WTF Happened to Full Metal Jacket?
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- čas přidán 14. 11. 2023
- If we’re talking about the holy trinity of Vietnam War movies, there’s no doubt about which ones reign supreme. Indeed, Francis Ford Coppola’s Apocalypse Now, Oliver Stone’s Platoon, and Stanely Kubrick’s Full Metal Jacket will forever be regarded as the most viscerally harrowing glimpses into the physical and psychological toll that the Vietnam War had on a generation of young American men. Yet, despite the popularity of Full Metal Jacket, one can’t help but wonder how much more successful the movie would have been if weren’t released in the shadow of Platoon’s smashing success. Remember, not only did Platoon win four Oscars in 1987, including Best Picture, but it was released in theaters just five months before Full Metal Jacket. As a result, Kubrick’s undeniable classic sort of got lost in the shuffle and never received the contemporaneous accolades and attention it deserved. Of course, always ahead of the curve and far beyond his time, Kubrick’s Full Metal Jacket has only gained appreciation and popularity over the years, with many even asserting that it’s the absolute best Vietnam War movie of all time.
The truth is, Kubrick began working on Full Metal Jacket long before Platoon was in production and has more in common with Apocalypse Now than Oliver Stone’s Oscar-winning classic. We’ll explain exactly how in this video, along with the film’s development, casting process, principal photography, on-set anecdotes, injuries, and accidents, and of course, Kubrick’s painstaking process that arguably made him the greatest living filmmaker of all time. We're about to find out What Happened to Full Metal Jacket!
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Kubrick made the perfect anti-war trilogy with Paths Of Glory (1957), Dr. Strangelove (1964), and Full Metal Jacket (1987).
Good comment. I’d just like to add that Kubrick said that Paths of Glory is an anti-war film, whereas FMJ is intended to be more of a dispassionate take on war, it’s *about* war itself, about the process of training soldiers and how they react on the battlefield
Paths of Glory was heartbreaking, great movie, but a gut punch
Huh, I didn't know Kubrick did Paths of Glory. Thanks!!
The fact that Kubrick not only allowed R. Lee Ermey to ad lib but shot the majority of his scenes after only one take is really incredible and a testament to just how truly perfect Ermey was for the role. We're talking about a director that made Harvey Keitel shoot a scene over 100 times before he finally walked off the set and quit.
The military fully preps you to do the same thing over and over again. In pain, stakingly detail and pain is the greatest teacher 😆
I thought the "ad lib" stories were urban legends.
@@MarcillaSmith "ad lib" is probably the wrong term. He didn't just go off the cuff while the cameras were rolling but he would submit a long list of lines and insults for Kubrick to go over and then approve. He would then finish all his scenes in one or two takes.
R. Lee Ermey was the most memorable part of this movie. His nasty putdowns are immensely quotable!
First thing I ever saw him in was actually a Geico commercial where he plays a therapist and yells at the patient
One of my favorites
Someone put the dialogue on to one of those old Christmas stop-motion crap the play every year. But it is pretty damn funny
What is your major malfunction numb nuts!
My two favoriites:
"Are you a f@99ot Private Pyle?" "Sir no Sir!" "Do you suck dicks?" "Sir no Sir!" "Bullshit! I bet you could suck a golf ball through a garden hose!"
"I think the best part of you ran down the crack of your momma's ass and ended up as a brown stain on the sheets. I think ya been cheated."
Full Metal Jacket wasn't just one great movie, it was two great movies. The Marine boot camp movie and the Vietnam war movie.
Agreed, I almost always think of it as 2 movies and sometimes I just watch half.
@@ross-carlson - Which half? I love both.
Two for One!
@@TodaysDante First half is the best half in my opinion. Second half is a little slow.
@@user-sp4gy7ko5l - That may be true. More vets can relate to the boot camp part as not all vets saw war time.
R. Lee Ermey was fantastic should have gotten a best supporting Oscar
Except he wasn't acting!
He almost did. It went to Sean Connery.
I love this movie. Saw it for the first time in a theater full of Marines when I was still active duty and have seen it multiple times since. The footlocker scene made all of us gasp as we all knew what would come next. The cast is just awesome from top to bottom. A special call out to Papillon Soo Soo who played the "Love you long time" hooker. Her lines are classic now and she really sold the part with no fanfare. Saw her in a Rutger Hauer movie called Split Second and hearing her speak in her [native] ENGLISH accent was really jarring. It was like "Holy shit. That's the "Love you long time" hooker.".🤣🤣
I don’t remember too much about the second half but the first half is iconic and etched In me forever
Former drill instructor R. Lee Ermey was first brought on as a consultant, but ended up “stealing” the role from the original actor who was cast (who shows up later in the film as the “Get some!” tail-gunner)
Wow, it's almost like they told us that in the video....
@@ross-carlson That’s great! I didn’t watch the video. Sorry if my comment irritated you. I hope you have a nice day 😀
@@gregbors8364I bet you constantly feel the need to try to impress others with how smart you are.
@@Nobody-dc8dp I comment fairly regularly, but it’s really just to exercise my brain. I don’t want my vocabulary to atrophy. I don’t care if anyone likes or is impressed by my comments, or reads them at all, really. But you seem to think I’m smart, so, thanks!
@@gregbors8364nobody thinks you are smart, you seem rather retarded, otherwise you wouldnt use youtube comments for your laughable vocabulary
I knew Gunny (R. Lee) personally... One of the greatest people you could ever meet, humble, kind and honorable.
May he rest in peace in Valhalla 🙏
They renamed a street in his honor up here in Palmdale. Avenue N became R.Lee Ermey Ave.
I enjoyed him much more in Saving Silverman than FMJ. In FMJ, he was just him in Saving Silverman he was the complete opposite.
@@donkeyshow7235Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003)
@marcg2106 Never saw it. I'm not a horror movie fan.
I had it next door neighbor who served in the US Marine Corps in Vietnam and he took part in the Battle of Hue serving with the 1/1.
Hue hue hue
Guys, you put footage of Lon Chaney Jr up instead of Lon Chaney or did you mean Chaney Jr??
I've never watched Platoon. THIS has always been my go-to movie concerning the Vietnam War. This movie was so good that I watched my friends dad, a hardened Vietnam Marine shed tears in the theater. I was almost 16 at the time. I really wondered why anyone would voluntarily join the military. 3 years later, I joined the military despite what was going on in Kuwait. Iraq invaded in August 1990, I left for bootcamp October 10th 1990. I am so glad I did.
I should do a viet week m, watching all of them starting with hood morning Vietnam end all of them in the middle with apocalypse now at the very end then it makes sense in the context of the historical events
the city of Hue is pronouced Whay and Vincent D'Onofrio's charector was named Leonard Lawernce and was nick named Gomer Pyle by gunny Hartman.
There was one other Vietnam War film that came out during the same time as Platoon and Full Metal Jacket. An often overlooked gem that is quite an excellent film in its own right called Hamburger Hill.
Hamburger Hill is the best Vietnam war film. It is so goddam brutal.
Agreed! Very overlooked.
One of my favorites
The first half the movie was much better than the later half. The scene where Private Pyle goes crazy was chilling.
i think that after the boot camp half is over the movie is just boring
It's telling that all these years later, when people think of the film, they almost invariably think of scenes from the first half. I think Heartbreak Ridge is probably similar in that aspect.
The second part is way more intense. The Soldiers trained by one of the wealthiest nations get killed by an underage girl. The first part shows how the Army tries to make killer out of ordinary people and the second shows that the Vietnamese didn't need any of this.
I've watched the first half of the movie about 20 times. I've watched the second half maybe 3 times.
YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND MOVIES AND YOU NEVER WILL!!!!
I used to like the first half better but it's all awesome! The bit where the camera tracks the marines across the city is Stanley at his brilliant best!
God rest R. Lee Ermey. He sure is missed. HOORAH! Gunny!
I did my army training at Basingbourne Barracks just after the film was made. The film set assault course was still up. A bits of it were safe enough for us to be beasted over.
Thanks, nice job. I lost my 'suspension of disbelief' in boot camp when all the wood in the obstetrical course stuff looked newly constructed with little wear from the thousands of bodies & boots that should have gone over it, with the mesmerizing & horrific performances of R Lee E & Vincent D pulling me back in.
Dinafrio's climax scene always felt very classically terrifying...now I understand why! I thought I knew everything there was to know about this film...thank you!! 👏 👏 👏
I think the model-free nature of the thing is what struck me most about this movie. That it folds in on itself and becomes kind of a meta mockumentary about the Vietnam War is something I wasn't really expecting. The meaning of the thing didn't especially resonate with me, partly because I've seen a lot of the same points made elsewhere, but it's good for what it is.
What the f did you just say?
This always seemed like 2 separate movies to me.
Yes, same here.
It is in a way but it’s held together by the continuity of the characters of Joker and Cowboy
Another of my favorites from my favorite movie channel🐐🐐
I remember the first time I saw this movie and really enjoyed it. The drill sergeant was a scary person. I saw it as two movies in one. I've owned it on VHS, DVD and Blu-Ray.
Drill instructor. Drill sergeants are in the Army. I made that mistake in boot camp n paid dearly.
I never understood why ending the sniper is made to be such a big deal. Not only did she take out multiple men, she did one slow in a calculated way. I'd think they would savor their revenge.
The only other girls in the film are prostitutes. The sight of a young girl in civilian clothes praying as she dies in front of them threatens to awaken their suppressed humanity
My choice to view over and over and over is full metal jacket over apocalypse now and platoon
It’s just that of a perfect film for me
Well done. I didn't expect this presentation to be that good...but it is well researched and written.
This movie inspired me to join the Marine Corps. I originally joined the Army in high school and I didn't know much about the Corps before I watched this movie but I loved it, switched services and was off to boot camp shortly after watching it. Even did a parody of this for a class project. Love this movie, OOHRAH!!!
Yikes!
An ex work colleague of mine was a security guard on the set and ended up as an extra in the movie. You can see him and another guy lugging an ammo box at around 1:16:40 in the film.
Also location wise, at about 1:01 (the traffic on a country road), this was shot on Mead Wall, a road in Cliffe, Kent, you can see the oil storage tanks of the now demolished Shell Haven in the distance.
Fantastic film, one of those that gets better with every viewing. As much as i love Apocalypse now, (I think I have seen every cut of it), I think FMJ is a better overall movie.
Such a great film , my favorite of Kubricks work.
Could you cover Hamburger Hill as well, it's not on the same level as Apocalypse Now, Platoon and Full Metal Jacket but still one of the best Vietnam films to portray the brutality, horror and futility of war. If I'm not mistaken the film is heralded as having the most realistic portrayal of what it was as like to be there with exception to the everclean uniforms.
I always preferred Full Metal Jacket over Platoon....i like both but i just enjoybFull Metal more, the story when they were in booth camp was entertaining, dark and just draws you into the story....
14:08
Let's get this out on a tray
NICEE!
@5:58 D'Onofrio's character is Leonard Lawrence. Pyle is the name Hartman gave him
Apocalypse Now is the best of them three!!! Platoon and Full Metal Jacket are on the same level...
A film that only gets better with every viewing.
100% agree. That's been my experience with every Kubrick film.
Preston and Steve!!! Listen to it every morning.
I would really like to know WTF Happened to The Deer Hunter, because it was a major hit, won multiple Oscars, and yet isn't mentioned along with FMJ, Apocalypse, and Platoon as the great Vietnam movies. And I agree it doesn't belong with them, but I couldn't quite explain why. Maybe you can.
Probably because its director Michael Cimino never did anything as successful as THE DEER HUNTER ever again, and in fact his next movie HEAVEN’S GATE was a notorious bomb that went so far over budget due to Cimino’s hubris that it bankrupted United Artists. None of which has anything to do with the quality of THE DEER HUNTER (which I consider a narrative mess but well worth seeing), but hey, life ain’t fair.
The Deer Hunter isn't really about war, it's about psychological damage. That's my impression, anyway
@@michaelhall2709 Actually I liked Heaven;s Gate.
I just rented and rewatched The Game. Thanks for this. It’s incredible. I saw it in the late 90’s on VHS and it’s so much better now.
14:08, "Let's get this out on a tray.... nice."
Lawrence. Vince D'Onofrio played private Leonard Lawrence. Gunny dubbed him "Gomer Pyle" in derision.
I watched this whilst waiting to get my hair cut in basic training.
Definitely gave me second thoughts🇬🇧👊🏼
Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?
I've always wondered about how someone so meticulous, who would have the M60 tanks rock when firing (recoil rarely happens in movies) could miss having the tiles behind Pvt. Pyle shatter during his suicide. Was there a reason behind it? We'll never know...
Shrapnel
Probably because of the amount of time to reset the set between takes. The difference between rebuilding a whole part of a wall, and just wiping up blood and resetting the charges. Also, perhaps more important, he may have had this same thought and discussion, but after seeing one of the all time greatest performances, he cared less about accuracy of some tiles and more about the emotional accuracy portrayed. There are numerous continuity errors throughout Kubrick films, not done in error, but accepted in lieu of crafting the best edit from the best performances. Another case being Nicholson in The Shining chopped through the door too quickly on take one, because he was a volunteer firefighter, so they had to replace the door with a stronger one. All throughout the scene one panel of the door is chopped away and missing, but on the final shot as he’s leaving you can see two panels missing (perhaps from this more flimsy door). I’m sure he saw this in the edit, and decided it was not worth it to cut around because he’d lose something emotional from the performance. Kubrick’s obsession with multiple takes wasnt driven from this master plan he had in mind, but a constant search for emotional truth he could play with in the edit. He famously said he didn’t know what he wants, but what he doesn’t, and I’m sure what he wanted he got without shattered tiles.
The Holy Trinity of Vietnam War Movies is: Missing In Action 1, 2 and 3 😂
One of the best films about the early days of the Vietnam War was the highly rated but overlooked film "Go tell the Spartans" from 1978 starring Burt Lancaster and Craig Wasson. A classic.😊
FMJ will always be a classic for inspiring 2 Live Crew's love ballad.
Where did you get the map @4:17 and what did you do with Maine?
Casualities of war ought tobe covered. While not as well known as fmj it's worth a look.
I also liked Jacobs ladder
Michael Herr’s book “Dispatches” is a must read to get background information on the absolute insanity of the Vietnam war.
I remember waiting in the San Diego Airport waiting to go to boot camp , the uso played it all day tell the drill instructors came to get us. Great movie
FMJ is, as with all Kubrick's works, about much more than just it's subject matter. For those who think the 2nd half is weak, or doesn't stand out from other Vietnam war movies, well, I just couldn't disagree more - both parts are different but equally brilliant and important to the film as a whole.
I will never forget how I was introduced to this movie. 25 years ago, when I was 14 years old, I'm in my room and I hear my Dad and brother laughing hysterically almost nonstop for a good 5 minutes. However they came across the film (probably on cable) thy caught it right from the beginning and all of Ermey's lines had them in stitches, and eventually me as well when I went in there to see what was so funny. Suffice to say, a few months later my brother and I were very happy to unwrap a vhs copy of the movie on Christmas morning and put it right in the VCR to watch it again. It made me start checking out more of Kubrick's work (I had already seen "The Shining" a year or 2 prior but nothing else) and now he's one of my favorite directors. I've seen at least 3 of his flicks in theaters more than once each. The best one being a 70mm screening of "2001" for its 50th anniversary.
There are good and all, but the Mel Gibson led We Were Soldiers will always be, not only my favorite Vietnam movie but my favorite war movie in general. I think it's the best
"The holy trinity of the 3 best Vietnam war movies, Apocalypse Now (Redux), Full Metal Jacket and Platoon"
The Deer Hunter enters the room ...
One story I heard was that Emery was on set rehearsing a scene with the new recruits with Kubrick sat down near him. Emery said something about only a real drill instructor should play one and Kubrick did not look up at him brushing him off with some remark at which Emery exploded at him in full drill instructor mode yelling him to stand when addressing him and the first and last words out of his mouth should be sir which swayed Kubrick. Probably not true but love the idea of that happening. Also Tom Cruise am sure said in the making of eyes wide shut that he called Modine and said he got the new Kubrick film and Modine laughed and said something about how long the shoot would take.
I've read somewhere that the second half of the movie is the first half of the movie in reverse. So individuals devolving into k*lling machines, then regaining their humanity in second half.
I don't know, but I love all of this movie!
14:12 "let's get this out onto a tray. Nice!"
Fun fact about me and my cousins we watched this, Platoon, Apocalypse Now, and Hamburger Hill before we were 13 most of us with my uncle and a couple of my other cousins also watched them but a bit later
The boys in company C is one of my favourite.
Full Metal Jacket is quite similar to The Boys in Company C, which was about Marines going through boot camp, then it showed their service in Vietnam.
One of the greatest war films ever.
Not sure I follow the math at 8:54
How does one conceive, deliver, and celebrate the birthday of a child in less than one year?
The Short Timers was an antiwar book which Stanley Kubrick. The FMJ was brass jacketed rather than copper. Brass and bronze both require that tin and copper be mixed with more tin than copper makes brass and more copper than tin makes bronze
I laughed my ass off when I saw you used Steve1989’s MRE review videos @14:10.
I have all 3 movies and this one is my favorite. It bumped Apocalypse Now from top spot.
So crazy, never really knew platoon existed and never seen it never heard anyone talk about it but Full Metal Jacket I seen a million times and it’s regarded as being the best war movie especially Vietnam. Wow. Legit too ahead of his time Stanley Kubrick wasn’t a god he was god
Okay, there are some huge historical inaccuracies here. First the term FNJ means that a round has a soft lead core encased in a harder metal shell, that's it. It does not denote the caliber of the weapon firing the shell nor manufacturer or its type. Every single caliber that is manufactured today has its very own FMJ ammunition (it's a type of round). You can actually buy FMJ's at most gun shops and sporting stores today for just about any kind of firearm you want. Moving along....
The M-14 (the one Private Pile shot himself with) is incredibly unwieldy in full auto and therefore was not issued to US soldiers during the Vietnam War. It was replaced by the M-16A1 that featured a much, much smaller round at 5.45x56mm or .223. Essentially, the M-16 (and AR-15) fire a 22 caliber shell making it easy for almost anyone to operate. You actually see this in the film as once training is done and Joker is in Vietnam they all had M-16A1 rifles (accept for Animal Mother as he had a belt fed M-60 AKA 'The Pig').
For reference- the 7.62x51mm or .308 was created by Winchester in 1952. The first FMJ round was created by Swiss Colonel Eduard Rubin in 1882 long before the M-14 or the 7.62x51mm caliber existed.
A true masterpiece! Though the first half is much more memorable, the second half is just as great! Hartmann, Gomer Pyle and Animal Mother made the film.
Hmmmm, Made some notes ive never heard , Thx
Kubrick didn’t consider Improvisation taboo….He often encouraged actors to come up with their own ideas, but to run it past him first…😀
Didn't the M16s you see in the Vietnam footage fire 5.56 mm rounds and not 7.62mm?
Correct, 5.56
Yeah but they used the M14 in training scene's which fires the 7.62.
@@PrivateJoki And Canada used to have the FNC1 which also was chambered for 7.62mm.
The marines used M-14’s. 7.62 rounds
The deer Hunter is a good one too.
“Private Joker is silly and he’s ignorant but he’s got guts, and guts is enough.”
Kubrick shot the film in 1.33:1 because it was shot "open matte". He intended the film to be shown in 1.85:1, not the 2.39:1 aspect ratio you guys make it out to be. I don't know where you got that information from. He intended for the film to be shown in 1.33:1 on home video and tv because it would take up the whole screen without losing any information. This is why all DVD releases of the film (until the film was released on HD-DVD and Blu-ray in 2006 and rereleased on DVD in 2007). It was then given the aspect ratio of 1.78:1 because that would fill screen while keeping an aspect ratio that was closer to its theatrical ratio. Kubrick always wanted the film to fill whatever screen it was showing on.
TLDR: Aspect ratio of the film was 1.33:1 for VHS and Laserdisc releases along with TV airings. The aspect ratio changed to 1.78:1 when the film entered the HD era.
That Steve Mre scene though;]
My son just finished Marines bootcamp and let me tell you it's still as brutal treatment from the DI's and other recruits.
Let's get this out on to a tray.
Nice.
Steve MRE
Yep that teenage girl was picking them off like somebody was picking cherries from a tree🍒🍒🍒
I wish someone would make a film out of the book Chickenhawk in the same vain, that would provide the final piece for me
I read that book when I was a teenager. Good book about being a helicopter pilot during Vietnam war.
They made us watch this movie in boot camp. White dudes loved the movie, us black guys didn’t care about it😂
I heard R Lee Emry got the role because the original actor (the 'get some' gunner) lost his voice whilst screaming and shouting all day. Due to Emry having actually been a drill instructor in the forces he was more than capable of yelling all day without it affecting his voice. So there!
R Lee Emry stole the part from the original actor and he never forgave him.
Congratulations you made me want to watch full metal jacket again
I don't need to be prompted to watch it again.
Smokey, this isn't Nam, there are rules
I am not sure if i ever saw platoon. I watch full metal jacket all the time.
A True Classic Masterpeace!! 😊👊✊😆✌✌🍁
Naa Bro there's 4 Great visceral Vietnam movies... Apocalypse Now, Full Metal Jacket, Platoon, & The Deer Hunter... You can't forget The Deer Hunter when talking Vietnam masterpieces. The Russian roulette scenes are among the best scenes of all time in all of cinema.
Agreed. That scene in The Deer Hunter stays with you.
Heck yea, Deer Hunter felt to me like an alternative version of Apocalypses Now. So trippy.
>“Silent film star Lon Cheney.”
>Shows footage of Lon Cheney Jr.
I love it when film youtubers know nothing about film history.
I have it on VHS and DVD.
No, Apocalypse Now was the best Vietnam War movie ever made, because it comprehended the absolute insanity of the war. There were moments of self consciousness in both Platoon and Full Metal Jacket that are not on display in Coppola's opus. My favorite scene in Full Metal was when Pyle shot the sadistic Drill Instructor. The irony, of course, was that he had succeeded in transforming Pyle into a killer.
I listened to them film it, the sound of M16 fire across the Thames from Beckton gas works, doubling from the city of Hue.
I didnt see this until my early 30s and was like "WTAF😮".
Dont forget about Dead Presidents as one of the Vietnam war movies. It was a movie about young adults surviving Vietnam war, trying to continue life in society F’d up in the head and choosing the wrong path in life.
I wasn't there, but it's been 50 years and folks still can't pronounce Hue right. Good breakdown though.
It’s the first time I’ve ever heard someone pronounce it like that..
the deer hunter should also be mentioned in greatest Vietnam war films
Great 😊
What about "Boys in Company C"?.... another great Vietnam Era based movie!
R. Lee Ermey was perfect for the role, but I won't deny that I would have liked to see Ed Harris in the role also.
Too young 😊
I think the only time I've seen Ed Harris play a villain is in A History of Violence. I think they got the right actor for the role.
@@simonkevnorris The Rock, Enemy at the Gates and Westworld spring to mind as some of his more villainous roles. He was outstanding at all of them.
It’s My favorite war film.
This film is brilliant!