makes sense
This is one rare example where additional exposition makes the subject (in this case, the Alien) so much more disturbing. In the original movie, the way how Aliens multiply was never answered. This scene does ... and the explanation is the stuff of the darkest of nightmares.
This scene is great! Its definitely canon in my book. I dont see why a movie about Aliens cant have two concepts of forming facehugger eggs.
They should have left this in, it’s pure nightmare fuel.
Personally I think they should've left this scene and basically stated that both the queen and standard xenos can make eggs. :P
+Barricade2091 It is making cocoons that doesn't mean it makes eggs. A male bird can make a nest but he can't create the life within it. The alien is an animal that is filling it's biological need to create a nice space for the queen.
+Incog Neato True but it was actually implied in this scene that the xeno was creating eggs complete with facehuggers. It was the original intension by the original creator until they made the queen for the second movie.
+Incog Neato It's very clearly transformed Brett into an egg, you can even see the digestive goop slopping off of him.
+Barricade2091 I always thought that an Xenomorph could morph itself into a queen if they needed a queen... considering they are the "perfect" lifeform, they should've been able to do so..
and put some apex-stuff in, so that the apex-drone becomes the queen, and two queens would not be able to co-operate, that would just start a war amongst the xenomorphs
+Barricade2091 I have three theories A the cacooning process is to produce a new queen (different life cycles) B this is used to create a different Xeno variant either drone or warrior or C this variant presumably warrior is female and attempts to procreate using a species specific old method but are ultimately unsuccessful due to lack of fertilization which prompted the change to a more parasitic method that's essentially cloning (facehugger)
Personally I think they should have kept this scene because to me this is the most disturbing and horrifying part and it explains why there was a hive on Sevastopol Station in Alien Isolation
this scene was SO chilling 😨😨
Awesome extended cocoon scenes! Alien is one of the most perfect films ever made.
Such an awesome scene. A real shame they didn't use this in the original cut. I guess leaving more of a mystery was a priority, but man... this is exceptional.
This is still canon as far as I'm concerned. I think the eggs would contain Royal Facehuggers.
Cybermat47 royal face huggers?
Tony Graham Royal Facehuggers are a special breed of Facehugger who are larger, tougher, and live longer than standard Facehuggers. They carry two embryos - a Queen, and a standard Drone.
avp.wikia.com/wiki/Royal_Facehugger
Cybermat47 damn i'd hate to have that on my face then. Are there anything BIGGER than royal ones? like Supreme Face huggers?
Ridley Scott never had plans for Alien queen or Royal facehuggers etc. That's Cameron's idea.
I prefer morphing eggs over Ant-based Aliens any time
Personally, I feel this should have been kept in the movie. I feel it doesn't effect the idea of Queen xenomorph becausd this method is slower and requires a creature to become the egg, while the queen just squeezes out the eggs like it's nobody's business. In the absence of a queen, it would make sense to start a hive if at all possible.
I watched this new material at home, and alone. So yeah, like watching Alien again, my neighbours made a little sound in the wall and my heart stopped. Thank you DestronTC.
This scene is scarier then whole Prometheus and Alien resurection movie. Good done!
Such a deliciously horrifying movie. I wish they would've kept the scene in the original cut. It only helped the story by showing the fates of Brett and Dallas. Not sure why they cut the scene
I'd always assumed the alien either ate them or was storing them for food. No way did I expect this.
How were they changing? Did the resin the alien secreted transform them on a cellular level? Brett's body still seemed somewhat translucent, almost like the cocoon structure was keeping him alive in order to change him into an egg.
I'm guessing that when they were making 'Alien' the idea of the alien Queen hadn't been broached by then, I've always read this scene as an organism seeking to repopulate out of sheer instinct.
Creepy as all hell.
fantastic scene
I think this is the first time I have ever seen this scene before!
The director's cut should have included this whole sequence uncut, the cut version has her seem too quick to kill them, while this shows her really struggle with it
Such a disturbing scene starting around the :57 mark when you hear Dallas mumble Ripley's name then begging for death even if it means being burned alive. Damn this film puts modern horror movies to shame.
This wrecked me Jesus christ. So unnerving! It's honestly better than any of those cocoon scenes in Aliens or Resurrection imo.
Right??? This is fucking horrifying Jesus Christ LOL
@evyalley my friend hello there anyway The Thing (1982) directed by John Carpenter is my number 1 favorite sci-fi horror movie and Alien (1979) directed by Ridley Scott is my 2nd favorite sci-fi horror movie but I consider the both of them the ultimate sci-fi horror movies ever created anyway I saw Alien (1979) first and it wrecked me just a little bit and my mental health was wrecked just a little bit but The Thing (1982) that one really wrecked me and it really wrecked my mental health took me a long while to recover from The Thing (1982) but now I watch The Thing (1982) directed by John Carpenter everyday and I watch Alien (1979) directed by Ridley Scott once a week just for fun but they are both still the greatest sci-fi horror movies ever created as well:).
The 9 to 13 minutes length of this sequence is actually correct. The A and B rolls are all intact as are presumably alternate takes. To this day the sequence has not been edited properly. Terry Rawlins and Ridley Scott had decided on their edits in 1979 and 2002.
i've just found out about this alternate eggmorphing scene. i know... a couple of decades late.
the theory of a drone xenomorph surviving on its own by creating a colony sans the queen by morphing victims into facehugger eggs hoping that one of them could be the one laying a queen embryo into a host... is interesting. i'm not sure if Ridley Scott at the time foresaw those two ways of creating a colony, but i think he felt the eggmorphing as part of the xenomorph lifecycle to be very 'alien' and why he cut this scene out of the theatrical version (the version that Scott himself still prefers).
James Cameron's introduction of the queen in the sequel makes the xenomorph lifecycle more relatable to us. the eggmorphing capability would've worked better if supplemented in the third installment. it would certainly up the game by adding another layer in the xenomorph survivability... instead of recycling the queen embryo concept in Alien 3.
According to the wiki, and other sources, xeno's operate in one of two ways (we're not counting that Cameron hadn't thought of a queen at this time). If an egg detects a victim, facehugger, then xeno arrives, but the egg being somewhat aware and intelligent alters the DNA of the facehugger just a bit so that the xeno has an addition at the tip of their tail. Solo xeno's can't start a hive normally but if they find viable hosts of sufficient size, they immobilize them and inject them with whats basically a slow transformative and digestive enzyme, coupled with their resin saliva to start an ovomorph. This creates, over i think 24 or 48 hours, a new egg/facehugger. Once a second host has been found/chestburster arrives, the primary (first) xeno at that point starts to undergo metamorphosis, shedding skin and grows into a praetorian, then eventually will morph into a queen IF further ovomorphs haven't produced the rare queen hosting royal facehugger. If said egg has developed, the first xeno has evolved to be a primary guardian for her and its metamorphosis stops, though if the queen dies its biology is ready to molt/morph to take the mantle to continue the colony. This is all the first, slowest, least efficient way a hive develops, BUT...in a case like on this ship, xeno's adapt to limited resources.
Way two is, of course, royal facehugger breeds a queen, who then lays eggs for drones, and with enough victims (aka Hadley's Hope) a hive can be created in fairly short order. Way two is obviously much more efficient in both resources and time, but again its very lucky as royal eggs are exceptionally rare if theres no queen to create them (queens use a special jelly to sort of level up a normal egg into 'royal' status).
I cant imagine the pain he must've been in. The enlightened film buffs always say this scene ruined the "pacing" of the ending whatever that means and we were better off not knowing but that's crazy. This scene right here is terrifying on a completely different level than what we had seen so far. I will never understand why it was cut
"I cant imagine the pain he must've been in." Yeah, and then to be burned to death...
Is faster- the only way ... @@rajman7644
I can't believe I've never seen this before. Thanks.
I watched this scene numerous times and just now I realized they mimicked this scene in Alien 4 when Ripley burns her failed clones. Mind blow :O
Ship is too big and too dark. Spooky as hell
Do you remember the egg embryo that David brought into the spaceship on Covenant in his throat? My thought is that any alien can make one of them and then put it on a cacooned body and it digests the body just like a wasp until eventually there is nothing of the body left and an egg sits in its place. So the body is not being morphed into an egg, rather the egg embryo is digesting the body and growing into its full self - the equivalent of what happens on a large scale in the queens egg sack. Brett cannot be morphing into a living organism - he is dead. He has magots on his head.
Wow - I’ve never seen a good-quality version of this scene. Amazing. I remember reading the Alien Magazine - right after the film came out - and it talked about this scene - but no one ever really knew it was filmed in good quality - until the recent releases.
If Ridley would have left this in - the entire franchise would have had a different direction. Instead - since he left it out - he’s now tried twice to correct the storyline. Amazing - they should have left it in.
Incredible acting from Skerritt.
I don't remember where I read it, but there were all these comments people were leaving, and these people were hardcore fans of the first film. So much in fact that they all flat out HATE what Cameron did by introducing a Queen in part 2. The reason being was that, given the sexual imagery rampant throughout this film, I think what they said was, was that Giger was giving us a creature that transcends gender, and thus reproduces asexually. "The perfect organism", as Ash says.
rightfully so. I really hate how over hyped cameron's movies are
The alien franchise is in a worrying place at the moment, what with Disney acquiring part-ownership of twentieth-century fox, and the risk of the fox company considering rebooting the alien franchise. i feel a collaboration between Ridley Scott and Neil Blomkamp would have been the best idea. Ridley has some amazing ideas, but maybe he needs to accept some real outside input and maybe Blomkamp would have been a great choice for that.
Very true.
It is with this scene that we understand that R.Scott was angry that J.Cameron created a new cycle by introducing a Queen...while the original cycle was much more horrific. Human = Egg = FaceHugger.
Such a great scene it really underlines the importance of blowing up the nostromo for 2 reasons 1 for destroying the facehuggers in those pods and 2 for destroying the main computer so that the planet where the facehugger came from can not be found or at least the ship cannot be found or at least imho
Just finished watching the 2003 Director's Cut for the first time and I was surprised when this scene came up. It feels like an unnecessary pit-stop in the film as Ripley is racing against the clock to get off the ship, but it is so damn sick, twisted, and intriguing that I can't hate it too much. It kinda explains how the eggs are formed which is neat. I will admit though that I think it was better to just have the Alien kill the crew. It just feels more natural that way. Still, this is an interesting scene to say the least.
They used a lot of sections from the deleted scenes and put 'em in the normal scenes that we see all the time from the theatrical release. Like the part when the tail creeps up behind Lambert when it's actually creeping up behind Brett.
Or the part when the mouth to the Alien opens up to Brett but it actually belongs to Parker's death scene. ( I could be wrong)
This is true. They used two different takes of the opening mouth for each death scene.
DestronTC Yeah there's even a part when Dallas is climbing down a ladder when he's in air ducts but it belongs to the part when Ripley finds the cocoons.
Yeah, that's the very first shot of this video.
DestronTC Yup yup. The alarm lights are a dead giveaway as well. xD
This screen is exactly the difference between the great action movie Cameron made and the true essence of what the franchise could have been. The horror of this film was not only what you could see it was the horror of what you could imagine as well.
Love that sound.
NO NOT WITH A FLAMETHROWER JESUS CHRIST
Being morphed into an egg isnt better.
“A painless poison will do- AAAAHAHHH”
Well... it wasnt plenty of weapons to choose on Nostromo, unlike Sulaco combat vessel in Aliens.
@@crocodyluspontifex7434 actually they did have lazer guns on the Nostromo, but they couldn’t use them against the Alien because acid blood
@@jonathanbirch2022 ship self destruct initiated and alien on their six, so it wasnt much time to search for laser guns or poisons, or some other humanistic way of euthanasia. It was a matter of minutes.
Aliens turned the whole lore from something truly horrifying and Lovecraftian into action shit where the xenos are pushovers and hardly scary. I love Aliens but it shat on what made Alien truly special.
Roland Tubman exactly, everybody since then wanna hunt aliens not to be hunted by them, and even so they are the most dangerous species in universe. Mmmmm hell yeah
I agree totally, also a Gooner knows best.
Rolan Tubman Yes, precisely this. Which, by the way, is the exact same thing Cameron did to his own _The Terminator_ with _Terminator 2_, turning an opprevise horror movie with a theme about free will into what, basically, is glorified action shlock
999SickBoy666 nonsense
I am glad that scene was cut, cause it totally breaks the mounting terror and panic of what comes before and after. Maybe if they had inserted in before the penultimate chase?
Well done DestronTC on your editing. nice job.
+martin johnstone Thank you very much :)
I always though the alien dragged Dallas and Bret somewhere else to feed on them... but this is far worse... too bad it got axed...
This shit makes Xenomorph twice as scary.
I love this scene
Awesome :) didn't know about this scene. Explains how a single Xenomorph can create more eggs :)
Почему эту сцену убрали из фильма??? Вот вечно так самые классные и важные сцены вырезают!!!
Love this sequence. Way more scary if the alien has a way of reproducing making it more virulent and dangerous. I love this scene its so unexpected and creepy and explains what the aliens goals were
Probably the best sci fi horror ever made. Certainly one of the greatest films ever made. Even today in 2021 some people may have forgotten "Alien" but it's still a classic and will remain so in the future and beyond. Ridley Scott is a visionary master director and even though made in 1979 I think Alien was ahead of it's time. Great film and one of those rare films you can watch over and over again it's that good and Alien is still the best film in the Alien film series as far as I'm concerned. Aliens doesn't even come close to Ridley Scott's masterpiece even though Aliens was also good but it doesn't beat Alien. The original will always be the best.
@stevenmitchell2996 hello anyway The Thing (1982) directed by John Carpenter is my number 1 favorite sci-fi horror movie and Alien (1979) directed by Ridley Scott is my 2nd favorite sci-fi horror movie and Aliens (1986) directed by James Cameron is my 3rd favorite sci-fi action and horror movie anyway my score for The Thing (1982) 10/10 and Alien (1979) 9.7/10 and Aliens (1986) 9.5/10 as well:).
I know the story lines that have gone along with the films since this original concept and that Cameron's idea afterwards had humans cocooned for the purpose of being a "host" for the lifeforms. Seeing this scene for the first time in the narrative of the first film, my impression would be that Brent and Dallas were "food sources" only - the cocooning process breaking down their bodies on a molecular level so they could be eaten by the alien. Am I completely wrong on what the intent of this scene was?
+Michael Barnhart What did the alien do to him, did it just cocoon him, and plant an egg in his chest, because it kind of looked like his eyes were missing, but then how did he know someone was comming? help?
Keith Nikolaevich they themselves were being transformed into eggs by the goop melting them down on a molecular level and using their DNA to make more eggs
Well, originally there was no Queen or anything like that. All that came from Aliens. At this point, it looks like once they cocooned, they actually turn into the eggs, as you can see at 2:38. That's why she burns him, instead of saving him.
Iirc, they convert human prey into eggs for more facehuggers until a queen is established.
Even in Bannon novelisation its stated Alien made egg from Brett, its quite logicaland better than stupid ant queen, facehugger lays embryo in human, embryo takes DNA and forms itself to adult, adult cocoons another being and uses his
dna to mutate that being into facehugger in egg, normal and clear, makes perfect sense, much better and grissly disgusting than some insect like queen, egg morphing was before Queen and therefore i treat it as canon, queen can also exist but egg morphing was first