FORD MODEL T 1926 VS. FORD MODEL A 1928 Comparison

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  • čas přidán 16. 01. 2022
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    Today, Tim talks to us about some of the features on both the 1926 Ford Model T & the 1928 Ford Model A.
    We would love to hear from you, please let us know, what car is your favorite.
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  • @dr.kennethj.sacchetti2765
    @dr.kennethj.sacchetti2765 Před 2 lety +19

    Nice comparison of the 2 Fords, Model T and Model A. Henry was reluctant to abandon production of the Model T. He believed thst it was the perfect utilitarian vehicle for the masses. Although the Model T brought the automobile to the average wage earner. The decade of the 1920s was the most prosperous/boom decade of the 20th century. The public was now ready for something special, something with flair. Edsel came up with a new design while Henry and wife Clara were on their peace keeping tour of Europe. Ford was losing sales to Chevrolet, by increasing percentage each year. When Henry returned home he took a sledgehammer to the hand built model Edsel and his team built. Clara finally gave Henry an ultimatum, remodel the T or she would leave him! She also sided with son, Edsel, in that Ford was losing sales by not keeping up with the times, and that he refused to listen to any of Edsel's ideas to improve the company. Henry relented, shutting down production of the T in May 1927. The Model A debuted amongst millions of dollars of advertising nationwide in newspapers, magazines, and on the radio for many weeks, in December 1927 at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in NYC. Thousands lined up to see the new car. Police had to be called to keep rhe crowds orderly. The 177 CID, 20 HP, 4 cylinder Model T engine was upgraded to a 201 CID, 40 HP, 4 cylinder Model A engine. A 3 speed sliding gear manual transmission, used on competitive cars for up to 20 years earlier, replace the archaic 2 speed planetary transmission. The Model A was lower and more streamlined than the Model T. Four wheel mechanical drum brakes on the A replaced the driveshaft brake on the T. Many other upgrades and improvement too numerous to mention here were evident. It was a completely new car from bumper to bumper. It was a huge success. Some people feel that we would be better off today if we were all driving Model A's. The car's MSRP in today's money would be about $11,000.00! That is certainly a bargain considering that the average cost of a new car is more than $25,000.00 today!

    • @COPPERSTATETREASURES
      @COPPERSTATETREASURES  Před 2 lety +2

      Love this!! Thanks for sharing!!

    • @daver.7135
      @daver.7135 Před rokem

      Clara's ultimatum may have played a role, but what finally got through Henry's thick autocratic skull was a drop from Nr. 1 in sales in 1924, to Nr. 2 in sales and red ink by 1926. Two Ford plants I visited, St. Paul MN and Norfolk VA, opened in 1926. They were closed less than a year after opening because Model T sales had dropped and the extra production capacity was not needed.

  • @BonnieKay13
    @BonnieKay13 Před 2 lety +15

    I've had both and still have my A. We took our '26 on a 2000 mile trip out west, had no trouble at all. The A is a much better overall car of course, a lot faster, better brakes, a lot of things better and handier, it was Edsel's answer to Chevy and it did. Many thousands of both T and A's around, which tells how good both were, far better than Chevy, made to last ... and they DID.

    • @COPPERSTATETREASURES
      @COPPERSTATETREASURES  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Warren, Thanks for stopping by. We greatly appreciate the informative comment. I am thinking about taking the 28 out to Texas from Arizona. Its nice to hear your A had no trouble. The Model A in this video, was originally from Canada & then lived a good part of its life in Las Vegas. Thanks again & Have a great day!

  • @colvinator1611
    @colvinator1611 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Much appreciated video. 2 great examples of American automobile history. Thanks a lot, very interesting close up tour !
    Colin UK 🇬🇧

  • @arthurfricchione8119
    @arthurfricchione8119 Před rokem +3

    Great comparison video between the model T and the model A. Thank you for sharing. 👍

  • @kentlarsen5834
    @kentlarsen5834 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I like the way you did the video, very simple and an easy explanation for us novices. You treated them like they were your babies with tender care. Thanks.

  • @JNTravels
    @JNTravels Před 2 lety +7

    What beautiful cars🐸

  • @Shadow0fd3ath24
    @Shadow0fd3ath24 Před 9 měsíci +1

    the difference from the 25 Model T to the 32 model 18 v8 is INSANE....In 1927 Ford had the cheaply made Model T with basic straight beam frame, wooden wheels, no shocks/barely any bushings, simple pressed steel frame, and 2 speed planetary gearbox with straight cut gears and cheap cork brake that slowed the spinning trans, crazy foot and hand pedals to control its 4 cyl engine, which has a gravity feed tank with no fuel pump, no waterpump, simple trembler coils, no oil pump, and only making 20hp
    ......But, by 1934 they had a 85hp v8 with self adjusting distributor, modern clutch inside of a synchronized 3 speed synchro sliding gear trans, bushing filled and much improved boxed frame with 5 crossmembers with shocks and modern wheels/ tires and better leaf springs, individual drum brakes on each wheel, big stainless grille, modern headlights and brake lights, fuel pump, dual water pumps, high pressure oil pump, PCV system, much nicer interior, better doors and much better sealed body made of 20 ton stamped steel instead of just wood covered in thin pressed steel, and tons of chrome...and a much nicer electrical and carburetor system that was miles more advanced along with the new windshield wiper...all for only $130(32%) more

  • @benjaminhawthorne1969
    @benjaminhawthorne1969 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Very informative. Thank you! 😉
    I had always been foggy on the difference between a Ford Model "A" & "T." I assumed, because of "alphabetical order" that the "A" came first and was more "raw," while the "T" came 2nd, so was more "refined." Clearly this is NOT the case!

  • @erikbrooks7712
    @erikbrooks7712 Před 2 lety +4

    Roofing tar My Dad said lots of folks used that on the tops to stop leaks rather than replace all the wood and fabric like some body restoring it would do today.

  • @saebyeokseong2585
    @saebyeokseong2585 Před 2 lety +5

    Like 👍 👌 💛
    Friend! Thank you for sharing this wonderful video. How wonderful. I enjoyed it. Always be healthy and happy.^^♡♡♡

  • @BlondeJedi
    @BlondeJedi Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you for the thorough detailed comparison. My first car was a 31 Sport Coupe. My uncle owned a 22 T Touring along with many other antique cars. His 26 was a Dodge coupe. We were in a rain storm one time and my little brother tirelessly manually operated the wiper. He never complained. His oldest car was an 03 Buick two-seater open top fully restored. What a gem. My dream car is a 31 Fordor sedan.

  • @JoJoStrums
    @JoJoStrums Před 2 lety +2

    Great info!! Very fun video!!👏👍 Can't wait to see the rebuild! Keep up the good work!

  • @larryclark9380
    @larryclark9380 Před 2 lety +2

    T & A. Both are nice!
    Very detailed description of each vehicle. Thanks.

  • @clevewallace4026
    @clevewallace4026 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for sharing. Well done. 👍

  • @doorguru168888
    @doorguru168888 Před rokem +2

    I really dig your comparison videos. Thanks again!

  • @georgemoser8245
    @georgemoser8245 Před 2 lety +5

    Thanks for making this video

  • @sandykirk1503
    @sandykirk1503 Před 2 lety +5

    I love these videos of course I like cars the wire wheels and then on the a you have white walls awesome

  • @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525
    @CAROLDDISCOVER-FINDER2525 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I find it interesting but I know it's true. But what I find interesting is that you said you grew up driving model tees. Well the last car was made 95 years ago so you've aged really well 🤣🤣.
    So being more serious thank you it is a very good comparison video I have to go back and check out the other one you mentioned

  • @papasmurfron7339
    @papasmurfron7339 Před 2 lety +6

    Hi Lisa, Jason...... Tim Great video!
    Thanks for keeping history alive!
    The younger generation needs to see the way is was! and how we have progressed over time!
    ⏳⌛🕰⏰⌚📲
    👍👍👍

  • @willozcreations.9064
    @willozcreations.9064 Před 2 lety +2

    Wow awesome comparison you did a pretty good job on it. Thanks for sharing

  • @jeepcj3b436
    @jeepcj3b436 Před 2 lety +3

    Another good comparison. Thank you.

  • @MrandMrsLeighs
    @MrandMrsLeighs Před 2 lety +2

    Wow! This is awesome. I can’t tell which one is my favorite. Both are super cool, I would definitely take both of them. I enjoyed your whole video explaining the comparisons between two.

  • @thethriftinglounge
    @thethriftinglounge Před 2 lety +3

    Love the comparison

  • @destinationdero
    @destinationdero Před 2 lety +2

    Love the history of these cars. So cool. Be well

  • @drakefallentine8351
    @drakefallentine8351 Před 2 lety +2

    I've often wondered why the Model T preceded the Model A. Thanks for all the close-up shots and commentary. Very enlightening and enjoyable. I've only admired these models from old Laurel and Hardy movies and The Untouchables TV Series. Your Model A is a real Gem.

    • @COPPERSTATETREASURES
      @COPPERSTATETREASURES  Před 2 lety +2

      Hello Drake, thank you so much for the very kind Comment. This Model A we just picked up recently. It is a beautiful car. It originated in Canada & spent most of its life in Las Vegas. I have to say we love the old Laurel Hardy movies & the Untouchables. Have a wonderful day!

    • @BlondeJedi
      @BlondeJedi Před 2 lety +2

      In the beginning....Henry created the A. On the next go-rounds it was B thru T then back to A much to Henry's shagrin. He strongly felt that his Universal T was all mankind ever needed. His son finally convinced him it was time to modernize to keep up with competition.

  • @jeffs7139
    @jeffs7139 Před 2 lety +6

    Great video showing the differences!
    I have a '27 t roadster and a "30 a town sedan and like you stated, I'd prefer driving the t over the a as well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, experience and enthusiasm!

  • @DumPhuc
    @DumPhuc Před 2 lety +5

    This is awesome!..i dug a 1924 model T out of the ground a couple yrs ago and found a 1917 in the woods and dragged it home as well. Also found the remains of 3 model A's,which I also dug out..i prefer the model t for it's ground clearance and durability. The model A needed twice the amount of parts and was much heavier,also more prone to seize up from sitting. I found wire wheels and hubs for the T but the bearings for the hubs were missing and it seems the rear drums must be different as well. I'm still learning about these things as I normally buy 50s and 60s cars

    • @CopperstateBassets
      @CopperstateBassets Před 2 lety +3

      I agree with you. Everytime I go from driving the A to the T I just love the feel of the T. The model T literally molds itself to fit the shape of the ground you are driving on. It warps and bends its frame to match the ground. Ive never felt another vehical do what it does. Other vehicals like the A with a more ridged frame try to let the wheels make up for variances in the surface you are traveling on.

    • @BlondeJedi
      @BlondeJedi Před 2 lety

      How is it you dug them out? Are you an excavater? Why were they buried? Given back to nature like trash?

    • @DumPhuc
      @DumPhuc Před 2 lety

      @@BlondeJedi no I'm a museum advisor/car restorer. There's more supply than demand for old cars around here. I heard a rumour from several people that a guy buried his model T back in the late 1920s because he couldn't get the price he wanted for it,decided to teach the world a lesson I guess😂..so I borrowed a friends metal detector and checked out the most likely spot on the property based on the what I saw there..sure enough I got a strong signal so we started digging with shovels and flashlights well into the evening..it was about 4 ft down and we used my willys jeep to yank it out. A few months later we discovered whst used to be a wrecking yard,b4 ww2,that has since become a forest..got permission from the land owner to extract what we could..i think we got the remains of about a dozen cars from there,all late 20s-early 30s stuff of various makes. It's not uncommon to find model t's buried here..last year they were repairing an overpass on the highway and found a model T buried and a friend of mine also found a model TT truck underground in a hillside not far from where I found ours..he posted a couple vids as well on utube..search for Joseph Johnston if you want to see his,he has found several around here as well

    • @DumPhuc
      @DumPhuc Před 2 lety

      @@CopperstateBassets indeed,I've noticed the model A had a very rigid frame,not uncommon for them to snap from stress(like my employer😂)..what amazed me was seeing the model T being used offroad,going places and doing things I'd think twice about with my army jeep..there some time period footage of model T offroading on utube,check it out if you haven't already,it's quite impressive!

  • @TRIEDANDTESTEDPUNJABI
    @TRIEDANDTESTEDPUNJABI Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great video 🎉❤❤

  • @TheBandit7613
    @TheBandit7613 Před rokem +2

    I'd be concerned about driving it with no air cleaner. In the last hundred years we learned what dirt can do to an engine.

  • @don66hotrod94
    @don66hotrod94 Před 2 lety +2

    Our local Ford/Fordson tractor dealer quit Ford in 1926 and went to Hudson/Essex supposedly because the Model T was so outdated. They had started selling Ford in 1911 and sold a whole bunch of T's. They ended up with Dodge in 1932 up until 1998.

    • @COPPERSTATETREASURES
      @COPPERSTATETREASURES  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Don.. Thank you for watching! Love all the history in the comments. Thanks for your contribution.

    • @SpockvsMcCoy
      @SpockvsMcCoy Před 2 lety

      The average size of a franchise new car dealer was much smaller then than now. Some dealerships had a showroom that could only fit one new car.

  • @SpockvsMcCoy
    @SpockvsMcCoy Před 2 lety +3

    Significant changes in the 1926 Model T compared to earlier models...including availability of a handful of colors instead of Japan Black. Despite the updates, sales of the 1926 Model T decreased to about 1.5 million due to the public's perception of an outdated design...so old Henry was finally persuaded to end production in May 1927. The 1927 Model T is much rarer than earlier model years with only about 400,000 units. Sales averaged about 2 million per year in 1923, 1924, and 1925. Ford also had no national advertising campaign from about the WWI years until 1923...but it was the most popular automobile. In 1924 a national marketing campaign resumed with heavy emphasis on marketing specifically to women. In particular, the much more expensive closed body Model Ts were marketed to women with their weather protection, demountable rims, and self starter.

    • @CopperstateBassets
      @CopperstateBassets Před 2 lety +2

      Good info. I may do a comparison between the 1926 and my 1924 T to show some of the upgrades Ford did to dress up the car

    • @SpockvsMcCoy
      @SpockvsMcCoy Před 2 lety +1

      @@CopperstateBassets Which body style is the 1924?

    • @CopperstateBassets
      @CopperstateBassets Před 2 lety +2

      @@SpockvsMcCoy its a touring. That's why Ive hesitated to do a side by side comparison with a Tudor sedan

    • @SpockvsMcCoy
      @SpockvsMcCoy Před 2 lety +1

      @@CopperstateBassets The touring was very popular when new so many survive. The brass era and early coupes are few and far in between.

    • @COPPERSTATETREASURES
      @COPPERSTATETREASURES  Před 2 lety

      Thank you 🙏 Tim

  • @ModelTTime
    @ModelTTime Před 2 lety +3

    I have a 27 coupe. It's fun to drive but 28 to 30 mph is its sweet spot. Modern traffic will run over me at that speed. So, I cruise the backroads. Nice comparison between the T and A.

    • @COPPERSTATETREASURES
      @COPPERSTATETREASURES  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Dave.. we have the same issue.. we try to stay off main roads.. have a wonderful day.

    • @SpockvsMcCoy
      @SpockvsMcCoy Před 2 lety +1

      The 1927 Model T is much rarer than earlier years.

  • @TheNDTShow
    @TheNDTShow Před 2 lety +2

    Nice comparisons vs here of the models

  • @skipstalforce
    @skipstalforce Před rokem +1

    I love these camparison vids! LOved the 28 chevy vs 28 ford! Do more!!!!! You're so right about driving the T, small simple and light, easy to handle, Ford really knew what he was doing when he built a simple tough car. I admire his vision that he could sell that model for as long as he did. Not picken but you should really oil the leaf springs on the T.

  • @jamesbeasley7242
    @jamesbeasley7242 Před 11 měsíci

    what the diffents between modle
    et and 21928 roaster

  • @COPPERSTATETREASURES
    @COPPERSTATETREASURES  Před 2 lety +1

    Hi Friends! We found a 1915 Overland at Barrett-Jackson, 106 years old. Tim gives a great review of the car. If you would like to view the video, you can check it out here: czcams.com/video/xBj0rh-CAhg/video.html Have a Great Day!

  • @fredhubler4128
    @fredhubler4128 Před 2 lety +3

    Nice video. We have a '26 T Runabout and a '29 A Tudor. Both fun and rewarding to drive. I agree that the T is simpler and more intuitive to drive once you're acclimated to it. By comparison, however, the A is a hotrod with twice the power!

    • @CopperstateBassets
      @CopperstateBassets Před 2 lety +1

      I agree. When Input a new distributor in the 1928 it did feelnlike a hot rod compared to the T

    • @fredhubler4128
      @fredhubler4128 Před 2 lety +1

      @@CopperstateBassets We installed an FS Ignition Zipper (with Pertronix Ignitor) and it has been quite reliable.

    • @CopperstateBassets
      @CopperstateBassets Před 2 lety +2

      @@fredhubler4128 I will have to look that up. Ive been working on and driving model Ts for 30 plus years. The model A is this new mordern marvel of a car Im just learning about!

    • @WitchKing-Of-Angmar
      @WitchKing-Of-Angmar Před 2 lety +1

      @@CopperstateBassets why, not a DeSoto, or Nash, Marmon or Oakland. Those vehicles were modern marvels, people just don't realize because they only think two vehicles existed in the 1920's.

  • @larsfredriksson2218
    @larsfredriksson2218 Před 2 lety +1

    The erly explorers i Egypt hade model T for desert exploring. It whod be intresting to have a revu of ther upgrads.

  • @georgvonsauer2618
    @georgvonsauer2618 Před rokem +1

    Owned both the T and the A...The A first, the Ts later..The Ts were and are an inferior car and sit in a museum...the only reason I kept them? I thought that they they were cool...My father always berated them in his stories of his childhood and how he would drive the family T to the outskirts of town and parked it, as he was embarrassed to be seen driving one...The first T that I remember was in the mid 50's...possibly a 15 touring...love at first sight...I do not think that I have even 50 miles on both of them...a major disappointment!

  • @user-pd6ec5yh4j
    @user-pd6ec5yh4j Před 2 měsíci +1

    Is that an original water pump? Most A's have a packing pump. What is the deal there?

  • @PM-ez5tu
    @PM-ez5tu Před 2 lety +1

    1928 Model A 👍

  • @garycamara9955
    @garycamara9955 Před měsícem +1

    The model A is more like driving a contemporary car, the model T is different.

  • @paulnicholson1906
    @paulnicholson1906 Před 2 lety +1

    Very interesting video. I have a 23 T touring car and would like an A as well but I don’t have room for it. I have a 58 VW maybe I should sell that and get an A? I’m not very good at selling anything though 🙃 Anyway I like the comparison, very nice.

    • @COPPERSTATETREASURES
      @COPPERSTATETREASURES  Před 2 lety

      Hi Paul.. Very cool on the 23 T.. I would love to have a 58 VW. Had the opportunity in the 70's to grab one for $600.00, just didn't have the cash flow at that time. The Model A is a great car too. I think you would enjoy it. Took some getting use to on the driving, just because I was used to driving the T's for so may years. Thanks for watching! Appreciate you stopping by!

  • @WitchKing-Of-Angmar
    @WitchKing-Of-Angmar Před 2 lety +3

    In the 1950's I used to drive a 1906 Oldsmobile every Saturday. Worked a hell of a lot better than this vehicle, then again, I say they are working pretty well considering being over 90 years old.

    • @COPPERSTATETREASURES
      @COPPERSTATETREASURES  Před 2 lety +2

      That’s amazing.. would love to get a hold of one. Thanks for watching & have a wonderful day!

    • @SpockvsMcCoy
      @SpockvsMcCoy Před 2 lety

      Oldsmobile Model L, 2 cylinder or Model B, 2-Seater?

    • @WitchKing-Of-Angmar
      @WitchKing-Of-Angmar Před 2 lety +1

      @@SpockvsMcCoy yes the Model L, although keep in mind it was a 1906 Sedanette.

    • @SpockvsMcCoy
      @SpockvsMcCoy Před 2 lety

      @@WitchKing-Of-Angmar Were replacement parts available?

    • @WitchKing-Of-Angmar
      @WitchKing-Of-Angmar Před 2 lety +1

      @@SpockvsMcCoy never damaged until a roll over accident down a hill were it miraculously! only lost a front head lamp and fender bent in a little. Hammered it back out, observed the tires (1920 replacement Firestones) gathered the head lamp, and by the time I got back home...my father never noticed what had happened. Replacement parts were available, But I think all I lost was a chain belt in 1960 and it wasn't exactly an Oldsmobile made chain belt, however I had seen shops with replacement parts for Nashes, Oldsmobiles, Wintons, Toldedos, and Ford's (Model N, Model A 1903). My grandfather bought it in 1905 for $1,230. He recalled many automobiles on the road then, just not so common in cities such as Manhattan unless it was on Billionaires row void of any Horse traffic.

  • @scottbatey3130
    @scottbatey3130 Před 2 lety

    Did I miss you showing the A Interior?

  • @TommyboyGTP
    @TommyboyGTP Před 2 lety +2

    Weren't earlier T's gas tanks under the seat?

    • @COPPERSTATETREASURES
      @COPPERSTATETREASURES  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, they were. We have a video up of a 1921 Ford & that one has it under the seat. Thanks for stopping by

  • @coreyellisart6877
    @coreyellisart6877 Před 2 lety +2

    What part of Arizona are you in

  • @Maplecook
    @Maplecook Před 2 lety +3

    As an old-car lover (Okay, not THIS old, typically, but still...) I approve! =)

  • @brucewayne9300
    @brucewayne9300 Před rokem +1

    yes one question how the hell does the water circulate in the t model without a pump you left me hangin

    • @COPPERSTATETREASURES
      @COPPERSTATETREASURES  Před rokem

      Hi Bruce, Thermosyphon. The coolant in the engine head heats up and rises to the top of the radiator. It starts to cool and is pushed by hotter water coming up from the engine head. As the water is pushed downward through the radiator it continues to be cooled by air being pushed pr pulled through the fins of the radiator. This works best when the water reaches close to boiling at the top of the engine. Water pumps tend to cause model T engines to overheat because the water is pushed to fast by the pump to actually cool down unless it is restricted by a thermostat to slow it down.

    • @brucewayne9300
      @brucewayne9300 Před rokem

      @@COPPERSTATETREASURES thank you sir. Makes perfect sense.

  • @joeg3741
    @joeg3741 Před 2 lety +2

    Why is the newer model designated as A? Were they named in reverse alphabet order??? Why? What about models B--S and models U- Z???
    Anyone know the answer?

    • @COPPERSTATETREASURES
      @COPPERSTATETREASURES  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Joe that is a great question. From what I have read, it appears there were letters (cars) made that never were sold to public. I believe the first 19 in the alphabet. Not sure the reasoning on the order of the letters though. Does anyone know?

  • @billkarmetsky4003
    @billkarmetsky4003 Před rokem +1

    What totally dangerous, noisy tin cans. Bring back horses and grand pasturelands and little children to play with them.