Tip for the EMU: You can distort the Filters too. You have it set up correctly already (Volume knob at 3 o'clock, +12dbU in the menus). Try setting up a highpass with quite ab it of Q and modulate it around some low pitched sounds. It's a distortion that's absolutely unique to the EMU Samplers. Works with other filters too.
Nice tip mate! Yea I did actually have a section where I tried distorting the filers in the EMU. I used the morph/peak with really extreme settings but I always felt it was the headroom distorting and not the actual filter. I left it out in the end as I wasn't sure. I know overdrive filters is very common but there is no way in the emu to crank the gain into the filter and then turn it down after. ✌️🔊
It's wierd cas I know some people rave about the Z-plane Morph filters & I have got some interesting results from them in the past but i just love the lowpass/high pass the most. They're very characterful filters, espeically the resonance is no so harsh. ✌️😊 Vid would be a cool idea. I would download this and use the Z-planes. Best for ITB :) www.airwindows.com/consolidated/
aww good shout re Mackity - it's included in the Surge XT effects section, too - chaining a couple of them, and now your amp ADSR is "filter controls", heh
What a lot of people don't know or remember is Soundcraft were also a widely used mixer as well. I've got a Spirit E12 and it's got the same flavor and layout of the Mackie desks. I've had Mackie and they're great but I LOVEV my old Soundcraft. Mine is from when they were made in England.
@@groovining yeah I think it’s the reliability of the Mackie plus they where used by more well know artists, like Liam Howlett, chemical brothers ect ect. But from what I read the mixer you have can go bat sh!t crazy with the distortion. But the king of distortion is Sherman fb2 which I also have and paired with as-1 by Dave smith (basically a pro 1.5) very nice tones if you can tame it.
I had a Studiomaster but did the same thing. Don’t just drive through the gain though, drive the EQs. What also sounded really good, and you kind of touched on it, was noise, particular digital noise and aliasing from the noisy output stages of FM synths like the TX81z, that noise goes fantastically well through FX.
Cheers for the info. Yea I agree on the nosie for sure. It's what gives the sounds life and character. Once you start filtering etc your in business. :) ✌️😊
Nice ghal3on! Yea I remeber reading people talking about that on the DOA EMU page. I think that 'sweet spot' does move around a bit depending on your sounds & how hard your distorting them etc in the EMU. Turning up the 'Output Boost' also make it a bit easier to get close to that saturation point on the Output. ✌️😊
Try some mixer feedback, take the left output and plug it into a channel, then use the right output to go to the speakers. As you turn the volume up on the channel you've plugged into, you'll generate a wave, and then you can tweak the EQ to get all sorts of cool bleeps and stuff. It's like a ghetto modular synth. If the mixer has more bells and whistles, like FX sends or built-in FX, you can route those things back into other channels as well and you have a really cool noise machine. WARNING: it will be loud and also there's a risk of damaging your mixer, but I've done this with a Behringer mixer for over a decade now and it still works just fine.
Nice vid. I used to have the Alesis “clone” of the Mackie. If I recall correctly Alesis got sued for it… anyhow analogue desks suffer from “crosstalk” where one channel leaks into another when you push beyond its intended spec. Chances are back then, the sampler would be wired (for monitoring etc) into the same desk youre sampling stuff from. I used to use one of the desks mix buss outs or fx send to the samplers input. So not only have you got the distortion, you’d often end up getting some mad feedback due to the high levels crosstalking… sometimes it was usable, other times you needed to pull down on the right fader really fast 😂
Interesting, Thanks for the info mate. Yea we've all experience those crazy feedback surges every now and again! There slightly traumatic & I know people fuck with feedback stuff but I try to stear clear. Seems like a dangerous game for jsut generating a resonance. Makes the ears ring for hour until one day they never stop. 😂
Appreciate that mate! Lots of this information is dotted around the internet in various low res videos & old forum posts so its nice to put it all together in a vid like this. Explore some technique of my own :) ✌️😊
@@groovining yes it’s really good to consolidate all the information in a small series like this, so people can dig deeper into it. hats off to you really looking forward to your next series (ed rush and optical maybe?) nevertheless I’m here for it.
Cheers dude - Yea Ed Rush & Optical would be dope. I know there is a few great posts about the basslines they made and the processes they used. This is a good read - sample-genie.com/topic/artist-qa-threads/
@@groovining there is also an emu mega thread that optical him self has spoken in lots of times but I’m sure you are aware of this, thank you I’ll dig into that.
Cheers bro! I've been trying to produce as much as possible this year alongside all the videos & patreon stuff. Hard to fit in but I've got the workings on an album coming together. :) ✌️😊
I know there is Aural Exciter from Waves. Other than that, the best thing is probably Saturn where you can just target the upper freq with some saturation which will give you a very similar effect.
@@Artersa yes it could well have been. There was a mackie micro 1202 from japan vs this one I was weighing up. I actually love the way it distorts so very happy. If you listen at the end. 80% of the takes are good but every now and again their is something really naughty. Layering that up again with a clean sub and your in business.
False advertising! The title promises 90 techniques, while the video doesn't contain nearly that many. Joking aside, thanks, this was very informative.
Ha thanks mate. I did actually so another video going over loads of other 90’s jungle techniques. I thought these two paired together quite well so gave them a similar title :) ✌️
For the research I did there is always the potential to overheat components and damage them. In terms of driving a sampler really hard like an Akai, it's quite hard to do. Maybe the 'rec input' on high maxed out cause wear it down over time if you were using that to create distortion.
@@groovining I am a bit savvy with electronics so I might be able to repair that. Where would you think damage occurs most in the rec input boards? An akai s1100 has three of them, same as your s1000 I believe. I can always choose to sacrifice one of those boards to be used as driven channel only and use the other two for regular recording inputs. See if I can add a second input channel with a switch in the s950.
@@DH-fu7bx If you're good with electronics I'm sure you know more than me about this! I was just thinking that the 'Rec' input is where you can get the most extreme distortion out of the Akai. It was hard to find any conclusive evidence about this online, which components are more susceptible to damage etc. I will say i'm pretty sure I destroyed my Alto 1604 mixer doing this though as it was only a year or two old. I used to smash the channel in that all the time.
Tip for the EMU: You can distort the Filters too. You have it set up correctly already (Volume knob at 3 o'clock, +12dbU in the menus). Try setting up a highpass with quite ab it of Q and modulate it around some low pitched sounds. It's a distortion that's absolutely unique to the EMU Samplers. Works with other filters too.
Nice tip mate! Yea I did actually have a section where I tried distorting the filers in the EMU. I used the morph/peak with really extreme settings but I always felt it was the headroom distorting and not the actual filter. I left it out in the end as I wasn't sure. I know overdrive filters is very common but there is no way in the emu to crank the gain into the filter and then turn it down after. ✌️🔊
Don't mind me, I'm just commenting to help the algorithm promote some great content!
Thanks bro - carry on as you were :) 😊
Great as usual! Any chance of a video about the EMU Z-plane filter? Examples and recreations etc...
💯. A vid diving into this alone after getting a bass sound nice and saturated would be dope as well
It's wierd cas I know some people rave about the Z-plane Morph filters & I have got some interesting results from them in the past but i just love the lowpass/high pass the most. They're very characterful filters, espeically the resonance is no so harsh. ✌️😊
Vid would be a cool idea.
I would download this and use the Z-planes. Best for ITB :) www.airwindows.com/consolidated/
aww good shout re Mackity - it's included in the Surge XT effects section, too - chaining a couple of them, and now your amp ADSR is "filter controls", heh
Mackie mixers are about to go up (again…)
Good I have 2 😂
What a lot of people don't know or remember is Soundcraft were also a widely used mixer as well. I've got a Spirit E12 and it's got the same flavor and layout of the Mackie desks. I've had Mackie and they're great but I LOVEV my old Soundcraft. Mine is from when they were made in England.
💰💰💰
Mackie definitly get raved about more these days but Soundcraft seem dope also! Saving up for the next expansion. :) ✌️😊
@@groovining yeah I think it’s the reliability of the Mackie plus they where used by more well know artists, like Liam Howlett, chemical brothers ect ect. But from what I read the mixer you have can go bat sh!t crazy with the distortion. But the king of distortion is Sherman fb2 which I also have and paired with as-1 by Dave smith (basically a pro 1.5) very nice tones if you can tame it.
I had a Studiomaster but did the same thing. Don’t just drive through the gain though, drive the EQs. What also sounded really good, and you kind of touched on it, was noise, particular digital noise and aliasing from the noisy output stages of FM synths like the TX81z, that noise goes fantastically well through FX.
Cheers for the info. Yea I agree on the nosie for sure. It's what gives the sounds life and character. Once you start filtering etc your in business. :) ✌️😊
awesome vid once again :) If you look closely at the one dilly video, he has the volume knob on his EMU marked for the "sweet spot"
Nice ghal3on! Yea I remeber reading people talking about that on the DOA EMU page. I think that 'sweet spot' does move around a bit depending on your sounds & how hard your distorting them etc in the EMU. Turning up the 'Output Boost' also make it a bit easier to get close to that saturation point on the Output. ✌️😊
Try some mixer feedback, take the left output and plug it into a channel, then use the right output to go to the speakers. As you turn the volume up on the channel you've plugged into, you'll generate a wave, and then you can tweak the EQ to get all sorts of cool bleeps and stuff. It's like a ghetto modular synth.
If the mixer has more bells and whistles, like FX sends or built-in FX, you can route those things back into other channels as well and you have a really cool noise machine.
WARNING: it will be loud and also there's a risk of damaging your mixer, but I've done this with a Behringer mixer for over a decade now and it still works just fine.
This is also an excellent way to blow up your speakers.
@@KimStennabbCaesar Use with caution! 😄
@@paulahaunt I'd definitely use a limiter in a no-input setup, haha. Love your channel btw, you make cool stuff.
@@KimStennabbCaesar Thanks Kim! A limiter would be a good idea. I just keep the volume super low on whatever I'm sending the signal into.
Since it's a behringer you can replace it for a couple hundred pretty quick haha
Cool track at the end
Cheers mate - glad you liked the tune :) ✌️😊
6:53 I'd love a full track of that!! 🔥🔥
me too
reminds me of the Soul R days
It's a little remix of this Alecia Keys track - czcams.com/video/jAtwEKPm3lY/video.html
In the works :) ✌️😊
@@groovining Nice. Very creative sampling!!
This man gets it 🙏
Cheers brother! I enjoy exploring all these old techniques :) ✌️😊
Nice vid. I used to have the Alesis “clone” of the Mackie. If I recall correctly Alesis got sued for it… anyhow analogue desks suffer from “crosstalk” where one channel leaks into another when you push beyond its intended spec.
Chances are back then, the sampler would be wired (for monitoring etc) into the same desk youre sampling stuff from. I used to use one of the desks mix buss outs or fx send to the samplers input. So not only have you got the distortion, you’d often end up getting some mad feedback due to the high levels crosstalking… sometimes it was usable, other times you needed to pull down on the right fader really fast 😂
Interesting, Thanks for the info mate. Yea we've all experience those crazy feedback surges every now and again! There slightly traumatic & I know people fuck with feedback stuff but I try to stear clear. Seems like a dangerous game for jsut generating a resonance. Makes the ears ring for hour until one day they never stop. 😂
Would have loved to see the Mackie 1202! I have one but not sure how to use it...
Just drive the input level into the channels really hard. Turn up the gain for the channel & turn down the master fader to control the signal ✌️🚀
@@groovining I will try this!
This is gold like raw pure gold nuggets well done. ❤
Appreciate that mate! Lots of this information is dotted around the internet in various low res videos & old forum posts so its nice to put it all together in a vid like this. Explore some technique of my own :) ✌️😊
@@groovining yes it’s really good to consolidate all the information in a small series like this, so people can dig deeper into it. hats off to you really looking forward to your next series (ed rush and optical maybe?) nevertheless I’m here for it.
Cheers dude - Yea Ed Rush & Optical would be dope. I know there is a few great posts about the basslines they made and the processes they used. This is a good read - sample-genie.com/topic/artist-qa-threads/
@@groovining there is also an emu mega thread that optical him self has spoken in lots of times but I’m sure you are aware of this, thank you I’ll dig into that.
@@anyme3046 Yea I love it. People are speculating about his techniques and he just comes in and drops knowledge :)
Spirit Folio!!!!
Yes! I'd love to sit with a whole bunch of these desks and compare them. ✌️😊
Man I really like your music! ✨
Cheers bro! I've been trying to produce as much as possible this year alongside all the videos & patreon stuff. Hard to fit in but I've got the workings on an album coming together. :) ✌️😊
7:54 secret bonus track breaks on Lemon D - Two techniques!
Yes it is! :) ✌️😊
“A little bit, a lot” ❤️🔥💯
❤ cheers mate :) ✌️
Outdo track was a banger! 🦾🦾
Thanks mate - glad you enjoyed the tune :) ✌️😊
Are there any plugins you know of that do high freq exciters that you know of? Seems like a common thing on some of my 90s hardware
I know there is Aural Exciter from Waves. Other than that, the best thing is probably Saturn where you can just target the upper freq with some saturation which will give you a very similar effect.
Ah, I wonder if we were looking at the same Boss mixer on Reverb haha. Been wanting something like it myself.
@@Artersa yes it could well have been. There was a mackie micro 1202 from japan vs this one I was weighing up. I actually love the way it distorts so very happy. If you listen at the end. 80% of the takes are good but every now and again their is something really naughty. Layering that up again with a clean sub and your in business.
It’s a great little mixer. I’ve owned one in the past and regret selling it!
0:59 i've heard that track before but can't remember the name.. What is it? Beautiful pads, Thanks!
Lemon D - Going Gets Tough
@@groovining thank you so much! Now I'm pretty sure I've heard it on bukem 's kiss fm sets
Best channel
Cheers bro! Appreciate that :) ✌️😊
These kinda Jam made me needs to go to Patreon 🥷🏿
False advertising! The title promises 90 techniques, while the video doesn't contain nearly that many.
Joking aside, thanks, this was very informative.
Ha thanks mate. I did actually so another video going over loads of other 90’s jungle techniques. I thought these two paired together quite well so gave them a similar title :) ✌️
Mixers aside, is there any danger to frying the other gear in this video? I really love my Akai samplers. And don't want to destroy them.
For the research I did there is always the potential to overheat components and damage them. In terms of driving a sampler really hard like an Akai, it's quite hard to do. Maybe the 'rec input' on high maxed out cause wear it down over time if you were using that to create distortion.
@@groovining I am a bit savvy with electronics so I might be able to repair that. Where would you think damage occurs most in the rec input boards? An akai s1100 has three of them, same as your s1000 I believe. I can always choose to sacrifice one of those boards to be used as driven channel only and use the other two for regular recording inputs. See if I can add a second input channel with a switch in the s950.
@@DH-fu7bx If you're good with electronics I'm sure you know more than me about this! I was just thinking that the 'Rec' input is where you can get the most extreme distortion out of the Akai. It was hard to find any conclusive evidence about this online, which components are more susceptible to damage etc. I will say i'm pretty sure I destroyed my Alto 1604 mixer doing this though as it was only a year or two old. I used to smash the channel in that all the time.
Very nice
Like the research as well as the demos. Tune sounds hard also
Cheers dude! appreciate the comment - glad you liked the tune :) ✌️😊
What about just using guitar pedal for this ?
@@KosmoDeuz yea for sure. Guitar pedals work great for this also. I have a strymon deco that I do this with all the time :)
nice!
Cheers Bro! :) ✌️😊
Your old mixer very likely may have died just because it was old.
I meant my old mixer rather than the mixer was old. I only had it about 2 years
Alto is shit, I recommend Allen & Heath mixers they are great